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Angèle
December 24th, 2006, 09:09 PM
do you like this new generation or does it has some , ISSUES that u dont like?

to me its too many legendaries , and some are pointless

~*!*~Queen Boo~*!*~
December 25th, 2006, 12:59 PM
I have a problem with the large amount of pre evolutions, evolutions and the legendaries other than that the game is fine

:t354:~*!*~Queen Boo~*!*~

Hayate
December 25th, 2006, 01:33 PM
I like the game, but as you said before some pokémon are WAY to overpowered and have a bad design also..but that's my opinion

.net
December 25th, 2006, 02:54 PM
Sure there are good new pokes but lots of them are stereotypical.

Mudkip85
December 25th, 2006, 04:20 PM
I have a problem with the large amount of pre evolutions, evolutions and the legendaries other than that the game is fine

:t354:~*!*~Queen Boo~*!*~

I agree, i find that the have over done it especially with the amount of legendaries included in this generation. They rushed evoultions aswell of quite a few pokemon. However im not too worried about the amount of pre-evolution pokemon there are as i think that there all cute.

~Kipper~

.Bastion
December 25th, 2006, 04:43 PM
The gameplay itself looks promising. Especially with the return of the day and night system.

However the pokemon don't look as well off. Some of the evolutions are great and even some originals are awesome (like Lucario) but I mean c'mon what was the evolution of Rhydon for? It doesn't even look remotely cool or good IMO.

I think this generation has a lot of potential but the pokemon aren't giving it the greatest of starts.

Richard Lynch
December 25th, 2006, 06:52 PM
I looked up a bunch of the Steel types in the game (since that'smy favourite type), and noticed that a lot of them are very... beasty. They look almost too mechanical.

Also, there's like a bazillion Legendaries. I still remember *cue flashback, haha* when there were only FOUR Legendaries. Moltres, Zapdos, Articuno, Mewtwo and Mew. Ahh, sweet nostalgia.

Lil-Dill
December 26th, 2006, 12:38 AM
Don't u mean 5 legendaries? Oh well, I think there are too many legendaries n too many evos n prevos!

Richard Lynch
December 26th, 2006, 01:29 AM
Don't u mean 5 legendaries? Oh well, I think there are too many legendaries n too many evos n prevos!

That's what I said! FIVE. LOL, whoops.

I can take Integrals in my head, but don't ask me to do basic arithmetic.

yasu-trainer
December 26th, 2006, 02:16 AM
My issues are no different from anyone elses: too many legendaries and evolutions. Had they focused more on fresh Pokemon Lucario and Sheimi, they would have been better off. Wait... I think Sheimi is a legendary... whoops. Oh well. You guys get the idea, right?
But don't get me wrong. Some of these Pokemon are really awesome, and the games look really good. And the new type combos and attacks will give me a good challenge when I make new battle strategies.

Red1530
December 26th, 2006, 03:42 AM
My main issue of this generation is the lack of ability to trade back to third generation games.

Kenji~
December 26th, 2006, 06:01 AM
Eh, It was better than the third by far, imo. They could have thrown in a few more [pre]evolutions, I was a bit disappointed by the lack of Shuckle & Dunsparce evolutions.

Another 'issue' about it I don't particularly like is all the people complaining about having 'too many evos & preevos', although that's not really caused by the generation itslef :\

I like this generation.

what?
December 26th, 2006, 06:11 AM
i think everyone in hell is gonna use lucario x_x
that's my only complaint

Master Charizard
December 26th, 2006, 06:24 PM
I think as each generation passes, all the pokemon are starting to look...weirder...and they all seem to be fluffly little monsters that turn into ugly beasts. I mean I just don't think the magic is there anymore like in the first generation, I don't really know how to explain it, oh, and too many legendaries!!!

Superiore
December 26th, 2006, 06:30 PM
Some poke look like kid's drawings.
most evos of old pokemon look crap, ruining the old pokes.
too many pre evos and evos of old pokes.
too many legendaries. (and those 3 little legendary things all look the same)

they aren't too good and certainly don't compare to old pokes.

I believe this is the last generation.
although we could of done without this one too.

Master Charizard
December 26th, 2006, 06:43 PM
Yeah, I think this generation has ruined it, sadly.

Superiore
December 26th, 2006, 07:08 PM
The 6/7 year olds who buy the games and some become die-hard fans.
well because of no thought we're not going to secure any of them as poke fans.
It's just the old fans now.

Master Charizard
December 26th, 2006, 07:17 PM
The 6/7 year olds who buy the games and some become die-hard fans.
well because of no thought we're not going to secure any of them as poke fans.
It's just the old fans now.

I totally agree with that statement. I got hooked when I saw characters like Charmander and Pikachu, they were so original! If I looked at any from the fourth generation...well, I mean an original little dragon with a cute flamey tail or some weird looking fire monkey?

J
December 27th, 2006, 11:39 AM
Well, I think there're too many Legendaries and all, and Im disappointed by the fact that the games can't trade back to the RSEFRLG games. But, otherwise, I can't think of anymore faults :O

NekroBoi
December 28th, 2006, 01:14 AM
I totally agree with that statement. I got hooked when I saw characters like Charmander and Pikachu, they were so original! If I looked at any from the fourth generation...well, I mean an original little dragon with a cute flamey tail or some weird looking fire monkey?

yeah, pokemon is probably like abba (bad comparision?) the old fans are there forever, but the new ones who loove the tree shelled grass dude or the fire monkey, or the cybernetic Penguin are just die-hard fans coz they got no friends!!!
And i liked pokemon coz i liked CHARIZARD!!!!! and i only watched it at the start coz he wud neva listen to ash *heheh*

i think u cant trade back iz because it would not be compatible with RsEfrLG; u see, i think they release the pokemon or delete it in ur rSeFRlg game and just input a pokemon exactly the same into sum ParK!

ProtrainerEon
December 28th, 2006, 04:28 AM
They were in desperate need of new creatures to fascinate kids so they whipped up a batch of strange Pokemon to make more money. Not that it was a good batch! Some are uglicious, others are just plain wrong, like the black cat that looks like its bad luck curse was reflected back at it's deformed body! Or it's just a survivor of road-kill. SEVERAL road-kills.

Anyway, that's all I'm sayin'! The truth sucks just like the cat. The cream puff pink key-chain toy thing is a cute Pokemon, though. Still eerily small and happy! XD

Mudkip85
December 28th, 2006, 01:30 PM
Some poke look like kid's drawings.

Are you referring to the sprites used in the games? If so i agree with you totally. I feel that they just simply rushed thinking about the new pokemon they were going to use and it gives the games a big let down. I especially find Jibacoil the evolution of Magneton a huge failure as it just looks reall scrapy and messy.

~Kipper~

ProtrainerEon
December 28th, 2006, 03:50 PM
They should let fans send in Pokemon suggestions and drawings. They know what appeals to their OWN crowd best. I know I am about to get yelled at for even thinking this. If they can't NOT make crappy or just pointless Pokemon, let all us loyal fans push them in the right direction.

When I was little I drew a pretty red fox with lots of tails, another evolution option for Vulpix, but now I doubt it should really exist. I think Eevee having a steel type evolution would've been a nice addition to the D/P collection.

Pacman
December 28th, 2006, 05:38 PM
I think this Gen, maybe the best. Sinnoh, is one of the best Regions, IMO. Pulse, some of the new Pokemon, look cool.

Minku.
December 30th, 2006, 03:15 AM
I hate some of the new Pokemon, like that bee one...
what kind of honeycomb flies around? I swear Nintendo are having a brain fart...
some of the pokemon are also just plain ridicuolous.... I mean, some look okay, but the new ones are just.... weird.

Superiore
December 31st, 2006, 05:42 PM
I hate some of the new Pokemon, like that bee one...
what kind of honeycomb flies around? I swear Nintendo are having a brain fart...
some of the pokemon are also just plain ridicuolous.... I mean, some look okay, but the new ones are just.... weird.

IMO,

about 3 look Great
about 15 look okay
and the rest are terrible.

Samson
January 1st, 2007, 11:26 AM
the honeybee chain is one that i'm actually looking forward to. like miltank, beequeen's ability is not only interactive, but also helpful in battle.

Superiore
January 1st, 2007, 01:40 PM
I think the Beequeen idea is okay but Mitsuhoney is weird.

Dsaerno
January 1st, 2007, 09:37 PM
There are two different kinds of good Pokemon - the cute/interesting small ones (that get memorable anime episodes about them) and the awesome, put-it-in-my-team huge ones (any metagame Pokemon). Very rarely do you get a popular one (like Pikachu, Charizard, or Lucario) that is also a good battler. The sad fact is that, in general, the new gen. 4 Pokemon are weak in these respects.

Personally, I'm just excited that there are new Pokemon. Some stink on ice, and some rock out loud (pardon my bluntness). We all have to live with it. Might as well be optimistic. Maybe generation 5 will be as good as generation 1? Who knows?

MegaFuz
January 1st, 2007, 09:48 PM
Personally, I think the 4th generation is crap. With the exception of the starters, which I think are the most creative and coolest looking since R/B/Y, it's really disappointing to me. The thing that really bugs me, and I know I'm not alone, is the number of legendaries. Seriously...there are like 10 too many. Sheimi?! It is the single most pointless legendary of any generation. And of the other legendaries...most of them don't even look like Pokemon. And yes...that includes Diaruga and Parukia. They just don't fit...

Dark Heaven
January 4th, 2007, 12:24 AM
I like this gen, but I didn't like it as much as GSC.

Because I'm getting tired of the same old thing, I guess.

Some stuff shouldn't have been made at all...I was disappointed that Dusclops got evo, and Banette didn't.

Rhydon was already strong enough, but nooooo, they had to give him another evo, making him look like a walking bucket. ~~

I like Gablias though, one of the best dragon ever.

Reg teh Yoshi
January 4th, 2007, 01:23 AM
Sheimi?! It is the single most pointless legendary of any generation.

*Le gasp* DON'T SAY DAT! Sheimi isn't the best, but it isn't the most pointless neither. Sure, it can only learn Grass and Normal attacks along with Rest and Psychic, but it's still cute.

I think the 4th Generation is cool, I think all 107 Pokemon are cool, especially Sheimi, Aruseus, and POCHAMA!, But nothing beats 1st gen.

xlnightmare
January 4th, 2007, 09:26 AM
Personally, I like them. I think new pokemon just takes new thought and getting used to. I've already started planning the ones I want to capture ^_^ I'm actually excited about the new pokemon. But when 3rd gen came out, I hated them at first...but it tooks some time to get used to.

Superiore
January 4th, 2007, 01:23 PM
Personally, I think the 4th generation is crap. With the exception of the starters, which I think are the most creative and coolest looking since R/B/Y, it's really disappointing to me. The thing that really bugs me, and I know I'm not alone, is the number of legendaries. Seriously...there are like 10 too many. Sheimi?! It is the single most pointless legendary of any generation. And of the other legendaries...most of them don't even look like Pokemon. And yes...that includes Diaruga and Parukia. They just don't fit...

the starters are the worst set yet.
the fire starter is ok but its evos look crap.
the whole grass set looks crap.
but the water starter and evos are fine.

shanecdavis
January 4th, 2007, 11:12 PM
What is very disappointing to me isn't the cuteness of the Pokes or the excessive Legendaries. It is that the game runs along the exact same concept as the first three. Fire/Water/Grass starters are lame. Crappy Bug Pokes that evolve fully at Lv10 and then suck are lame. Fighting gym leaders who have a shared weakness in their teams is lame. Fighting supposedly the best trainers in the region, called the Elite Four, when there are five, who have the same faulty logic as gym leaders is extremely lame. Can anyone that programs at Game Freak say "difficulty levels" or "switching out"? I am not sure that I want to shell out the bones for a DS, just to get Emerald Revisited.

NekroBoi
January 4th, 2007, 11:20 PM
I'm begenning to like this generation... but in Netbattle, imagine the List of Ubers after d/p is officially realeased in america!!! probably like another 11 or sunfing

Superiore
January 5th, 2007, 01:54 PM
What is very disappointing to me isn't the cuteness of the Pokes or the excessive Legendaries. It is that the game runs along the exact same concept as the first three. Fire/Water/Grass starters are lame. Crappy Bug Pokes that evolve fully at Lv10 and then suck are lame. Fighting gym leaders who have a shared weakness in their teams is lame. Fighting supposedly the best trainers in the region, called the Elite Four, when there are five, who have the same faulty logic as gym leaders is extremely lame. Can anyone that programs at Game Freak say "difficulty levels" or "switching out"? I am not sure that I want to shell out the bones for a DS, just to get Emerald Revisited.

Yeah thats my problem too.
I really have my doubts for this game but i want to get to have a game for each region.
but I don't only have to buy the game I would have to buy a DS too.

xlnightmare
January 5th, 2007, 06:17 PM
Yeah thats my problem too.
I really have my doubts for this game but i want to get to have a game for each region.
but I don't only have to buy the game I would have to buy a DS too.


You mine as well just get the new DS Lite. Get a used one for like 130 bucks or a new one for twenty more LAWLS.

Seriously, though whether you have doubts or not or just might not get diamond and pearl, get a ds. For the good of nintendo! I don't know where I'd be without my onyx black ds lite <3 I like it cause it's dual compatiability. Certainly worth the money. :D

AC drain
January 5th, 2007, 06:49 PM
The reason I like PD more is because the physical attack change. It makes a lot of pokemon way better, like sharpedo, even though it hinders pokemon like sceptile. Still, I really do hate that mud shot is special now. Doesn't really make sense.

Richard Lynch
January 5th, 2007, 07:51 PM
What is very disappointing to me isn't the cuteness of the Pokes or the excessive Legendaries. It is that the game runs along the exact same concept as the first three. Fire/Water/Grass starters are lame. Crappy Bug Pokes that evolve fully at Lv10 and then suck are lame. Fighting gym leaders who have a shared weakness in their teams is lame. Fighting supposedly the best trainers in the region, called the Elite Four, when there are five, who have the same faulty logic as gym leaders is extremely lame. Can anyone that programs at Game Freak say "difficulty levels" or "switching out"? I am not sure that I want to shell out the bones for a DS, just to get Emerald Revisited.

I agree on most counts. The gym leaders almost have to stay single type, because that's the trademark of a gym leader - it's to test you with that type, and see if you can surpass it. And about 10/10 of the time, you can. The Elite 4 and the Champion I agree should be a lot more tough. Nintendo did the best job in RBY with having your Rival as the final battle, with his surprisingly tough multi-type team. Wallace is an exception, because water pokemon now are so very versatile.

And don't forget that a lot of the people who play these games are kids, and seeing how most of the older people here (including myself to some degree) have trouble building a team that can take on anyone and everything, it's almost necessary to have a limit on how difficult they make it.

But hey, maybe the AI will be better now. If they can program a computer to take on a Russian Grandmaster of Chess, they can sure as hell make one to take on a Pokemon Grandmaster.

Bobby
January 5th, 2007, 08:36 PM
I have a few problems with the generation. It seems like he didn't put much thought into it and just made whatever he could, hinting at why there are so many second stagers, pre-evos, and legends. It's not a bad set, just the worst put together set.

Ratiasu-kun
January 5th, 2007, 08:50 PM
But hey, maybe the AI will be better now. If they can program a computer to take on a Russian Grandmaster of Chess, they can sure as hell make one to take on a Pokemon Grandmaster.

But they dont because most of the kids who play this game are small children -.- Like shanecdavis and others said, they desperately need a difficulty setting, above all else!!!

As for all the evos/pre-evos, I dont know why you guys are complaining, I remember somewhere that they said that the primary focus of the 4th generation was evolutions for earlier pokémon!!! Of course there are a whole lot!!! My only peeve is that they did seem to either rush through the design phase way too quickly, or choose the wrong pokémon to add evolutionary lines to.

Samson
January 5th, 2007, 10:11 PM
But hey, maybe the AI will be better now. If they can program a computer to take on a Russian Grandmaster of Chess, they can sure as hell make one to take on a Pokemon Grandmaster.

sure they can, and in response to latios's comment, they can set difficulty levels as well.

but they won't. they're lazy and money-driven.

Cornicapus
January 22nd, 2007, 08:13 AM
I am sure that there are some evil desingers in Nintendo and gamefreak sitting in a dark room and designing the PEREFECT pokemon team and when they finish they give off an evil laugh. but i think they should add the perfect team in and see if anyone could beat them. but they are aware kids might throw their ds out the window because they keep getting OwNeD but an AI.

On topic i like the new Generation every bit except for gregguru i think one of the nintendo desinger's 2 year old Son/Daughter showed it to them and he decided to put it in he game.

AND i don't like the Male trainers sprite (looks like a french guy... no offence pplz of france)

acrof
January 22nd, 2007, 01:27 PM
AND i don't like the Male trainers sprite (looks like a french guy... no offence pplz of france) Me neither.

I really think they are doing it in a hurry to release 2,3 ,4 games in a year to us, that´s why the 5th generation is so .... patetic....

I would wait 2 or more years to see a good game, using everything a DS/Wii can offer,
with a good set of pokemons, trainers, animations, story line, features, etc .....................

coachwhipneoship
January 22nd, 2007, 04:49 PM
Well, after looking at all of the new pokemon on Bulbapedia, I’m pretty excited about the new generation. There are more potential favorites for me than I thought there’d be.

The ones I really think I’m going to LOVE are:

Crecelia – So pretty! Shiny and colorful psychic birdie, with a nice shape. Actually there are a lot of birds this time around, but this one’s my favorite.

Glacia – Because, I love all the Eeveelutions and all such four-leggers, and this one looks really cool.

Karanakushi – OMG! Sea slugs!!! I always liked sea slugs (nudibranchs) because in real life, they’re awesome. They don’t sound beautiful or interesting but they ARE. And they made pokemon out of ‘em, hoorah!! I especially like the blue guy. :3

And of course, the evolved form Toritodon; but I like the blue Karanakushi best. I don’t imagine they’re the most powerful or anything, but I don’t go by that…XD

Other than that, there’s…

Leafia – of course.
Cherinbo – It looks like cherries, how kawaii.
Kolink/Luxio/Rentorer – They’re lions, but my first thought was ‘blue mouse things with stars on their tails!’ Mouse, lion? Could I be more off? It’s the ears. Anyway, they’re interesting.
Mimilop – A bunny! Looks cute.
Mitsuhoney – A flying honeycomb! Maybe ridiculous, but the thing is mondo cute.
Mantyke – Another favorite aquatic creature of mine is the ray. I love Mantine, and even though this is just a baby version…it’s adorable.
Sheimi – Also cute looking.
Keikouo/Neorant – Fishies with butterfly wing-shaped fins! =D I like a lot, particularly Keikouo. Apparently it’s based on the neon tetra. Cool, I have about 6 of them!
Muskippa – Fly traps of any sort are neato.
And I like the expression on Nyarmar’s face.

Now there are some that I was especially curious about…
PorygonZ. The pic is really small, but from what I see, I like the first two (especially Porygon2) much better.
Lisyan – If it’s supposed to be some kind of yellow smiley face, I think that’s cute.
Domirror – Intriguing…
Hipopotas – Omg. Possibly the freakiest looking one. That huge snout and those eyes don’t seem to go together. Silly.
Mojumbo - Nice to see that old Frykin known as Tangela again! Electabuzz and Magmar too.


Finally, I noted Minomutchi/Minomadam. They’re very, very weird. The Steel form covered in building insulation especially…I thought it was cotton candy. O__o I like it though.

Mystic Waters
January 22nd, 2007, 06:01 PM
I really dont have a problem with the 4th gen pokes, i mean, the horrid design of some of the pokes and of course the legendaries , are just minor hinderances, to me its all about the battle, if the pokemon is ugly oh well lol, as long as it can attack im happy :laugh:

Ichaste Pekoni
January 23rd, 2007, 12:52 AM
Me neither.

I really think they are doing it in a hurry to release 2,3 ,4 games in a year to us, that´s why the 5th generation is so .... patetic....

I would wait 2 or more years to see a good game, using everything a DS/Wii can offer,
with a good set of pokemons, trainers, animations, story line, features, etc .....................

...You mean 4th generation. And...it's SIX games (Diamond, Pearl, Ranger, Battle Revolution, Blue Rescue Team, and Red Rescue Team).

jmb_jolteon
January 23rd, 2007, 03:19 AM
i rekon gablias and all its prevos are pointless i mean look at sharpedo it even has a star on its head like its just been changed to look different but it really the same i reckon they should of made it an evo of sharpedo

Angèle
January 25th, 2007, 03:25 AM
Don't u mean 5 legendaries? Oh well, I think there are too many legendaries n too many evos n prevos!

actually there are 15 legends yea thats right 15!!!!:shocked: :classic:

Vampire://Krimm
January 25th, 2007, 11:29 AM
People, the reason why so many Pokemon got powerful evolutions, and why the Pokemon themselves are powerful is because of the new strategy system that Nintendo put into it. Therfor making them have to be strong

Rubberbandman
January 25th, 2007, 06:06 PM
The Uber metagame has, already been pretty small, now that they added to it people think the world is going to end (except Darkrai can actually do it, it really IS that Evil.)

Some pokes really needed evos but instead got pre-evos, like Chimecho and Sudowoodo, who are at the bottom of the metagame. Flareon needed an evo too, seeing it has the worst luck when being created .-.

some pokemon are just taking the jobs of other pokes, seeing sheimi will probably be OU, it will take Celebi's job as a celeric, but still cant do it as well.

The 4th gen pokes just look weird to me, they could have done a better job making the sprites <_<

Samson
January 25th, 2007, 06:34 PM
Flareon needed an evo too, seeing it has the worst luck when being created .-.


worst suggestion ever. flareon doesn't need an evo... they should've rather taught the dang thing Flare Drive for this generation, and yet they didn't.

Goku Goku
January 25th, 2007, 10:18 PM
I like the new generation, but I expected more Pokemon for this generation (at least up to 500 or 501). Well, some of the designs of the evos, pre-evos and some new Pokes could use some work on it, and as everyone says (and I agree along), there shouldn't be that much legendaries. :\ Other, than that, everything else is cool. :)

Death Rogers
January 25th, 2007, 10:27 PM
Well I don't like some of the new Pokemon. I think they might have been desperate so they came up with whatever came to mind. Like Fuwaraido. Satoshi Tajiri was probably sitting in his room thinking about new Pokemon and looked out the window for ideas and saw a hot air balloon. "Hey I could make a Pokemon out of this!"

I also hate Mirakuge. It doesn't look like a Pokemon at all. It looks like something you'd see on a fortune teller's desk.

Samson
January 25th, 2007, 11:20 PM
hey that ghost/flying thing is a neat poke... but i agree with you on the mirror poke. it's definitely a poke designed for an upcoming plot in the anime... but then they had to give it decent stats as well. it's bad enough that it has no type weakness.

Death Rogers
January 25th, 2007, 11:48 PM
Yeah. I may not like the hot air balloon one but the crystal ball one is a horrible idea for a Pokemon. I hate all of the ones like that. I hate all that are supposed to be inanimate objects.

Cowrie
January 26th, 2007, 07:12 AM
Needed either fewer pre/evos, or more original pokemon.

But even with that, this set of pokemon is actually the set I've liked the best since the 2nd gen (which is my favorite). They might have overdone it with all the pre/evos - especially the pre-evos, which can go disappear for all I care - but I still thought they had some pretty awesome ideas this time around.

Heh, the ghost balloons were actually the first pokemon based off inanimate objects that I actually liked...such simple ideas, and yet they work so well.

BlackLabel-Atreyu
January 26th, 2007, 07:21 AM
I agree with Cowrie(again, haha)
This generation has the greatest ideas I think, but my favorite before was Hoen.
Oh, but I do think that they shouldn't have made an Ice Eevee evo with there being water already, but I'm stoked about there being a grass one :D
I can't wait to see an eevee dragon! That'd be sick man!
And a ghost one, haha, I seem to like Eevee alot, huh?

A Psychic Espeon
January 26th, 2007, 09:07 AM
Yes, I like eevee too, I like the idea of both the ice and grass ones, they look cool. I reckon the lickitung evo is....crapped up, and the nosepass one, it does look like some crappy random drawing. And the magneton evo..what the hell is up with it? I think the Legendaries are all right but as you guys have said, there is way too many.

peirau
January 26th, 2007, 09:39 PM
I like it very much its just nice:)

Cornicapus
January 26th, 2007, 11:44 PM
I am really dissapointed with the magneton Evo they could have gone alot better with 5 magnetons put together. And if i ever get a magneton in D/p i don't wanna evolve it

Death Rogers
January 27th, 2007, 01:00 AM
Yeah the Nosepass evolution looks like something you'd see driving up and down the streets at 5 AM.

Ratiasu-kun
January 27th, 2007, 01:05 AM
Its probably just the Rhydon, Tangela, Nosepass, Dusclops, and Magmar evos that they really couldve done without. Especially the Dusclops and Nosepass ones. They were just created last generation! They couldve waited a bit to collect their thoughts on pokémon that couldve actually needed an evolution... *COUGHskarmoryCOUGH*

Rubberbandman
January 27th, 2007, 01:14 AM
Needed either fewer pre/evos, or more original pokemon.



They gave basicly all other pokemon an evolution BUT chimecho and sudowoodo, which just doesnt work for me. I mean, come on chimecho and sudowoodo deserve evos instead of pre-evos, seeing as they dont do much of anything either but sit there in the back of people's minds, but instead they thought, "Hey! Lets give these losers pre-evos, its not like anyone is going to use them anyway!"

Angèle
January 27th, 2007, 09:00 PM
They gave basicly all other pokemon an evolution BUT chimecho and sudowoodo, which just doesnt work for me. I mean, come on chimecho and sudowoodo deserve evos instead of pre-evos, seeing as they dont do much of anything either but sit there in the back of people's minds, but instead they thought, "Hey! Lets give these losers pre-evos, its not like anyone is going to use them anyway!"

yes i agree with you alot
also togetics evo. was pointless or atleast they could have made it better.
also cute pochama should have better evo.s than that!!(enperto is okay i guess)

Samson
January 27th, 2007, 09:45 PM
togetic's evo, togekiss, is freaking awesome. there's finally going to be a strong and worthy normal/flying type in the game. i'm definitely having a team with a togekiss as a starter.

Angèle
January 28th, 2007, 02:07 AM
togetic's evo, togekiss, is freaking awesome. there's finally going to be a strong and worthy normal/flying type in the game. i'm definitely having a team with a togekiss as a starter.

i guess its cool i just wish that it better artwork (dont get me wrong its cute but ,i think if they would have took their time it would be better)

Matt11
January 28th, 2007, 12:46 PM
I think they should have given kanghaskan a pre-evo, its just so hard to catch without one...

Samson
January 28th, 2007, 07:36 PM
I think they should have given kanghaskan a pre-evo, its just so hard to catch without one...

great suggestion. it'd be so easy too! just make its baby a separate poke with HIGH defenses (is born with protective tissue), and it would obv evolve by friendship. i say high defenses because that would explain why the substitute doll looks like it... and i agree that kangaskhan is WAY too hard to catch. i spent around 3 total hours waiting around for that thing, and though it'd come every 3 minutes, it's almost impossible to catch it with ANY strategy and those safari balls.

Ichaste Pekoni
January 28th, 2007, 10:46 PM
great suggestion. it'd be so easy too! just make its baby a separate poke with HIGH defenses (is born with protective tissue), and it would obv evolve by friendship. i say high defenses because that would explain why the substitute doll looks like it... and i agree that kangaskhan is WAY too hard to catch. i spent around 3 total hours waiting around for that thing, and though it'd come every 3 minutes, it's almost impossible to catch it with ANY strategy and those safari balls.

Makes me sad that people complain like this when XD's just sitting out there with a full compliment of the hard-to-find Safari Pokemon...

But a Kangaskhan prevo would be too obvious...

Samson
January 29th, 2007, 07:31 AM
umm... well it wasn't really a complaint, but even so, you don't think it's a little crazy to buy a whole Gamecube and pokemon game set just to get some pokemon you wouldn't otherwise be able to catch? that's borderlining insane AND sad.

and obvious? you mean like a grass evolution for eevee... or a raven as an evo for murkrow? so i suppose when it comes to pokemon, people just want to be surprised with unnecessary evos like Elekible or Magnemite's evo? a kangaskhan pre-evo might be obvious but it at least is PRACTICLE.

Ichaste Pekoni
January 29th, 2007, 10:45 PM
umm... well it wasn't really a complaint, but even so, you don't think it's a little crazy to buy a whole Gamecube and pokemon game set just to get some pokemon you wouldn't otherwise be able to catch? that's borderlining insane AND sad.

and obvious? you mean like a grass evolution for eevee... or a raven as an evo for murkrow? so i suppose when it comes to pokemon, people just want to be surprised with unnecessary evos like Elekible or Magnemite's evo? a kangaskhan pre-evo might be obvious but it at least is PRACTICLE.

Gamecube? Yeah, overkill, but there are other games to get for it. Getting a game for it when you already have the Gamecube, though, not so much, depending on how much trouble you're having (and since I think it's been added to Player's Choice, wouldn't put you in the hole that much either).

Apparently sarcasm has been lost...

Blaziken626
January 30th, 2007, 03:39 AM
I think as each generation passes, all the pokemon are starting to look...weirder...and they all seem to be fluffly little monsters that turn into ugly beasts. I mean I just don't think the magic is there anymore like in the first generation, I don't really know how to explain it, oh, and too many legendaries!!!

I totally agree with you! I actually really like these new Pokemon, but the old ones were simpler. The used to have these simple, yet cool and sometimes cute, Pokemon, and now they're starting to revamp them too much. Ugh, and they're beastier and sometimes uglier. But I'm not complaining with the amount of Legendaries and evos/pre-evos. (Although I really don't see the point in creating an evo of a big, strong Pokemon like Rhydon.) It's kind of mixed feelings. I like this generation, but it has its problems.

Angèle
February 4th, 2007, 07:00 PM
Makes me sad that people complain like this when XD's just sitting out there with a full compliment of the hard-to-find Safari Pokemon...

But a Kangaskhan prevo would be too obvious...

we are just sayin what we would like to see , we arent complaining we appreciate that there is a d/p and some new pokemon.. cause if you look around all the shows that came out at the same time as pokemon are gone ,and there coming up with alot of other stupid shows .... but yea we arent complaining we are just stating what we think

anyway a kangskhan pre evo,hmmmmmm if it looked anything like the baby thingy in its pouch
it kinda look like a purple sandshrew with horns lol

♥~*Abby*~♥
February 4th, 2007, 10:43 PM
its very well... CONFUSING 2 say the least. how am i supposed 2 remember how all those pokemon evolve... its so... well... COMPLEX...

Ichaste Pekoni
February 5th, 2007, 12:14 AM
we are just sayin what we would like to see , we arent complaining we appreciate that there is a d/p and some new pokemon.. cause if you look around all the shows that came out at the same time as pokemon are gone ,and there coming up with alot of other stupid shows .... but yea we arent complaining we are just stating what we think

anyway a kangskhan pre evo,hmmmmmm if it looked anything like the baby thingy in its pouch
it kinda look like a purple sandshrew with horns lol

I was referring to Samson's complaint about how hard Kanghaskhan were to catch in the Safari Zone.

And its prevo would look like Substitute (it does already).

Angèle
February 5th, 2007, 12:45 AM
I was referring to Samson's complaint about how hard Kanghaskhan were to catch in the Safari Zone.

And its prevo would look like Substitute (it does already).

:embarrass o sorry i thought u where talkin about the whole thread sry im so sorry :nervous:

Jim
February 12th, 2007, 06:24 PM
Back on topic... (I'm the good one :D lol)

For all we know this could be the Last Gen but there could be about 10 Gens...
If they make a 5th Gen they Should have about 6 Legendaries. The Traditional Trio Group (I.e The 3 Birds 3 Dogs 3 Regis ect.) Two main ones on the Boxart (Like Groudon and Kyogre) and one that is like the leader of the Boxart Legendaries (E.g Rayquaza) and one Secret Legendary. (Like Mew, Celebi, Jirachi, Deoxys, Darkai, Shemi, Aresues) But the Secret one should be Small, Yet powerful like Mew, Celebi and Jirachi But have great abilities like Areseus and should Change appearence Like Deoxys.

The 5th Gen Should be totally original. (Not the Usual Grass, Fire, Water Triangle) There should be only One or Two Prevo-Evos (One that evolves too Kangaskahn/Tauros depending on Gender. A Saybleye Evo and a Shuckle Evo. Then a Complete new Generation With more Types because if there was more types there would be more original PKMN.

I mean the 4th Gen is mostly Evo/Preovs and the small amount of new ones (One of which is a Hot-Air Balloon) arn't all that good and all the Gazillion legendaries are/look Crap.

Virtual Headache
February 12th, 2007, 07:04 PM
First I wasn't too impressed of the new Pokémon but ever since I've started playing the game I don't think they are that bad.
Many of them look rather nice.
Also the new move categories, the Pokétore as well as other new features in the game make it look more interesting for me.

I already enjoy Diamond more than I enjoyed Fire Red or Sapphire.

I agree about the evos of old Pokémon though, there are far too many.

Angèle
February 13th, 2007, 12:02 AM
Back on topic... (I'm the good one :D lol)

For all we know this could be the Last Gen but there could be about 10 Gens...
If they make a 5th Gen they Should have about 6 Legendaries. The Traditional Trio Group (I.e The 3 Birds 3 Dogs 3 Regis ect.) Two main ones on the Boxart (Like Groudon and Kyogre) and one that is like the leader of the Boxart Legendaries (E.g Rayquaza) and one Secret Legendary. (Like Mew, Celebi, Jirachi, Deoxys, Darkai, Shemi, Aresues) But the Secret one should be Small, Yet powerful like Mew, Celebi and Jirachi But have great abilities like Areseus and should Change appearence Like Deoxys.

The 5th Gen Should be totally original. (Not the Usual Grass, Fire, Water Triangle) There should be only One or Two Prevo-Evos (One that evolves too Kangaskahn/Tauros depending on Gender.. A Saybleye Evo and a Shuckle Evo. Then a Complete new Generation With more Types because if there was more types there would be more original PKMN.

I mean the 4th Gen is mostly Evo/Preovs and the small amount of new ones (One of which is a Hot-Air Balloon) arn't all that good and all the Gazillion legendaries are/look Crap.


um for the tauros pre evo. instead of kangus kan a miltank /tauros pre evo. would be gud lol:) (srry for spelling mistakes

Samson
February 13th, 2007, 05:19 AM
i'll say it again, do not hate on the hot air balloon. ima definitely get me one of those suckers.

Chibi Pika
February 13th, 2007, 02:07 PM
Yeah, too many Legendaries, for one...Heatran is pointless (Groudon, anyone?), Crescelia is just another wanderer, Darkry...I'll wait and see, Phione = no, and we really didn't need Regigigas. I like Arseus.

I like the large amount of Pre-evos and evos. =/ It connects everything and ties up loose ends.

I just don't like the large amount of...inanimate object Pokemon. (NOT, Fuwaraido--they did a good job there.)

While some Pokemon still fit the general appearance, there are others that I feel push it with the the zany, complex look. It's the ones that have balance that succeed the most.

Team Galaxy needs a non-nerdy uniform. xP

And, uh, yeah...that's it.

~Chibi~

Rainfall
March 5th, 2007, 05:25 AM
Honestly, I'm excited about the game, but face it, most of the new Pkmn just suck. I don't think that these games will go on much longer, because they're aren't very many new Pkmn they CAN invent. There are a few, yes, but usually every generation has about 150 Pkmn, and I don't see how they can keep this up much longer. They're might be other games, yes, but I doubt we'll be seeing too many new Pokemon.

Hippo
March 5th, 2007, 09:31 PM
Ugh... where to start.
Way too many legendaries. You could make an entire team out of D/P legendaries and not overlap on types. I'm just sick of them. Theres only 107 new guys and about 10 are legendary.
Eevee evolutions. 3 Evos was great. A stone evolved them, PkMn Yellow used them (Rival). Then came S/G/C, two more, both a pain to get. Now an additional two? No. 3 was good. 5 a little worse. 7 is horrid. I know people like them, but enough is enough. There should not be 7 pokes that can evolve from one.
Pre-Evolutions. They're dumb. Worse stats, no one uses them, they evolve with friendship that messes up move pools, and they're just pathetic. Yeah, Sodotreeman needed an evo, Chimeco too, because that guy was too "What the hell a chime?" and needed something.
We don't need Bonsly or MimeJr. MIME SR PLZZ@@@@ Nah, we don't need them.
NOSEPASS EVO. This guy gets his own bullet. Nosepass was so pathetic and looked so much like crap, this guy makes me want to cry.

Theres more, but i can't be bothered to list them all...

dinwrest
March 5th, 2007, 10:58 PM
I personally like this generation only problem is : TOO MANY OF THE LEGENDARIES ARE EVENT ONLY. I'm Canadian . I have NO access to these events WHATSOEVER . However I do have an Eon ticket somewhere in my attic...

Anyways here's a list of the only evos/pre-evos I like :

-Manmuu
-MegaYanma
-Jibacoil
-Electivire
-Buburn
-Yonowaaru
-Glion

I honestly HATE pre-evolutions. Why? They're a stupid idea . Why didn't we see them in previous generations? "Because you need the incenses!" you may say . IF I HAD A WIFE AND WE HAD A BABY AND USED INCENSE WOULD I GET A DEFORMED BABY?! Possibly...but thats not the point and I'd personally not like to test this.

The eevee stuff. Well I only like Vaporeon and Umbreon (flareon is weird looking , jolteon's face is a weird shape and espeon scares me) . Glacia is too plain and leafia's colour scheme is strange looking.

That's about it. Sorry to any eevee fans I may have offended (all three million of you.).

Shiney
March 5th, 2007, 10:59 PM
I like the premise of the overall games, but I have to admit, there are a few problems with what I'e seen so far.

The prevolutions: Don't get me wrong, I like the previous forms, and I'm all for making cute pokemon, but it seems like none of them are actually effective.

Pokemon design: I'm fine with the legendaries in terms of number, and this problem extends to non legendary pokemon as well. But it's most prevalent in the legendaries. I think legendaries should be, well, legendary. Not a rip off of a sci-fi movie while on acid.

Overall, from the looks of them, I'll be sticking with MOSTLY old world pokemon.

Prince Roserade
March 5th, 2007, 11:46 PM
I like most of the new Pokémon. There's only a few creepos I dislike, but then, it was the same with RSE.

Legendaries and ubers don't bother me - I started playing Pokémon with Ruby and Sapphire, so I'm used to having a lot of them (though I only catch 'em then leave 'em sitting around).

And Sheimi and Kureseria are really cool, so there's that. The others are hideous but whatever.

I have mixed feelings about so many evos and pre-evos. For example, Roselia and Yanma getting an evolution is great, but Magmar and Rhydon getting one was unnecessary. However, most of them are good, powerful Pokémon (like Jibacoil and Mojanbo), even if they don't look too good.

Gameplay-wise, Diamond and Pearl look like they'll be success. Night and day is back, there's a lot of original places, the new champ is female, and so on.

Overall, I'm pleased with this generation. A lot of people aren't, but think of it this way: more Pokémon means more variety. And not every DP Poke is from the 4th gen, so people that like older Pokes better will be able to use them, as a lot of old Pokes have improved greatly.

Toxicity
March 11th, 2007, 09:25 AM
An Issue i have on the game is that it looks like they rushed some of there Pokemon, like Mikaruge, i'd actually think it would be a fake pokemon. But other than that, the game looks good.

¿TB Pro™
March 11th, 2007, 09:58 AM
I don't like pre evos maybe if they were the origonals and the old ones were new to this gen than maybe I would like them but not now.I like some of the evos but some like yanma don't need an evo they just plain suck(sorry to all megayanma and yanma fans)I mean i bet Megayanma will be better but in my eyes it will still be a big pile of weak bug.I like Electivire,Jibacoil and Glion(sp?) but the evo of magmar looks like crap I mean look at its arms they look like Electabuzzes and they are the best part of it!Electivire,Jibacoil,and Glion(sp?) all look great I think.I have to say I absolutley hate the evo of tangela!Just like Yanma it sucked to begin with now they mand a retarted looking form of it.I also like Togekiss the design could be a little better but I still like it.I hate the way that the evo of likcitung it looks bloated and just plain retarted!I can't say much about the evo of Piloswine it could go either way I don't have enough info on it to make a descision.I hate Bippa's american name I mean seriusly.well that is all I have to say on that matter.

Woofer
March 14th, 2007, 03:14 AM
I mean the 4th Gen is mostly Evo/Preovs and the small amount of new ones (One of which is a Hot-Air Balloon) arn't all that good and all the Gazillion legendaries are/look Crap.
That's exactly what I was going to say..

Jim
March 14th, 2007, 06:07 PM
i'll say it again, do not hate on the hot air balloon. ima definitely get me one of those suckers.

Drifblim will more than likley be on my party, he is the best! Eventhough it was me that originally said that he was crap. But I stick to my Legendaries theory.