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Vulpix-trainer K
May 13th, 2007, 01:27 PM
I was playing Pokemon Emerald the other day when it suddenly popped in my mind. Pidgey is so darn small, still we must believe that it can carry a teenager trought the air by using the move Fly?
Same with Surf. How the hell can a Horsea sail you throught the water? With Lapras, Blastoise, Feraligator it is possible but really....

Lihinel
May 13th, 2007, 01:50 PM
Ever heard of something called Game Mechanics?

Logic is death, and btw, have you ever had your way blocked by a small stone or something like that or illuminated a cave for several hours by just using a light for like 4 seconds?
And even Doduo can use fly. (at least at R/B/Y if i remember right)

Rivvon
May 13th, 2007, 01:52 PM
Pokemon are magical in that aspect. o.o Things won't always make complete sense. Yet if they made a game that took everything like that into consideration, it would be very realistic and perhaps not so Pokemon-ish.

Scyther5
May 13th, 2007, 03:11 PM
Well I guess you could hold on to one of pidgeys legs as he carried you, and as for surf horsea could be the same concept and drag you across the water and keep you afloat. Only logic I could think of.

Rivvon
May 13th, 2007, 03:15 PM
Well I guess you could hold on to one of pidgeys legs as he carried you, and as for surf horsea could be the same concept and drag you across the water and keep you afloat. Only logic I could think of.

Yes, Horsea would make sense, but yet Pidgey would need a lot of strength to be able to carry you while you hung on it's leg. It makes sense, but it doesn't at the same time :/

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~
May 13th, 2007, 04:56 PM
Just like Rivvon said its all about Magic, like how can a fish that lives in the pond shoot a beam from there mouth *points to goldeen* Yea but I see what you are saying

:t354:~*!*~Queen Boo~*!*~

Athena
May 13th, 2007, 08:38 PM
Haha that is so funny. I actually was talking to a friend about this the other day. XDD We just rationalized it as the pokemon are RLY strong. xD; Or something. *cackles*

Dee Trier
May 13th, 2007, 08:43 PM
How about using them in (link) battle?
Whereever we fight, you can use fly (even in dive), dive/surf(in cave/grass), dig (while surfing)

Vulpix-trainer K
May 14th, 2007, 12:30 AM
It indeed would be a little stupid that you need a big pokemon already to use surf or fly. Indeed Pokemon is quite unlogic or to put it better, Logic in it's own way.
Althought this again proves the difference between te Pokemon games, and the Pokemon Animé.

CowFreak5
May 14th, 2007, 05:21 PM
It's a GAME. Of course it isn't logical. Which is also why you see the same blue blob fly/surf you places, not individual Pokemon.

DragronWarroir2000x
May 16th, 2007, 11:09 AM
Snorlax can learn surf. Kangaskhan can learn fly.

Logic?

Thread. Won.

Kotowari
May 19th, 2007, 12:23 AM
Ha! lol. I made a thread for this last year. xD

Same Idea popped in my mine.
I guess it's mainly a plothole, or as most say: the magic of Pokemon Games.

Alter Ego
May 19th, 2007, 03:26 AM
Let me see if I got this straight. You're looking for logic in a world where living beings can be captured in small balls of plastic which also turn them into completely obedient servants. Oh, and of course both living beings and objects can be broken down to data and reassembled perfectly and a ledge - no matter how small - is an impassable obstacle. Yeah, we're obviously dealing with a world of complete and all-consuming logic. :P

It's just game mechanics, plain and simple, logical or no.

RYOUKI
May 20th, 2007, 03:52 AM
things doesnt really make sense anymore
and its almost impossible for you to heard domeone thinking logicaly
its just like this question:"Which came first the chicken or the egg?"

kohei
May 22nd, 2007, 12:28 AM
And even Doduo can use fly. (at least at R/B/Y if i remember right)It's actually wire-action, like in those old Kung-Fu movies.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y211/kohei_iwasa/dodo-fly.png

SilverDragon
May 27th, 2007, 05:20 PM
Lol a pidgy is too small to fly a teenager to places but once it evolves, it's a whole 'nother story.

Alakazam17
June 1st, 2007, 06:10 AM
Heh, I don't have to watch the anime to know that there won't be a Flying Doduo anytime soon. And also, in the anime, I don't believe any of the smaller birds were used for flight. Ash just rode his Pidgeot after it evolved(Charizard too, but Charmeleon didn't have wings =P).

But if you think a Flying Doduo is scary, how about all those Pokemon who can get it via Metronome? I remember, on Pokemon Stadium 2, seeing a Togepi take flight. It was hilarious to say the least, XD.