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Shiny Umbreon
February 12th, 2007, 07:22 PM
Doesn't everybody think Ash is a fool? Just looking at Kanto Pokémon, he's seen almost all the 151 (at the wild), but has caught less than 20! He didn't even caught the annoying Jigglypuff that used to appear in all episodes!

He wants to be a Pokémon Master, but doesn't caught a single Pokémon to try its strength!

Miss Reyna
February 12th, 2007, 07:52 PM
Not really. I mean why have so many pokemon? If he caught every pokemon he sees then it be no fun and they will all just be boring. Every time Ash uses his storage pokemon we see a little bit of their personity and how they are. I mean Muk is just funny. Tauros was just plain great in the last battle it was in. If Ash had so many pokemon then it would be just plain impossible to just show case them all.

Also with having limited pokemon like he does now that makes him a better trainer because he can focus his attention on just one instead so many which makes the select few he has very powerful.

Gary, the Magic Fairy
February 12th, 2007, 09:14 PM
Does Ash really need 200+ pokemon that we'll see -maybe- once? He has plenty of neglected pokemon already.

Ash getting more pokemon wouldn't make him a better trainer; keeping the one's he has, and not dumping them off at Oak's at the start of each new 'adventure', however, might help some.

Charaxes
February 13th, 2007, 02:46 PM
I know there is a derivative of this somewhere, but since we don't have a current debate, I'll let this go. For now, anyway.

I'm surprised no one noted on the Legendaries with him. Heh. Otherwise, I totally agree with Reyna.

Haowakeorden
February 13th, 2007, 02:51 PM
He wants to be a Pokémon Master, but doesn't caught a single Pokémon to try its strength!Perhaps all of the slogans in the anime were misleading. There seem to be at least two major definitions of "Pokémon Master": The competition-related one and the one related to the number of Pokémon owned. In the anime, Ash is clearly dedicated to winning competitions. So in that way, he is indeed on his way to becoming a Pokémon Master.

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~
February 13th, 2007, 05:38 PM
As we think of it in the game thats pathetic. But if Ash had alot of Pokemon like that, the show wouldn't be as great as it is now. But with the Purin appearing everywhere, then I'll have to agree with you because if a Pokemon kept following me and it were a annoying thing then I'll catch it

:t354:~*!*~Queen Boo~*!*~

Aegis
February 13th, 2007, 06:38 PM
Not really. I mean why have so many pokemon? If he caught every pokemon he sees then it be no fun and they will all just be boring. Every time Ash uses his storage pokemon we see a little bit of their personity and how they are. I mean Muk is just funny. Tauros was just plain great in the last battle it was in. If Ash had so many pokemon then it would be just plain impossible to just show case them all.

Also with having limited pokemon like he does now that makes him a better trainer because he can focus his attention on just one instead so many which makes the select few he has very powerful.

As we think of it in the game thats pathetic. But if Ash had alot of Pokemon like that, the show wouldn't be as great as it is now. But with the Purin appearing everywhere, then I'll have to agree with you because if a Pokemon kept following me and it were a annoying thing then I'll catch it

:t354:~*!*~Queen Boo~*!*~


I agree with you two. If Ash caught them all, then he would be pretty much unbeatable in a battle. He'd have every type of pokemon to use, and lots of backups. I'm pretty sure in the anime being a pokemon master just means beating a league (actually, no it doesn't) but he has to first win a league to even consider catching them all.

Aether
February 13th, 2007, 06:41 PM
yeah, the way things work in the anime and in the games are different, i mean in the games its no question catch every single pokemon that you find to complete your pokedex, but in the anime, you think of it like that and its just like your 250+ pokemon you have are just sitting in your computer Box forever while your pokedex is just something that instantly tells you about the new pokemon in an episode O.O;

Gary, the Magic Fairy
February 13th, 2007, 09:16 PM
If Ash caught them all, then he would be pretty much unbeatable in a battle.I don't think so. If he has 6 pokemon that he trains exclusively, he has a better chance at winning a battle than if he had hundreds of barely-trained pokemon. 200 level 10 pokemon aren't going to defeat a level 100 one.

Unown_
February 14th, 2007, 10:59 AM
It's pointless to have 200+ Pokémon IMO. Quality versus quantity. In a Pokémon League you're still restricted to a max of six. But more importantly: does a trainers automatically become a Pokémon master when he/she has ever known Pokémon on the planet?

Would people be acknowledge as the best race-drivers simple because he/she owns every type of car on the planet? Probably not.

Forci Stikane
February 15th, 2007, 10:16 AM
I know there is a derivative of this somewhere, but since we don't have a current debate, I'll let this go. For now, anyway.

*Has flashbacks from other "thread"*

AAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! Make the bad person stop, mommy!

.........

>.> <.<

*ahem*

Yeah, if Ash had that many Pokemon there'd be no way for him to lose.

Charaxes
February 15th, 2007, 10:22 PM
*Has flashbacks from other "thread"*

AAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! Make the bad person stop, mommy!

I think you mean "Daddy", don't you? Hehehehe.

Seriously, though, he'd just neglect most of them for the really cool ones (neglecting like say Torkoal or Heracross vs. one like Charizard or Spectile). I don't blame him, but still, it's not like he'd train them for filling out the Dex or they'd be accidental like his Donphan.

Forci Stikane
February 16th, 2007, 12:53 PM
I think you mean "Daddy", don't you? Hehehehe.

......

You are now dead to me.

Jim
February 16th, 2007, 03:38 PM
:D ... Anyway back on topic; I think we should see more of Tauros, Snorlax, Kingler and more importantly MUK! He should also go back for Pidgeot.

heyadj
February 16th, 2007, 04:55 PM
I really miss Kingler :( Kingler is one of my favorite Pokémon - and it was the first one he caught, which had to be transfered to Professor Oak.

Scarlet Weather
February 17th, 2007, 05:47 PM
I know there is a derivative of this somewhere, but since we don't have a current debate, I'll let this go. For now, anyway.

I'm surprised no one noted on the Legendaries with him. Heh. Otherwise, I totally agree with Reyna.

So do I... but I remember that other thread too. *Shudders at the horror that was the "What's up with Ash?" discussion thread*. Ah, it's nice to have a place where we can yelll at Ash for what's really wrong with him: HE NEVER USES HIS JOHTO STARTERS! WHY CAN'T THEY BRING BACK BAYLEEF? WHY? IS CHIKOSHIPPING OUTLAWED NOW OR SOMETHING? I- *gets shot before rant against Ash's Poke-dumping goes any further*. Seriously, though, the dumping does have a purpose. If he doesn't Oak Pokemon, they'll have no time to rest, and he won't be able to capture ANY new Pokemon that need to be trained. No power is bad, but so is no diversity. Of course, Ash's whole "I'm-gonna-leave-with-just-Pikachu-for-Hoenn-because-Gary-only-left-with-Blastoise" was dumb in the highest degree. Dude, he doesn't even technically TRAIN anymore. Jeez, Ash, you need a brain transplant for even SAYING that...

mewtwo9999
March 13th, 2007, 11:54 AM
seeings how everyone is insulting ashes poke dunping why hasnt he gone back to get his charizard? i mean thats been gone since around the orange islands im sure by now its hit lvl 100

Drifblim
March 13th, 2007, 12:06 PM
I find it interesting that a lot of the fodder for Ash's ineptitude is judged to be the lack of Pokémon variety and his inability to train Charizard. If you lot remember, Gary had a bevy of Pokémon but he didn't, for example, finish the preliminaries at Indigo Plateau, whereas Ash did (before falling to Richie).

As for Charizard, I believe it simply grew to resent being hauled around with Ash, probably due to its unhappy memories with Damion. As a result, it pretty much went on its own accord, listening to Ash only when it judged it to be in its own interests. As a result Ash had to give it up in the Johto series, and I suppose it enjoys the company of other Charizards more than Ash, even though it still had the decency to come to the rescue when Entei and the Unowns went berserk. You should also consider that it evolved rather early in Ash's career, the first of his Pokémon to do so besides Butterfree (episode 43 and then episode 46), so I guess it could be a matter of Ash having a tendency to abuse it and the level of maturity gained in the process.

Sakuya
March 13th, 2007, 12:10 PM
Ash is becoming a Pokemon Master Trainer, not a catcher or breeder. :/ Why would he need over 350 pokemon?

Christophe
April 2nd, 2007, 04:11 AM
Ha, i was wondering the same thing. Has anyone in the anime actually wanted to catch em all? I'm surprised he didn't try to catch Lucario in his weak state to save him using a Pokemon Center or something. That might be impossible, but hey, just a thought.