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n3croart
December 19th, 2006, 04:53 AM
Skarmory @ Leftovers ** Aunt.Spiker
EV's: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 Spd
Relaxed Nature
- Substitute
- Whirlwind
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Spikes
If I had Drill Peck, it would be hax.
Synchronize
December 19th, 2006, 05:15 AM
Impish Nature
240-252 EVs in HP. doesn't need that much speed. 0-20 EVs do well in that space.
[Phantom Upheaval]
December 19th, 2006, 06:25 AM
Drill Peck + Roar works too, unless you are really afraid of Soundproof.
Rest over Substitute...Sub on Skarm is quite useless, he doesn't have enough speed to use it.
If you don't like Rest, use HP Ground.
shanecdavis
December 19th, 2006, 07:54 AM
Sub on Skarm is a MUST. It protects from Maggie, allowing you to switch out. Skarm doesn't need an attacking move. That is not its strong point.
Skarmory @ Leftovers
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
EVs: 252 HP / 192 Def / 64 Spd
- Rest
- Spikes
- Substitute
- Whirlwind
BTW - Lugialord, don't give it a -Spd nature and then waste EVs maxing its Spd. Counter-productive.
n3croart
December 19th, 2006, 07:59 AM
I put Substitute on Skarmory.
Synchronize
December 19th, 2006, 04:30 PM
I use Taunt and Counter more than Sub. If I use Sub I use a load of SDef so Claydol cant break it, and fairs alot better vs CM Celebi.
n3croart
December 20th, 2006, 07:17 AM
meh, sub always gets blown up.
shanecdavis
December 20th, 2006, 09:10 AM
That is because you aren't using it right. You bring it in against a physical sweeper and then Sub on the obvious switch. That gives you either a free Spikes or a switch out if Maggy shows up.
n3croart
December 21st, 2006, 12:01 AM
That is because you aren't using it right. You bring it in against a physical sweeper and then Sub on the obvious switch. That gives you either a free Spikes or a switch out if Maggy shows up.
I also heard a good thing to do, Sub, Spikes, Roar/Whirlwind and so on.
Synchronize
December 21st, 2006, 12:15 PM
That's basically what shane just mentioned ._.
Piloswine Magnet
December 21st, 2006, 08:01 PM
Sub on Skarm is a MUST. It protects from Maggie, allowing you to switch out. Skarm doesn't need an attacking move. That is not its strong point.
Skarmory @ Leftovers
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
EVs: 252 HP / 192 Def / 64 Spd
- Rest
- Spikes
- Substitute
- Whirlwind
So what does it need to do? Sit there?
Skarmory @ Leftovers
Nature - Impish
Steel Wing
Rest
Spikes
Whirlwind
Never limit a Poke'mon to just cycling between the other team's Poke'mon. You will most likely get melted or zapped out of the sky before any Poke'mon faint.
Alter Ego
December 21st, 2006, 08:07 PM
So what does it need to do? Sit there?
That's what walls are for. Skarm is really meant to spike up the field, take physical hits and shuffle out buffing physical pokes, not sweep through. That's what the other five pokes can do. If you do go offensive, though, Drill Peck/Hidden Power [Flying] > Steel Wing since Steel attacks get such a poor matchup against most pokémon types. :\ Steel Wing certainly won't keep it from getting KOed by electric types; a sub on the switch will. Don't knock Subskarm, it's actually very good at what it does.
Piloswine Magnet
December 21st, 2006, 08:11 PM
Nothing's wrong with SubSkarm, its just SubRestSkarm i cant stand.
Alter Ego
December 21st, 2006, 08:16 PM
Nothing's wrong with SubSkarm, its just SubRestSkarm i cant stand.
To each their own, but that's actually the Skarm build I've found most useful. Going with the assumption that everything needs a damaging move to be good will shut you out from many cool builds like Chaosbreon. Skarm only needs a damaging move if you've got problems with stuff like Hera, anyway. It all depends on the situation, I just happen to prefer a wall that can actually heal itself (Which an attack-oriented subskarm can't do). Skarm without Rest more or less requires Wish support.
Piloswine Magnet
December 22nd, 2006, 01:02 AM
Skarm without Rest more or less requires Wish support.
Can skarm even learn wish?
aragornbird
December 22nd, 2006, 01:56 AM
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Wish support in this case means the Pokemon gets help from Wish from another Pokemon, not that the Pokemon uses Wish on its own.
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Synchronize
December 22nd, 2006, 10:54 AM
Actually, SubRestSkarm isn't too bad, as long as you have something else like Cloyster spiking. Otherwise it really does just sit there walling and not taking out too many things except Heracross, Breloom, and Duggie.