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Pokedragonfire
April 25th, 2004, 06:46 AM
I had a Macho Brace on my Shellgon, and it gained 10 HP in one level! It also gained like 7 Attack. You would have like ultimate pokemon if you gave the macho brace to a pokemon at level 5 and trained it to level 100! Okay, I have a tip. If you remove the Macho Brace before the pokemon grows a level, it will not gain the extra stat boost when it does grow thw level, even if you put it back on. Also, if lets say you caught a wild pokemon. Then you gave it the Macho Brace. It will not gain the stat bonus until the level after the next one. For example, you catch a lvl 25 Zigzagoon. You give it Macho Brace. You train it with Macho Brace and it grows to level 26. It will NOT gain the extra effects of Macho Brace until it grows another level (lvl 27). I hope this helps anyone who is trying to train their pokemon with a Macho Brace. :)

Intuition
April 25th, 2004, 06:48 AM
Doesn't it reduces speed or something?? That you gain less speed?

Pokedragonfire
April 25th, 2004, 06:52 AM
You don't gain less speed, just in battle you are slower. Kinda like you're paralized except you can always attack.

Intuition
April 25th, 2004, 06:54 AM
That isn't a bad thing.. So I should try it, does it work on EVERY pokemon or on certain types??

Pokedragonfire
April 25th, 2004, 06:58 AM
Every pokemon. I am not sure if it affects the other stats that did not grow to 7 or more. The were like 2 or 1, but the stat that got the highest boost changes every time. So it should be stronger than if it did not use a Macho Brace. Sometimes it boosts two stats to 7 or more. It all depends.

Intuition
April 25th, 2004, 07:08 AM
I looked it up on my GBA and every stat grows,
but it reduces speed..

starmie fighter
April 25th, 2004, 07:47 AM
the macho brace doubles the amount of EV's ur pokemon gets and if you get pokerus with macho brace and the right EV's you can get +18 in one stat

awkwardsilencer
April 25th, 2004, 09:15 AM
sweet i got pokerus rite now... im going to train

Lucifer
April 25th, 2004, 09:32 AM
Yeah, Macho Brace doubles the amount of EVs received per fight. You'll find that your stats won't rise that much on every single level, and the lower increases will cancel out the sky-high ones. The higher boosts will occur depending on the Pokemon you fight. The item basically does nothing except speed up EV training.

As a petty comparison though, +7 is nothing. I think it was my Flygon who received a +12 in Attack after fighting a load of Shuppets. ;)

Darth Revan
April 25th, 2004, 09:32 AM
where do you get this Macho Brace im to lazy to look it up so tell me

Lucifer
April 25th, 2004, 09:33 AM
Beat the family of trainers who live in the house along...some route. The one that leads to the desert. Not sure of the route number.

Darth Revan
April 25th, 2004, 09:40 AM
i have done that.....but i talked to them all i got nothing but a rare candy

Simon
April 25th, 2004, 09:44 AM
So if you were to train 2 of the same pokemon at level 5 with the same nature, only one of them will be holding the MB, will the one with the MB be stronger but slower?

Lucifer
April 25th, 2004, 09:49 AM
Skarm: you must have it. Check your PC (in game. Not here. Doi)

Demonchaos: no, that's not how it works. Macho Brace doubles the amount of EVs you receive, and that's all. If you fight 252 Shuppets with no Macho Brace (providing you haven't already got max EVs), you'll end up with around 60 extra points on your Attack stat by level 100. If you fight them with the MB, then you'll only need to beat 126 to max your Attack out. Either way you're getting the same effect, Macho Brace or not.

The speed reduction of the Macho Brace is returned to normal after the item's removed. It's nothing to be concerned about.

Chocobo
April 25th, 2004, 12:27 PM
Well I Figure Its Only Worth It If You're In A Hurry I Mean Me and My Friend Battle All the Time(I Always Win) And Sometimes I Give The Macho Brace To My New Pokemon So It Will Be Ready When We Battle PLUS I Give It To My Raichu Because Its Defence Is Low And I Want To Get It Up In A Hurry

Frostweaver
April 25th, 2004, 02:01 PM
Macho brace is just something essential to have on your pokemon when you're doing EV training. Even if you have the macho brace, remember that there's a cap on the amount of EV a pokemon can get. It's still a lot easier and safer to just go the EV training method

Shiney Gardevoir
April 25th, 2004, 02:22 PM
I was doing *hack* EV training against some Mewtwos in Sky Pillar, and my Gardevoir got 7, then 8, then 9 pts. in Sp. Attack (with macho brace of course) .

VanirElf
April 26th, 2004, 06:08 AM
uh...I think the way your pokemon grew 10 stat points like that is 'cuz you were fighting certain pokemon only.
I raise all my breedable pokemon with the mach brace from lv 5 to 100.
and they only get boosts like that when I train for specific stats.

like say I were fighting only spindas for my spcial stat...but even then it's kinda rare.
your's probably had the pokerus while u were training it and it was holding the mach brace
then I could see how so much stat growth would happen.

Lucifer
April 26th, 2004, 08:54 AM
uh...I think the way your pokemon grew 10 stat points like that is 'cuz you were fighting certain pokemon only.
I raise all my breedable pokemon with the mach brace from lv 5 to 100.
and they only get boosts like that when I train for specific stats.

like say I were fighting only spindas for my spcial stat...but even then it's kinda rare.
your's probably had the pokerus while u were training it and it was holding the mach brace
then I could see how so much stat growth would happen.

The Macho Brace and Pokerus have nothing to do with the +10 stat increases. They just speed up EV gaining. Beating 252 Spindas without the Macho Brace would result in the same EV distribution as someone who had the MB attached and beaten just 126. Think of it as the EXP Egg for the hidden EV stats.

Also, it depends on the Pokemon. Kyogre would gain massive +10 bonuses in its Special Attack with the right EV training, thanks to it's already high Special Attack base stat. Whereas a Skarmory EV trained to have a high Special Attack would never receive that sort of bonus, thanks to its pathetic Special Attack base value.

Darth Revan
April 26th, 2004, 12:50 PM
i just got the item i lved 20times....it dont give any extra stats for me at all......is there something im doing wrong?

Lucifer
April 26th, 2004, 12:59 PM
You don't just level up with it. In fact, it has nothing to do with levelling up.

First, decide which stat you want to make stronger. Then set out to battle the monsters that give out EVs in that stat area. I don't know many, but here's a few.

Whismur -> 1 HP EV
Shuppet -> 1 Attack EV
Clampearl -> 1 Defence EV
Spinda -> 1 Special Attack EV
Zigzagoon -> 1 Speed EV
Linoone -> 3 Speed EVs
Manectric -> 3 Speed EVs

So...

...say you want an attack boost. Head off to the first floor of Mt Pyre and battle (with the Macho Brace held) 126 Shuppets. It's easy to keep count of how many you've beaten by checking how much PP you've used beating them (providing you KO them in one hit). Once that's done, go start levelling up. You'll get the hefty bonus in Attack that you've worked so hard for.

[Note: Shuppets are only common in Sapphire. If you're playing Ruby then they're rare, and therefore not worth the hassle. It takes long enough to get the EVs as it is]

Of course, there's a cap on EVs. So if you've already been fighting loads of random enemies, then you most likely won't have room to max any of your stats anymore. If you really want the perfect monster then breed it to start your training anew.

Latios Master
April 26th, 2004, 09:11 PM
Something really weird happened to me once. Once when my Rayquaza grew to another level, all of its stats grew like +13. I was really suprised. I wasn't using a Macho Brace either. O_O

Lucifer
April 27th, 2004, 01:49 AM
That's because Rayquaza is pretty much a seriously strong mo'fo even without fairly distributed EVs.

Darth Revan
April 27th, 2004, 11:54 AM
i did that i didnt get no extra anything at all >.<

awkwardsilencer
April 27th, 2004, 02:22 PM
snorunt is sick
he evolved to glalie today, lvl 45 now, and his speeds going up from route 118

Winter
April 29th, 2004, 10:58 AM
It's not that you'll have the ultimate Pokemon, because their stats can only go so high based on their base stats. It just gets you to the end quicker, and saves you hours of training.

stewie&rupert
May 18th, 2004, 02:36 PM
i decided to try this out....
im training my feraligatr in route 119. now wen it grew to lv.40 its stats grew:
hp:3 atk:2 def:2 sp.atk:2 sp.def:2 spd:4
i know that aint good but its speed grew 4. that aint normal for my feraligatr. ist becuz its training in 119 beating zizagoons and linoons?

can someone give me a list of all the pkmn that give specific EV.

wait....feraligatr grew another lv.(41)
hp:4 atk:3 def:2 sp.atk:3 sp.def:2 spd:3
this is getting better:D

OH MY GOD!!!!!!!
i was EV training with typhlosion wen i ran into a 'special' linoone. it looked different and it had a twinkle in its eyes. i was leand back in the chair so i couldnt c it that god. i decided to capture it with my master ball. i looked....i was rite it WAS A SHINY!!!!
this is so special to me since this is my second shiny(1st cacturn). another thing that made this special was that i was EV training. linoone is going to be another one of my friends bcuz i hav a group of linoones that i use to 'pick up' items.

sorry for double posting but this is really important to me.
200th post :D:D:D


EDIT: Well not anymore... *199 post*
If you want to share that, you could have said it in the shiny pokemon discussion thread, or just edit...
~Frostweaver


oh that was nice.... well just answer my question plz. *201 now so there :P *