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nicoleb
November 24th, 2006, 07:33 PM
Okay. So I was talking with an AIM friend, Paper Fairy, two nights ago when we both had this really kick-ass idea. Paper Fairy's already posted this idea on SPPF, BGF and PE2000, so I'm posting it here, too.

The idea goes something like this; Using the wonderful, advanced technology of computer microphones and FLASH Player, we make an animated series of PokeSpecial. We're planning on doing the audio first, then the openings (see below), then filling in the art with the audio. I figure we'll need a hell-load of artists for this (we will, of course, be doing it on the computer), and also a lot of voice actors. We're quite happy with the results on BG (they seemed to be planning a Radio Drama and would like to merge with us). Of course, finding voice actors is the easy part, as is getting the music and sound effects. The animation will be very hard, I know. Especially if we want to make it look decent.

I'm okay with backgrounds, but I doubt I could do them all by myself. Action scenes are hard as hell. We want to make it look as much like the PokeSpecial art as possible, though we haven't figured out a style yet. So if you think you're any good at drawing and animating, just dunk a couple of examples in this thread and we'll work our way up from there.

Music is no problem. There's a sound CD of the Anime and game background tracks on GH.

If you think you'd do well with a voice, simply record yourself, in character, via a computer microphone, upload it, and link it in this thread. Be sure to tell us what character you're auditioning for, too.

This is not legal, no, but we're not making a profit from it, so I doubt we'll get into any trouble. And if we do, the worst they can do is ask us to stop (which we won't, BTW).

We're guestimating about 10 minutes per episode, though some will be longer than others. I'm not sure how long it will take to make each one. We want to do the audio recording first, too.

Any questions or requests to join the project, post here, or at the three other threads we have;

http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=171631
http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showthread.php?p=299708#post299708
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26733&highlight=Manga

Or here, on our boards;

http://z8.invisionfree.com/PokeSpecial_Animated/index.php?

(I'm not sure if we'll be using the Japanese names or the English names yet. We certainly won't be using Japanese words. (E.G., Chan, Kun, San, Sama, etc..))

I'm quite confident that the Openings can be done easily. Note that "ARATANARU CHIKAI," Crystal's Opening, uses the masculine "ore," so we're gonna have to re-sing that one. Anyone who knows Japanese (knows Japanese, not thinks they do), feel free to try out. ^_^

MEZASE POKEMON MASUTAA -- RGB
RAIBARU -- Yellow
OK! -- GS
ARATANARU CHIKAI -- Crystal
READY, GO -- GSC
ADVANCE ADVENTURE -- RS
MEZASE POKEMON MASUTAA 2000 -- FR&LG
BATTLE FRONTIER -- Emerald
TOGETHER -- DP

We're planning to do a Colosseum/XD (mix) Saga, too, fan written, but I'd like to do all these first. Colosseum/XD will use SPURT.

hobohunter
November 24th, 2006, 07:50 PM
Oh wow that would be amazing. I would like to help, but unfortunatly I don't know anything abotu flash player

Akari+
November 24th, 2006, 11:19 PM
Wow, I was thinking of this myself for a while... Didn't think anyone would actually try to do it though.

Um, but the way you're making it, are you going to use the art in the manga as a basis and then animate them? Or are you going to just go with the script and then make up your own art?

What I mean is, are you going to just animate the panels and drawings and stuff, or are you going to make pictures from scratch?

I think my voice is terrible, to be honest, but I could help with drawings... I'll scan something over the weekend if I can, I guess. I'll probably draw Ruby or Silver, as they're my favorites, but Red is actually one of the easiest to draw... Not sure if I can draw pokemon that well though. >_>

Edit: Oh, and for stuff like pokemon... It's not gonna be like in the show where a Pikachu would say 'Pikachu', right? They're going to have actual roars and cries?

Maxim
November 25th, 2006, 01:45 AM
Nicoleb, wonderful as always.
Your ideas are wonderful too.
I would soooo much love to do the Polish dub of it.
Or, to dub Bill in English because he has a problems with language and accent. Just like me (because I'm not native english).

You have a supporter in me.

We're planning to do a Colosseum/XD (mix) Saga, too, fan written, but I'd like to do all these first. Colosseum/XD will use SPURT.
Or do TCG! I love TCG for GB! Or maybe Mystery Dungeon (based on Ginji's Rescue Team).

Ash_Pokemaster
November 25th, 2006, 05:15 AM
Wonderful idea~! I'll try to support the idea, I'm not make voice of any character (though it would fit Red I think XD), my accent is nearly native English (though I'm not native English-speaking), but anyway, it would be still too difficult due to lack of time.
Anyway, I love the idea, and hope that it will materialized, if there would be anything I could help with, I would undoubtedly do so!

Pikachu_Charizard
November 25th, 2006, 03:07 PM
Wait you can link to other forums? Doh!
No offense but these projects seem to die.
Well....Good Luck!

Akari+
November 25th, 2006, 06:08 PM
Nah, the only problem's getting this kind of thing started.

Anyways... I read over that Serebii thread, and apparently you want people to draw out a scene? Oh well, nevermind that Ruby I drew then.

So uh... When you think of the scene, do you want it coloured, or is a sketch ok?

Oh, and what about the nicknames? I mean, Red nicknames his pokemon by the first part of a pokemon's name, so would Bulbasaur be called Fushi? Or are you just gonna scrap nicknames? Because there's a little story bit about Blue and her nicknaming of pokemon... So I think that the nicknames should be in the script...

Pikachu_Charizard
November 25th, 2006, 07:09 PM
Just forget about the nicknames.

Maxim
November 26th, 2006, 01:28 AM
Nah, the only problem's getting this kind of thing started.

Anyways... I read over that Serebii thread, and apparently you want people to draw out a scene? Oh well, nevermind that Ruby I drew then.

So uh... When you think of the scene, do you want it coloured, or is a sketch ok?

Oh, and what about the nicknames? I mean, Red nicknames his pokemon by the first part of a pokemon's name, so would Bulbasaur be called Fushi? Or are you just gonna scrap nicknames? Because there's a little story bit about Blue and her nicknaming of pokemon... So I think that the nicknames should be in the script...

I don't think if Nicoleb wants to use Coronis's fake nicknames. Fanon names is a bad thing. And since the series will be in English no Japanese nicknames. Take it as English dub. English dub uses only official English translations.

Akari+
November 26th, 2006, 10:42 AM
They're not fanon, I think I remember reading before, and that Blue and Yellow had extensions to their pokemon's names. And Ruby even has his pokemon's nicknames in clear english. (Ralts/Kirlia = Ruru, Feebas/Milotic = Mimi, etc.)

Maxim
November 26th, 2006, 10:56 AM
They're not fanon, I think I remember reading before, and that Blue and Yellow had extensions to their pokemon's names. And Ruby even has his pokemon's nicknames in clear english. (Ralts/Kirlia = Ruru, Feebas/Milotic = Mimi, etc.)

Coronis left Ruby's Pokemon alone.
But rest of Coronis's names are completely fanon. He freely admits it.

Paperfairy
November 26th, 2006, 11:40 AM
I actually like Chang-Yi/Viz's nicknames, I think we might stick with those.... I'll talk to her tonight.

Akari+
November 26th, 2006, 12:28 PM
Coronis freely admits that he used the nicknames as a basis, and Fushi is actually an original nickname for Red's Bulbasaur, and I'm pretty sure Blue nicked her pokemon with 'chan'...

I've never read the ViZ/ChangYi translations though, so I don't know what kind of names they use... Nicoleb's topic of scans are those, right? I guess I'll have to read them then...

Maxim
November 26th, 2006, 01:10 PM
Coronis freely admits that he used the nicknames as a basis, and Fushi is actually an original nickname for Red's Bulbasaur, and I'm pretty sure Blue nicked her pokemon with 'chan'...

I've never read the ViZ/ChangYi translations though, so I don't know what kind of names they use... Nicoleb's topic of scans are those, right? I guess I'll have to read them then...

Fusshi IS Official japanese nickname but since it's supposed to be English I'm sure that Nicoleb will use English names not Japanese.

Viz/Chuang Yi didn't use any nicknames for Red and Blue. They did for Yellow and every newer character (except those that didn't nickname their Pokemon in original, like Silver). And they keep Japanese nicknames for Ruby.

So, since "Fusshi" is Japanese-only and "Saur" is fanon I'm sure that nicoleb won't use any of them. In official English version of manga Red and Blue didn't nickname their Pokemon. So, stick to Official English Version!

Imakuni?
November 26th, 2006, 02:10 PM
if you need mp3's for MEZASE POKEMON MASUTAA and MEZASE POKEMON MASUTAA 2000, i have them. i bought the cds a long time ago.;

Akari+
November 26th, 2006, 04:20 PM
Wait a second, then is the girl gonna be named Green? And Blue's gonna be the boy that's not Red? And here I thought it would stick to the original version... ._.

Luиαrglοω
November 26th, 2006, 05:04 PM
I can already see this idea dying.. slowly and painfully...

Paperfairy
November 26th, 2006, 05:21 PM
if you need mp3's for MEZASE POKEMON MASUTAA and MEZASE POKEMON MASUTAA 2000, i have them. i bought the cds a long time ago.;

Thanks, but we have them already.

Wait a second, then is the girl gonna be named Green? And Blue's gonna be the boy that's not Red? And here I thought it would stick to the original version... ._.

Boy - Green
Girl - Blue


I can already see this idea dying.. slowly and painfully...

Look at me, getting all exicted over a new post only to see that's it's someone with nothing nice to say. Thanks for your support. >.>

Pikachu_Charizard
November 26th, 2006, 08:39 PM
This thread is pretty sucessful cosidering it`s only existed for 2 days and is the manga section. But how are you going to choose who voices who?

nicoleb
November 26th, 2006, 11:33 PM
Sorry. I don't have much time to post now. I'll edit this later, though, so check back and I'll answer some questions that Paper Fairy missed or whatnot.

Paper Fairy made this amazing board;

http://z8.invisionfree.com/PokeSpecial_Animated/index.php?

This is where we hope the Manga idea will grow. Since the threads we set up are this popular, though, I don't really wanna close them until we get a large ammount of members on our boards. Be sure to join! ^_^

Imakuni?
November 27th, 2006, 07:03 AM
Sorry. I don't have much time to post now. I'll edit this later, though, so check back and I'll answer some questions that Paper Fairy missed or whatnot.

Paper Fairy made this amazing board;

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This is where we hope the Manga idea will grow. Since the threads we set up are this popular, though, I don't really wanna close them until we get a large ammount of members on our boards. Be sure to join! ^_^

uhhhhhh.... i think you should remove that link, seeing as its against the rules to link to other forums here @ pc

Paperfairy
November 27th, 2006, 05:59 PM
Hm, it is? Then I'll tell her to, and we'll just PM each of you with the link.... or something.

nicoleb
November 27th, 2006, 06:26 PM
uhhhhhh.... i think you should remove that link, seeing as its against the rules to link to other forums here @ pc
I highly doubt linking to an area used for discussing this topic is against the rules. I think linking for publicity is against the rules. It's much easier having one Forum to discuss this topic on than four.

Pikachu_Charizard
November 27th, 2006, 08:25 PM
So....have you got anything done?

Paperfairy
November 28th, 2006, 06:03 AM
Why don't you check our board and find out? ^_~

Luиαrglοω
November 28th, 2006, 11:22 AM
Sorry. I don't have much time to post now. I'll edit this later, though, so check back and I'll answer some questions that Paper Fairy missed or whatnot.

Paper Fairy made this amazing board;

http://z8.invisionfree.com/PokeSpeci...ted/index.php?

This is where we hope the Manga idea will grow. Since the threads we set up are this popular, though, I don't really wanna close them until we get a large ammount of members on our boards. Be sure to join! ^_^

Hm, it is? Then I'll tell her to, and we'll just PM each of you with the link.... or something.


Problem...:
No linking to other forums.
You may not link to a forum in posts or PMs. If you wish to link to a forum, use your sig. An exception is made when posting a link to a different forum as an example of something you think should be implemented on PC. These can only be made in Community Questions and Feedback.

SOLUTION...:
No linking to other forums.
You may not link to a forum in posts or PMs. If you wish to link to a forum, use your sig. An exception is made when posting a link to a different forum as an example of something you think should be implemented on PC. These can only be made in Community Questions and Feedback.

Paperfairy
November 28th, 2006, 12:20 PM
Ahh okay. Thank you. *adds to sig*

Grimsg
November 28th, 2006, 03:32 PM
Uh you do know that 10min is enough for any animator to commit 'harakiri' unless you have about 5 people working on this minimum.

I suggest you scrap voice actors because bad sound quality (from crappy microphones) is enough to ruin an entire piece. You also need people to mix the sound levels so that they don't sound stark etc. And it also makes ainmator's lives easier with less lip syncing. Even if you just do like slight mouthing and subtitles, it's still going to work if you have the right BGM and SFX.

Grimsg

Pikachu_Charizard
November 28th, 2006, 08:28 PM
To tell you the truth this project will die because it will take about a week to animate a second.

Paperfairy
November 29th, 2006, 01:12 PM
That's not true, and I would appreciate if you would stop being so negative. If you've nothing nice to say, please don't say anything at all, Pikachu_Charizard.

eevee-me
November 29th, 2006, 04:13 PM
To tell you the truth this project will die because it will take about a week to animate a second.

Yes that excactly how animation works...
I'd love to help out in some way!

Pikachu_Charizard
November 29th, 2006, 08:57 PM
That's not true, and I would appreciate if you would stop being so negative. If you've nothing nice to say, please don't say anything at all, Pikachu_Charizard.
I`m not being negative I`m being realistic, I want this project to be sucessful.
Also how long will it take to animate a second?

Paperfairy
November 30th, 2006, 07:01 AM
If you want it to be succesful, why don't you stop saying it will die?

eevee-me, if you REALLY want to help, click the link in my sig, join and post.

Grimsg
November 30th, 2006, 03:33 PM
I think at the end of the day, it's really passion that will drive this project. It's going to be tough but if you stick by it etc. it will have the probability of working.

Grimsg

Pikachu_Charizard
November 30th, 2006, 08:32 PM
If you want it to be succesful, why don't you stop saying it will die?

eevee-me, if you REALLY want to help, click the link in my sig, join and post.

OK,but how long will it take to animate a second?

Grimsg
December 1st, 2006, 04:50 PM
This stuff:

http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/43849718/

Took 1.5hrs of my time.

Grimsg

Hikarii
December 19th, 2006, 02:49 PM
Augh. I read this the thread like three times. I just dump some form of artwork here if I want to apply to be an artist? o______________o;;

Heeere. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/pillbunny/hahahnopng.jpg) It was done quite awhile ago. XD;

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~
December 24th, 2006, 02:13 PM
I wish that I can help but I'm not that good in technology or art, but I'm good in HTML coding and stuff

:t354:~*!*~Queen Boo~*!*~

User_Name
January 17th, 2007, 02:32 PM
I really think this could work if you stick with it. If you were to scrap anything I would scrap the art. I don't have link but I once came across a site that had a Neko Majin audio version. It was excellent! Try to google it.