Pokémon Sun and Rain versions

[Sharpedo]

Hi everyone,

It's been a while since i last visited the forums.
For the ones who don't remeber me....
I'm Sharpedo and i've started the new project Pokémon Sun and Rain.

You'll begin in an all new world called Aureos. I don't have a storyline, but i'll eventually make up one.

Features:
* New World (Aureos)
* Many Pokémon from the Johto, Kanto and Hoenn region
* Choose between Boy and Girl

That are the base features.

Other features who are not securely confirmed:
*CMS (I´m not good at that so if someone could assist me....)
*CBS

I'll post a picture of Aureos here.

Till the next update...

Sharpedo

[Fox_Die]

Hey, you're game sound cool, good luck with it

[Misdreavus]

yeh good luck to you and dont give up!

[Sharpedo]

I have a first time screenie. I hope y´all like it...

www.angelfire.com/pokemon2/rpg_hoenn/Milton_Docks.bmp (http://www.angelfire.com/pokemon2/rpg_hoenn/Milton_Docks.bmp)

[Fox_Die]

the link does not work for me

[Dawson]

sharpedo you should convert the image to png and upload it, that way you will create a thumbnail for all to see without having to click on a link.

[DarkMage31]

Sounds great! I like the name Aureos. Sounds very mythical! If you need help with the CMS, you can ask me. I'm pretty good with CMS's. Just lemme know what you need help with!

[Sharpedo]

Thanks Dm31. I appreaciate your help. I would like to make a CMS like that of Pokémon Ruby/Sapphire, but i'm very bad at ripping things...

@Phoenix316: That's a good idea.

[DarkMage31]

Here's my advice to all people trying to make custom systems for the first time: download, play, and examine complete games with custom systems like Kindred Saga. After you have a basic idea of the work that goes into it and a little understanding of how it was done, let me know and I will give you the steps.

www.gaminggroundzero.com (http://www.gaminggroundzero.com) has some of the best games, so go there first for downloading games.

[Sharpedo]

---------UPDATE 11-5-2004 ------------

Pokémon Sun and Rain version will have the following starters:

* Treecko
* Charmander
* Totodile

You'll receive them after saving the Pokémon professor.

The name of the professor will be: Francis.
I thought it was nice to insert a female Pokémon Prof.

It has always been a Male who is a professor in the games.

That are the main updates for today..

Till the next update..

Sharpedo

[TeamRocket]

You know that is what i am trying to decide on for my hack - what are you going to get to start out with. This may become a problem....

[Sharpedo]

Hmmm. Yeah that's a problem.
I'll change it into:
* Chikorita
* Torchic
* Squirtle

I maybe think that's a better choice :D

[Intuition]

Sounds cool.... How far are you?

[DarkMage31]

Meh, I liked the first one. I guess I'm just too much of a Charmander fan...

And RM2K isn't hacking... I don't understand why people call their games hacks. Would someone explain?

[Sharpedo]

@ Mewther: I'm busy making the maps, so it will take time to release a beta, because i'm going t code some things (Textbox, CBS etc.) and it needs time ;)

[Intuition]

I don't know why they call them hacks.. I think because there *noobs* ;)
You don't hack anything, you just make ur own game!
And sharpedo.. I know it takes time, but good luck! I didn't knew that u just started your GAME.. (not hack guys..) :D

EDIT: Ik zag net dat je uit Nederland komt Sharpedo.. :) ik kom uit Drenthe..

[Sharpedo]

@ Vet. Ik kom uit Flevoland.
Translation: Cool, i am from Flevoland.

~~~~~~UPDATE 12~5~2004 ~~~~~~~

I have the first 2 screens of the battle systeem up

I hope you like them

Enjoy

www.angelfire.com/pokemon2/rpg_hoenn/naamloos.bmp (http://www.angelfire.com/pokemon2/rpg_hoenn/naamloos.bmp)
www.angelfire.com/pokemon2/rpg_hoenn/naamloos2.bmp (http://www.angelfire.com/pokemon2/rpg_hoenn/naamloos2.bmp)

[Intuition]

They don't work for me!.. :\

[DarkMage31]

"Your account has been suspended"
it said. What happened?

[Gymdawg]

I don't know why they call them hacks.. I think because there *noobs* ;)
Yep, they're either very big n00bs or they just wanna think they're hackers :paranoid:

I got what 31 got, your account has been suspended.

BTW, What language are y'all speaking?
1 (4|\| 5p34k (001 l4|\|9u4935 700!

[Berserk]

The links worked fine for me. Maybe he fixed it.

[Dawson]

are you making your own cbs because i can't see the pictures.

[Intuition]

Yep, they're either very big n00bs or they just wanna think they're hackers :paranoid:

I got what 31 got, your account has been suspended.

BTW, What language are y'all speaking?
1 (4|\| 5p34k (001 l4|\|9u4935 700!
You mean what Sharpedo and I did?? That's Dutch.. Where from Holland! :)

[DarkMage31]

Yeah, I speak l33t too, flaming leet monkey gymdawg.
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Translation: I can speak cool languages like French and Leet

[Sharpedo]

Allright guys,

I'm going to fix the links of the pictures. I will be using the CBS of Meerkat and DM31, but in the first beta you'll see the Battle Sys of rm2k3, because i will need alot of time to understand the script.

Till the next update..

Sharpedo

[Gymdawg]

Don't you mean we're Mewther?...

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Translation: Learn to speak 1337 or you'll die without a clue XD (that's not what I said...)

Can't wait for the updates 5h4rp3|]0!

[PatriotFan89]

Sounds pretty good Sharpedo! Keep us updated! And Gymdawg somehow I can understand that!

[DarkMage31]

Pig latin is definatly not a language, lol!

Back on topic: Updates, updates, screens, demos, playable goodness!

[Gymdawg]

Are you trying to deny me my pig latin?
Let's see, technically it's latin, which is a language...

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[PatriotFan89]

lol Let's get back on topic now Gymdawg.

[DarkMage31]

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The struggle to stay on topic is too great...

[Sharpedo]

ehm...Alright, could we revert back speaking plain English and get ontopic, please?

[Intuition]

Ok, so, when are u gonna release an early demo so we can see how good you are?? ;) XD!

[Sharpedo]

Well, i don't have an idea, because i just started the project for about a week, Ok?
And about that being a good programmer...I'm just good at making maps and little scripts, so with big scripting i'm a n00b. :P

[Sharpedo]

It's been a while since i've updated

I've been working on the Intro and i have finished making the map for the first beta.

I will update soon in these days.

Sharpedo

[DarkMage31]

Sounds great! Can I see some screens from your intro?

[awkwardsilencer]

dude leets no more a language than pig latin

[DarkMage31]

True... very true, unfortunately.

Alright, stay on topic!!! *thrashes whip*

[Sharpedo]

Hey Darkmage,

Could i use your CBS from Lunar/Solar, because it looks cool and i would like to make a game that doesn't need to use that boring DBS of rm2k3.

[DarkMage31]

Sure, no problem. I'd like that. If you have any problems, you know who to call!

[Sharpedo]

thnx alot. I've started to code it. I hope the basics are done
when the basics are done.

[Craig619]

what's the difference between the sun and rain versions then, because you wont be able to trade pokemon between the two versions

[Sharpedo]

i'm going to make two different plots. They'll have two very different adventures

[PatriotFan89]

Looking very good Sharpedo! When do you think the first beta or demo will be released?

[Sharpedo]

Well i've just finished making the maps. Now i have to program the CBS and the switches
It's coming very well

[Sharpedo]

I'm having problem setting my pictures in my freewebs site. That's bad because i had 3 new screens to post....Could someone help me out?

[DarkMage31]

What trouble are you having? If freewebs isn't working, upload it to a place like www.villagephotos.com (http://www.villagephotos.com) or www.photobucket.com (http://www.photobucket.com) and then insert the following HTML code where you want the picture to be:
<img src='[your image URL]'>

[Sharpedo]

thanks DM.
I found out that you can also use the code in the freewebs paragraph editor.

Anyway, i will upload the screens as soon as possible

[Pine]

I don't mean to sound paranoid...but...

Darkmage, are you sure it's not just a coincidence?
I mean, Mena with pokemon white...
Now Sharpedo (no offence) has an area name (Aureos) that seems very close to Auroris, the area in my versions...

[DarkMage31]

Once a mistake
Twice a coincidence
Three times.... a conspiracy!!!

Remember, we're a community and we build off eachothers ideas and concepts. It's not that big a deal... it's not like we're trademarking these names and logos.

[Pine]

Yes, I know, but (I've taken it off now but still...) I specifically said in my siggy..."Check for news on Pokemon Light White and Space Black. DO NOT use any of my ideas without my permission!" Well? I mean I know that this place is about sharing ideas but don't they all also say that you should give credit where credit it due (given that some of my ideas were borrowed)? Don't they?

Also, how do you know that I'm not planning big (but still legal, there's still a LOT I can do that's still legal...) things with Light White and Space Black?

And if this whole coincidence-conspiracy thing you said is correct, darkmage, could you please help me learn to use RM2K, so nobody will be able to use anything similar to my stuff? Mena said that there shouldn't be a problem of confusion between our White Versions, but only because I'm from hacks and he's from this area...

[DarkMage31]

I totally lost you with that last bit. I think it's only coincidence. After all, it's at 2, with Mena and the Auroris whatever name. If there's a third "coincidence," then you know it's a conspiracy. lol, XD.

[Pine]

...Okay, it may be a coincidence, but please, don't laugh at it. I mean really. I still would like to help prevent these coincidences by learning more about RM2K, and besides there are some things in Light White and Space Black that I'm doubting I would be able to do with hack programs...

[katty]

Thats wonderful sharpedo, are you making this as a rom? Good luck with it and be patient too.

[Berserk]

Thats wonderful sharpedo, are you making this as a rom? Good luck with it and be patient too.

This is an RM2K game. Not rom. Anyway, people can make mistakes.
Plus, you seem like a nice person.

...Okay, it may be a coincidence, but please, don't laugh at it.

No-one will laugh at you. Anybody can make mistakes and get confused at times.

[Pine]

.....No...you don't get it...I said that because Darkmage was taking me WAY less than seriously about what I was saying. The part where I mentioned confusion, well...Mena had started making a RM2K, called Pokemon White. However, I was working on a hack called Pokemon Light White and Space Black. I was a little worried because we both had a 'white' game. I just wanted to make sure that mine stays original, especially since I have some plans for LW & SB...(one of the things that darkmage apparently doesn't take me seriously on)...plans that are bigger than for White...and probably every hack, rom and RM2K on the site...(But still legal :P )

[Sharpedo]

Ok, could we go back on-topic please?

EDIT: i have my website up and running and i have the 3 brandnew screens online, so don't hesitate to visit my site....

Sharpedo.

[Pine]

I'll get back on topic, but only after the problem is solved. Otherwise it's like climbing a hill and jumping off a cliff to get down, rather than going down the other side of the hill.

(Also, I looked at your site and Sharpedo is already copyrighted by Nintendo)

[DarkMage31]

Sorry if I sounded like I wasn't taking you seriously. What I say isn't what I always mean, unfortunately. Believe me when I say I understand how you feel about people taking your ideas. However, there are a few things I'd like to say.

1) No one knows your idea yet. Just because Mena named his game Pokémon White doesn't mean your killer idea is stolen. In fact, I heard of Mena's game before I heard of yours. Although this doesn't mean you stole the idea, people come up with similar ideas all the time! Just keep remembering the expression "Great Minds Think Alike."

2) Know thyself. Reach for the stars, but keep your feet on the ground. Go for this killer idea, but don't reach too far, or you'll only end up dissapointing yourself if you fail.

3) What can you do if someone steals your idea? Sue them? The most you can do is put your name all over your project and your resources so people have to make a great effort to copy you. However, ideas are copied all the time. Look at any industry invention. Maybe a year after it was invented (and patented) another company takes the same idea and uses a different technology to recreate it (to void the patent). There's nothing the original company can do. It's just a fact of life in a capitalist society- we build on eachothers' ideas and try to make more money then the next man ;). I understand you not wanting people to use your idea. It's perfectly normal. But if it is the killer idea you claim it to be, there's quite honestly nothing you can do but request/require people not steal the ideas by taking advantage of the Internet Privacy Act signed by Bill Clinton (1999, I think?). But again, people will try to void this virtual "patent" by building on your idea.

So unfortunately, there's nothing you, me, or learning RM2K can do for you or any of the rest of us. I look at a game better than my own, and I strive to make it as good. It's that same concept. My advice is don't fight it. Go with it. Liscense it under the GNU liscense. It's this reasoning that persuaded Meerkat and I to freely distribute the battle system- people won't steal it if they can get it legally.

Sorry, Pine. There's nothing else I can say. :(

Back on topic:

Cool site!

[Pine]

Okay. Thanks darkmage. Seeya.

[DarkMage31]

Remember, I'm not trying to discourage you or anything. Just giving you some words of wisdom and insight ;) Good luck with your idea, and don't get hung up on others :D

Anyway, time to comment on the first three screens:
1) I don't see any problems
2) There should be some kind of edge to the dock where it touches the water. Also, your text overlaps on the custom message system a little.
3) This looks like RM2K3Kids CBS (which isn't a bad thing, mind you ;)). It also struck me that you're using a lot of his graphics. (again, an excellent thing ;)) But you'd best ask him if in fact you are using his resources.

[Sharpedo]

Yes, you're right, but remember that is an early stage screen, so at any moment i could change it....

[Mudkip84]

@ Mewther: I'm busy making the maps, so it will take time to release a beta, because i'm going t code some things (Textbox, CBS etc.) and it needs time ;)

I Think i`m Quoting the wrong post but Who cares?!

Put All 9 starters If you can!
You don`t have to, Just to make it A bit more intresting

[Sharpedo]

Hello everyone,

It has been a while since you last heard of me.
You all have to know, that i DIDN'T abandon the process of making Sun/Rain.

It's processing rather well. It need to code the events.

This is what you can expect in the first beta:
-Explore the Isle Milton (The first half)
-rm2k3 DBS

[PKMN_Sage]

Sounds cool! Keep it up!

BTW, when will the beta be released?

[Berserk]

Glad to hear that, Sharpedo!
I'll be waiting for the beta!

[Sharpedo]

==========BIG UPDATE==========

Allright, it's been a while

I've released a short, technical demo of Sun version
I'm using the DBS of rm2k3, which is very basic, sometimes you get alot of exp., but you'll have to see for yourself.

Anyway..you can get it here: http://projects.lateralshift.net/pksunrain

It's the new website of Sun/Rain. It features some screens of the game and the technical demo.

Have fun,

Sharpedo

[PKMN_Sage]

Wow, 2 demos released on the same day? It must be my birthday... or not. Anyways, I'll be playin yours soon. :)

[Krazy_Meerkat]

Well your game was... alright i suppose.. Bad choice of music for some towns.. Gameplay could be improved.. I didn't really like the battle system (although it was a good adaptation) And I couldn't understand why you didn't use the group battle system if you had all the files in your folders..

[Sharpedo]

Krazy_meerkat.

1) I didn't use it, because i found it difficult to understand (and i didn't have much because of school), but now i have vacation, so i'm gonna read the basics of the batle sys.
2) What could be improved in the gameplay?
3) Most of the town songs are from rm2k3. I'm going to use more pokémonesque songs for the game.
4) It's only a technical demo, so it can change at any time.

Thanks for your criticism, though;) I appreciate it. That helps me to improve the game.

[Berserk]

Well, you can get the hero to do certain tasks;
which I don't see much of in the game.
I'll post again later.

[Sharpedo]

It's only a tech demo. And it has to fullfill the task to beat the trainer on route 201. Later when a real (and i hope improved) demo comes out. It will do more tasks.

[Krazy_Meerkat]

Ok at about azelea town, the people just stop talking. They don't do anything....
Umm... You can see the sea while walking near the edge of the maps.. just make it trees or something..

[Sharpedo]

Yeah, i know. I'm working on a new demo with improved maps. Milton Isle is not one map, but multiple maps. The graphics will be improved to FR/LG graphics.

[Berserk]

That's good to hear. People like me will like it a lot more if you
do that.

[Sharpedo]

I´m glad to hear that daegon. I´m going to learn the basics of the groups battlesys while on vacation.

[Krazy_Meerkat]

On the newest battle system, I have included a test map which has events for things which you may want to do.. Like battling, naming pokemon, healing.. Maybe buying items later..

[Sharpedo]

I've posted new screens on my site of the upcoming demo. Some of them have problem with stripes through the screens, but i'll fix those problems.

Enjoy,

Sharpedo

[Sharpedo]

I have 3 new screenshots of the game....

Here they are as attachments..

[Sharpedo]

I've got 2 new screens. I'm planning to make very advanced use of the DBS while learing the CBS of Krazy_meerkat...At least i will use it in the demo.

[Berserk]

Well, the map screen and the intro look really good!
Looking forward to how you use the DBS in your demo.

[Sharpedo]

Thnx. I hope i've made some improvements from the tech demo. I've been working hard on it.

About the starters: If you play Sun version, then you'll receive a Solrock, that was abandoned by it's trainer and if you play Rain, then you'll receive a Lunatone that was abandoned by it's trainer.

[Sharpedo]

I've got 2 new battle screens. Click on the attachments below...

Enjoy and feel free to post commets ;)

Sharpedo.

[Berserk]

Nice screens! Aren't you going to use the group project's battle system?

[Sharpedo]

yeah of course i'm going to use it, but first i want to try make a very advanced DBS

[Berserk]

Advanced DBS? This seems quite interesting. I'm awaiting the public's reaction.

[Sharpedo]

Or at least i'm trying to expand it much as possible ;)

[Sharpedo]

I've got 5 new screens for you to watch..

Enjoy,

BTW: I'm going to use the group battlesys..That means that i will take more time before releasing a demo. And if a demo is released, don't expect to catch any Pokémon, than the one you receive. It contains only pokémon's that you can battle, but anyway here are the screens as attachments...

Enjoy them ;)

Sharpedo.

[Berserk]

Nice screens? Are you using the defalut shop system from Rm2K?

[Sharpedo]

Yeah. It seems complete to me and i think that the shop isn't the most important thing in the whole game, so why hesitate to use it? Anyway i'm making the events now and soon i'm going to start with the CBS of you guys. You'll receive credit in my game.

[Sharpedo]

I've added a poll, so i know if i'm processing well or not..And please...Be honest..

And i have a screen up of the CBS vs. Ledyba...

[Berserk]

Well, I like how you implemented the CBS into your game!
The fonts are messed up though. (w)

[Sharpedo]

Yeah thanks. I'm going to rip the girl back from Ru/Sa and then add another page with the same codes, but with the back of girl. I will change the font though.

[Berserk]

Great to hear about how much you're putting into this! Hoping to see
a great piece of work!

[PKMN_Sage]

I like how this game is coming along. Hope to see a demo released soon! :)

[Pine]

I can't seem to be able to get Rm2k3...when I go to rmdownloads.com (where I usually get that stuff), it says file not found! Is there another good place I can get it?

[PKMN_Sage]

Although I don't have a link to give you, I just wanted to ask you to please don't ask things like that in another person's thread. It's kind of rude, you know? You should go to the Help and Request thread.

[Berserk]

PKMN_Sage is right. Anyway, check on google for more info about RM2K3
and a download link.

[Pine]

...sorry...

and I checked google...it wasn't very much help. Do you honestly think I'd ask for it if I hadn't checked first?

[Brittany]

Pine, I was gonna PM u, but it says u have the max amount of messages.
Anyways, if you have AIM, I can send it to u via AIM

[Pine]

Oh...sorry. I'll clean out my box...just a sec...

[Berserk]

Sorry Pine. Most people I've met don't look before they post.
Sorry for being rude.

[Pine]

It's okay. I'm used to having people like that in my threads too.

[Sharpedo]

Can we go back ontopic now?

[Berserk]

Sorry about that Sharpedo. I'm messing up all day.
*back on topic*

[Sharpedo]

I've thought a storyline out. Let me know what you think about it.... Ok here it is..: Prof. Birch made a new discovery on the ground of evolution. He has got a special Pokéblock from Prof. Francis that can evolve your Pokémon right away, without levelling up. Example: You have a Dratini, right? Using the Pokéblock on him, will cause that he instantly becomes Dragonite. A sinister team, wants to have the Pokéblock and kidnap Prof. Francis in order to get the secret formula to blend the berry that is used for making it. From there on you'll be on your quest to save the world from disasters that those team may cause if evolving all Pokémon in one time....

You'll start in Littleroot Town and in order to get in Aureos, you'll need to aquire 4 badges. The real storyline will begin in Aureos.

Well i hope it's a decent storyline. Post your comments here in the forum,

Sharpedo.

[Avatar]

Sounds pretty cool, you should definately use it, it's something original ;)

[PKMN_Sage]

I agree, it sound really interesting. So the special Pokeblock would evolve it to it's fully evolved form?

[Barry]

Sounds really good. You know what, you should really take your time on this to maximize the quality of what you are making. Don't listen to people rushing you. Good luck with your game =D

Edit to post below: I was just adding that so he never feels rushed or so in the future when people would possibly try to hurry him up that he be prepared to ignore their feeble requests.

[Dawson]

nobody was rushing him. The story sounds great by the way!

[Sharpedo]

Thanks for the comments. It has give me new hope on continuing these games. Anyway i have a few new screens up.

Enjoy them,

Sharpedo

[DarkMage31]

Wait, you're using the group project CBS, right?

The screens look good at a glance. Nothing complicated enough to give you feedback. So... I guess they're perfect ;) Of course I'm sure some would beg to differ, but I like them :)

[Berserk]

Well, I think you've done a very good job of making this game.

[Krazy_Meerkat]

MADNESS!!! People know how to use it! :D:D:D
Hey sharpedo, I like the look of your game. How long 'till the demo comes out?
I wanna play it :)

[Berserk]

I feel the same way as Meerkat. This game looks very and I mean very promising.
I wish that RM2K3 had resolution changing abilities and be able to zoom into the screen.

[Avatar]

I feel the same way as Meerkat. This game looks very and I mean very promising.
I wish that RM2K3 had resolution changing abilities and be able to zoom into the screen.

I think 320x240 is a pretty good resolution for Pokemon games :confused:

[Berserk]

I think everyone will agree on that.

[DarkMage31]

Yeah, I agree :) Anything larger would demand more detail, which isn't good for pkmn

[Sharpedo]

Hello everyone,

I'm leaving for summer holiday for 2 weeks, so i won't update that much (I'm using my fathers laptop and it has rm2k3 on it too...). I'm leaving tommorow and coming back at August 23.

Happy holiday to everyone and i hope i will update soon.

Sharpedo,

[DarkMage31]

See you soon Sharpedo! You might want to post in the "Leave of Abscense" thread in Other Chat.

[PKMN_Sage]

Hello everyone,

I'm leaving for summer holiday for 2 weeks, so i won't update that much (I'm using my fathers laptop and it has rm2k3 on it too...). I'm leaving tommorow and coming back at August 23.

Happy holiday to everyone and i hope i will update soon.

Sharpedo,

At least progress will be made. Have a great summer Sharpedo!