Running out of ideas...??

[Exokriz]

Is it just me or do you think that they are running out of ideas for new pokemon? I've noticed that alot of the new pokemon look way to cartoony even for the show. I'm pretty sure that I would run out ideas for something new also espcially if I got over 400 of them. To me, I think they could have done a way better job on them. I like the Pre-Evos and Evo's of some of the old pokemon, but alot of them were really unnecessary like the Rhydon and Togetic Evolutions. I'm not saying it's bad, but it really seems like they have really lost the spark of new pokemon. To me, I love the original 151 pokemon and I like the other 235 pokemon, but now its like they didn't put as much thought into the new ones as the others. Don't get me wrong though, I am definitly going to get D/P when it comes out. I'm hoping for a S/G/C remake as well.

[Lil-Dill]

Ya! U r kinda right in ur point of views. But im going to agree with u tht they made the new pokemon too cartoony n they hve ran out of ideas. I also really hope they remake Silver/Gold/Crystal(trust me itll be good^_^)

[Prince Kingdra]

I like some of the new pokemon especially the starters.

[Lavabyle]

Well, of course if you do anything for a long period of time, you will eventually run out of ideas. I mean the monkey fire starter....eww

[Samson]

it's not that they're running out of ideas, because there are so many out there, but it's that they just aren't thinking of them :D

[Shiny_Latios]

i think they look better thank fakemon people make (no offence my opinion) but yes they are running out of ideas and combos like mokazaru and goukazaru are fire fighting but at the mo i think they are great

[Nicku]

I don't think they're running out of ideas. It's just any bad ideas they got. I think.. The new Pokemon looks like robots, and some not look like a (pre-)evo but just a bad imitation ._.

- Nicku

[Forsaken]

It does seem that the are loseing their spark take that sorry excuse for a pokemon, Dainoozu. I draw pokemon alot and most of them look better and cooler than most of these.

[Bobby]

Yeah, I was thinking this as well. They made up way too many pre-evolutions and second stages and such this generation. I believe we'll get one more ok set out of them and then it's just going to be stupid.

[daigon]

It looks like Gamefreak is kind of running out of ideas. I'm surprised that some Pokemon still don't have an evolution, like Pulse and Ditto.

[AzzA3809]

I think that they should fire the people they have now and get a new bunch in... New people new Ideas

[Superiore]

Some of them look like kid's drawings.
Magneton's evolution looks nothing like it.

[~*!*~Queen Boo~*!*~]

You do make a point??, there was no need for a Eletabuzz, Magmar, Rhydon and a bunch of others, but I'm happy that they made a ghost type Legendary and made an evolution of Misdreavus, Snorunt and Dusclops, also making a Ghost/Flying type XD. But it was a good idea of making a Murkrow evolution considering it was a weak Pokemon from the begin with

:t354:~*!*~Queen Boo~*!*~

[coolcobra77]

You're right they are getting a little wierd.

Togetic needed no evo. Dosidon was wierd but ok. I like some of the new types though and some of the new pokemon (Rotomu (ghost/electic).

The Glacia and Lefia weren't really needed. (Vaporeon is better than Glacia anyway.)

Tehy are running out of ideas, but they had some good creative sparks this time.

[~*!*~Queen Boo~*!*~]

other pokemon that weren't really needed

1.) Aipom evo
2.) Magneton evo
3.) Yanma evo
4.) Gligar evo (WTF it looks nothing like Gligar)
5.) nosepass evo (creeps me out)

:t354:~*!*~Queen Boo~*!*~

[Cresselia]

No, I dont think Nintendo is running out of ideas. There's still tons of animals out there they still haven't based their Pokemon on. ;P However, I think a lot of the pre evolutions/alternative evolutions/evolutions were unnessicary. Togekiss looks horrid; and I'm not very fond of Jibacoil either.. And the Eevee evolutions weren't really needed either. I just really think they need to quit making the evolutions, and just base Pokemon on different ideas.

[Lavabyle]

Now that i think about it more, they're entering a digimon-ish phase. They're less like animals and more like.........mutated creature ma-jingys

[axlefoley]

I think maybe more types would help what kind of types would you make up? Togekiss sucks in my opinion Rhydon evo was a bit unnecessary new eeveelutions are cool Magneton evo please shoot it! But yeah there are whole world of things out there that could be made into pokemon I mean have they used any marsupials yet how about a rabbit pokemon I don't think they have one of those (But don't quote me on that I can't remember em all).

[Crimson Arcanine]

I believe there is at least one pokemon based off a marsupial, Kangashkan I believe. And Psyduck probably had some relation to a platypus as well I believe. And there is a rabbit pokemon, its quite well known, its called Azumarill.

However they do need one or two marsupial pokemon. Maybe a possum pokemon or something? ;)

[Blazichu]

I think maybe more types would help what kind of types would you make up? Togekiss sucks in my opinion Rhydon evo was a bit unnecessary new eeveelutions are cool Magneton evo please shoot it! But yeah there are whole world of things out there that could be made into pokemon I mean have they used any marsupials yet how about a rabbit pokemon I don't think they have one of those (But don't quote me on that I can't remember em all).

Yeah, a new type would have been good, the new evos of Pokemon that have existed since the GSC series are bad.

[Samson]

hey... the togekiss evo is awesome. it's definitely something new, being one of the first normal/flying pokemon with a high special attack. also, togetic DEFINITELY needed an evo. it's virtually useless, but togetic is going to change that.

i'm definitely having a togekiss on my team. plus, fly has been boosted to 90 POWER, so i won't have to worry about using aerodactyl has a HM slave.

[axlefoley]

I believe there is at least one pokemon based off a marsupial, Kangashkan I believe. And Psyduck probably had some relation to a platypus as well I believe. And there is a rabbit pokemon, its quite well known, its called Azumarill.

However they do need one or two marsupial pokemon. Maybe a possum pokemon or something? ;)

I suppose kangaskhan is a marsupial sort of but it doesn't exactly scream kangaroo, Psyduck duck it is a duck and besides that a platypus is an echinoderm, Azumarill sorry completely forgot about it.

[Ichaste Pekoni]

I suppose kangaskhan is a marsupial sort of but it doesn't exactly scream kangaroo

THE POUCH. *KANGAROO!!!!*

...And Miimori (sp? Y'know, the one that Pearl has) is a rabbit Pokemon in D/P...

[Exokriz]

Nosepass's Evolution is freaking scary as heck, I think I would run from that thing if i ever saw one rather then catch it. The Rhydon evolution was way too much, I like Rhydon because they look cool but this new evolution for it killed it. I really like the Male Kirlia evolution, they should have done it in R/S/E because Gardevoir really seems like a transexual as a male....lol.

[Dawson]

I do think that they're running out of ideas. They've been quite short of ideas since the R/B/Y generation. The following generations only really had a handful of well designed Pokemon each.

Though what I really want to know is which idiot is approving some of those things to be in the actual games. I mean, honestly, some of them are completely awful and quite a few more are very average. I've seen fake Pokemon sprites that are better than a lot of the 4th generation.

They need to get some new creative designers and use the vast amount of creatures in the animal kingdom and a bit of creative inspiration to design the Pokemon. Rather than just accepting some of the crap they've got now.

[Cowrie]

I suppose kangaskhan is a marsupial sort of but it doesn't exactly scream kangaroo, Psyduck duck it is a duck and besides that a platypus is an echinoderm, Azumarill sorry completely forgot about it.
Platypus is a monotreme. Echinoderms are things like starfish and sea urchins.

Rabbits = Aside from Azumarill, there's also Mimiroru and Mimilop. Three rabbits so far, and that's not counting any pokemon that people could argue to be rabbits as well.

But anyways.

I agree that they could've had fewer evolutions, or at least more originals this time around - but I honestly don't think they're quite "running out of ideas" yet. Barring the evolutions, which risk suffering from lack of inspiration anyways since they're usually made to look somewhat like the pokemon they're related to, I thought they had some awesome ideas this time around. Design-wise, this is actually the generation I've liked best since second gen...and second gen is my favorite, so yeah.

[axlefoley]

THE POUCH. *KANGAROO!!!!*

Um you do realise that A kangaroo isn't the only animal in the world with a pouch? possum, koala in fact all marsupials have pouchs hence why they are marsupials.

Platypus is a monotreme. Echinoderms are things like starfish and sea urchins.

I have no idea why I get those 2 mixed up all the time they sound nothing a like and they both describe something different, I dunno oh well call me stupid.

How about an ant eater pokemon or maybe a chair one lol?

[wallym22]

i think some of the pokemon do look really stupid like tangelas evolution, but they have great abilities, stats, and movesets. So theres some bad and some good in it i guess

[Shining_Parukia]

if they ran out of ideas then why would they still continue pokemon i hate when people complain about the the pokemon then when they come out they are like yeah the new ones are Pwnage

[Arctic Dragon]

You do make a point??, there was no need for a Eletabuzz, Magmar, Rhydon and a bunch of others, but I'm happy that they made a ghost type Legendary and made an evolution of Misdreavus, Snorunt and Dusclops, also making a Ghost/Flying type XD. But it was a good idea of making a Murkrow evolution considering it was a weak Pokemon from the begin with

:t354:~*!*~Queen Boo~*!*~

Snorunt always had an evo! Glalie!!! But I knew that they were running out of ideas when I saw Chimecho. A wind chime Pokemon? I mean, come on. I'm mad that they still haven't made a wolf pokemon!!!!!

[yasu-trainer]

You certainly have touched a hot topic here. But, to some degree, you're right. I mean, the pine tree Pokemon tells you something. They also made some that there really was no need for (I'm talking about you, Dootakun... and Etebossu, and Nosepass' evo). Although, I personally can think of a lot of Pokemon they could still do *cough*kangaroo*cough*
We'll just have to wait and see what Nintendo does in the years to come.

[yasu-trainer]

Snorunt always had an evo! Glalie!!! But I knew that they were running out of ideas when I saw Chimecho. A wind chime Pokemon? I mean, come on. I'm mad that they still haven't made a wolf pokemon!!!!!

I don't know about the whole wolf thing. I always thought of Mightyena as a wolf to some degree, despite hyena being in the name. It really looks more like a wolf than a hyena. Well, enough arguing about current Pokemon. We should worry more about what they'll make next. (Shudders after taking another look at Nosepass' evo).

[Mudkip85]

Yeah i do think that they are rapidly running out of new creations for pokemon. Some of d/p generation pokemon just look rushed and doesnt seem to give the impression that its a newer better generation. Some of the new pokemon may be good, but i think that the reason why they slipped a bit on the designs of the new generation pokemon, was because they were focusing on other aspects of the games and TV shows such as storylines and designs of cities, which i must say well deserved credit is dued to. I just seriously hope that they start to think long and hard about the development of the next generation of pokemon.

~Kipper~

[.Bastion]

I think that they definitely need some inspiration. I agree that the many new evolutions and pre-evolutions are showing that they are starting to run out of ideas and can't make any more well designed original pokemon. Some of them I think are great and are an excellent addition but others really didn't need one. That's right, I'm looking at the evolved forms of Magneton, Nosepass, Electabuzz, Magmar, and Rhydon

Hopefully next generation they'll go for a more original approach.

[charizard_maa]

Yeah. I didn't like the idea of them making evolutions of some 1st generation pokemon like Electabuzz and Magmar. WHere is our Jynx evoltution. They could have done better with the Tangla one and Magneton didn't need one. The new eevee evolutions are ok but the ice one isn't needed. I was more of hoping for a steel eevee evolution personity. The pre evolutions I can do with out but what can you say. Not like we are actually going to use them because the first thing we going to do is evolve them. Glad that male Ralts have a more manly evolution now.

The new pokemon themselves are nice. They are new and fresh. I really can see some stuff being done with the legends. DOn't like the flaming monkey starter because fire and fighting has already been done (look under Torchic and Blazeken) so that made it the weakest compare to the other two starts. I say they did a good job at mixing the types. Poison and Dark: Now we have a poison type that isn't weak against Psychics.

Didn't like some of the evolutions of the past generation pokemon but did like the new typings this time.

[Professor Pine]

I think they aren't as good as the oringnals but if you made almost 500 pokemon i think you would start to run out of ideas.Plus I heard that when the 3rd gen came out people complained about simlaraties between them and 1st or 2nd (such as Weedle and Caterpie to Wurmple or Butterfree to Beautifly and Dustox) so they tried to make these ones look different.
Personally I think alot of the fakemons i design are better than many of the new pokes but i reckon that Nintendo should base more on animals that haven already had a poke based on it.

Hopefully next generation they'll go for a more original approach.
Haven't you considered there might not be a 5th gen? They do seem to running out of ideas and a ledgedary in it is decribed as the ''creation'' pokemon, the one that created the world. Legdedaries have increased in story-line importance
from Mewtwo with only powerful fighting to Groundon and Kyogre, masters of the land and oceans. You can't get much bigger than a ''god'' pokemon. This could be the last of the generations!

[Haruki Hanai]

I think they aren't as good as the oringnals but if you made almost 500 pokemon i think you would start to run out of ideas.Plus I heard that when the 3rd gen came out people complained about simlaraties between them and 1st or 2nd (such as Weedle and Caterpie to Wurmple or Butterfree to Beautifly and Dustox) so they tried to make these ones look different.
Personally I think alot of the fakemons i design are better than many of the new pokes but i reckon that Nintendo should base more on animals that haven already had a poke based on it.


Haven't you considered there might not be a 5th gen? They do seem to running out of ideas and a ledgedary in it is decribed as the ''creation'' pokemon, the one that created the world. Legdedaries have increased in story-line importance
from Mewtwo with only powerful fighting to Groundon and Kyogre, masters of the land and oceans. You can't get much bigger than a ''god'' pokemon. This could be the last of the generations!
Really? I thought people were complaining that the 3rd generation Pokémon like Beautifly looked more naturalistic rather than abstractive (Beautifly has more features to make it LOOK like a butterfly, for instance).

[Piloswine Magnet]

I believe that the 3rd generation was a break for Nintendo. it was relatively disappointing

[Law07]

I think in some pokemon they have lost it like some of those ones that you see in route 201 or something

But all the legendaries including Diaruga look so f***ing awesome!

Just cut down abit on evolutions, get more creative and imaginative designers in and bingo. Maybe they arent using ideas on purpose...so they can save them for another kick ass game...humbug

[[Phantom Upheaval]]

For battling, I think they're out of idea.

An update since RBY, so far, are hold item, ability, double battle, 510 EV limit and attack split.

But they could add more to normal game, like voice command and season in time system.

[Law07]

;2324616']For battling, I think they're out of idea.

An update since RBY, so far, are hold item, ability, double battle, 510 EV limit and attack split.

But they could add more to normal game, like voice command and season in time system.

Voice command would be too difficult to manage I think. Like pronouncing some attack moves may be different and CALLING out pokemon, people pronounce different pokemon differently. Like Ky-og-re or Ky-oger. I've got the Brain Training came were you shout out the answers to sums, I get everyone of them wrong because I pronounce "8" differently

As for the seasons, well at least we have the time system back! And when you think about is there really any point in seasons? I mean like for Winter youd obviously want snow but there is already loads of snow in the mountains, and it doesnt always snow everywere anyway. The summer would get kind of boring, as a matter of fact whats so different in the Summer, heat? You dont need heat in a game.

[Spriter]

Is it just me or do you think that they are running out of ideas for new pokemon? I've noticed that alot of the new pokemon look way to cartoony even for the show. I'm pretty sure that I would run out ideas for something new also espcially if I got over 400 of them. To me, I think they could have done a way better job on them. I like the Pre-Evos and Evo's of some of the old pokemon, but alot of them were really unnecessary like the Rhydon and Togetic Evolutions. I'm not saying it's bad, but it really seems like they have really lost the spark of new pokemon. To me, I love the original 151 pokemon and I like the other 235 pokemon, but now its like they didn't put as much thought into the new ones as the others. Don't get me wrong though, I am definitly going to get D/P when it comes out. I'm hoping for a S/G/C remake as well.

I soooooo agree with you. Their pokemon are to cheesey. espesially that round spikey gost thing coming out of a pot!

[Poké King]

Have they ran out of ideas or are starting too, well Pokémon has been around over 10 years so starting to run out of ideas is pretty much expected but I think with this newest batch they are scraping the bottom of a barrel course to some extent the same could of been said for the last batch too.

A few things they messed up on is:
1) So man damn legendaries.
2) Not enough Pokémon in this batch.
3) Making a bunch of unnecessary pre evo's and evo's of already existing Pokémon.
4) Making alot of #3 look stupid.
5) Finally making the overall appearance of the newest batch not mesh well with the other generations course that could be said for the previous generations but when it comes to the newest batch there is such a defined difference look wise its a bit ridiculous.

But in the end they gotta do what they gotta do to make the cut course me personally I have thought up 33 Pokémon for a Pokémon game I am doing that are pretty good in both appearance, ability and that they make sense when it comes to those which are evo's/pre evo's. And I have done that because I looked at past generation when making them and went by there appearances & style rather than just think up a creature in my head like they probably did.

But all this is besides the point because one there made and in the game so we all are gonna play with them plus if they didn't do what they did then we be having a thread about how there were so little Pokémon for this new generation.

[J]

Yeah there are WAY too many Legendaries this Generation :(
And lots of the pre-evo's are unneeded.

[Samson]

whoever said voice command would be too difficult: yah, but it's as simple as placing a number for each slot, and saying the slot number. for instance, for a moveset, thunderbolt would be, say, in slot 2. the person would then just have to say the number "2". voice command COULD work then, and though i'm sure they've thought of this, the truth: they're just too lazy. their response: "we're working towards the future".

it's how businesses work.

[~Jak~]

Red/blue/yellow original sold well made millions of kids happy....

nowadays ruby/sapphire... the pokemon games didnt have the same feel as the the old ones...