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Meowth
January 5th, 2007, 06:57 PM
In fact I have proof.

Remember the rival in the G/S series, Silver? He was the one with Red Hair. I have proof that proves that he is Giovanni's son.

First: Silver comes from nowhere in the G/S series, and the first thing he does is steal a POKeMON. Not something a nice Kid would do, right?

Second: After you defeat the Rocket Warehouse in the Sevii islands in FR/LG, talk to the scientist.

He'll say, "What, you again? You... You're not GIOVANNI's kid, are you? No, that cant be right! GIOVANNIs kid has red hair. You dont have any reasns for bugging me. Leave me alone!"

Got anything else, or perhaps you'd like to go against what I've shown?

Scarlet Weather
January 5th, 2007, 07:00 PM
Um... I don't really think I ever believed Ash and Giovanni were related. But remember, Silver isn't an anime character, and Ash doesn't exist in the games, so your proof isn't really conclusive.

Meowth
January 5th, 2007, 07:02 PM
But Silver existed in the Mangas. I forget where from.

And you could say that Red is Ash... though it is debatable.

Shadow
January 5th, 2007, 07:29 PM
Um... I don't really think I ever believed Ash and Giovanni were related. But remember, Silver isn't an anime character, and Ash doesn't exist in the games, so your proof isn't really conclusive.

Silver was in a special episode in the anime, as well as Gold, Crystal, and a new character (who later appeared in the Johto finals and called out names believed to be the horribly translated Gold and Crystal names).

Ash is Red in the games, pretty much proven by the fight in G/S/C where his main Pokemon is a Pikachu.

And I've never really believed the Ash and Giovanni theory, mostly because it's a tiring cliche that got old after all the millions, nay billions of Star Wars parodies.

Akio123
January 5th, 2007, 07:49 PM
He isn;t actually Ash's father people jsut started that rumor bvecuase of Pokemon on ice.

Captain Arcane
January 5th, 2007, 09:05 PM
I highly doubt, and I have never heard of Giovanni being Ash's father. I cant see that being true at all.

SnowPhoenix
January 5th, 2007, 09:20 PM
I have heard the rumor of Giovanni as Ash's father, but I never believed it. It's complete nonsense.

Akio123
January 5th, 2007, 09:35 PM
Like I said, it's only because pf Pokemon on Ice. I mean if it was the pokemon radio drama then I would believe it is true. However witht eh Silver thing being his son, I know Kamon porbaly is his son, but you have to realize the game does not completely correspond to the game.

J
January 6th, 2007, 04:30 PM
Wut? Giovanni? Ash's dad? Whoever said that before?

Though according to the manga, Silver(in PokeSpecial) is Giovanni's son. :x

ChrisG14
January 6th, 2007, 05:20 PM
There was a Pokemon on Ice?

Meowth
January 6th, 2007, 06:01 PM
Yeah, I've heard of it once or twice...

Otter Mii-kun
January 6th, 2007, 06:11 PM
Perhaps Ash's father is some obscure darth force unknown to most of the PokeWorld.

Drifblim
January 6th, 2007, 07:55 PM
How long has it been known that Giovanni did not father Ash....

What was the genesis of this rumour anyway?

pigeon-wing
January 6th, 2007, 08:22 PM
Of course Giovanni isn't Ash's father.

Professor Oak is! C:

How long has it been known that Giovanni did not father Ash....

What was the genesis of this rumour anyway?

In Pokemon Live!, Ash's mother was Giovanni's girlfriend when she was a teenager.

Lie Ren
January 6th, 2007, 08:30 PM
Truthfully...I never thought that Giovanni was Ash's father in the first place...

Ever...

Besides, Pokemon Live doesn't hold true to the Japanese version... Its like that Misty's Song where she says she loves Ash.
In the Japanese version she never anything towards Ash, it was only slightly implied in the dub.

Perhaps Ash's father is some obscure darth force unknown to most of the PokeWorld.

Yes... I like that theory. xD I'll go with that one from now on...

Meowth
January 16th, 2007, 05:19 PM
I hate when they do that... they should keep the basic principles of the original version in the American DUB as well.

Although Misty's sog did inspire a lot of shippers..

Aegis
January 16th, 2007, 05:28 PM
In fact I have proof.

Remember the rival in the G/S series, Silver? He was the one with Red Hair. I have proof that proves that he is Giovanni's son.

First: Silver comes from nowhere in the G/S series, and the first thing he does is steal a POKeMON. Not something a nice Kid would do, right?

Second: After you defeat the Rocket Warehouse in the Sevii islands in FR/LG, talk to the scientist.

He'll say, "What, you again? You... You're not GIOVANNI's kid, are you? No, that cant be right! GIOVANNIs kid has red hair. You dont have any reasns for bugging me. Leave me alone!"

Got anything else, or perhaps you'd like to go against what I've shown?

Um, Silver isn't in the anime. Just thought I'd point that out. The characters from the anime and manga don't interact, other wise Ash's name would be Red, May would be Sapphire, etc, etc... So you can't really base your theory on that

But I never really thought Giovanni was his father anyway.

Goku Goku
January 16th, 2007, 05:50 PM
I never believed Ash's father was Giovanni at all, though at one time a few years back I had a hunch that Giovanni was Gary's father and Prof. Oak's son for some odd reason. Silver's obviously more plausible, unless Giovanni is just childless really. :\