Johto in the Trainer Memo

[Crystal ALpha-Star+]

Coronis has brought an interesting piece of information to my attention.

The Japanese web sites, which unlike their English counterparts have not ceased research on Diamond and Pearl, have developed a program called Pokémon Maker. Although its functions are limited to certain third-party accessories, the program sheds an interesting light on the Trainer's Memo list of names. Other than the game locations, there are the two Pal Park descriptions, namely "Transferred from Hoenn" or "Transferred from Kanto," and a chunk of yet-unused names.

If to get to the point, there is a description which reads "From Johto." Notice that the transfer terminology is absent. Another description says the same for Shin'ou itself.

What could this mean? Ruby and Sapphire's Trainer's Memo does not acknowledge FireRed and LeafGreen, nor vice-versa. Emerald, however, does include the list of FireRed and LeafGreen locations. This time, Game Freak might have decided to be more thorough, or rather less secretive. Should there be Gold and Silver remakes in Generation IV's future, Diamond and Pearl will regard Pokémon obtained in those games as being from Johto, while the remakes will regard Pokémon obtained in Diamond and Pearl as being from Shin'ou.

There seem to be many other Trainer's Memo descriptions for events, among which are those for Pokémon Movies 6-16. This does not really bode well for the feasibility of the above, seeing as movie Jirachi, Deoxys and Mew are described as transferred from Hoenn or Kanto, and even Manaphy occupies the game location at which it happens to hatch. Besides, the idea of movie 16 being relevant to Diamond and Pearl is quite ridiculous.

[Typhoon XV]

So what does this mean exacly?

[Crystal ALpha-Star+]

So what does this mean exacly?


it means there might be a Johto remake.

[Luиαrglοω]

it means there might be a Johto remake.

That would be awwweeesome. IMO G/S/C were the best games!

[Mudkipblader]

That would be cool. I can already imagine Johto in Advance - DS graphics.
And what F.L.Y. said, makes sence. I still think Crystal is one of the best games ever.

[GymLeaderLance99]

You know, come to think of it, my friend mentioned one might be able to travel to Johto in D/P. I'm not exactly sure if it's confirmed yet, though...

Still, I'm likin' the idea of a G/S/C remake, especially Crystal, since it was my favorite. lol ^_^ Thanks for bringing this up, sena. :)

[Samson]

they'll have to make a remake... imagine the wait until the third game of the D/P series...

[Crystal ALpha-Star+]

You know, come to think of it, my friend mentioned one might be able to travel to Johto in D/P. I'm not exactly sure if it's confirmed yet, though...

Still, I'm likin' the idea of a G/S/C remake, especially Crystal, since it was my favorite. lol ^_^ Thanks for bringing this up, sena. :)

Its confirmed that you cant go to Johto

[Luиαrglοω]

Its confirmed that you cant go to Johto

Well, we can still hope there'll be a remake! x3 *crosses fingers.*

[Hayate]

A possible remake of G/S/C??? WOOT!

That would be fantastic, I've been waiting for a remake of G/S/C for ages *Crosses fingers*

[Ezxen]

Thats awesome G/S/C were the best in my opinion . Jest imagine the WiFi capability's for the remakes if there made .

[Haruki Hanai]

A text lookup on the games can bring interesting results (whether Coronis should be using questionably legal methods for this is another story) but if text can be produced like this, if it hasn't appeared in the final version who's to say it will happen?

Then again, Johto's had a number of references, certainly.

[charizard_maa]

Johto has been use in refernce the Advance games. If I remember right a person said something about coming from Johto.

Still that what I have always been thinking. That if the going to make a G/S remake then it going to be on the DS. FR/LG came out to close to the release of DS so I don't think they would have made the G/S remake till after the release of the DS. Still I would like it to be on the DS anyways. Bigger syetem more junk the game can have. Maybe Johto won't feel so easy and short.

[Haruki Hanai]

The thing about this one is that the Pokémon location can be pointed out as "From Johto". What that could potentially mean is possibly a Gold and Silver remake, yes. That's a more convincing reference than "Norman came from Johto".

But I digress - if there WILL be a GSC series remake, it should include "From Kanto", otherwise it's not a remake, but a spinoff.

[kwizzeh]

Well, considering this is a new generation and the time function back in (Which in GSC's case was the most important new feature), I guess it's only a matter of time until they actually do it. *backs into lurk mode*

[Pacman]

A G/S/C remake would be awesome.

[The Hunk]

I am thinking the Pokemon that would be in this file would namely be the Pokemon from the Johto Generation (like Scizor, Cleffa, and Gligar) not a remake. Though a remake is not at all impossible.

[Plateface]

There is a G/S remake being planned and currently in drafting.

[RKO1125]

...Oh really? How about some proof? Oh wait...there is no proof? Ya know why? Because you're lying.

[Haruki Hanai]

There is a G/S remake being planned and currently in drafting.
Citations, not speculation, please.

[Plateface]

Well we will see then, won't we.

*makes a rude gesture with finger*

Oh wait I can't do that because none of you can take a joke concerning so-called "threats".

Ignore my imaginery rude finger.

[Xylitol]

GSC remake=win.

OR it could just mean that Sinnoh and Johto are next to each other, so there's no need to say that it was "transferred" from somewhere.

Let's see. There's been a pic of an anime style poke-world map somewhere, but anyway, it shows that Hoenn is south of Johto, and while not really shown, the Sevii Islands are south of Kanto. An area north-west of Johto is all covered in clouds. But now I'm getting off-topic by a lot, so I'll just stop now. It's all speculation afterall. :P

[dakelland12]

i hope there a remake of the johto region because i loved the johto region. please be a remake

[Blastoise]

They probably didn't put in "From Kanto," because the areas are already coded in for transfer from FR/LG or whatever, at least as far as I can tell...correct me if I'm wrong.

Or possibly, Pokemon caught in this supposed G/S/C remake will say "From Johto" regardless of the region you actually caught them in. Lazy Gamefreak. :P

[dakelland12]

i think they might put in hoen in it instead of kanto i hope they do

[Ichaste Pekoni]

i think they might put in hoen in it instead of kanto i hope they do

...What? Hoenn's in RSE...what are you saying?

[Sharpedge]

I hope there is a G/S/C remake, they are the best generation, IMO.

~Sharp

[Cornicapus]

does his mean IF they make a G/S/C remake they'll maybe make a R/S/E casue of FR/LG? (going in order):R/B/Y-G/S/C-R/S/E-FR/LG-D/P/?-Gold/Silver Remmake-5th Generation-ruby/Saph Remake? but maybe that wont happen... if it does we would hav ta wait to oh lets say 2012

lol maybe they'll name it red Ruby and Blue saph.... LOL

anyway i agree wif everyone 2ND GENERATION IS BEST!!!

[Pika_blue]

does his mean IF they make a G/S/C remake they'll maybe make a R/S/E casue of FR/LG? (going in order):R/B/Y-G/S/C-R/S/E-FR/LG-D/P/?-Gold/Silver Remmake-5th Generation-ruby/Saph Remake? but maybe that wont happen... if it does we would hav ta wait to oh lets say 2012

lol maybe they'll name it red Ruby and Blue saph.... LOL

anyway i agree wif everyone 2ND GENERATION IS BEST!!!

FR/LG was a remake of the first two games, they will prob. not make another one. They won't make a remake of RSE becaue Quite Frankly, everyone is satisfied with the Battle Frontier, the Graphics and the Pokemon.

Oh, and I thought of a reson that Johto was programmed ingame. Maybe it was because Jasmine appears in-game, and she was a Johto gymleader.

And Yes, I do agree, Second Gen is best.

[Ichaste Pekoni]

does his mean IF they make a G/S/C remake they'll maybe make a R/S/E casue of FR/LG? (going in order):R/B/Y-G/S/C-R/S/E-FR/LG-D/P/?-Gold/Silver Remmake-5th Generation-ruby/Saph Remake? but maybe that wont happen... if it does we would hav ta wait to oh lets say 2012

lol maybe they'll name it red Ruby and Blue saph.... LOL

Well, that'd be weird. Why remake games when they're able to connect with D/P as-is?

[Shiny_Latios]

yh i think they shall just make G/S/C remakes so that it is easier to get all pokemon *sighs* finally

[~*!*~Queen Boo~*!*~]

I really want a GSC remake they rocked and they ruled

:t354:~*!*~Queen Boo~*!*~

[Law07]

has anyone actually emailed suggestions like this to nintendo or The Pokemon Company? Cause chances are they wont be searching the web for opinions.

[Shion]

Okay, let me get this straight:

I know we all want a G/S remake.

I know fans are screaming out to Nintendo to create one.

I know that Gold and Silver deserve a remake just as much as Red and Green.

But the truth is that THERE WON'T BE A REMAKE.

Stop keeping your pathetic hopes up. If you check the mailbox on the English Pokemon site, you would find that they won't make a remake BECAUSE WE CAN GET ALL THE POKEMON ALREADY ON THE OTHER GAMES! No respect for the classic Johto region we all knew.

You know what the problem is with these people making these games and this Pokemon anime? I'll tell you what: they have no respect for fans. They are just like those stupid currupt businesspeople in charge of making animation in the USA who insist on only making animated movies for children that insult everyone else's intelligence (ie. Chicken Little and Teamo Supremo (ick)).

Do you think the people at Nintendo will listen to our screaming and pleas? OF COURSE NOT!! They never want to replace their staff members and think up wild and fascinating ideas because they ALWAYS HAVE TO STICK TO TRADITION! They only remade the Red and Green games because they were the first games. Do you think they care about what a bunch of rambling adults and teenagers think? They'll only turn a deaf ear to us and pay attention to the pathetic "keep your show the way it is" of little undiscriminating children who actually GROW UP. HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE GROWN UP FROM THAT BLASTED ANIME CALLED POKEMON?!

I'm sick and tired of you wasting your breath and fingers saying you want a remake. Why don't you kill yourself and go to heaven, where you probably can play anything your miserable brains can think up? Fanservice isn't part of Nintendo's vocabulary, so shut up because there won't be a remake of the Gold and Silver versions, and that's final.

So have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year without complaining. :classic:

[J]

There are two main reasons why there won't (I think) be a GSC remake:
1) You can already catch all the GSC Pokemon in Xd/Colo, etc.
2) The game's all about Ho-oh and Lugia, no? But they already made the two unobatainable.

[Crystal ALpha-Star+]

Stop keeping your pathetic hopes up. If you check the mailbox on the English Pokemon site, you would find that they won't make a remake BECAUSE WE CAN GET ALL THE POKEMON ALREADY ON THE OTHER GAMES! No respect for the classic Johto region we all knew.


I am Sorry, but this statment really doesn't mean anything at all. Pokemon.com is maintained by people paid to do it by being given press releases and stuff to rewrite. These people know very, very little more than we do at any given time so this is merely an opinion by one of the writers.

Opinions can be wrong, you know.

[Ichaste Pekoni]

Okay, let me get this straight:

I know we all want a G/S remake.

I know fans are screaming out to Nintendo to create one.

I know that Gold and Silver deserve a remake just as much as Red and Green.

But the truth is that THERE WON'T BE A REMAKE.

Stop keeping your pathetic hopes up. If you check the mailbox on the English Pokemon site, you would find that they won't make a remake BECAUSE WE CAN GET ALL THE POKEMON ALREADY ON THE OTHER GAMES! No respect for the classic Johto region we all knew.

You know what the problem is with these people making these games and this Pokemon anime? I'll tell you what: they have no respect for fans. They are just like those stupid currupt businesspeople in charge of making animation in the USA who insist on only making animated movies for children that insult everyone else's intelligence (ie. Chicken Little and Teamo Supremo (ick)).

Do you think the people at Nintendo will listen to our screaming and pleas? OF COURSE NOT!! They never want to replace their staff members and think up wild and fascinating ideas because they ALWAYS HAVE TO STICK TO TRADITION! They only remade the Red and Green games because they were the first games. Do you think they care about what a bunch of rambling adults and teenagers think? They'll only turn a deaf ear to us and pay attention to the pathetic "keep your show the way it is" of little undiscriminating children who actually GROW UP. HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE GROWN UP FROM THAT BLASTED ANIME CALLED POKEMON?!

I'm sick and tired of you wasting your breath and fingers saying you want a remake. Why don't you kill yourself and go to heaven, where you probably can play anything your miserable brains can think up? Fanservice isn't part of Nintendo's vocabulary, so shut up because there won't be a remake of the Gold and Silver versions, and that's final.

So have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year without complaining. :classic:

Apparently you've had a bad holiday season...well, don't take it out on us. I'm seriously considering reporting you for the flaming...

Also, without concrete proof, that all is basically your opinion and, as the last poster already said, opinions can be wrong.

[Shion]

Apparently you've had a bad holiday season...well, don't take it out on us. I'm seriously considering reporting you for the flaming...

Also, without concrete proof, that all is basically your opinion and, as the last poster already said, opinions can be wrong.

Yeah, but you have to admit that in about 500 episodes, the Pokemon show has about 1/10 the amount of character development that most good anime have in 26 episodes. They just don't want to throw out Ash Ketchum and his electric rat from Hell out of the show in order to please indiscriminating kids.

I also wish at least one Pokemon would be like this after being hit by a hyper beam:
http://images.google.com.my/images?q=tbn:hd_-q3WTvsWzIM:http://cproteam.tripod.com/images/cuddles.gif (if I am banned for posting this picture, I really hope it is temporary)

All people who are sick of adorably hateable cartoon critters such as Pikachu should watch Happy Tree Friends.

Oh yes, and my holiday season was a gas, but thanks for being so concerned.

[Dark Kratos]

well I have been searching the web for info on a possible remake and came across a wiki for it with some rather interesting stuff.

Evidence

Hints of a remake have been mentioned in multiple Pokémon games, including Fire Red and Leaf Green. Also Evidence of a remake had been found in the game data of Pokémon Diamond and Pearl, realesed for the Nintendo DS. Some of the in-game item pictures feature a Key Item named the S.S.Anne Ticket. This ticket was featured in the Pokémon games: Pokémon Red/Blue/Yellow/Gold/Silver/Crystal/Fire Red/Leaf Green. This does beg the question of why is this item in the data.

Other evidence from Diamond & Pearl, is some more Game Data, which deals with the Pokémon's Trainer Memo data, on the Pokémon's Status Screen. It includes Johto as one of the places where a Pokémon can be caught or traded from, however a Pokémon on the advance generation games CANNOT have a Pokémon caught in, or traded from Johto.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pokemon_Gold_and_Silver_Remake

[Ichaste Pekoni]

well I have been searching the web for info on a possible remake and came across a wiki for it with some rather interesting stuff.

Evidence

Hints of a remake have been mentioned in multiple Pokémon games, including Fire Red and Leaf Green. Also Evidence of a remake had been found in the game data of Pokémon Diamond and Pearl, realesed for the Nintendo DS. Some of the in-game item pictures feature a Key Item named the S.S.Anne Ticket. This ticket was featured in the Pokémon games: Pokémon Red/Blue/Yellow/Gold/Silver/Crystal/Fire Red/Leaf Green. This does beg the question of why is this item in the data.

Other evidence from Diamond & Pearl, is some more Game Data, which deals with the Pokémon's Trainer Memo data, on the Pokémon's Status Screen. It includes Johto as one of the places where a Pokémon can be caught or traded from, however a Pokémon on the advance generation games CANNOT have a Pokémon caught in, or traded from Johto.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pokemon_Gold_and_Silver_Remake

Wikipedia is not a reliable source.

[Captain Arcane]

The thing about this one is that the Pokémon location can be pointed out as "From Johto". What that could potentially mean is possibly a Gold and Silver remake, yes. That's a more convincing reference than "Norman came from Johto".

But I digress - if there WILL be a GSC series remake, it should include "From Kanto", otherwise it's not a remake, but a spinoff.

Yes, if they are to remake Gold and Silver, they would have to include Kanto. If they don't, then it would just be a spinoff. Oh, and if many of you guys haven't noticed, Crystal will most likely not be remade. Why? Because, when Fire Red and Leaf Green came out, Yellow version was not remade. If they did, it may of been called Thunder Yellow, anyway. If they did remake Pokemon Yellow, it would mean taking a step backwards threw time. See, Pokemon Leaf, Fire, and Aqua are remakes but also spinoffs. In Fire, Leaf, and Aqua, you live in a time period different from Red, Blue, and Yellow, also Gold, Silver, and Crystal. Well, in each game (Yellow,Crystal, and Emerald) certain things happen in that time period that can't and wont happen again. Examples: Yellow: You caught mewtwo, and the house below Fushia City appeared. (notice how this is kinda following the anime series (except for the catching of mewtwo)). Crystal: The sighting of Suicune, battle, and capture of Suicune and Battle Tower apeared. (again following the anime, except for the capture of Suicune). Finally, Emerald: The precursers of the fight against Groudon and Kyogre, the appearance of Rayquaza, and Battle Frontier appeared.(know I didn't really watch the Hoenn series of the anime, but I know Battle Frontier was in it).

Ok, so know I've shown you three examples of why Yellow, Crystal, and Emerald can't be remade. Beause that would be altering time, but thats why they made a remake-half-spinoff of Red, Blure, and Green. All your doing in Leaf, Fire, and Aqua are revisiting Kanto at a later date. So I cant see why not, why wouldn't they remake Gold and Silver.

But there is a way to make a spinoff of Yellow, Crystal, and Emerald. And it might occur when the game after Pearl and Diamond come out. But I not going to say anything, I'm just going to wait and see.

[Ichaste Pekoni]

Yes, if they are to remake Gold and Silver, they would have to include Kanto. If they don't, then it would just be a spinoff. Oh, and if many of you guys haven't noticed, Crystal will most likely not be remade. Why? Because, when Fire Red and Leaf Green came out, Yellow version was not remade. If they did, it may of been called Thunder Yellow, anyway. If they did remake Pokemon Yellow, it would mean taking a step backwards threw time. See, Pokemon Leaf, Fire, and Aqua are remakes but also spinoffs. In Fire, Leaf, and Aqua, you live in a time period different from Red, Blue, and Yellow, also Gold, Silver, and Crystal. Well, in each game (Yellow,Crystal, and Emerald) certain things happen in that time period that can't and wont happen again. Examples: Yellow: You caught mewtwo, and the house below Fushia City appeared. (notice how this is kinda following the anime series (except for the catching of mewtwo)). Crystal: The sighting of Suicune, battle, and capture of Suicune and Battle Tower apeared. (again following the anime, except for the capture of Suicune). Finally, Emerald: The precursers of the fight against Groudon and Kyogre, the appearance of Rayquaza, and Battle Frontier appeared.(know I didn't really watch the Hoenn series of the anime, but I know Battle Frontier was in it).

Ok, so know I've shown you three examples of why Yellow, Crystal, and Emerald can't be remade. Beause that would be altering time, but thats why they made a remake-half-spinoff of Red, Blure, and Green. All your doing in Leaf, Fire, and Aqua are revisiting Kanto at a later date. So I cant see why not, why wouldn't they remake Gold and Silver.

But there is a way to make a spinoff of Yellow, Crystal, and Emerald. And it might occur when the game after Pearl and Diamond come out. But I not going to say anything, I'm just going to wait and see.

First off, where's this "Pokemon Aqua" stuff coming from?

Second, things happened in each of the past games that make FR/LG have to be in the same time period (namely, the capture of the Legendaries, as you mentioned--Mewtwo's available in both RBY AND FR/LG). So, while they might be some sort of crazy spinoffs, they have to be in the same time period. Therefore, we've already gone back in time and a Thunder Yellow would not be a problem due to that.

Of course, the most likely timeline is that RBY essentially never existed and RSE & FRLG are happening at once (not GSC as that's already confirmed by the game itself to be a few years afterwards, and D/P's supposed to be at the same time, so that's out as well).

[Mudkip85]

Im sure that the majority of us would like to see a remake for the G/S/C series, and it would be nice to see many new features within the Johto region. For one it would be awesome to see the use of different sprites for the pokemon and animation during battling. Adittional storylines would be great too and im sure they would add the 3-d feel to it as they did for the d/p versions.

~Kipper~

[wobbuffetds]

Pokemon and Orange Islands - Two movies
Journeys, League Champions, Master Quest - Three movies
Advanced, Challenge, Advanced Battle, Battle Frontier P1 and P2 - Five Movies
DP - I won't go nuts if there are seven movies.

Look at all the legendaries...ALL OF THEM.

[Captain Arcane]

First off, where's this "Pokemon Aqua" stuff coming from?

Second, things happened in each of the past games that make FR/LG have to be in the same time period (namely, the capture of the Legendaries, as you mentioned--Mewtwo's available in both RBY AND FR/LG). So, while they might be some sort of crazy spinoffs, they have to be in the same time period. Therefore, we've already gone back in time and a Thunder Yellow would not be a problem due to that.

Of course, the most likely timeline is that RBY essentially never existed and RSE & FRLG are happening at once (not GSC as that's already confirmed by the game itself to be a few years afterwards, and D/P's supposed to be at the same time, so that's out as well).

I Think in Japan they made Aqua Blue, instead of Leaf Green, the opposite of what happened with Red And Blue when they came out. But I could of sworn that happened, but I may be wrong. Also, the RBY timeline did exist, cause in GSC, you could use the time machine to trade with red blue, and yellow. Know, I'm pretty sure that RSE, Leaf, Fire, and DP are in the same time period.

And yes, Thunder Yellow, (if it existed, and was called that) would be a problem. Don't you see the resemblence from the anime and the games? Lots of people say that the anime has nothing to do with the games, but they actually do. Again I'm going to explain.

In yellow version, there was a house that was below Fushia City, and had something to do with surfing Pikachu. That house was not in Red, or blue, but was in the anime. In Crystal, the sightings Suicune happened in the anime as well. And in Emerald, the Battle Frontier appeared, just like in the anime. So, the last version for each generation deals more with the anime than any other version of that generation, M'kay.

Second, things happened in each of the past games that make FR/LG have to be in the same time period (namely, the capture of the Legendaries, as you mentioned--Mewtwo's available in both RBY AND FR/LG).

Okay, for the record, the capturing of the legendaries has nothing to do with the anime, its just so the gamer's can "catch'em all". Thats why you can catch them again.

[Haruki Hanai]

I Think in Japan they made Aqua Blue, instead of Leaf Green, the opposite of what happened with Red And Blue when they came out. But I could of sworn that happened, but I may be wrong. Also, the RBY timeline did exist, cause in GSC, you could use the time machine to trade with red blue, and yellow. Know, I'm pretty sure that RSE, Leaf, Fire, and DP are in the same time period.

And yes, Thunder Yellow, (if it existed, and was called that) would be a problem. Don't you see the resemblence from the anime and the games? Lots of people say that the anime has nothing to do with the games, but they actually do. Again I'm going to explain.

In yellow version, there was a house that was below Fushia City, and had something to do with surfing Pikachu. That house was not in Red, or blue, but was in the anime. In Crystal, the sightings Suicune happened in the anime as well. And in Emerald, the Battle Frontier appeared, just like in the anime. So, the last version for each generation deals more with the anime than any other version of that generation, M'kay.



Okay, for the record, the capturing of the legendaries has nothing to do with the anime, its just so the gamer's can "catch'em all". Thats why you can catch them again.
Incorrect. Pocket Monsters Fire Red and Leaf Green correspond to Pocket Monsters Red and Green, which are the original titles. Also, what the anime would have to do with these (the anime is, besides some things like characters such as Sammy Oak as he was designed by Ken Sugimori, non-canonical) is questionable.

[Ichaste Pekoni]

And yes, Thunder Yellow, (if it existed, and was called that) would be a problem. Don't you see the resemblence from the anime and the games? Lots of people say that the anime has nothing to do with the games, but they actually do. Again I'm going to explain.

In yellow version, there was a house that was below Fushia City, and had something to do with surfing Pikachu. That house was not in Red, or blue, but was in the anime. In Crystal, the sightings Suicune happened in the anime as well. And in Emerald, the Battle Frontier appeared, just like in the anime. So, the last version for each generation deals more with the anime than any other version of that generation, M'kay.



Okay, for the record, the capturing of the legendaries has nothing to do with the anime, its just so the gamer's can "catch'em all". Thats why you can catch them again.

Actually, I have noticed that before, but FR/LG aren't comparable to what's going on in the anime--the Battle Frontier comes from Emerald, and there're no Gym battles right now. FR/LG are strictly remakes/spinoffs, completely separate from the anime, and that's what Thunder Yellow would be as well.

And, yeah the legendaries' captures don't have anything to do with the anime, but the RBY legendaries were made unavailable in GSC, supposedly because of the time difference (since we already caught them in RBY). That's why I was saying that FR/LG had to be in the same time period as RBY, or else Nintendo changed their minds along the way (which actually isn't TOO unlikely...).

I thought that D/P had already been confirmed to be in the same time period as GSC...

[Captain Arcane]

Actually, I have noticed that before, but FR/LG aren't comparable to what's going on in the anime--the Battle Frontier comes from Emerald, and there're no Gym battles right now. FR/LG are strictly remakes/spinoffs, completely separate from the anime, and that's what Thunder Yellow would be as well.

And, yeah the legendaries' captures don't have anything to do with the anime, but the RBY legendaries were made unavailable in GSC, supposedly because of the time difference (since we already caught them in RBY). That's why I was saying that FR/LG had to be in the same time period as RBY, or else Nintendo changed their minds along the way (which actually isn't TOO unlikely...).

I thought that D/P had already been confirmed to be in the same time period as GSC...

I know FR/LG aren't comparable to the anime, if I said that, I didn't mean to. Yes, FR/LG are more of spinoffs than remakes because of time. The RBY legendaries where made unavailable in GSC because you could trade with RBY and get them. And I don't really know how you see FR/LG being in the same time period as RBY. To me that makes no sense at all.

And Hiroshi Sotomura, I never said that Fire Red and Leaf Green didn't corispond with Red and Blue. I'm just saying that Fire Red and Leaf Green are spinoffs from Red and Blue.

Example: The Sevii Islands were not in Red or Blue, but they were in Fire Red and Leaf Green.

Berries were never a part of Red and Blue, or the powder bottle.

Your pokemon could never hold items in Red and Blue.

You could only catch 151 Pokemon in Red and Blue, in Fire Red and Leaf Green you could catch 386.

Know some of you people may think I'm being way to specific but a remake means a "remake," down to the very last mega byte. If there is even just one little thing that is new to the remake that was not from the original, it becomes a spinoff, almost a remake though. Even for me, I find that hard to believe, but its true.

And like I said before, the anime really corisponds with the last version of each generation more than any other version from any given generation.

[Ichaste Pekoni]

I know FR/LG aren't comparable to the anime, if I said that, I didn't mean to. Yes, FR/LG are more of spinoffs than remakes because of time. The RBY legendaries where made unavailable in GSC because you could trade with RBY and get them. And I don't really know how you see FR/LG being in the same time period as RBY. To me that makes no sense at all.

...Okay, I must have misunderstood something.

And I say that FR/LG are in the same time period as RBY (or rather, remakes of them with advanced graphics and the Sevii Islands added in) because of the Legendaries' availability. What I understood about the Legendaries missing from GSC (I think I read this in the official strategy guide or something, I don't exactly remember. But it WAS from a Nintendo source) was that they were missing because the R/B character had already caught them all, and them being in GSC would ruin the idea of the Legendaries being one-of-a-kind, which is why I used Mewtwo as an example (after all, as we all know, Mewtwo IS one-of-a-kind in the timeline). However, they show up again in FR/LG, obviously, which tells me that they are the same games as RBY, just redone. Therefore, as I mentioned before, it is most likely that R/B never existed as far as the timeline is now concerned as FR/LG take their place. As far as Yellow goes, though, I'm starting to consider that not canon partly due to the lack of a remake and partly due to how it was sort of a rewrite that's been overwritten (adding your partner Pikachu into the story, then dropping it with FR/LG). There's also the fact that it was labeled "Special Pikachu Edition", which kind of leans toward the idea that it was just a special thing for kids to get to play as if they were Ash, Pikachu and all.

I hope that made sense.

[Captain Arcane]

...Okay, I must have misunderstood something.

And I say that FR/LG are in the same time period as RBY (or rather, remakes of them with advanced graphics and the Sevii Islands added in) because of the Legendaries' availability. What I understood about the Legendaries missing from GSC (I think I read this in the official strategy guide or something, I don't exactly remember. But it WAS from a Nintendo source) was that they were missing because the R/B character had already caught them all, and them being in GSC would ruin the idea of the Legendaries being one-of-a-kind, which is why I used Mewtwo as an example (after all, as we all know, Mewtwo IS one-of-a-kind in the timeline). However, they show up again in FR/LG, obviously, which tells me that they are the same games as RBY, just redone. Therefore, as I mentioned before, it is most likely that R/B never existed as far as the timeline is now concerned as FR/LG take their place. As far as Yellow goes, though, I'm starting to consider that not canon partly due to the lack of a remake and partly due to how it was sort of a rewrite that's been overwritten (adding your partner Pikachu into the story, then dropping it with FR/LG). There's also the fact that it was labeled "Special Pikachu Edition", which kind of leans toward the idea that it was just a special thing for kids to get to play as if they were Ash, Pikachu and all.

I hope that made sense.

But see, I think RBY and LG/FR are in two different time periods. You say different because you are able to catch Mewtwo, which Mewtwo is kinda a special legendary, but the only reason they put him in LG/FR is so you could catch him, and use him in FR/LG/R/S/E/Colosseum/XD Gale of Darkness. So thats why I think its in a different time period. But I supose that we might always have two different opinions. But whatever, I still think that LG/FR are in different time periods, plus I also have a lot of evidence to back up my opinion.

[Ichaste Pekoni]

But see, I think RBY and LG/FR are in two different time periods. You say different because you are able to catch Mewtwo, which Mewtwo is kinda a special legendary, but the only reason they put him in LG/FR is so you could catch him, and use him in FR/LG/R/S/E/Colosseum/XD Gale of Darkness. So thats why I think its in a different time period. But I supose that we might always have two different opinions. But whatever, I still think that LG/FR are in different time periods, plus I also have a lot of evidence to back up my opinion.

Okay, then may I ask you how you account for TWO of a Legendary that, no matter how you look at it, is one-of-a-kind (not counting other copies of the game, of course)?

[Cornicapus]

Wait didnt the games come before the anime (not counting R/B/Y)?

And why wouldnt they make a G/S/C remake? theres nothing stopping them and they could make alot of money from it.

Also are you sure you can already catch all the obtainable pokemon? because i am pretty sure that you cant catch stantler,Milktank,Mareep and all the other pokemon you catch in altering cave?

[cman2445]

Wait didnt the games come before the anime (not counting R/B/Y)?

And why wouldnt they make a G/S/C remake? theres nothing stopping them and they could make alot of money from it.

Also are you sure you can already catch all the obtainable pokemon? because i am pretty sure that you cant catch stantler,Milktank,Mareep and all the other pokemon you catch in altering cave?

I think you can catch all of those in Emerald.

[Lord_Sesshoumaru]

I think you can catch all of those in Emerald.

Hey, We are talking about Diamond and Pearl not other older version games...

[Always and Never]

Actually, we're talking about G/S remake. I miss those games. Nintendo/Gamefreak owe us a remake because of the clock glitch. You know how in R/S how it would say "internal clock run dry". It did that in G/S too. That's why it won't save. They owe us.

[stezy]

They shud just make a game with all the regions in it, i think it would be kl, although it wud take up alot of the games memory, you wuddnt get bored so fath of completing it and you would truly be able to catch them all, or make an anime version where ash can travel through all the missed out bits in the game like the battle frontier being in Kanto and so on...
Either way a johto remake would be pretty swell but i cant see that happening when they included most of i in Kanto but as Sevii instead. Besides after Sinnoh there will prob be a new region

[isaac2112]

I think that you guys are making way big of a deal out of the timelines of the games. Fire red and Leaf green are remakes with things added in the games. FR/LG and RBY have to be in the same time because why would team rocket reenact there plans again a few years later? Giovanni desides to take over the same places twice? LOL, anyways, maybe I am just being ignorant. you tell me..

But a GSC remake would be really nice because its a lot of people's favorite generation. But they might not because all johto pokemon are already catchable.

EDIT: sorry. I did not realize how old this topic is.

[Scizz]

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