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marz
February 26th, 2007, 07:50 PM
I have posted this some places, and said it in a few PMs, and it's time I announce it to the world.

I think Legendary Pokemon are over-rated and cliché

Yes, that's right. Listen, you tell me you just beat Emerald version with an awesome team, then tell me later on your star of the team was a Level 88 Mewtwo, I will not give a crap. I'd much rather hear about your level 54 Sneasel. Those Pokemon fascinate me because they're not advertised by everything. When I get the chance to catch a legendary, I will not take it. I honestly don't care. I'd just continue training my Average Joe Pokemon into Non Average Joes, and that's much more satisfying then catching a Pokemon who is already not an Average Joe. But, I do admit, two Pokemon has made it through my Legendary Hating wall, and that Pokemon is the Mystic Creature of the Water, Suicune, and the Ice bird Articuno. They're great. But every other Legendary--Mewtwo, Mew, Zapdos, Moltres, Entei, Raikou, Lugia, Ho-Oh, Celebi, Latias, Latios, Jirachi, Deoxys in all it's forms, Regirock, Registeel, Regice, Groudon, Kyogre and Rayquaza--I do not want in my party. I simply catch them to complete my PokeDex.

So, I want to know if there are any who think alike. Do you, not necessarily hate, but dislike or think legendary Pokemon are over-rated/cliché?

Rainfall
February 26th, 2007, 08:19 PM
I like the legendaries (like how they look and such) but I don't normally train them like as my team Pokemon. I agree that legendaries are a bit of a lazy way to get a team, and everyone seems to have them, so what team is unique if every trainer in the world has them? I mean, I have nothing at all against the legendaires. (Suicune is my favorite out of them all. X3) But yes, they are a bit of a cliché. If legendaries are so great, then how come they have like, fifty of them? Diamond and Pearl are coming out with about seven more, so this isn't helping the problem at all.

Shiny Umbreon
February 26th, 2007, 08:24 PM
I catch legendaries and leave them in my box (they must hate me). I don't dislike them, but using the same legends is not creativity. Investigating about powerful (but fairly powerful) Pokémon you might like in your party is what I like about Pokémon. Using legends is just having someone that'll always take down 2 or 3 Pokémon. BTW, that's why half the people don't like playing against/with Ubers.

Dee Trier
February 26th, 2007, 08:35 PM
I rarely use my legendary for link battle. Sometime i do if we agreed using legendary, but then what will be used is mostly legendaries and maybe just 1 or two slots using non-legendaries pokemon. And i think battle without it is better since it will more exciting more chalenging

Always and Never
February 26th, 2007, 08:48 PM
Yeah, legendaries are used to much. I don't use them but I catch them to complete. Just like everybody else.

Billiken
February 27th, 2007, 12:53 AM
There is no joy in using a pokemon you didn't raise. They are fun to play around wth but by that time i have already groen attached to my team and i don't want some new pokemoin to just jump in.

CHaRiSMa
February 27th, 2007, 02:01 AM
Yeah I think Legendaries are a bit overrated too. I don't play the games (coz I don't have any) but I've heard that ppl tend to use Legendaires a lot coz it's easy to win with them. So if I played the pkmn games I wouldn't do that. It's much more fun IMO to raise some ˝average˝ pkmn and besides isn't that what Pkmn is all abouT? So yeah, Legendaries are a cliché. And BTW they're too many of them too.

BowserBlastoise
February 27th, 2007, 07:13 AM
I tend to agree with the notion that legendaries are overrated. I don't think the Pokemon themselves are, 'cause theres no question that they're strong, but I think using them is. Every once in awhile I'll pull Zapdos thinking "Well, I could use a strong electric type" and I just always end up going back to my Jolteon. I've got all the legendaries in LG, but I keep them in the box...except Raikou...darn me for using the master ball on Mewtwo.

Alter Ego
February 27th, 2007, 07:45 AM
Nyu, I see that a lot of people can't tell the difference between legendaries and ubers. :\

It's true that some legendaries (Particularly Speed Deoxys, the legendary birds, Regirock and Registeel) get waaay too much credit to their name, it's also true that there's no fun in the full-legendary teams that a lot of idiots use, but something that definitely isn't true is that all legendaries are disbalancingly powerful and unfair. In fact, only a handful of pokémon have been deemed so disbalancingly powerful that they have been given their own metagame. These are Deoxys, Mewtwo, Mew, Ho-oh, Lugia, Rayquaza, Kyogre, Groudon, the Latis, and, drumroll please...Wobbuffet.

That's right, people, one of the disbalancingly powerful isn't even a legendary.

However, the rest of the legendaries (Regis, Legendary birds, Legendary cats, Celebi, and Jirachi) are actually more or less on par with non-legendaries other than Wobbuffet. Heck, a few are even overshadowed by them (Tyranitar, for instance, is a far better pokémon choice than Registeel) so they certainly aren't two to three KOs apiece like someone here claimed. Just think about the typings, Moltres and Articuno both have a double weak against Rock, they also have base speeds of 90 and 85 respectively. Aerodactyl on the other hand is a Rock type (Meaning + 50% base power for all its rock moves) and has a base Speed of 130, coupled with a devastating Attack stat. Now throw in a Choice Band and I think you'll find that neither Articuno or Moltres will be able to stand up to this guy. Similarly, Dugtrio traps and kills the slower Raikou (as long as Dugtrio is Jolly) not to mention Jirachi with a CB Earthquake, and any hard-hitting physical sweeper that gets a bug attack in against Celebi pretty much has the little celery stalk owned. And don't even get me started about the type coverage problems of the 'all legendary birds' teams and what-have-you that crop up. >.<

Really, I'm so sick and tired of people whining about the supposedly uberly strength of legendaries when in reality that only applies to a select group (mentioned above) and even ubers can be taken down if you're good enough. Legends can be KOed like anything else and I certainly have no issues with using them on NB. Ingame I don't bother, though, as they usually have a bad nature (and I can't be bothered to catch them again and again) and terrible IVs to boot. Besides, a lot of legendaries are only good in a competitive environment where they can specialize and where you can obtain the necessary - often hard-to-get - moves they need to shine. That and there are so many pokémon I'd rather train...like Cradily. =D

So in conclusion...do I think´legendaries are overrated? Judging by the masses of clueless N00Bs and anti-legendary whiners out there, heck yes. Do I hate or dislike them? Only a few, these out of personal reasons, but they are pretty hand to tap into as plot elements because of their semi-divine status. I don't always do it, but sometimes...sometimes...

Demonta
February 27th, 2007, 08:12 AM
This is a funny post.

The first thing I think when I read is that you're crying out for attention and individuallity. But being serious, that view is hardly shocking or possessed only by you. I sort of agree with what you said but you hardly backed your arguement with any examples. It is just a bunch of opinions that you probably only feel in order to feel happy about yourself.

marz
February 27th, 2007, 04:38 PM
I like the legendaries (like how they look and such) but I don't normally train them like as my team Pokemon. I agree that legendaries are a bit of a lazy way to get a team, and everyone seems to have them, so what team is unique if every trainer in the world has them? I mean, I have nothing at all against the legendaires. (Suicune is my favorite out of them all. X3) But yes, they are a bit of a cliché. If legendaries are so great, then how come they have like, fifty of them? Diamond and Pearl are coming out with about seven more, so this isn't helping the problem at all.

Suicune is quite cool, and I think it's pretty suckish how Legendaries are so numerous. Aren't they supposed to be rare? Sure, it's their race that's rare, they should call the legendary pokemon On-the-Brink-of-Extinction Pokemon.

I rarely use my legendary for link battle. Sometime i do if we agreed using legendary, but then what will be used is mostly legendaries and maybe just 1 or two slots using non-legendaries pokemon. And i think battle without it is better since it will more exciting more chalenging

It is much more fun and challenging without any Legendaries.

I tend to agree with the notion that legendaries are overrated. I don't think the Pokemon themselves are, 'cause theres no question that they're strong, but I think using them is. Every once in awhile I'll pull Zapdos thinking "Well, I could use a strong electric type" and I just always end up going back to my Jolteon. I've got all the legendaries in LG, but I keep them in the box...except Raikou...darn me for using the master ball on Mewtwo.

You'll always find a Pokemon that can probably match up with your legendary. I mean, Zapdos has a double weakness to rock, while Jolteon only has one. Jolteon and Zapdos probably have relatively the same speed (not going to go check stats) and with the help of TMs, Jolteon can learn better attacks then Zapdos naturally can.

This is a funny post.

The first thing I think when I read is that you're crying out for attention and individuallity. But being serious, that view is hardly shocking or possessed only by you. I sort of agree with what you said but you hardly backed your arguement with any examples. It is just a bunch of opinions that you probably only feel in order to feel happy about yourself.

1. You think whatever you want to think. If that fact that wanting to know if people think ALIKE and AGREE with me is a need for individuality, clearly you need to look up that word in the dictionary.
2. Let me re-phrase that. It is just a bunch of opinions that you probably only feel in order to feel happy about yourself. to see if people do agree with me and I'm not a loner on my thoughts. Even if I am, they're my thoughts and you can go ahead and call a mod to close this down.

Chibaymega12
February 27th, 2007, 08:06 PM
FINALLY, some one who gets that. Of course i always do catch the legendaries, but im never fool evough to put it in my party. Thats why, when i want awesome team, i catch pokemon at their lower levels. And if it's not available, i dont trade a level 85 tyranitar to my game to kick butt, i send the level 85 tyranitar to BREED. People need to get it through they're heads that pokemon you raise from lower levels come out stronger then legendaries that you catch at level 70 or somethin. Maybe catching a mew at level thirty when it's whimpy ( i got the mystic ticket :D) and then turning it into a kick butt pokemon, butt seriously, there's no reason to wait till the end of the game right before you face the eighth gym to catch a pokemon thats stronger than all of the rest of your pokemon, in fact, when you face a legendary, your pokemon should be AT LEAST 5 levels over it. And what more, you go into the E4 expecting the legendary to kick butt, but then it goes and gets beat all over the field, i mean honestly. Well, thats enough out of me, waht about you?

Shiny Umbreon
February 27th, 2007, 08:23 PM
People need to get it through they're heads that pokemon you raise from lower levels come out stronger then legendaries that you catch at level 70 or somethin.


Unless you train with Pokémon of very high level, POkémon caught in high level can be as powerful as the others if you manage to give him all the EVs before they reach Lv100, when they gain no exp. It's very simple, because to get to that Level you need A LOT of battles.

Still. I support your idea of beginning with low level POkémon because you can a more extended variety of movesets (rather than wasting mushrooms with a move tutor) and you can take advantage of pre-evolution-only moves.

Chibaymega12
February 27th, 2007, 08:43 PM
well ya, but im just sayin that its easier to train pokemon that you have from lower levels and that you've had from their lowest evo

Rainfall
February 27th, 2007, 09:13 PM
Yeah, catching Legendaries is always a fun challenge, but using them is a little out of my taste. (Well, except for Suicune, since its part of my team because I love it way too much. XD)

Synchronize
February 27th, 2007, 09:20 PM
Pokemon only come out "stronger" if you EV train them. Just leveling up from a low level doesn't make the process any easier.

Legendaries(not ubers) are NOT overrated because you don't like seeing them all the time. They're only overrated if their claimed usefulness is not all its cracked up to be. For pokemon like Suicune and Raikou, these tend to be true 99% of the time. If you really don't like them because they tend to be ♥♥♥♥♥d on most other teams, no one is forcing you to use them, and it's not really going to affect you much when your opponent uses them, unless you don't know how to use Meteor Mash against Regice.

As for people who go "I beat the Elite 4 with level 79045 Rayquaza with Explosion!" they don't really matter, because it's not a difficult feat, seeing as about a hundred million other players have done the same thing. The same goes for me. You don't really care that I beat the Elite 4 with a Special Attacking Aggron do you? I hope not.

Also, the game is about "fun." For in-game teams, you shouldn't be inside anyone's ass complaining that they're using legendaries. They can beat wild Tentacools in any manner they want. I can understand your plight for competitive play, but even then, taking on Raikou is simply a matter of a well placed Earthquake from Dugtrio or Snorlax. I mean, for the most part, these things aren't really difficult to counter with Standard OU pokemon.

Crimson Arcanine
February 27th, 2007, 11:37 PM
I dislike certain Legendaries, but I don't mind the dogs, the lati's and mew, I won't train any of the others in a team EVER, and the one two i've ever trained to be part of a team are Suicune and Latias. Many of them are over-used and over-powered, and I dislike them in general. The only ones I actually like a lot are Suicune, Latias and Mew.

Te-em
February 28th, 2007, 12:20 AM
Unless you train with Pokémon of very high level, POkémon caught in high level can be as powerful as the others if you manage to give him all the EVs before they reach Lv100, when they gain no exp. It's very simple, because to get to that Level you need A LOT of battles.

Still. I support your idea of beginning with low level POkémon because you can a more extended variety of movesets (rather than wasting mushrooms with a move tutor) and you can take advantage of pre-evolution-only moves.

I think Pokémon get more stats for their EV pointa if they are Lv.100. 1 stat for 4 EV points. (To raise the stat of a Lv.100, since it cannot level up, put it in a box)
see: http://www.psypokes.com/lab/evguide.php

I catch and train legendary Pokémon as any other Pokémon but when in link battle with my friend we usually have no more than 1 legenderay each in our parties. I think people should use their legednaries if they like them as Pokémon, not just becasue they are legendaries. I also think the legendaries are too hard to catch. The Mew glitch in Green version was fun, you could possibly not found out how to do it by yourself, but I would like to have seen the expression of the one who accidently encountered it in his game not knowing it was even there. But Pokémon like Deoxys are too hard to get. Often you need to buy a game like Pokémon Channel (to get Jirachi), but some pkmn are even harder to get (I don't know how to get Celebe in the jp Silver verison) and when someone finally gets, say Deoxys, they have a great advantage when meeting other players in battles. Deoxys and Arseus, I think they have way too high stats!

Auron
March 1st, 2007, 11:08 AM
Well, I think the Legendaries are Over-Rated...Well, I have a Groudon and a Kyogre in my team, but I don't use them so much...In fact, they haven't reached lvl100, but my Swampert, my Ludicolo and my Electrode have reached...Also, my friends say that winning battles with Legendary ones has not much prestige. It has more prestige winning with underused ones.

And, when I'll battle my friends (Because I have a NDS Lite, I can't link with my friends), we won't use the Legendary/Uber ones...

Aegis
March 1st, 2007, 11:19 AM
I like legendaries, but I don't use them. I only raised a Kyogre once, and that was before I went to the Journey across America, I wanted a good team for then and I knew lots of people would be using legendaries there. Usually though, I just use regular pokemon, just because I like them better.

Ichigo Flash
March 1st, 2007, 03:33 PM
I'd rather train other Pokemon tbh, It makes me feel alot more indiviual than just having all the legendaries my friends have. And just as Sync and a few of the other guys have said, they're not ovverated and in general, one well placed moved can throw them right over.

Rainfall
March 1st, 2007, 07:24 PM
Yeah, actually having the legendaries is fun, but training them, not as much.

Forever
March 1st, 2007, 11:55 PM
I don't care much for legends either, the cuter ones are better and seems stronger internally. *Doesn't know what she means but hopes someone else does*

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~
March 3rd, 2007, 07:58 AM
I don't care for legendaries but I only use one and that is Zapdos because I like it for some reason, but I hope that Giradina becomes over rated. But mostly Psychic type legendaries become over rated

:t354:~*!*~Queen Boo~*!*~

Chibaymega12
March 3rd, 2007, 08:04 AM
I've said before, but i really dont care for legendaries in my team, unless i REALLY REALLY need to fill a space on my team

Ethan621
March 4th, 2007, 08:39 AM
I think legendaries would be a lot more fun if you could breed them. That way, you could get a legendary at a low level and raise it yourself. Then, everyone's legendary would be different. Legendaries are always fun to play around with because they generally have an extremely large moevepool. If you could say you had a Mewtwo that you raised from lvl. five packing some crazy moves like fire punch and ice beam, wouldn't that be way cooler than having the same old Mewtwo that EVERYONE catches at lvl 70 (or whatever it is) in-game?

Vendour
March 5th, 2007, 02:12 PM
Mew IS NOT overrated.

That is all.

Chibaymega12
March 5th, 2007, 02:36 PM
I think legendaries would be a lot more fun if you could breed them. That way, you could get a legendary at a low level and raise it yourself. Then, everyone's legendary would be different. Legendaries are always fun to play around with because they generally have an extremely large moevepool. If you could say you had a Mewtwo that you raised from lvl. five packing some crazy moves like fire punch and ice beam, wouldn't that be way cooler than having the same old Mewtwo that EVERYONE catches at lvl 70 (or whatever it is) in-game?

Well, i agree with that partly, thats part of the reason i think most legendaries are over rated, every one's is the same

but i half agree half disagree about the breeding, for one, if you could breed a legendary pokemon, then it wouldnt really be legendary, but i do agree about how the pokemon pokemon should be at lower levels when you catch and/or recieve them. I think they should range from levels 1-25, thats resonable

Te-em
March 5th, 2007, 11:37 PM
Mew is lv.7 at Green version. but most legendaries are high, like 40-50-70, yes.

Prince Roserade
March 6th, 2007, 05:08 AM
Posted by Marz:
I have posted this some places, and said it in a few PMs, and it's time I announce it to the world.


I think Legendary Pokemon are over-rated and cliché

Yes, that's right. Listen, you tell me you just beat Emerald version with an awesome team, then tell me later on your star of the team was a Level 88 Mewtwo, I will not give a crap. I'd much rather hear about your level 54 Sneasel. Those Pokemon fascinate me because they're not advertised by everything. When I get the chance to catch a legendary, I will not take it. I honestly don't care. I'd just continue training my Average Joe Pokemon into Non Average Joes, and that's much more satisfying then catching a Pokemon who is already not an Average Joe. But, I do admit, one Pokemon has made it through my Legendary Hating wall, and that Pokemon is the Mystic Creature of the Water. Suicune. It's incredibly great. But every other Legendary--Mewtwo, Mew, Articuno, Zapdos, Moltres, Entei, Raikou, Lugia, Ho-Oh, Celebi, Latias, Latios, Jirachi, Deoxys in all it's forms, Regirock, Registeel, Regice, Groudon, Kyogre and Rayquaza--I do not want in my party. I simply catch them to complete my PokeDex.

So, I want to know if there are any who think alike. Do you, not necessarily hate, but dislike or think legendary Pokemon are over-rated/cliché?

I don't care for Legendaries, except Crescelia. I used to hate them, too but Crescelia made it through my Legendary-hating wall, XD.

I don't agree with you in the average Joe thing. Sure, Pokémon like Persian and Azumarill may be considered average, but there are plenty of non-legendary, such as Milotic and Roserade, that are far from average. I do get what you mean, though. ^^

Warheart
March 6th, 2007, 08:45 AM
Yeah, i guess this is true, but I still tend to use pokemon more based on how they actually look, rather than how strong they are...

So, for the most part, the only legendaries I use are Groudon, Articuno, and still, after all this time, Mewtwo.

Because they all look so Badass

Captain Arcane
March 13th, 2007, 01:11 AM
I see where your coming from marz, but thats not how I see it. I see them as the
needle(s) in a very big hay stack. You jump in the hay, and you keep picking and picking up straws of hay, but even though you don't find the needle, you inspect each straw you pick, and you see that some are bent, some are straight, some are darker, and some are lighter. When you finally find the needle or (if), you become overjoyed, but it doesn't last, and before long you notice no difference between the needle and the many different straws of hay you just acquired.

Midnight Bear
March 13th, 2007, 05:16 PM
I think legendaries look cool but are worthless and useless for anything except experience, so I make them faint and get experience.

Star★Seeker
March 13th, 2007, 05:35 PM
They are over rated.It's far funner to win a battle with your starter than with a legend.I beat my cousin's Charizard with my Venusaur and my team, and a Zapdos.I'm just too attached to Zappy,do much he's at level 97:shocked:
And I also got an Eevee in LG to level 97 thinking it will evolve into Umbreon.

Haowakeorden
March 13th, 2007, 05:42 PM
I think most of the Legendaries are all right, but Moltres was extremely overrated in Generation I. It had nowhere near the versatility of Articuno, Zapdos, or even many non-Legendary Fire-types, yet Moltres was considered "one of the most common Fire-type Pokémon".

Death Rogers
March 13th, 2007, 05:46 PM
Legendaries are somewhat overrated. I like using Pokemon I raised from level 2 better. But I don't really like them mainly because everyone has them. Have you ever met someone with Emerald that doesn't have a Rayquaza on his team? Or someone with Fire Red that doesn't have at least one legendary bird in his/her Hall of Fame? Normal Pokemon are best because they are more unique.

Aether
March 13th, 2007, 07:03 PM
I really see where you're coming from Marz, yes i do catch legendaries, but I never use them, they usually just always wasting away in my BOX, so i collect them and thats it, they're a little overpowered IMO. Heck if you want a challenge, try getting your level 65 Ralts and level 40 Gardevoir to 100 while trying to get that elusive pokerus XD thats how i play =)

Haowakeorden
March 14th, 2007, 02:04 PM
Normal Pokemon are best because they are more unique.A bit of a contradictory statement. One-time Legendaries are the most unique of all Pokémon; you can only catch one of each, while non-Legendaries can be bred, caught, traded, or whatever an infinite amount of times in a single save file.

Fox♠
March 14th, 2007, 02:36 PM
I have posted this some places, and said it in a few PMs, and it's time I announce it to the world.

I think Legendary Pokemon are over-rated and cliché

Yes, that's right. Listen, you tell me you just beat Emerald version with an awesome team, then tell me later on your star of the team was a Level 88 Mewtwo, I will not give a crap. I'd much rather hear about your level 54 Sneasel. Those Pokemon fascinate me because they're not advertised by everything. When I get the chance to catch a legendary, I will not take it. I honestly don't care. I'd just continue training my Average Joe Pokemon into Non Average Joes, and that's much more satisfying then catching a Pokemon who is already not an Average Joe. But, I do admit, one Pokemon has made it through my Legendary Hating wall, and that Pokemon is the Mystic Creature of the Water. Suicune. It's incredibly great. But every other Legendary--Mewtwo, Mew, Articuno, Zapdos, Moltres, Entei, Raikou, Lugia, Ho-Oh, Celebi, Latias, Latios, Jirachi, Deoxys in all it's forms, Regirock, Registeel, Regice, Groudon, Kyogre and Rayquaza--I do not want in my party. I simply catch them to complete my PokeDex.

So, I want to know if there are any who think alike. Do you, not necessarily hate, but dislike or think legendary Pokemon are over-rated/cliché?

It's old news that they're over rated. I like Ho-oh and Celebi though.

earthlywater
March 15th, 2007, 01:18 AM
I agree. Legendaries should be for Pokedex purposes ONLY. Unless it's a shiny or Dialga, I would just leave it in the PC for the rest of its life.

goofy_charizard_girl
March 15th, 2007, 05:24 AM
In a pokemon games I do catch legendaries because I want to collect as much pokemon as I can but I don't use them in battles I just used Groudon and Rayquaza in Ruby but I can't recall why.... I just remember that I got attached to our Groudon X3 ^^
Anyway if I played the game now I wouldn't use any legendaries. I think if they were real I wouldn't even try to catch them because they would be to strong and hard to find. I wouldn't even want to have all pkmn either.
But I don't have nothing against legendaries. I actually like them all and that interesting legends that are conected to them too.
But for them being overrated. Well I guess if we look from a point of games they are, though I don't care about that. I still like them.

ChrisG14
March 15th, 2007, 05:57 AM
Yes, Legendaries are overrated. They're ok to use in battle sometimes, but I just hate those kids that go "I got a [Insert Legendary here], he so awesm! 113(Whatever the hell that means)!" Those kids make me hate legendaries all together some days.

Chibaymega12
July 17th, 2007, 01:27 PM
The truth is, a noob without ubs, are nothing

Te-em
July 19th, 2007, 02:47 AM
I only used 1 legendary in my first team. My favorite Pokémon, except Darkurai, are not legendary.

Pocket Monster Researcher Archer
July 19th, 2007, 02:57 AM
i like the ledgends. but i dont really ever use them. i usualy have one of them per team. their not really over rated as such. dialgia is one of the more over rated but palkia is much better and people cant see that. pokemon like charizard which is rubbish in compairison with blaziken is over rated.

Chibaymega12
July 19th, 2007, 10:50 AM
WHAT?? I don't think ur getting what marz is meaning be over rated, AND CHARIZARD IS NOT OVER RATED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

~Swish~
July 19th, 2007, 10:57 AM
I have to agree that I rarely get any satisfaction from catching legendaries. I love them all but they should be by far the hardest Pokemon to find, and finding one should be an amazing and fairly rare thing. The locations should not be pre-set.

Dunsparce
July 19th, 2007, 12:25 PM
AND CHARIZARD IS NOT OVER RATED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Umm... yes it is.

The overweight lizard with wings has been overrated from RGBY tot he present. "Pokemon uses a Rock Attack! CHARIZARD fainted!" n00bs adore is for the simple fact that it looks like a dragon. If it was a sheep or something else, no one would want it. Nintendo always had favoured it. Look at poor
Venusaur/Blastoise. If they were both Dragons people would have fangasms just at the mention of them. Bellyzrd is stupid. Sure, it maximizes its Attack, but it halves it's HP. If Charizard goes first, it dies, even if it goes last, it dies. What makes Charizard any more usable than all the other Pokemon 4x Weak against Rock? (And Stealth Rock)

Anyways... When it comes to Legendaries, anything dragonic is Overrated. Kids love dragons, and so they use Dragon Legendaries

Chibaymega12
July 19th, 2007, 12:27 PM
i always liked Venusaur better than charizard any, and since my charizard is mostly ev trained, it takes three rock attacks to take my charizy out

Pocket Monster Researcher Archer
July 19th, 2007, 12:29 PM
Umm... yes it is.

The overweight lizard with wings has been overrated from RGBY tot he present. "Pokemon uses a Rock Attack! CHARIZARD fainted!" n00bs adore is for the simple fact that it looks like a dragon. If it was a sheep or something else, no one would want it. Nintendo always had favoured it. Look at poor
Venusaur/Blastoise. If they were both Dragons people would have fangasms just at the mention of them. Bellyzrd is stupid. Sure, it maximizes its Attack, but it halves it's HP. If Charizard goes first, it dies, even if it goes last, it dies. What makes Charizard any more usable than all the other Pokemon 4x Weak against Rock? (And Stealth Rock)

Anyways... When it comes to Legendaries, anything dragonic is Overrated. Kids love dragons, and so they use Dragon Legendaries

thank you. charizard is more well known than coca cola. its too over rated and its not even very good. and it grrr i just hate charizard, i have never liked it.

Chibaymega12
July 19th, 2007, 12:32 PM
*sob sob* he is not... xD if you train em' right, than even a magikarp can take out anything

Dunsparce
July 19th, 2007, 12:32 PM
i always liked Venusaur better than charizard any, and since my charizard is mostly ev trained, it takes three rock attacks to take my charizy out

Probably they come from Pokemon that suck or weren't trained properly.

What about a STABed Stone Edge comming off a Swords Dancing Rhyperior? Or a Head Smashing Relicanth? Both of those I own, and they're EV trained in just the right stats.

And don't forget Stealth Rock. Charizard gets raped in the ass so hard by it it gets mentally scarred for the rest of its life.

Chibaymega12
July 19th, 2007, 12:34 PM
fine, yeah, your right, you get the last word, i don't care

Katalyst
July 19th, 2007, 01:57 PM
Yes, it's true. Suicune is the only legendary I would have in my party. Every time I catch a legendary, it is sent to the box. If it is Suicune, maybe - MAYBE - it is moved to my team.

Chibaymega12
July 19th, 2007, 04:47 PM
Suicune, in my oppinion, is one of the less over rated pokemon, seeing as you have to train it relatively alot to get the best moves and stats out of it

Shinji_
July 19th, 2007, 07:03 PM
Your are right they'res no fun in training a pokemon thats already high leveled. It's more fun training normal pokemon =) The only legendar I would have in my team is an Articuno im just like you.