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Exokriz
January 5th, 2007, 09:15 PM
I'm about to start my FireRed game up again. I'm not going to be using my starter this time. My main pokemon is going to be Alakazam. Please rate my team. Change any pokemon you see that needs to be changed
Alakazam @ Leftovers
Modest Nature
-Psychic
-Calm Mind
-Thunderpunch
-Fire Punch
Raichu @ Leftovers
Lonely Nature
-Thunderbolt
-Focus Punch
-Substitute
-Thunder Wave
Snorlax @ Leftovers/Chesto Berry
Careful Nature
-Curse
-Body Slam
-Shadow Ball
-Rest
Kingdra @ Leftovers
Modest Nature
-Rain Dance
-Toxic
-Ice Beam
-Surf
Exeggutor @ Leftovers
Rash Nature
-Leech Seed
-Sleep Powder
-Psychic
-Explosion
Heracross @ Leftovers/Salac Berry
Adamant Nature
-Megahorn
-Brick Break/Rock Slide
-Rest
-Sleep Talk
AC drain
January 5th, 2007, 09:21 PM
I'm about to start my FireRed game up again. I'm not going to be using my starter this time. My main pokemon is going to be Alakazam. Please rate my team. Change any pokemon you see that needs to be changed
Alakazam @ Leftovers
Modest Nature
-Psychic
-Recover
-Calm Mind
-Fire Punch / Ice Punch / Thunderpunch
Stick with thunder punch if you're in game.
Raichu @ Leftovers
Lonely Nature
-Thunderbolt
-Focus Punch
-Substitute
-Thunder Wave
No, not a good sub-puncher, slow is a good thing for them.
Snorlax @ Leftovers/Chesto Berry
Careful Nature
-Curse
-Body Slam
-Earthquake
-Rest
This works. there are better sets, and he makes a great sub-puncher, but in game this is fine.
Kingdra @ Leftovers
Naive Nature
-Rain Dance or Dragon Dance?
-Toxic
-Ice Beam
-Surf
Well since you have all special moves use rain dace, of course. Swift swim play well with that.
Exeggutor @ Leftovers
Rash Nature
-Sunny Day
-Solarbeam
-Psychic
-Explosion
This is okay too. Again, better sets are around but this will dominate in game
Heracross @ Leftovers/Salac Berry
Adamant Nature
-Endure
-Reversal
-Megahorn
-Swords Dance
very good. typical salac heracross
Exokriz
January 5th, 2007, 09:47 PM
Alakazam @ Leftovers
Modest Nature
-Psychic
-Recover
-Calm Mind
-Fire Punch / Ice Punch / Thunderpunch
Stick with thunder punch if you're in game.
I don't need Thunderpunch because of Raichu, Fire Punch is better because I dont have any Fire Moves anyway.
Raichu @ Leftovers
Lonely Nature
-Thunderbolt
-Focus Punch
-Substitute
-Thunder Wave
No, not a good sub-puncher, slow is a good thing for them.
This Is the best in-game Raichu...
stupid25characterlimit!!!
Synchronize
January 5th, 2007, 09:47 PM
Haha, wonderful. Just make sure physical sweepers don't get a whiff of your Heracross's plan.
shanecdavis
January 5th, 2007, 10:11 PM
I'm about to start my FireRed game up again. I'm not going to be using my starter this time. My main pokemon is going to be Alakazam. Please rate my team. Change any pokemon you see that needs to be changed
Alakazam @ Leftovers
Modest Nature
- Psychic
- Encore/Thunderpunch
- Calm Mind
- Fire Punch
Encorezam rules. Encore when your opponent does a non-attacking move, CM up, and sweep. If that isn't doing it for you, Thunderpunch is a good option. Recover isn't.
Raichu @ Leftovers
Lonely Nature
- Thunderbolt
- Focus Punch
- Substitute
- Thunder Wave
It's a SubPunch Raichu.
Snorlax @ Leftovers/Chesto Berry
Careful Nature
- Curse
- Body Slam
- Shadow Ball/Earthquake
- Rest
It's a Curselax. Earthquake if you aren't afraid of Ghosts.
Kingdra @ Leftovers
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Rain Dance
- Toxic
- Ice Beam
- Surf
RD Kingdra doesn't need +Spd nature. It needs power.
Exeggutor @ Leftovers
Rash Nature
- Giga Drain/Leech Seed
- Sleep Powder
- Psychic
- Explosion
Avoid having RD and SD on the same team. Choose one or the other. Exeggutor can also be used to inflict status before booming.
Heracross @ Leftovers/Salac Berry
Adamant Nature
-Endure
-Reversal
-Megahorn
-Swords Dance
Stalkercross > this one.
Decent team. I would get rid of Kingdra or Exeggutor (prolly Kingdra) and add a physical tank/wall.
Exokriz
January 5th, 2007, 10:23 PM
@shanecdavis: Just a few Questions.
On Alakazam: Why replace Recover? Wouldn't he need it?
On Kingdra: You said to switch it for a physical Tank but wouln't Snorlax be considered as one?
On Heracross: I thought that was a Stalkercross? What is the moveset for a Stalkercross then?
shanecdavis
January 5th, 2007, 10:44 PM
@shanecdavis: Just a few Questions.
On Alakazam: Why replace Recover? Wouldn't he need it?
On Kingdra: You said to switch it for a physical Tank but wouln't Snorlax be considered as one?
On Heracross: I thought that was a Stalkercross? What is the moveset for a Stalkercross then?
Alakazam is a sweeper. It's defenses are too weak for Recover to be much of a benefit. Once you Recover, you will then have to keep using Recover to replenish the HP loss of the next turn. Instead, you Encore a non-attacking move, or you go down swinging.
Snorlax is a SPECIAL wall, not a physical one. Its base Def is only 65. You have to Curse up to make it withstand physical attacks.
Stalkercross:
Heracross @ Leftovers
- Megahorn
- Rest
- Rock Slide/Brick Break
- Sleep Talk
Yours is Reversalcross.
Rubberbandman
January 5th, 2007, 10:47 PM
Stalkercross= Sleep Talk and/or rest together
Exokriz
January 5th, 2007, 11:07 PM
Alakazam is a sweeper. It's defenses are too weak for Recover to be much of a benefit. Once you Recover, you will then have to keep using Recover to replenish the HP loss of the next turn. Instead, you Encore a non-attacking move, or you go down swinging.
Snorlax is a SPECIAL wall, not a physical one. Its base Def is only 65. You have to Curse up to make it withstand physical attacks.
Stalkercross:
Heracross @ Leftovers
- Megahorn
- Rest
- Rock Slide/Brick Break
- Sleep Talk
Yours is Reversalcross.
Now that I think about it, that's a good point, I'll have to do that.
So, a Blissey would be a Physical Wall, right? If I were to add one of those to my team then would Curse on my Snorlax be needed?
I'm going to use the Stalkercross, Adamant Nature?
shanecdavis
January 5th, 2007, 11:12 PM
NO. Like Snorlax, Blissey is a SPECIAL wall. Special walls are Pokes that can absorb special attacks like they were paper cuts. Blissey's base SDef is a strong 135. Its base Def is a mere 10. Yes, TEN. As in the worst Def stat in the game (other than its pre-evo Chansey's 5). That said, since Blissey has such high HP (base 255), if you go Bold and then max Def, it can actually take a non-STAB Earthquake.
Adamant Stalkercross is just fine in-game.
Exokriz
January 5th, 2007, 11:28 PM
NO. Like Snorlax, Blissey is a SPECIAL wall. Special walls are Pokes that can absorb special attacks like they were paper cuts. Blissey's base SDef is a strong 135. Its base Def is a mere 10. Yes, TEN. As in the worst Def stat in the game (other than its pre-evo Chansey's 5). That said, since Blissey has such high HP (base 255), if you go Bold and then max Def, it can actually take a non-STAB Earthquake.
Adamant Stalkercross is just fine in-game.
Ouch, thats bad.....Could you help me with a good Physical Wall? I'm stumped on that....
shanecdavis
January 5th, 2007, 11:42 PM
A physical wall is a Poke that has a high base Def and no physical weaknesses or super high base Def so the physical weaknesses don't matter too much.
Skarmory
Weezing
Steelix
Cloyster
Forretress
Donphan
Lugia
Suicune
Umbreon
Slowbro
Exokriz
January 5th, 2007, 11:52 PM
A physical wall is a Poke that has a high base Def and no physical weaknesses or super high base Def so the physical weaknesses don't matter too much.
Skarmory
Weezing
Steelix
Cloyster
Forretress
Donphan
Lugia
Suicune
Umbreon
Slowbro
I'll use Steelix
Steelix @ Leftovers
Relaxed Nature
-Earthquake
-Double Edge
-Iron Tail
-Toxic
This probably isn't right, I've never used Steelix before.
Rubberbandman
January 6th, 2007, 12:16 AM
A physical wall is a Poke that has a high base Def and no physical weaknesses or super high base Def so the physical weaknesses don't matter too much.
Skarmory
Weezing
Steelix
Cloyster
Forretress
Donphan
Lugia
Suicune
Umbreon
Slowbro
The following bolded pokemon are NOT REAL PHYSICAL WALLS shane
Synchronize
January 6th, 2007, 12:34 AM
Lugia is, but the rest he listed are moreso physical "tanks" rather than "walls" in which there is a difference. I would say Lugia is a wall for its great HP and Defense, and its ability to use Reflect at such a high base speed.
As far as that Steelix, it's fine, just use Rock Slide over Double-Edge. You can use Explosion over Iron Tail or Toxic.
shanecdavis
January 6th, 2007, 07:50 AM
The following bolded pokemon are NOT REAL PHYSICAL WALLS shane
Thanks for the correction. I was afraid I was going too far down, but my brakes went out.
Crimson Arcanine
January 6th, 2007, 10:42 AM
The following bolded pokemon are NOT REAL PHYSICAL WALLS shane
Umbreon and Suicune can wall both physical and special though they are both better against special then physical. They can be used for the job through (in my opinion)
Fell free to shoot me down with a pressurized fire hose. (Me = :knockedou )
Synchronize
January 6th, 2007, 05:19 PM
Meh, it's not a controversy worth making a fuss about. As long as do their job well, thats all that matters.