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pokejungle
November 1st, 2006, 03:54 AM
Seriously, I have to question what exactly is wrong with the human race after watching a video on Youtube. Shockingly raw proof that homophobia hurts (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7idzpCb6io) people.

If you don't or can't watch the video, it's basically a Youtube user posting an extremely video of her experience today. She is doing a project to give Build-A-Bears to Ronald McDonald houses to be distributed to terminally ill children there. She made over 40 to deliver. So while she's half way through unpacking them, a female worker at the Ronald McDonald house says she's uncomfortable working with her because she is a lesbian and tells her to put the bears back and leave. Another employee said she'd make sure the unpacked bears got delivered to children, but really did nothing to stand up for her.

How sick is this? The woman was making bears for terminally ill children and her gifts are unaccepted because of her sexual orientation? She did absolutely NOTHING that should've made the worker uncomfortable, but the mere thought was apparently enough. Seriously though, why does it matter?

If someone wants to put their time and heart into a project to spread love and joy to children who will die, they can only be straight?

This world, specifically the United States, has its morals completely mixed up. It's sick, baseline.

(Yeah, this thread discusses a sensitive topic, sexual orientation, but closing this thread does nothing to help a horrible problem.)

Drifblim
November 1st, 2006, 05:07 AM
You know why? Because the GOP wants the support of the religious right, which make up not much of the conservative population compared to general fiscal conservatives. And if it means propagating anti-gay sentiments, so be it.

Tight gits.

pokejungle
November 1st, 2006, 05:09 AM
I used to be GOP.

Then I finally woke up and realized that the GOP and Democrats are complete jokes of politicians.

When I get back to the US, I am starting my own political party.

Drifblim
November 1st, 2006, 05:14 AM
Some students are supposedly calling for partisan politics to end. Wonder how that'll go.

pokejungle
November 1st, 2006, 05:18 AM
That's not the answer either.

The way we view politics is not the way it has to be. In fact, we've got it all wrong. And because of my deep seated politicalness I want to change that. A lot.

Politicians of our country deserve to be teased as having the lowest and worst job. I'd like to change that though. Government isn't supposed to be something high and mighty, it's supposed to be an extension of the people.

And right now, it's not.

Loyal Arcanine
November 1st, 2006, 06:41 AM
What annoys me is how people get so overhyped upset about this while others are being discriminated on skin color, or are getting raped by 5 men at once, or are being sacrificed as child-soldiers, which is just as sick as this if not sicker. But all you hear is this kind of stuff.

pokejungle
November 1st, 2006, 06:49 AM
What disgust me is your obvious lack of knowledge of the topic of discrimination based on sexual orientation.

Racism has died down a TON. This has not. And raping is a totally different ball game.

Loyal Arcanine
November 1st, 2006, 07:50 AM
What disgust me is your obvious lack of knowledge of the topic of discrimination based on sexual orientation.

Racism has died down a TON. This has not. And raping is a totally different ball game.
Yeah well, just shut up okay? It's obvious that you're not the one being discriminated because of color, so shut up if you're not talking from experience.

You accuse me of a lack of knowledge, but you're just whining about one stupid example posted on YOUTUBE for god's sake. Go away.

*~Ashley~*
November 1st, 2006, 08:18 AM
Okay guys, please stop flaming/flame-baiting one another. Discrimination against anything can be a really touchy subject, so everyone needs to be careful not to hurt anyone else's feelings.

If you can't keep it clean, I'm going to have to close this and give out warnings. So just try to be careful and considerate of everyone else, alright?

Natsuki
November 1st, 2006, 01:51 PM
This sickens me. This absolutely sickens me. Just two days ago I was talking to my mom about this sort of thing. What on earth gives people the right to think they can do this to others? I was talking to my mom and questioning her about why society dislikes people who are gay and denies them the same rights and respect that everyone wants. I always wanted to know how someone can say they are Christian or Catholic or completely devoted to their faith when they go out and say that, "Being gay is wrong." Tell me EXACTLY where in the Bible it says that. Where is it written that it says God frowns upon gays? Did not God create every human being on this planet? Does not being Christian mean that you love all and respect all despite their differences to yourself?

A few months ago I was talking to my friend at school about this. She said, "Wow, that guy's outfit makes him look gay." I said, "What's wrong with that?" and she started telling me how being gay is wrong and immoral. When I asked her why it is "wrong,", she couldn't even back it up. Umm, please tell me how the heck this makes sense? We don't allow gays to get married in this country, yet a registered paedophile can get married, have kids and won't be sent to jail until he is CAUGHT sexually absuing his children. If that doesn't prove there is something wrong with our world, I don't know what does.

It just makes me so angry that people can be so hurtful and uncaring. It sickens me that parents are bringing up their children to believe that being gay is wrong and should be seen as a bad thing. That's like picking apart any small piece of a person and saying it's wrong. I have a skin disorder. Yes, I'm different from most other people, so should you all cast me into oblivion and tell me I'm undeserving and not fit to coexist with everyone else in this world? No one, and I mean no one has the right to decide what's normal or who can do what based on something as stupid as sexual preference.

My heart really goes out to that woman. She wanted to help sick, dying children and she was turned away. Only a heartless fool would do something so horrible as that. I'd like to take a big box of tomatoes and chuck them at all the homophobes out there. *hiss* <<

Well, I'm done for now. Long post, I know, but this is a topic I feel very strongly about. Though I'll never understand why society seems to think being gay is wrong, I can still throw things at the people who think that way. XD

~Kelsey

MegaDitto
November 1st, 2006, 02:40 PM
The T-Dome just popped up in my head after reading this.

It's just not right.

It's just not right!

She could sue I believe. In a way to get the woman fired.

pokejungle
November 2nd, 2006, 02:08 AM
Yeah, actually that could turn into a big lawsuit...or at least a huge media thing.

Anyways, I don't believe I was flaming in my other post. My reply was fairly civil.

So, yeah. I think even calling someone gay based on actions or appearance can get touchy, because we're just too stereotypical. Guys and girls should be able to behave how they want to (while not like...killing people) and not have people guessing their sexual orientation. Gay is the worst adjective ever.

Drifblim
November 2nd, 2006, 06:30 AM
Kelsey, the basis of this arguably goes back to the book of Exodus, where it was written that the tribe of Israel was to be governed so that no man could have sexual relations with another man, and women likewise with women. Isn't it amazing that the religious right will try to hold on to something set down for a tribe accustomed to the times of the ancient Egyptians and, for that matter, something that could have been simply misrecorded or misinterpreted by man over time? We're even getting verses and entire chapters added and filled in at this moment, so chances are that by the next millennium we'll probably have three or four more books added....

And may I add that this is all from the Old Testament, which, from my understanding, Jesus Christ fulfilled the prophecy of and categorically revised in his teachings?

pokejungle
November 2nd, 2006, 06:38 AM
Yeah, did he touch on homosexuality though? I'm not sure if he revised it.

Though, the misinterpretation thing could have a huge part in things.

Lucid
November 2nd, 2006, 10:09 AM
Yes, it does say in the bible that homosexuality is wrong, look it up when you try and argue, and this has nothing to do with skin color or rape:
Lev. 18:22 "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."

Lev. 20:13 "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them"

1 Cor. 6:9-10 "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."

Rom. 1:26-28 "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."

It does say in the bible that homosexuality is a sin. In fact, I got into a discussion with a gay/bi friend of mine a few months ago. Basically, he went back to church and then started feeling like his attraction to members of the same sex was a sin. Personally, I’m atheist.
The biblical teachings contradict and confuse me too much, you have some people who say that the same book that says it’s alright to sell your daughters into slavery and eat shrimp is a sin, also says that loving someone is a sin as well. I think that a lot of people see homosexuals--Gay men for instance are often portrayed in the media as flaming drag queens with crazed sexual appetite for pretty little straight guys, which kinda falls into adultery, but I’m ranting.
Yes, plenty of good Christians take the bible litiraly and somehow feel that being around a gay person will somehow lead them down the path of evil no-nos. Heck, that woman probably thought that by turning the other's gifts away, she was doing the right thing in God's eyes, a lot of other people who share the same veiws would have done the same thing. Most of them aren't bad people, they were just brought up to be afraid that if they don't do things, they'll burn in hell. Such fear based preachings that so many people follow is why I believe what I do.

Yes, more and more people are becoming tolerant as their children grow up seeing shows like Will & Grace, where being gay isn’t that big a deal. In some cases, I do believe that being gay is a chemical thing, chromosomes or what have you. So I refuse to believe that a god who ‘loves and created all of his children’, would forsaken them for being the way he made them. Some churches don’t take the bible so literally, they accept that times are changing and so are people’s views, but as long as there are religious that teach that homosexuality is an evil thing, there will forever be people who consider it as dirty and sinful…

Matt 5:29 "And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell. And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell."

… and that by accepting teddybears, sick kids will be damned.

As for the “gay” and “fag” as an insult thing, I doubt that will ever change in the next few years. There isn’t a 12 year old boy I don’t know who calls his friend one whenever he does something stupid. I’m not going to deny the fact that the later was created as a way to put someone down, but just like in the old days when gay meant ‘happy’, the meaning of the words have changed to a degree. It's a slang term, simple as that.
And so this ends my probably longest/most intelligent post at PC, ever... And half of it was quotes. ;)

parallelzero
November 2nd, 2006, 12:32 PM
Hmm, this isn't really a topic I'm the most knowledgable of. I hardly see it around here, if at all. Though I'm aware it takes place.

I personally don't agree with gay/lesbian/bi relationships. To me it seems immoral. However, I'm not going to go as far as be discriminatory about the whole issue, it is ones own choice to make. It just isn't right to hate or dislike someone because of what sex they are attracted to, nor is it okay to judge as such because a religious book says it's wrong. I have friends that are gay, lesbian, and bi.I dosn't follow any religion, nor do I ever intend to. Religion causes too much conflict in my opinion. Conflict that the world doesn't need. I'm not going to hate someone for such stupid reasons as those mentioned above.

Drifblim
November 2nd, 2006, 06:37 PM
Personally, I think the religious right are encouraging bullying others by calling them 'gay' — less people Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, or Oral Roberts have to help. XD

I mean, I'm not gay, but I did get jumped by boys trying to grind me. Each encounter lasted no more than a second, though, and I've forsworn dances.

pokejungle
November 2nd, 2006, 07:50 PM
Yeah. Bible does say homosexuality is wrong. But so is being a different religion and worshiping a different god.

It's not a reason to discriminate IMO. God did give us freewill in the end.

Ryoutarou
November 2nd, 2006, 08:59 PM
What happened to this lady was horrible, yeah the lady doesn't have to be okay with her being gay, but there was no need to tell her that when she was trying to deliver gifts to sick children. I do believe that being gay is immoral, I always will, but that doesn't give me or anyone else who believes the same a free pass to hurt others' feelings like this lady did.

I don't find any of the books in the bible to be contradictory of one another, but that all depends on what version you read. The King James version, while its use may be declining is still the most widely used version and is horridly outdated. The NIV version is much better in terms of accurate translations and what should and shouldn't be taken as literal.

I could probably go deeper into what I want to say, but these conversations never end well.

pokejungle
November 2nd, 2006, 09:04 PM
Sick children. Teddy Bears. Was it really that bad?

I know it's wrong and immoral, but the point of this thread is that it was wrong to reject teddy bears for dying kids because she was a lesbian. Personally, I don't like the stereotypical gay guy and wouldn't choose to hang out with someone who acted that way because it gets on my nerves. A lot. But otherwise I think sexual orientation doesn't need to be a point of contingency.

But yeah, I don't really support gay rights either because in the end I believe it's wrong. ...that said, I'm not sure how I can argue against it when I support non-discrimination.

It's a very confusing matter.

Lucid
November 2nd, 2006, 09:31 PM
I support gay rights... just not gay marriage, I don’t support any type of marriage in fact. But I don’t see why anyone would want to be married by the same laws that call them abominations, I guess just the whole affaire of the wedding, but still.
You can’t really compare racial discrimination agents sexuality based discrimination, because racial doesn’t go into people’s faith, but their upbringing and personal taste, while homophobia goes into all three, and faith based things are still taboo in some areas.
Yes, what the woman did was completely wrong, but what I’m saying is that she probably thought what she did was right. My boss at work is a Christian preacher, I asked him and he says that the bible is god’s word and should be taken literally, outdated or not, and I was raised catholic so I know that their believes are the same in that part (Catholicism is what I find contradictory and really despise).
What my point is, is that as long as religions continue to teach that loving a member of the same sex is a bad thing, people will treat it as such.

pokejungle
November 2nd, 2006, 09:34 PM
I can't say that I think highly of Catholicism either.

My grandma thinks that homosexuality is on par with all other sins, and I'd probably have to agree. I just discussed the topic with her for like half an hour on AIM.

Lucid
November 2nd, 2006, 09:36 PM
Yur granny has AIM... that's funny. XD

Well it's the generation too, my grandparents were raciest until they died or became senile, but the generation after them doesn't really care.

pokejungle
November 2nd, 2006, 09:39 PM
I think my grandparents tend to be a little bit racist, otherwise they're pretty liberal. So not really typical for their generation.

Shaydeh
November 3rd, 2006, 05:08 AM
Quite a few people here have said being gay is wrong and immoral and I’m a little curious as to how they decided that. Let us not dismiss the possibility of being born gay. And should we cast our eyes down on them for being ‘victims’ of such birth, wouldn’t we be in fact deeming their very existence wrong? And further more, would it be fair to punish or look down on someone for something they have no control over?

pokejungle
November 3rd, 2006, 05:35 AM
Everyone's born with temptations to do immoral things. It's called self-control really. Acting on impulses is what gets you in trouble.

Ryoutarou
November 3rd, 2006, 07:22 AM
Quite a few people here have said being gay is wrong and immoral and I’m a little curious as to how they decided that. Let us not dismiss the possibility of being born gay. And should we cast our eyes down on them for being ‘victims’ of such birth, wouldn’t we be in fact deeming their very existence wrong? And further more, would it be fair to punish or look down on someone for something they have no control over? We're taught not to look down upon others, no matter what they do. Judgment isn't for us to pass, because as humans, we're all very much fallible, so we're in no position to judge.

I don't believe that a person can be born gay. Dean Hammer, in case no one remembers him, is basically the one that got the "gay gene" huge publicity with his tests in the early 90's. He said he proved that there is in fact a gay gene with the "twin tests", there were a few major flaws with this. He did these tests without checking other pairs of twins within the same families. It was said that he basically did those tests without control groups because of this. The test have been done again by other doctors with and without control groups and not one of them has been able to replicate similar results that definitively proved there is a gay gene. One of the people doing these new tests was quoted as saying something along the lines of "no evidence, not even a trend that could support the idea of a gay gene was found in our results when done in similar fashion to Dr. Hammer's test". Anne Sterling has also been noted as saying one of the bigger, if not the biggest flaws with these twin tests is that they were all done on twins raised in the same household, that went to the same school and generally had the same social group and upbringing. She cites this as reason to claim that one cannot be born gay, but that lifestyle is instilled in them due to their surroundings.

So all that coupled with the fact that I don't believe God would allow anyone to be born gay is why I think it's a choice. This is a choice that hurts the individual though, it's their life and what they do is up to them. If gay person tries to help sick children, rejecting them based on the fact that they're gay is just as wrong as the gay person being gay in the first place.

Auron
November 3rd, 2006, 07:38 AM
When I saw the title of the Thread, I knew that this is about homophobia.

There is nothing bad in beign gay/lesbian, if you are happy loving someone of your same sex...Be happy with him/her !! There's nothing wrong !!

I'm not an homophobe, I respect other people's sexual condition. Of course, they have to respect mine. I mean, "If I like girls, I like girls, and please don't push me to be gay because I'm not."

Shaydeh
November 3rd, 2006, 02:03 PM
Well, being the rabbit that lived the in hole for far too long, I'm not even going to pretend that I'm informed on the concept of the 'twin tests' or 'gay gene'. My flawed logic was that if it's possible for say, a male being to be born with an abnormal amount of female hormones, or possible for a baby to be born with both male and female parts, then likely it would be possible for a male to be born with the engine of a female's sexual orientation. But since that is not the case you say, I rest me case, myesh?

Indeed.

Natsuki
November 3rd, 2006, 02:35 PM
Kelsey, the basis of this arguably goes back to the book of Exodus, where it was written that the tribe of Israel was to be governed so that no man could have sexual relations with another man, and women likewise with women. Isn't it amazing that the religious right will try to hold on to something set down for a tribe accustomed to the times of the ancient Egyptians and, for that matter, something that could have been simply misrecorded or misinterpreted by man over time? We're even getting verses and entire chapters added and filled in at this moment, so chances are that by the next millennium we'll probably have three or four more books added....

And may I add that this is all from the Old Testament, which, from my understanding, Jesus Christ fulfilled the prophecy of and categorically revised in his teachings?

Yet in times as early as Ancient Greece, men could have sexual relations with other men and no one looked down upon this. In the case of the Spartans, so long as a man could fight and provide for the city-state, no one could have cared less if he slept with another man. The same ideas applied to the women. While the men went off to war, the women stayed home and were allowed to visit with the other women of the neighborhood or whatever you want to call it. In some cases women may have "fallen in love" with another woman because of this isolation to men. And really, "love" is something mankind invented and was not fully expressed until the 16-1800's or something (I forgot the actual years, grr).

I don't know when it was that people decided falling in love with someone of thesame sex was some horrible and misguided thing, but it makes absolutely no sense. When people decided they had some almighty authority over other people's lives is beyond me as well.

~Kelsey

Drifblim
November 3rd, 2006, 04:27 PM
Yet in times as early as Ancient Greece, men could have sexual relations with other men and no one looked down upon this. In the case of the Spartans, so long as a man could fight and provide for the city-state, no one could have cared less if he slept with another man. The same ideas applied to the women. While the men went off to war, the women stayed home and were allowed to visit with the other women of the neighborhood or whatever you want to call it. In some cases women may have "fallen in love" with another woman because of this isolation to men. And really, "love" is something mankind invented and was not fully expressed until the 16-1800's or something (I forgot the actual years, grr).That's true, but they supposedly never accepted Christianity until after Paul swung 'round and was killed in Rome. The book of Acts (and the letters he worte following) has a lot on Paul's condemnation of any practice allowed by polytheism in that era.

pokejungle
November 3rd, 2006, 04:43 PM
That's true, but they supposedly never accepted Christianity until after Paul swung 'round and was killed in Rome. The book of Acts (and the letters he worte following) has a lot on Paul's condemnation of any practice allowed by polytheism in that era.
I was named after Paul in the Bible. </needless Paul trivia>

Anyways, I think it's kind of weird how that changed so radically. If you've watched the movie Alexander, there's a whole second love story between Alexander and his best friend. And you see them get in bed together, but then the camera comes to the next day.

If you look at the Romans though, they were a pretty good example of immorality.

LelandLancaster
November 4th, 2006, 03:03 PM
I find it hard to blame the woman for being uncomfortable around a lesbian. You can't really tell people "it's wrong to feel grossed out about this or that, so don't be". It's her choice and whatever she did was her decision.

Blastoise
November 4th, 2006, 03:16 PM
Regardless of whether a person is "born" gay, or being gay is simply a choice, it is by no means a wrong thing. It's not a lifestyle that I agree with or that I would want as my own, but I refuse to shun people for this choice. In fact, one of my best friends is bisexual, and I can get along fine with people who are gay or lesbian. However, it cannot be denied that, as flawed human beings, we will always have a small amount of prejudice towards those who are different than ourselves, even if we don't hate them, or don't openly show it.

However, this sort of thing does need to stop; but it will take just as long to rub this form of discrimination out of the world population's behavior as it did to rub out discriminatory action towards blacks/hispanics/etc. out, and such a drastic transformation may never fully occur.

Lord Mike
November 4th, 2006, 03:52 PM
Well said Blastoise; very well said. I have the similar view to yours, and we do need to respect peoples' decisions, even if we're not supportive of them.

Discrimination needs to stop or else the world will...well...you know what I mean

~LM~

pokejungle
November 6th, 2006, 02:33 AM
By the way, to clarify, discrimination needs to stop in these sorts of situations. Where homosexuals aren't flaunting that they're different.

Personally, I can't stand flamboyant gay guys. Seriously, I can't even watch anything on TV with them, it just pisses me off.

Choice is one thing, but simply being different to be different is not cool. Respect those around you if you want respect back.

xcutedivisionx
November 24th, 2006, 11:17 AM
That is NOT right. She is a human being just like any other person. And no-one should care what her orientation is. That is her personal life that she chose for herself. It sickens me when people discriminate. It doesn't matter what race you are, what orientation you are, obese people, disable people (mentally & physically). PEOPLE ARE PEOPLE REGARDLESS OF WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE ON THE OUTSIDE!! THEY SHARE THE SAME FEELINGS AS YOU, THE SAME ORGANS, AND THE SAME BRAIN! SO TREAT THEM AS A REGULAR HUMAN JUST AS THE WAY PEOPLE TREAT YOU!!! PEOPLE WHO ARE DIFFERENT DON'T WANNA BE TREATED LIKE THAT, YES THEY KNOW THEY ARE DIFFERENT, BUT TREATING THEM DIFFERENTLY ISN'T GOING TO HELP THEM. MAKE THE CHANGE NOW AND TREAT ALL PEOPLE THE SAME.

Lord Mike
November 24th, 2006, 11:28 AM
Well said to be honest. Where have you been besides PokeCommuity all these years?

xcutedivisionx
November 24th, 2006, 11:31 AM
Well said to be honest. Where have you been besides PokeCommuity all these years?

Who me?? And if that is me, I'm confused on what the question is asking...

Lord Mike
November 24th, 2006, 01:41 PM
Yeah, you pretty much answered the whole thread. Again, well said post.

Dawson
November 30th, 2006, 03:02 PM
We're taught not to look down upon others, no matter what they do. Judgment isn't for us to pass, because as humans, we're all very much fallible, so we're in no position to judge.

I don't believe that a person can be born gay. Dean Hammer, in case no one remembers him, is basically the one that got the "gay gene" huge publicity with his tests in the early 90's. He said he proved that there is in fact a gay gene with the "twin tests", there were a few major flaws with this. He did these tests without checking other pairs of twins within the same families. It was said that he basically did those tests without control groups because of this. The test have been done again by other doctors with and without control groups and not one of them has been able to replicate similar results that definitively proved there is a gay gene. One of the people doing these new tests was quoted as saying something along the lines of "no evidence, not even a trend that could support the idea of a gay gene was found in our results when done in similar fashion to Dr. Hammer's test". Anne Sterling has also been noted as saying one of the bigger, if not the biggest flaws with these twin tests is that they were all done on twins raised in the same household, that went to the same school and generally had the same social group and upbringing. She cites this as reason to claim that one cannot be born gay, but that lifestyle is instilled in them due to their surroundings.

So all that coupled with the fact that I don't believe God would allow anyone to be born gay is why I think it's a choice. This is a choice that hurts the individual though, it's their life and what they do is up to them. If gay person tries to help sick children, rejecting them based on the fact that they're gay is just as wrong as the gay person being gay in the first place.

I disagree with both sides of this argument. I don't believe that people can just be born gay. Likewise, I don't believe that being gay is a choice, I can't see an argument for that. Can you really imagine some guy one day waking up and saying to himself "I'm bored of women, I'm gonna be gay from now on."?

Sexuality, in my opinion, is largely determined in our youths, mainly the experiences of the first few years of our lives. And those experiences, though probably minor and couldn't be prevented or altered by our parents, start to mould us into the type of person we grow up to be, included which way we swing.

In not big on watching two men going at it and I never will be, even watching two guys tongue wrestling makes me feel ill, but I don't believe religious folks have a right to call it a sin. I've never read the bible and I only know what I've learned from school so that's my only knowledge of that, but I'm just gonna use my insanely high knowledge of sex as my argument against homosexuality being a sin.

WARNING: The following may not be unsuitable for all.

The more mature among us will all have heard of the 'G Spot'. It's basically a small patch of skin inside a woman's vagina that provides her a large amount of pleasure when rubbed. Obviously, the natural tool for hitting that spot is a penis, hence sex being so pleasurable for women. Fair enough, right? Those of us you believe that God created everybody and everything will think that makes sense, right? Because it does. But how many people knew that men also have a similar version of the 'G Spot'? And where is the 'G Spot' on a man? It's on the prostate, deep in the anus. And what is the natural tool for hitting that spot and providing that man with pleasure? That's right, a penis. If God didn't want man-on-man love in the world, why did he give men a pleasure spot that only other men could naturally reach? Where's the sense in that? There isn't, that's why it is completely foolish to claim that 'God' thinks homosexuality is a sin, he gave men the tools needed to provide each other with pleasure.

I'm not happy watching men doing it, but I should never really be in a position where I'd have to, but I can accept that if they wanna do it then they can. Tolerance and acceptance is the only way we can all survive in this world.

bna_li
December 1st, 2006, 11:00 PM
You used 2 "buts" in a sentence...

Year or two ago I would have been the person doing the discriminating, but things have changed. People can do whatever the heck they want. It's not any of my business. I can't believe this kind of thing is still going on in your country.

Dark Magician
December 2nd, 2006, 01:46 PM
Oh c'mon dude, that decision was way out of place!!! Whats wrong with people these days??

Morpherex
December 2nd, 2006, 10:33 PM
If you're sick of the government I highly suggest you guys to tune into Free Talk Live.

And Dawson, the reason males have a G-Spot aswell is because of this. Early in development EVERYBODY is the same gender.