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Bomberman
January 2nd, 2007, 07:11 PM
I just need one move and possibly an item for him, but any suggestions would be nice!

Dragonite Lv 57 (going to train to 100)
Hasty Nature
No Item
-Dragon Dance
-Aerial Ace
-Earthquake
-???

I was thinking Fire Blast or Ice Beam, but I'm not sure if that will be too beneficial with Hasty and Dragon Dance.

Alter Ego
January 2nd, 2007, 07:27 PM
For the last slot, I'd say Ice Beam (For other draongs), Thunder (To hit bulky water types), or Rock Slide (To hit Ice types and for another physical move). Hasty isn't really such a good nature for DDnite, but since you've already gone through the trouble of getting Dragon Dance and all, I guess it will do. Leftovers are the best held item. ^^

aragornbird
January 3rd, 2007, 04:18 AM
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Dragonite can't learn Rock Slide. =\

Thunder is the best for Bulk Waters and Skarmory. Unless you are paranoid about Zapdos, in which case, use Ice Beam.

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n3croart
January 3rd, 2007, 08:43 AM
Dragonite @ Leftovers
- Substitute
- Focus Punch
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt

Weobley
January 3rd, 2007, 09:02 AM
I reckon you should give it fire blast and then use aload of pp ups on that move and I think you should give it left overs my fav item

Arsibiyez
January 4th, 2007, 11:38 AM
Since you're going for Physical Dragonite, it's probably best to include Birck Break in there to take care of those Ice-types that are hybrid water. I'd probably have seconds thoughts on Aerial Ace. Dragon Claw, I guess.

Synchronize
January 4th, 2007, 12:48 PM
Since you're going for Physical Dragonite, it's probably best to include Birck Break in there to take care of those Ice-types that are hybrid water. I'd probably have seconds thoughts on Aerial Ace. Dragon Claw, I guess.

Thunder takes care of Water types while still taking on stuff like Skarmory and Aerodactyl who resist Aerial Ace. Aerial ace still gets STAB, like Dragon Claw, only, unlike Dragon Claw, it gets a boost from Dragon Dance. Eitter way, Ice Beam would be a better choice than Dragon Claw.

AC drain
January 4th, 2007, 06:02 PM
Hasty is not that good, dragonite is one of the slower dragons. I'd say ice beam for that last slot though, even if you don't train his special attack. It's really helpful against fliers like salamence and flygon

shanecdavis
January 4th, 2007, 06:23 PM
Hasty is not that good, dragonite is one of the slower dragons. I'd say ice beam for that last slot though, even if you don't train his special attack. It's really helpful against fliers like salamence and flygon
I would go with Thunder over Ice Beam since this is in-game and they will run into a lot more Waters than other Dragons/Zapdos.

jc_rcw
January 4th, 2007, 08:38 PM
Btw subpunch doesn't work ingame.

shanecdavis
January 4th, 2007, 08:48 PM
I have actually had pretty good success with SubPunch in-game, due to the crappy AI throwing in random non-attacks.

For example, I restarted my LG cart, and was losing to the TR Grunt on Nugget Bridge on purpose to get enough Nuggets to buy IB and SB when I reached Celadon. Well, I had a Lv6 Sandshrew and I went up against its Lv15 Ekans with Bite/Leer/Poison Sting/Wrap. All Ekans has to do is Bite twice and Sandshrew goes down. Does the pathetic AI do that???? Nope. It typically took SIX turns by using PS and then Wrap and throwing in a Leer for good measure. I got so frustrated that I counted 28 straight attacks from Ekans and not a single one was Bite. I figured (roughly) that the AI used Bite about 8% of the time during all the battles that I had with it.

Okay, rant aside, I use McGar in the BF with terrific results. Sometimes the AI ruins it, but more often than not, it sticks, and then McGar sweeps.

AC drain
January 4th, 2007, 09:11 PM
why thunder over Ice beam? Thunder may be a bit better in game but it's so prone to missing, I like ice beam more. Maybe even boltbeam world work, but then again he's using it as a Physical sweeper first and foremost, so there's room for only one special move.

shanecdavis
January 4th, 2007, 09:22 PM
Answered that already:
I would go with Thunder over Ice Beam since this is in-game and they will run into a lot more Waters than other Dragons/Zapdos.

Thunder is prone to missing, but it destroys Water-types. Ice Beam doesn't. Water-types typically carry Ice Beam, which is 4x weak to Dragonite. You face more Water-types carrying Ice Beam than Dragons. That is why Thunder > Ice Beam, especially in-game.

AC drain
January 4th, 2007, 09:31 PM
Still, Dragonite is far to slow to compete with waters like starmie, and if he misses with thunder he's just as screwed. Since his attack is so much higher, and waters tend to have more Special defense than Defense, he'd do almost as much damage with Physical moves that didn't land super effectives.What's more is those attacks, Like EQ and the like, don't miss making them better yet. But I do see you're point, Thunder > Ice beam, as far as special moves go.

shanecdavis
January 4th, 2007, 09:49 PM
Definitely see your point, but this is still in-game. You definitely wouldn't keep Dragonite in against a sweeper like Starmie, but normal stuff it works just fine. Thunder is also necessary for bulky waters that can withstand its physical attacks.

AC drain
January 4th, 2007, 09:51 PM
*bows* Well put, you win.

shanecdavis
January 4th, 2007, 09:58 PM
LOL You are a worthy competitor.

AC drain
January 4th, 2007, 10:02 PM
Do you play online at all? I'm pretty good for a girl..

shanecdavis
January 4th, 2007, 10:28 PM
Rarely anymore. I am typically swamped between work and home. A rare day off for me, tbh.

Synchronize
January 5th, 2007, 01:46 AM
Oddly enough these convos betwixt you two in threads are very eerie. I'm just glad ac_drain is half your age shane, otherwise one of you might be tempted to do something irrational!

on-topic though level 100 Dragonites can still OHKO alot of things with just Thunderbolt, even in the battle frontier.

Mullet
January 5th, 2007, 01:54 AM
Yes well you guys may be well and good at this Pokemoning thing. I am obviously the best though.

Seriously use SubPunch Boltbeam. Or DD/[Thunder/Thunderbolt]/Earthquake/Aerial Ace.

Synchronize
January 5th, 2007, 02:11 AM
Have you noticed that our RMTs in this forum have become redundantly long from useless bickering?

shanecdavis
January 5th, 2007, 02:16 AM
I would disagree that our RMTs are longer from useless bickering. LOL

I blame AC. It took longer to break her will than I thought.

AC drain
January 5th, 2007, 03:58 PM
Yeah, I'm sorry. I like friendly arguments.

Mullet
January 5th, 2007, 10:34 PM
Yeah most of the new raters that come here are intimidated, and they suck anyway. AC doesn't seem to bad though, girls on the internet FTW!

Bomberman
January 6th, 2007, 05:22 PM
Thanks everyone, I'll probably be going with Ice Beam.

@Mullet - Dream Theater FTW!