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Electroshock
June 14th, 2007, 11:17 PM
Everyone should agree, its dead. No one is around anymore. 5 maybe 6 people are still posting. Or trying to. What can we do to jumpstart the section again?

Đ a r κ
June 15th, 2007, 12:03 AM
Well, since alot of people have different interests and different styles of RP's; maby if we all bring our idea's into one whole RP that contains something that everyone would like, more people might be attracted to it. Then again, there are people who wouldn't commit to rping as much as they could.

Scales
June 15th, 2007, 12:09 AM
Well of course I would just recommend to everyone to actualy commit to roleplays. Just ask around for people to join roleplays and even create them yourselves. Because if no one wants to jumpstart the RP section we cant force it

22sa
June 15th, 2007, 12:25 AM
I suppose the people who have been a part of successful RPs before should answer.

As far as I'm concerned, you'll need a like-minded partner to have lots of activity.

Some RPs are also too hard and lack relevance to actual PC problems. They don't get in the way though, since one RP doesn't necessarily stop another.

parallelzero
June 15th, 2007, 12:41 AM
I'm pretty sure I've already said this about a million times over the last few weeks, but the RP section is ALWAYS dead around this time of the year, and it has been like this since I started RPing a few years ago. It's the end of school and the beginning of summer for many, so people are busy as heck. I for one am being killed by final projects, and I have exams coming up next week, and then I'm going to Europe. People are just busy, it'll pick up soon.

Electroshock
June 15th, 2007, 01:19 AM
I'm pretty sure I've already said this about a million times over the last few weeks, but the RP section is ALWAYS dead around this time of the year, and it has been like this since I started RPing a few years ago. It's the end of school and the beginning of summer for many, so people are busy as heck. I for one am being killed by final projects, and I have exams coming up next week, and then I'm going to Europe. People are just busy, it'll pick up soon.


Well I dont remember it being like this last year tahts why I asked. It just seemed like when the DBE's started poping up everywhere is when it seemed like it died.

Loki
June 15th, 2007, 02:06 AM
I can't say I personally remember much about last year's RP section, but I can say that this is about as dead as I've ever seen the RP section.

I know it's a little bigheaded, but I don't personally feel motivated to visit this section anymore, because I know there's nothing new. There's never any new posts, there's never any threads that need to be accepted or declined, and really, I think the RP section isn't dead, it's at a standstill.

I can't agree with Davi-kun when he says it's due to finals, because I know that we're not all doing finals, and we're not all doing stuff. Some people just don't visit anymore. I think the main problem is lack.

1. Of people who can RP literately.
2. Of people who can commit themselves to an RP.
3. Of people with time on their hands.

I have currently seen nobody with all three of those combinations. And those are the three things that are most important. The first one is easily solved, but you certainly CANNOT walk up to someone and say, "I feel that you are not literate, so you should go read a dictionary." How, are you going to break it to someone that they SUCK at RPing without feeling like the shoe that just got stepped in some cow dung?? <-- for lack of a better metaphor. Simile. Whatever.

The second, is based on many things. This is my biggest problem. I'll join an RP I like, one day later, "Oh god, I hate this series. *leave*" I get interested in other things, I'd rather RP those things. I think it's your personality that contributes to this. And heck, my personality is probably sitting on top of the "Too-lazy-to-post" throne.

The third is something that just can't be helped. It's real life, and real life, is more important then internet life. (I'm contradicting my own opinion, isn't that fun?)

I can write an entire essay on this, and still not think of a solution.

But my main opinion on the reason for this drought:

Same as Randall's. Not enough members who actually RP. And the people like me who are really picky about who they RP with. I've got maybe six people who sign up, and most likely, I'm going to accept one out of the six. It just doesn't work that way.

Igiko
June 15th, 2007, 02:27 AM
Wellz~

I know I stopped because of everything that Jyukai said. People who just can't roleplay are boring, and hard to follow most of the time. Yeah, people do sign up, make their nooby first post and disappear from the thread. I don't see why people can't MAKE time for something the committed themselves to, but I guess there's nothing we can do about it. Now that the DBA's are pretty much over-with, Ive been noticing more new kinds around. Maybe that also means more people who know how to roleplay will come to.

Certain threads have down-time, like Other Chat is getting quiet(I think it's starting back up again though), it's just Roleplaying's turn.

Ullion
June 15th, 2007, 02:29 AM
I'd have to agree with y'all on some of these things. I mean.. I fit into all of the catagories... x_x I lose motivation so easily, I am running into exams (or finals, w/e) and, I get the vibe from other people that I can't RP literally. xD;

Well... maybe we could organize an RP that contains one thing that us active RPers like the most.. and make one big (and hopefully), good RP that will hopefully kick this forum into livelyness?

Loki
June 15th, 2007, 03:09 AM
I'd have to agree with y'all on some of these things. I mean.. I fit into all of the catagories... x_x I lose motivation so easily, I am running into exams (or finals, w/e) and, I get the vibe from other people that I can't RP literally. xD;

Well... maybe we could organize an RP that contains one thing that us active RPers like the most.. and make one big (and hopefully), good RP that will hopefully kick this forum into livelyness?

...Literately... xDDDD

Noice one there.

I don't think people who can't roleplay are boring, I think they just don't know how to convey a realistic reaction. And um... that's a definite problem.

There have been so many learning RP's set up. None of them even start, and, in the end, nothing is taught. So many teaching idea's have been brought out, but every single one seems to have a flaw. It's like, a never ending cycle.

Electroshock
June 15th, 2007, 03:19 AM
I can't say I personally remember much about last year's RP section, but I can say that this is about as dead as I've ever seen the RP section.

I know it's a little bigheaded, but I don't personally feel motivated to visit this section anymore, because I know there's nothing new. There's never any new posts, there's never any threads that need to be accepted or declined, and really, I think the RP section isn't dead, it's at a standstill.

I can't agree with Davi-kun when he says it's due to finals, because I know that we're not all doing finals, and we're not all doing stuff. Some people just don't visit anymore. I think the main problem is lack.

1. Of people who can RP literately.
2. Of people who can commit themselves to an RP.
3. Of people with time on their hands.

I have currently seen nobody with all three of those combinations. And those are the three things that are most important. The first one is easily solved, but you certainly CANNOT walk up to someone and say, "I feel that you are not literate, so you should go read a dictionary." How, are you going to break it to someone that they SUCK at RPing without feeling like the shoe that just got stepped in some cow dung?? <-- for lack of a better metaphor. Simile. Whatever.

The second, is based on many things. This is my biggest problem. I'll join an RP I like, one day later, "Oh god, I hate this series. *leave*" I get interested in other things, I'd rather RP those things. I think it's your personality that contributes to this. And heck, my personality is probably sitting on top of the "Too-lazy-to-post" throne.

The third is something that just can't be helped. It's real life, and real life, is more important then internet life. (I'm contradicting my own opinion, isn't that fun?)

I can write an entire essay on this, and still not think of a solution.

But my main opinion on the reason for this drought:

Same as Randall's. Not enough members who actually RP. And the people like me who are really picky about who they RP with. I've got maybe six people who sign up, and most likely, I'm going to accept one out of the six. It just doesn't work that way.

Two of those three apply to me. I lose intrest very easy. If something is moving slow like alot of these newbie RPs do. I lose all intrest and leave. I have been RPing for about 3 years and I still get lost and can't RP correctly. I have my moments I know. But when I'm not RPing well I know it. Honestly I would like for people to tell me when I screw up. I think thats a lot of the problem. We get criticized in front of everyone and get frustrated and it doesn't really help. Maybe we could instead of telling them what they did wrong, tell them what they can do better and include what they did wrong in it so they dont feel dumb.

Now I am not one to talk because I have been there before but a lot of people leave because someone gets ignorant with them about how the screwed something up. *raises hand* TRUST ME, I know from experiance as the person who says it to them, then I go off and make the same mistake. The biggest thing we need, IMO, is a way to help people realize their mistake and help them to fix it. How, I dont know. But I'm open to ideas on it.

Pachy
June 15th, 2007, 05:49 AM
Yes I agree...I dont usually RP much beacuse the ore experienced ones tend to get all frustrated at the noobs because they messed up...
If more veteran RPers were kind and understanding to noobs then maybe RP wouldnt die...
I hate to see it die...it's sooo fun when you are RPing and haing a good time....
sometimes I think people care too much about semantics...they expect everyone's RP posts to be 'Book quality' that's what I hate...Whatever happened to the good old fashioned simple RP format that was noob friendly and allowed everyone to have fun?

Electroshock
June 15th, 2007, 06:56 AM
i know. its those kinda RPs that lasted forever. My favorite was Team X. Alana started it way back in December of 04. Lasted a long time. Over three hundred post. Thats a lot for an RP. It had a great plot even though plots back then were 5 sentences. Hers was 5 paragraphs. It was great. Those were the days. When the RP sample wasn't a HUGE deal. Now if its not 10 paragraphs you get chewed out. Is there some way we could do something like that again? Thats when the RP section was most alive.

Alter Ego
June 15th, 2007, 08:55 AM
Everyone should agree, its dead.

I prefer to call it 'not yet fully deceased'. Like Asch and Chikara said; it's just a downtime, just a more pronounced one than in the last few years.

Well... maybe we could organize an RP that contains one thing that us active RPers like the most.. and make one big (and hopefully), good RP that will hopefully kick this forum into livelyness?

Um...encompassing everyone's tastes is next to impossible without turning the plot ridiculous, really. Also, there's a strong risk of overplanning here, which - I believe - is what screwed up the teaching RP initiatives. If you strive too hard to please everyone the end result could be far too lukewarm and not really interest anyone. xP

I know it's a little bigheaded, but I don't personally feel motivated to visit this section anymore, because I know there's nothing new. There's never any new posts, there's never any threads that need to be accepted or declined, and really, I think the RP section isn't dead, it's at a standstill.

Actually, Alarayne got a new post from Mika. :3 But yeah, I get what you're saying. The section is deader (Is that even a word? Probably not, but you get my meaning) than I've ever seen it before. T_T

I can't agree with Davi-kun when he says it's due to finals, because I know that we're not all doing finals, and we're not all doing stuff. Some people just don't visit anymore. I think the main problem is lack.

1. Of people who can RP literately.
2. Of people who can commit themselves to an RP.
3. Of people with time on their hands.

I have currently seen nobody with all three of those combinations. And those are the three things that are most important.

I'm deeply hurt...

1. Yeah, I'd like to think of myself as literate.
2. Ancient Dynasty is currently about one and a half years old, I've kept it alive through that time through all means available to me and never desert an RP if there are any other active members. I'd like to think of that as commitment.
3. Let's see...during this week I've watched a total of about 100 anime episodes of Naruto and Bleach and just yesterday I actually bothered to organize the files on my computer. When I voluntarily organize my own stuff then you know that I have too much free time on my hands. xP I'm done with exams and have obtained my driver's license so I really have no firm RL commitments at the moment; I'm just plain lazy because the RP section is having a downtime. T_T

Oh, and deeply hurt to find that certain people apparently don't consider me literate and/or capable of commiting to an RP.

The first one is easily solved, but you certainly CANNOT walk up to someone and say, "I feel that you are not literate, so you should go read a dictionary." How, are you going to break it to someone that they SUCK at RPing without feeling like the shoe that just got stepped in some cow dung?? <-- for lack of a better metaphor. Simile. Whatever.

I've done something to that effect once or twice, but I was in a bad mood and I've been known to be crude anyway, so yeah. Maybe it's not the best approach.

The second, is based on many things. This is my biggest problem. I'll join an RP I like, one day later, "Oh god, I hate this series. *leave*" I get interested in other things, I'd rather RP those things. I think it's your personality that contributes to this. And heck, my personality is probably sitting on top of the "Too-lazy-to-post" throne.

Okay, now that's a trickier problem to solve. Me, I'm a procrastinator about everything except RPing so I've never really had that problem. Matters of mindset are hard to remedy, unfortunately, unless you're ready to just push yourself a little at times. x3

Same as Randall's. Not enough members who actually RP. And the people like me who are really picky about who they RP with. I've got maybe six people who sign up, and most likely, I'm going to accept one out of the six. It just doesn't work that way.

Amen on not enough RPers. As for sign-ups...well, sometimes being picky works (It has for me, although I probably just scare off illiterate people by writing ridiculously long-winded plots and rules x3) and sometimes it doesn't (I've seen good plots go to waste because the RP master really had no choice but to lower standards in order to get a workable-size cast together). I don't see anything wrong with being picky, though, as long as it's looking at the actual quality of writing rather than 'This isn't one of my RP buddies/PC friends! Declined!!! xO '.

I know I stopped because of everything that Jyukai said. People who just can't roleplay are boring, and hard to follow most of the time. Yeah, people do sign up, make their nooby first post and disappear from the thread. I don't see why people can't MAKE time for something the committed themselves to, but I guess there's nothing we can do about it. Now that the DBA's are pretty much over-with, Ive been noticing more new kinds around. Maybe that also means more people who know how to roleplay will come to.

My sentiments exactly; there's practically always time if you put your mind to making some. Be honest, people: is there anyone here who hasn't wasted any time today? The main problem is motivation, which - of course - we can't really enforce. I'm also hoping that more of the good RPers will be back. x3

Yes I agree...I dont usually RP much beacuse the ore experienced ones tend to get all frustrated at the noobs because they messed up...
If more veteran RPers were kind and understanding to noobs then maybe RP wouldnt die...
I hate to see it die...it's sooo fun when you are RPing and haing a good time....
sometimes I think people care too much about semantics...they expect everyone's RP posts to be 'Book quality' that's what I hate...Whatever happened to the good old fashioned simple RP format that was noob friendly and allowed everyone to have fun?

Uh...RPs are expected to be written in legible English and plots are expected to make at least limited sense and - again - be written in legible English; that's not the same as book quality. The only real difference between now and then is that the rules that were already in place are being more actively enforced and we have moderation to block out subpar plots that would have been deleted anyway. Of course it would be better if we didn't need to do this, but it's a fact that the section was completely out of control at the time moderation was introduced. :\

Over three hundred post. Thats a lot for an RP.

Uhh...AD has 1033 posts, not counting sign-ups and plot, after only one and a half years. Alphimega had 1850 in all before it turned out that the RP creator had plagiarized and the RP was shut down, about three months after startup. (Yeah, we were crazy, nooby and had way too much free time, but the posts by the end were ginormous. x3) A bit above 300 in four years really isn't that much. I mean, that's only something like 7 posts per month. x_O


I think the sheer amount of quotes in this post proves that I have too much free time on my hands. I've been itching to start a new RP for quite a while now (especially since this freakin' downtime just officially killed one of mine), but...well, let's face it; are there enough people actually willing and able to RP to make it worth the while? Similar lines of thought could be part of the reason for the lack of new plots that Jyukai mentioned.

But yeah, I think I've rambled enough for one post. xD

Loki
June 15th, 2007, 03:30 PM
Ack, really AE? (I actually added that last one fer you. xO *shotshotshot*) I dunno, you once mentioned something about not having any time... *shrug* And I mean, I know you can commit, and (how could I not know that you're literate?) the problem is is that you only join like, one or two RP's at once. :/ And right now, we've got one to three RP's that are being posted in. *shot*

And yes, Mii-chan told me she posted. xD; But I was kind of waiting for Kogenta, because honestly, there's nothing left for us to do except sit and wait. I mean, it's not like it'd be smart to go wandering the corridors after a G-men search, quite frankly, and looking for Mika is probably the stupidest thing on earth.

And let me re-phrase that for Randall: "300 posts is a lot for an RP... when the cast doesn't consist of Mii-chan, Kogenta, AE, ybur and Charon." xD That IS the cast in both RP's, is it not? Sometimes a good cast combination makes for a good RP.

Poketrainer: A lot of good RPer's here don't write book quality. Boook quality is where the description for the same thing will vary drastically, but still get the same point across. As far as I'm concerned, I've used, "Black" for my description of "Black" many times. I've never found the need to put, "Like an inky mass," or, "Like the dark night sky"- No. Just Black. Book quality is much different from the quality we're getting from PC RP's. Now, in the past, and probably in the future. Book-quality can be expected, but it's painfully OBVIOUS that it's not going to be recieved.

The veteran's probably get frustrated when n00bs mess up because most of those people are too stubborn to change their ways, or if they say they'll try, you look at the next post, might as well be a replica of the one that has a mistake in it. For the n00bs that successfully change their ways, no human in their right mind who has just achieved their goal would still be frustrated. Unless you had some serious issues with yourself, or that person, and that's a personal thing, not a n00by thing.

Shadowfaith
June 15th, 2007, 04:25 PM
Heh heh, never thought I would see the RPG section dead here, it was always full to the brim with RPG's XP. Well I'm back now, exams are practically over, I have one more in 10 days which I don't need to revise for. I was a bit gutted to find there were next to no RPG's to join in on ;-; I'll start one soon as I can get onto SPPF for the thread lol, it will be Digimon based though XP

parallelzero
June 15th, 2007, 09:11 PM
Another problem I've been noticing lately is lack of inspiration. I mean, EVERYTHING is starting to look the same to me. There's no diversity anymore, people are just forming plots with concepts off the top of their heads. That's why when I go to Europe at the beginning of July, I'm hoping to receive some form of inspiration

The veteran's probably get frustrated when n00bs mess up because most of those people are too stubborn to change their ways, or if they say they'll try, you look at the next post, might as well be a replica of the one that has a mistake in it. For the n00bs that successfully change their ways, no human in their right mind who has just achieved their goal would still be frustrated. Unless you had some serious issues with yourself, or that person, and that's a personal thing, not a n00by thing.
That's exactly what it is, at least in my case. I know I'm tired of telling people they have room for improvement, and they brush it off like they know better. I mean, I'm not super, but I like to think I'm capable enough that I can form a sentence properly, thus giving me the ability to write better quality posts. I know I sound arrogant, but that's just how I see things. The RPing here isn't going to get any better until the people who aren't good take the initiative to improve. Nobody starts out great.

"How'd it go!?" I asked Robert with a smile on my face as I ran up to him. Even though I was two years younger then him, I had developed a stronge friendship with him. My Umbreon ears twitched as I heard something approaching from behind me. That stupid cat was following me again"

^December 8th, 2004. That was me only a few months after I started RPing. Yeah, I know it's bad, laugh if you want, some of you are worse than that anyways.

YOU WILL NOT IMPROVE UNLESS YOU TRY TO IMPROVE. I can't emphasize that enough. And sadly, nobody has been. For some reason, even after being told off multiple times, people still don't make an attempt to improve. This has been going on for some time now, but it's been worse in earlier days. Some of the RPers here have been members for a year or two, and if you compared the skill level of their first RP post to one recently, you'd find little to no difference. But even still, I can't make people improve, nobody can. However, if the quality keeps up as horribly as it has been, things may start to get even more strict, meaning things will even deader. So, for the good of the RP section, I'd suggest most of you start putting more effort into your posts.

Sorry for the rant, but thats been on my mind for at least a year and a half now...

Shadowfaith
June 15th, 2007, 09:21 PM
I know things like this have been tried before, but why not start like a school type things where you set challenges? It takes alot of effort and dedication, but it can help if its done right. For example first challenge can be a sign=up thatnis marked by the mods and given tips on how to better it. Of course, if people fail to improve through that then I'm at a loss. Appart from self dedication to getting better in RPGing, teaching is really the only way.

Loki
June 15th, 2007, 10:30 PM
The school is actually an idea I've never seen used, only heard that it's failed in the past. But I guess the problem isn't that it failed in the past, I think the problem is the different people around. I think the first step to getting better at RPing is telling yourself, "Tarnations. Ah'm no gewd at this ahm Ah?" With a few variations on the way you say it.

But saying you suck about something with real genui-...genuinity... is that a word? Well. Whatever, you know what I mean. Saying that when you really mean it isn't exactly something we're bred and born to do.

I think a school would be fun, and I sure as heck would be able to pull of starting it up, (or letting someone else start it up ;3) but, making it work is a matter of who knows they're not good at RPing, and who doesn't. It falls on voluntary joining, and voluntary improvement.

And since we're on the subject, this has been brought up so many times. Why not... you know. Actually do something this time? xD;

Alter Ego
June 16th, 2007, 10:05 AM
Ack, really AE? (I actually added that last one fer you. xO *shotshotshot*) I dunno, you once mentioned something about not having any time... *shrug* And I mean, I know you can commit, and (how could I not know that you're literate?) the problem is is that you only join like, one or two RP's at once. :/ And right now, we've got one to three RP's that are being posted in. *shot*

Ehh...yeah, that was back when I was still staring down finals, two university entrance exams, and my driver's license practical exam. Tis' all done now. x3 As for my RP joining habits...true enough; It's a side-effect of my commitment, really. When I read plots I'm always picky because I want to make sure that it's an RP that I would be motivated to post in rain or shine and I also have my whole wordiness problem, as it really takes me about three hours to make a profile I'm really happy with; provided that I don't write a new sample. Anyways, I had to cut down on joining all new RPs until my exams were done (It was really the only way I could make enough time for studying) and after that the section was already pretty dead...so yeah, the RPs worth joining had either all started or required insider anime info I didn't have. :\
And let me re-phrase that for Randall: "300 posts is a lot for an RP... when the cast doesn't consist of Mii-chan, Kogenta, AE, ybur and Charon." xD That IS the cast in both RP's, is it not? Sometimes a good cast combination makes for a good RP.

Actually, the Alphimega cast - ones who didn't desert - was only me, Yibber, Plushie, and Fliss (although Flissie-chan has always been a pretty lazy poster xP) and AD also includes Melissa, Plushie, and BB. I dunno'...I like my RPs to have at least one new post a day at average, guess that's where all the complaints about my RPs going too fast came from. x3

The veteran's probably get frustrated when n00bs mess up because most of those people are too stubborn to change their ways, or if they say they'll try, you look at the next post, might as well be a replica of the one that has a mistake in it. For the n00bs that successfully change their ways, no human in their right mind who has just achieved their goal would still be frustrated. Unless you had some serious issues with yourself, or that person, and that's a personal thing, not a n00by thing.

Agreeing with Asch, as I've had similar experiences with certain n00blets. For some reason, RPer pride seems to be inversely proportional to RPing skill; the worse the RPer the more adverse they tend to be to any notion of improving (or even accepting that there's room for improvement) and the more hostile they tend to be towards criticism. I can't count the times I've seen people go 'I understand' when it's glaringly obvious that they don't and are just trying to brush the issue aside. People have a disturbing tendency to take criticism of their writing as a personal insult, unfortunately. :\

Yeah, I know it's bad, laugh if you want, some of you are worse than that anyways.

Actually, that post reminded me of the times when I posted beneath the limit at times...scary, but true. I wouldn't dare to laugh out of fear that someone would dig up some of those. I'd like to think that I have a reputation to preserve. xD Yeah, I think most of us have been down that road sometime; the problem is that not everyone tries to improve from there. At least your example - in all its shortness - is written legibly, which is something that not all of the current posters around here have achieved. xP

YOU WILL NOT IMPROVE UNLESS YOU TRY TO IMPROVE. I can't emphasize that enough. And sadly, nobody has been. For some reason, even after being told off multiple times, people still don't make an attempt to improve. This has been going on for some time now, but it's been worse in earlier days. Some of the RPers here have been members for a year or two, and if you compared the skill level of their first RP post to one recently, you'd find little to no difference. But even still, I can't make people improve, nobody can. However, if the quality keeps up as horribly as it has been, things may start to get even more strict, meaning things will even deader. So, for the good of the RP section, I'd suggest most of you start putting more effort into your posts.

You know, that should be a section announcement or something, because I somehow doubt that the people needing this message the most are reading it. I agree that it's a very sad thing when people who have been here for over a year are still posting at the same quality as when they started. There's got to be something wrong with the way people are doing things if a whole year doesn't make a difference. :\

I know things like this have been tried before, but why not start like a school type things where you set challenges? It takes alot of effort and dedication, but it can help if its done right. For example first challenge can be a sign=up thatnis marked by the mods and given tips on how to better it. Of course, if people fail to improve through that then I'm at a loss. Appart from self dedication to getting better in RPGing, teaching is really the only way.

I'd sign up for something like that; people usually only give feedback for failed profiles so I've never really gotten any on that front and there really isn't a place for discussing RPing yet; only plots. I've never seen this idea tried myself (only discussed), but I agree that it's about time for a new shot.

And since we're on the subject, this has been brought up so many times. Why not... you know. Actually do something this time? xD;

Didn't I say something to that effect, like...a month ago? o.O Let's face it; the RPers of PC are quite good at discussing things, but not quite as good at making them happen. xD I for one would like to see this happen, so if there's something I can do to help then lemme' know; I've got both time and intrest to spare for this. Still, it's up to you modly folks in the end, isn't it? After all, that's the simplest way of establishing who gets to give criticism and who gets to take it. :3

Mind you, we needn't promote it as 'Join here if you suck at RPing and know it.'; after all, it's basically a way to test your RPing skills, ne? Should be intresting for the experienced and the n00by alike, although of course I could just see it that way because I'm such an RPing geek. Anyways, I just realized: we've got a threadfull of ideas for this burried here somewhere, don't we? Why not dig that up and then get the planning done now that we're on an attendance downtime so that it will be ready to go when people start coming back? Just a few thoughts. :3

Chibi-chan
June 16th, 2007, 05:06 PM
I can't say I personally remember much about last year's RP section, but I can say that this is about as dead as I've ever seen the RP section.

I know it's a little bigheaded, but I don't personally feel motivated to visit this section anymore, because I know there's nothing new. There's never any new posts, there's never any threads that need to be accepted or declined, and really, I think the RP section isn't dead, it's at a standstill.

I can't agree with Davi-kun when he says it's due to finals, because I know that we're not all doing finals, and we're not all doing stuff. Some people just don't visit anymore. I think the main problem is lack.

1. Of people who can RP literately.
2. Of people who can commit themselves to an RP.
3. Of people with time on their hands.

I have currently seen nobody with all three of those combinations. And those are the three things that are most important. The first one is easily solved, but you certainly CANNOT walk up to someone and say, "I feel that you are not literate, so you should go read a dictionary." How, are you going to break it to someone that they SUCK at RPing without feeling like the shoe that just got stepped in some cow dung?? <-- for lack of a better metaphor. Simile. Whatever.

The second, is based on many things. This is my biggest problem. I'll join an RP I like, one day later, "Oh god, I hate this series. *leave*" I get interested in other things, I'd rather RP those things. I think it's your personality that contributes to this. And heck, my personality is probably sitting on top of the "Too-lazy-to-post" throne.

The third is something that just can't be helped. It's real life, and real life, is more important then internet life. (I'm contradicting my own opinion, isn't that fun?)

I can write an entire essay on this, and still not think of a solution.

But my main opinion on the reason for this drought:

Same as Randall's. Not enough members who actually RP. And the people like me who are really picky about who they RP with. I've got maybe six people who sign up, and most likely, I'm going to accept one out of the six. It just doesn't work that way.


...D: I want to RP. Really I do, badly. It's just that I have a problem with commiting to stuff and finding something that totally fits my interest...And then when something good comes up, I either feel like everyone's posting so fast or that others have lost interest and no one else is posting/ they left also and part of my RP relies on what they will post next. I hate those situations where you can't progress without a post from another person. It can throw an entire RP off. Also...Digimon and Bleach seem to be running the RP section D: Sorry but...those two can be kindof hard to get into/grasp x.x; (On my own accord, I like more school society type RPs...or more TALES RPs..) With the Pokemon RP section...there's no room! ^^; Not many new ideas there....people are occupied with plots from months ago! That's just amazing! It'd be neat to be part of something like that; especially over the summer because school doesn't get in the way. Even though being literate is a big part of RPs...does that force you to make 3-4 paragraphs a post? I just feel like it can be said in such easier methods! Other than that, if there were some fresh Pokemon RPs, I'm sure people would join them.

In short, more uncopyrighted RPs, Tales, Rps that aren't so amazingly 6 pages long that you feel overwhelmed by, and more open Pokemon RPs might get people to join...

parallelzero
June 16th, 2007, 07:56 PM
AE: n00blets? I like that term. XD. I might sticky it, I don't know. Some people probably need it at this point. The truth of the matter is that the next step will be using forum permissions, in which only members that have shown capability to post properly will be allowed to RP, which would be the death of the RP section cause that would kill off a good 80% of the active RPers. Throwing that threat out there may help.

Chibi: I'd make a Tales RP, but nobody ever wants to collaborate when I ask, plus I have no clue who'd join. XD

Loki
June 17th, 2007, 02:44 AM
Tales? What is this Tales you speak of? :O *shot*

If you're illiterate and you know it clap your hands!
If you're illiterate and you know it clap your hands!
If you're illiterate and you know it, then your words will really show it, if you're illiterate and you know it, clap your hands!

Sorry. That promo quote of AE's got that stuck in my mind.

Well then, let's pick something and WORK ON IT! YAAAH~ *thumbs up*

I vote for the school. Although, aren't most of the people posting in this thread older then myself? I practically failed my English final, but aren't we supposed to learn capitalization and grammar and spelling in school? D: Or am I just a little nerd who sits there and takes notes and collapses under pressure? I'm asking this because I was thinking of the topics that really need to be addressed.

1. Description. Because I don't even need to explain this.
2. Spelling. Because I don't need to explain this either.
3. Capitalization. If you're lazy and you know it clap your hands! *clap clap clap clap clap*

If you're lazy and you know it then your caps'll really show it and if you're lazy and you know it clap your hands.

Yes, I am bored. Yes, I have the "If You're Happy" song stuck in my head now.

Zaiku
June 17th, 2007, 03:48 AM
I guess, I would consider myself an "active" Rp'er, the last time I posted was a week ago, but I have no choice, as I need to wait for the RP master to choose what happens next. I may only be in one RP, but I'm dedicated to it. I guess that I really haven't found another Rp that would, appeal to me. Anyway I have an idea:

I'm thinking of making an RP that could attract a large audience, as it has been said, an RP that would fit everybody's interest is virtually impossible. But perhaps a community RP?

Y'know, like one that would attract people of various skill levels and interests. As there can be things ranging from all the drama stuff on soap operas, to fighting Giant monsters, to pokemon to anything. It could be like a large city community RP that would bring in an audience of more than just one specific focus. Of course not EVERYONE would join, but I think it is worth a fair shot.

Anyway, now that my idea has been "launched" time to discuss other ideas.


n00blets? I like that term. XD. I might sticky it, I don't know. Some people probably need it at this point. The truth of the matter is that the next step will be using forum permissions, in which only members that have shown capability to post properly will be allowed to RP, which would be the death of the RP section cause that would kill off a good 80% of the active RPers. Throwing that threat out there may help.



Well, if it will kill off most of the active RPers, that is bad (Obvioulsy). However, I don't see why we just can have a permission that isn't ultimately strict, but strict enough to eliminate people who write 3 words for personality and appearence and for appearence they steal some anime picture they found through google searching. I personally aren't very strict, but that is probably because my RP'ing skills are not exactly advanced, but I believe I would be considered above average; I'll just let you guys be the judge:


(From "A star in the Sky")

Zaiku flashed around as he saw Kaki being held hostage, but then Ricky and Travis had seemed to have taken care of it. Zaiku then turned his attention to the Torchic again who was charging towards him.
Zaiku smiled and stuck out his twisted spoon, from it he manifested a luster purge. It was a spectacular ball of white light that had seemed to send the Torchic into the air, from there Zaiku teleported behind him and shot a series of the attack confusion one after another, the twisted spoon was really helping. The Torchic had seemed to fall to the floor.

"Come on punks!" Zaiku shouted "Make my day!"
This had really seemed to cheese off what appeared to be a scyther. Uh-oh bad move!
Scythers were extremely versatile and they could use bug moves which were super effective against Psychic pokemon.

However Zaiku realised that he would need to find attacks Ralts can use that aren't Psychic type. Too late, Scyther had just slashed Zaiku across the stomach rapidly with a succesion of slashes. Zaiku had fallen to the ground in agony when a spark had lit up in his brain, he had manifested his emotions (As a Ralts is the "emotion" pokemon) He had been blazing with anger, and had conjured up a wicked fire punch that had burst into flames upon contact with his opponent.
"4 down, 5 to go." Zaiku announced while gripping his stomach where he had been slashed mercilessly.

Zaiku tried using recover which normally he struggled doing, but the twisted spoon had changed that, Zaiku noticed the slashes rapidly closing uo, and the blood drying away.
He then teleported to AJ.
"Dude, you don't need to put these guys in intensive care." Zaiku tried explaining, "but if you're not gonna listen to me let's just go all out now and leave 'em with max revives when we move." Zaiku struck a battle pose as more enemies closed in.


I know I quoted Clint Eastwood, but please ignore that be brutally honest, I can take criticism. Anyway, I'm going off topic, so back on topic...


I know things like this have been tried before, but why not start like a school type things where you set challenges? It takes alot of effort and dedication, but it can help if its done right. For example first challenge can be a sign=up thatnis marked by the mods and given tips on how to better it. Of course, if people fail to improve through that then I'm at a loss. Appart from self dedication to getting better in RPGing, teaching is really the only way.


Well I don't see why not. We might as well give it a try and see what happens. But as Jyukai said, we learn the basic grammer, spelling, punctuation etc at school. Maybe another thing, is that certain RPers are actually younger than most of the people here at PC and aren't capable of excellent RPing. Of course, I'm not even 13 yet so that theory may not be entirely true.

Or my most obvious answer, is to be patient, sit tight and just wait until all of the people are done with their exams and whatever. But anyone could've thought of that. XP

typeZERO
June 17th, 2007, 03:58 AM
Wow , I didn't even think it would turn out like this. The RP section , almost dead? I kinda think like some people here that it's the lack of inspiration. Same old , same old. This section used to be booming with great RPs , but if you look at it now , it's pretty much dead. Now you don't see certain people that used to post on here everyday.

Chibi-chan
June 17th, 2007, 04:11 PM
Tales? What is this Tales you speak of? :O *shot*


Tales of Symphonia! Tales of the Abyss! That stuff X3 Not sure if it's that big anymore...oh well. D:

SCHOOL RP, YAY. I love school RPs with twists, because they can be both serious and funny; there's really no certain tone to them. Or maybe, how about just bringing some good RPs that just fell flat back up? The old original ones that were awesome (b'-')b Maybe a bit complicated, but awesome none the less XD Personally...my favorite RP ever was The Third Chime (http://www.pkmncommunity.com/showthread.php?t=57006) from 2005. Why? Because it actually ended with everybody IC going, "I hope you go die somewhere and I'm leaving!" And that's how it ended; totally unexpected, yet..there was actually a complete ending!

By the way, for all of those who suck at spelling correctly, (i kno cus i am one, lol) ADVANCED POSTING COMES WITH SPELL CHECK O: Or at least when I do it...so...try advanced posting~

Pachy
June 18th, 2007, 05:34 AM
As Sora stood there before the door of light, Kyle noticed that Kairi was crying silently. He watched as she fiddled sadly with her skirt while letting the teardrops slide down her cheek and into the oblivion below them...He then noticed that they were standing on nothing and he yelped surprisedly at his own feet, which at the moment, were suspended over what seemed like an Infinite dark hole...almost as inky black as the holes that the heartless bats emerged from.
Kairi then giggled at him and he felt himself turn a dark shade of red...She then crossed over to Sora and said "Sora...Take this with you". She placed the glowing sapphire necklace into his open palm and gently closed his hand over it. "Use this to remember me by when you cross over...You will need to have me in your heart when you return if you want to come out untarnished" she said. Kairi then took Sora's face gently and pulled him down for what seemed to be an eternal kiss...
But in the distance Kyle noticed a glint of darkness blacker that the void itself, he felt it's malice as the ,what he now identified as a King Heartless Bat, swooped down on Sora and Kairi who were still locked in that neverending, blissful kiss.
Kyle drew his keyblade from it's sheath with a ring and leaped to intercept the bat in flight. His battle instinct kicked in and he quickly noticed the thing's weak point just below the seal of the Heartless on it's head. In a flash the thing was below him and above Sora and Kairi. He dived down on the thing and drove the keyblade directly into the heartless' head just as it's claws carressed Kairi's hair from missing on the first swoop. The thing screeched loudly as it died bringing Sora and Kairi out of their blissful kiss with a startled "HUH?!?!". the creature then exploded as Kyle landed softly beside them facing out towards the darkness...He then turned to them while sheathing the keyblade and said "I didn't want to spoil the moment..." as Sora and Kairi stared at him and the remains of the great batlike Heartless with awe...
This particular post was done in a rush but if you put aside the horrible punctuation and maybe some of the other errors then you will see that I'm not a terrible RP'er myself...I do admit that this isnt top quality but only because I was in such a rush I forgot to make sure it was puctuated coherently.
However...While I may be capable of typing quality I do opt for speed when running out of time...
Which brings me to my Idea....Why dont we have a not so serious RP subforum that has only 1 restriction:Replies must contain at least one complete sentence.
This would be great for all of those members out there that dont have the time or the patience to sit and type such a long post so that it meets the standards of picky veteran RP'ers....
I'm not saying that we should give up on expecting decent posts in RPs I'm just saying that if you arent willing to not be so picky about spelling and other things then just make an area for those who dont really have the time or the patience to RP seriously to use...If we do that More people will gain interest in RP any maybe it will bring more seroius RP'ers to the shrinking population.
I also notice a very n00b unfriendly attitude in many veterans...I know that there are n00bs out there who wont listen enough to try to improve themselves...but, that's no reason to treat all noobs like they cant RP at all...I've seen much arrogance, especially from the more experienced RP'ers. This attitude is the biggest reason I'm put off of RPing...Because when mistakes are made by noobs they tend to get scolded pretty hard.
If more Experienced RPers would be less frustrated by the new persons mistakes then there would be more of them. I'm not saying dont punish the noob who has had plenty of time to learn the ropes, I'm just saying that you guys should think about it before you attribute RP's occasional downfall to noobs trying to join in on the fun...

Electroshock
June 18th, 2007, 07:11 AM
Well look at all the people who have posted here. Over 10. Well enough for an RP, maybe even two. So why couldn't WE all start one? The only reason I don't try joining Asch's RP's anymore is because you either have to be caught up on Bleach or something but the only thing I am caught up on is Pokemon (obviously) and Naruto. That and he doesn't like me and I am not up to skill so he doesn't accept me. The sad thing is, his RPs are some of the best.

Shadowfaith
June 18th, 2007, 07:47 AM
All you need to do is set a challenge for the RPGers, you never know i might attract a few people who want to learn how to RPG. It only needs about two-four people to run a successful RPG school, enough so that there is allways someone around to mark entrancess. Otherwise, like Asch has been given permission to do with mine, use the RPG to whip members into shape. I gave Dai permission to use my digimon RPG in order to better the skills of the people I accepted, that way, they are RPGing, but learning at the same time, y'know.

Alter Ego
June 18th, 2007, 11:38 AM
AE: n00blets? I like that term. XD. I might sticky it, I don't know. Some people probably need it at this point. The truth of the matter is that the next step will be using forum permissions, in which only members that have shown capability to post properly will be allowed to RP, which would be the death of the RP section cause that would kill off a good 80% of the active RPers. Throwing that threat out there may help.

Yeah, a permission system would hurt activity a lot...threats ftw, I guess. :3

1. Description. Because I don't even need to explain this.
2. Spelling. Because I don't need to explain this either.
3. Capitalization. If you're lazy and you know it clap your hands! *clap clap clap clap clap*

Let's not forget grammar, paragraphing, and interaction (i.e. noticing and responding to the posts of other RPers) either; they all seem to be problematic points (Paragraphing has two simple rules and yet people are still doing it wrong T_T). And yes, technically people are supposed to learn stuff like grammar and spelling at school, but seeing as how not everyone has I guess they need a refresher, eh? :3

Zaiku flashed around as he saw Kaki being held hostage, but then Ricky and Travis had seemed to have taken care of it. Zaiku then turned his attention to the Torchic again who was charging towards him.
Zaiku smiled and stuck out his twisted spoon, from it he manifested a luster purge. It was a spectacular ball of white light that had seemed to send the Torchic into the air, from there Zaiku teleported behind him and shot a series of the attack confusion one after another, the twisted spoon was really helping. The Torchic had seemed to fall to the floor.

"Come on punks!" Zaiku shouted "Make my day!"
This had really seemed to cheese off what appeared to be a scyther. Uh-oh bad move!
Scythers were extremely versatile and they could use bug moves which were super effective against Psychic pokemon.

However Zaiku realised that he would need to find attacks Ralts can use that aren't Psychic type. Too late, Scyther had just slashed Zaiku across the stomach rapidly with a succesion of slashes. Zaiku had fallen to the ground in agony when a spark had lit up in his brain, he had manifested his emotions (As a Ralts is the "emotion" pokemon) He had been blazing with anger, and had conjured up a wicked fire punch that had burst into flames upon contact with his opponent.
"4 down, 5 to go." Zaiku announced while gripping his stomach where he had been slashed mercilessly.

Zaiku tried using recover which normally he struggled doing, but the twisted spoon had changed that, Zaiku noticed the slashes rapidly closing uo, and the blood drying away.
He then teleported to AJ.
"Dude, you don't need to put these guys in intensive care." Zaiku tried explaining, "but if you're not gonna listen to me let's just go all out now and leave 'em with max revives when we move." Zaiku struck a battle pose as more enemies closed in.

Okay, you've got some grammar issues here, such as "turned his attention to the Torchic again who was charging against him". That should be something like "turned his attention back to the torchic, who was...". You also have some weird parts in your punctuation (usually full stops wer commas should be, or vice versa), some needless repetition of Zaiku's name and some faulty paragraphing (Please just leave a full empty line between paragraphs; it's a lot neater.), and a few sentences that just look very stiff and awkward, such as "He then teleported to AJ." (Very short and blunt, and also needlessly separated from the ensuing quote) and "Scythers were extremely versatile and they could use bug moves which were super effective against Psychic pokemon." (This would make sense if you connected it to the previous sentence with a semi-colon, but alone it looks out of place).

Overall, you seem to have a decent level of detail, although to be honest I'm a bit leery-eyed about the use of Luster Purge. Unless Zaiku has some bizarre connection to Latios (which I wouldn't know since this is out of context) then there's really no justification for using such a move. Not the best, but it's passable quality.

SCHOOL RP, YAY. I love school RPs with twists, because they can be both serious and funny; there's really no certain tone to them.

Umm...I thought it was 'school' as in 'an RP where the RPers are getting taught on the side'? Mind you, a school would be a very fitting environment, and I do agree that the concept can be extended in many directions. Besides, it's been quite some time since we had a proper one in that genre.

This particular post was done in a rush but if you put aside the horrible punctuation and maybe some of the other errors then you will see that I'm not a terrible RP'er myself...I do admit that this isnt top quality but only because I was in such a rush I forgot to make sure it was puctuated coherently.

Honestly, the 'no time' excuse is pretty lame. I mean, how long does it take to press full stop or comma instead of space? Not very long. If you had just focused on proper punctuation instead of splashing triple dots left and right you would have accomplished it in about the same time and grammatically correct to boot. If you put aside all of people's errors then everyone is great, you know, so sorry but I'm not going to do that. :\ Anyway, I'm having a seriously hard time evaluating that sample since I dislike dragging core characters into RPs, especially in a shippy manner. However, even looking past that this smells slightly Gary-Stuish; I mean, it's not like beating a bat is a hard feat by any stretch of imagination, but the fact that Kyle just spotted its weakpoint straight off the bat (no pun intended)? Uh-huh...not too cool. Plus, reducing Sora and Kairi to bystanders gaping in awe at someone defeating one of the sissiest heartless in existence is just...augh, it stinks like needless self-promotion to me. :\ You've also got a pragraphing problem. Again, full one-line separation between paragraphs; it makes the whole thing a lot more readable. Finally, Kyle drew the keyblade 'with a ring'? Um...excuse me, but why would he use a ring (circular accessory usually worn on fingers) to draw it instead of his hand? There might have been 'a ringing sound' or something to that effect (although that's still a very weird sound for a keyblade to make).

Overall, I'd say yours is a bit weaker than Sephiroth+'s. Big minus for attitude; punctuation and grammar are not something to be lazy about. Sure, you don't always have the time to double-check, but you should always try to punctuate correctly. If you're in a hurry at the moment then type as far as you can, save what you've written, and finish later. The way you punctuate can completely change the contents of your writing. I'd drag out the old Dear Jack/Jill letter example, but it's pretty long. Suffice to say that wars have been started because of faulty punctuation. I kid you not. :O

Which brings me to my Idea....Why dont we have a not so serious RP subforum that has only 1 restriction:Replies must contain at least one complete sentence.
This would be great for all of those members out there that dont have the time or the patience to sit and type such a long post so that it meets the standards of picky veteran RP'ers....

Umm...if you want to write one-liners then why not just do the RPing over PM or MSN? Having such a section (while I get your idea) would sort of seem like greenlighting the kind of posting that we're hoping to discourage with these regulations. If people aren't willing or able to put in the effort required for four lines of coherent English then RPing isn't really what they're cut out for in the first place. Four lines isn't much; it really isn't.

If more Experienced RPers would be less frustrated by the new persons mistakes then there would be more of them. I'm not saying dont punish the noob who has had plenty of time to learn the ropes, I'm just saying that you guys should think about it before you attribute RP's occasional downfall to noobs trying to join in on the fun...

But n00biness is the problem here; don't confuse that with newbie RPing. N00bs don't know how to write an even close to understandable reaction to any given post, usually do irrelevant and random things, complain a lot and never listen; all of which lower the quality of an RP and reduce the incentive for experienced RPers to continue. I have nothing against newbies who honestly want to learn and improve - the kind who actually act on the advice they get - but the problem with n00bs is that they don't seem to have any intrest in posting in an even semi-literate manner and either ignore any advice they get or snap at the people giving it, which seriously makes me wonder what the heck they're doing in a writing section. Flat, emotionless, and illegible posts just aren't any fun for anyone but the writer. :\

Well look at all the people who have posted here. Over 10. Well enough for an RP, maybe even two. So why couldn't WE all start one? The only reason I don't try joining Asch's RP's anymore is because you either have to be caught up on Bleach or something but the only thing I am caught up on is Pokemon (obviously) and Naruto. That and he doesn't like me and I am not up to skill so he doesn't accept me. The sad thing is, his RPs are some of the best.

What? You're not the least bit hooked on Bleach? Shame on you. >O But yeah, the knowledge requirements for that one are pretty hefty...I didn't sign up for the same reason as I'm only at episode 90-something. Anyways, true about the sudden surge of activity. ^^ I'll probably start something within the next few days to see if as many people are actually willing to join an RP; just got to sort out these ideas in my head first. x3

All you need to do is set a challenge for the RPGers, you never know i might attract a few people who want to learn how to RPG. It only needs about two-four people to run a successful RPG school, enough so that there is allways someone around to mark entrancess. Otherwise, like Asch has been given permission to do with mine, use the RPG to whip members into shape. I gave Dai permission to use my digimon RPG in order to better the skills of the people I accepted, that way, they are RPGing, but learning at the same time, y'know.

Ohh...nice idea. I might have to copy that...as far as my teaching skills will allow, anyways. xD

Loki
June 18th, 2007, 03:05 PM
I personally like the school RP idea. I would certainly feel more comfortable telling someone how to get better at RPing with my character roleplaying as well. The "whip into shape" idea is a great idea, because if a person doesn't join the school RP, then they can get whipped other ways. *shot*

But I have a main question: Who actually wants to do a school type thing be it an RP or a regular RP that adds the school effect, and who would actually be willing to join as students who are willing to get better and listen to what their peers have to say without having a cow?

Alter Ego
June 18th, 2007, 04:15 PM
But I have a main question: Who actually wants to do a school type thing be it an RP or a regular RP that adds the school effect, and who would actually be willing to join as students who are willing to get better and listen to what their peers have to say without having a cow?

Ohhh! Me! *Waves* Although you could probably figure out/guess that much from my previous posts. n_n

parallelzero
June 18th, 2007, 07:31 PM
Okay. Here's the deal. I'll send a cookie to anyone who can make a dramatic improvement to their RPing skills in the next month. =D

@Kuraudo: I know it may seem like I do, but I don't have any personal dislike towards anyone here. I'm kind of at the point now where RPers in general are starting to annoy me greatly, so I'm beginning to become fed up with talking to them. And my RPs aren't that good, I've said that multiple times in the past. I don't know why people do.

Having a cow? Someone is making steak? Where? =o

Fallen Angel_Messiah Of Black Roses
June 18th, 2007, 08:03 PM
There was only two Rps that I've seen that were real dedicated, and I was part of one of them.

Showgan RP: 1300 Post Range
Mystics and the gems: 3600 post range, I got to be part of this and to my memory. About four people were dedicated to this RP/

Shadowfaith
June 18th, 2007, 10:06 PM
The RPG school could be like a (dare I say) Hogwarts type thing. Where you get you RPG skills marked within an RPG. Dedicate a teacher to each section of an RPG, for example: Sign up's, plot making, actual RPGing and then advance it to, Different types of character sign ups, different plots and different RPG styles. It could cover it all whilst making it a fun RPG to particapate in as well, even the ones who are in charge of the thread can join in as an RPG character, teaching other RPGers how to RPG XD

Electroshock
June 18th, 2007, 11:19 PM
Asch: It just seemed that way, sorry.

I would be VERY willing to join a school RP. I need to improve greatly and I think thats the next best thing to adopting a roleplayer. Those were a BAD idea..

Fallen Angel_Messiah Of Black Roses
June 19th, 2007, 03:10 AM
Charizard Maa is making a pokemon school type rp

Shadowfaith
June 23rd, 2007, 12:06 PM
So are we gonna get this idea underway, or is it just going to slip away into the dark abyss once more? XP

Alter Ego
June 23rd, 2007, 12:17 PM
I've been wondering the same thing...

Come on people, chop chop. Who's doing what when and how? Any ideas for actually making this work? Anyone? I'm open for whatever, but I'd prefer it if someone a bit more organized was in charge. x3

Shadowfaith
June 23rd, 2007, 12:21 PM
I think a mod is best suited for this because it will have people take more interest if someone who runs the forum were to start it. I'm willing to help in anyway possible such as plot or teacher or ideas for classes ext, but having a mod start it would be better off.

Alter Ego
June 23rd, 2007, 12:25 PM
Agreed, the spell of the fancy-coloured username never seems to fail. Guess that makes it either Asch or Jyukai, then, since those are the only two staffies who know their RPing that come to mind. :3

parallelzero
June 23rd, 2007, 06:42 PM
Don't look at me. People are either too intimidated by me, or think I'm evil, so I doubt anyone would join if I made it. XD

Shadowfaith
June 23rd, 2007, 10:28 PM
Yes they would XP At least they know you to be truthful XP

Alter Ego
June 24th, 2007, 10:58 AM
Don't look at me. People are either too intimidated by me, or think I'm evil, so I doubt anyone would join if I made it. XD

Oh come now, when was the last time you made an RP and no-one signed up? I can't seem to recall a single one. Kuraudo is a case in point; you have a reputation of making good RPs, whether you agree with it or not, and your position as a staff member gives you credentials even in the eyes of those who are new here. Besides, you're not half as scary and mean as me since you don't bite people. (You didn't see that, no you didn't. 'Cause there was nothing to see. :paranoid: ) Anyway, you're already doing something similar with Iruka's RP, ne? Not to mention that you're one of the most long-time RPers we have here. Face it: you're a natural choice for this. xD

Electroshock
June 24th, 2007, 04:41 PM
Oh come now, when was the last time you made an RP and no-one signed up? I can't seem to recall a single one. Kuraudo is a case in point; you have a reputation of making good RPs, whether you agree with it or not, and your position as a staff member gives you credentials even in the eyes of those who are new here. Besides, you're not half as scary and mean as me since you don't bite people. (You didn't see that, no you didn't. 'Cause there was nothing to see. :paranoid: ) Anyway, you're already doing something similar with Iruka's RP, ne? Not to mention that you're one of the most long-time RPers we have here. Face it: you're a natural choice for this. xD

I completly agree. The one person who would most likely not join because he knows he wouldn't make it, is me. BUT, since it is a RP to learn and any RP you make is amazing I will certainly sign up.

Loki
June 24th, 2007, 08:57 PM
(Sorry for the delay of my repsonse, I accidentally unplugged my router and went internet free for a few days before I finally figured out what was wrong. Huurrr, doesn't get much stupider then that.)

Anyway, who votes Davi-kun makes the RP?!

I do! xD

Someone else can just take over management while he's gone, or something.

I mean, I would make it myself, but, Beezhoo is so unorganized that she would just mess everything up. D: Woah. Changed tense there. That was weird. Anyway. Yeah, plots aren't not my forte, organizing RP's are even more not my forte, if that makes sense.

I nominate Iruka, AE, or Davi-kun. 8D

For obvious reasons that I need not explain. Crazy Ninja RPing skills that are crazy and freakay and like mad skillz and like, super awesome freaky alnreao;ic'a. Skillz.

Ullion
June 24th, 2007, 09:27 PM
I'd have to agree with everyone else; Asch would be the better choice. Plus, as scary as David is.... I find Bijou more intimidating. ._.

I'd most likely be one of the people to join the school, that is if I stay active long enough and try and stay devoted to staying in it. x_x

dushante
June 24th, 2007, 09:32 PM
i posted but it had to be appoved,it was a sonic rpg

Đ a r κ
June 24th, 2007, 09:46 PM
i posted but it had to be appoved,it was a sonic rpg

1) This is the wrong place to post that.
2) It either had some problems, or Jyukai just hasn't noticed it yet.
3) If your going to ask that, the best thing would most likely be to ask it over PMs.

As for the RP school; I would most definitely join, I could really use it. I too agree with Asch but if not him, I say: Alter Ego. I admit I am a little intimidated by AE but he is good at criticism, so he would be pretty good at teaching.

Electroshock
June 24th, 2007, 10:32 PM
Yeah if Asch doesn't make it, AE would be good choice.

Shadowfaith
June 25th, 2007, 03:07 PM
Heh heh, I've been gone for too long to make it, I don't even think people remember me, expecially because I got a drastic name change. I'm more than willing to help with the plot's and teaching and stuff, but like I said before, I haven't been around enough as much as I use to and I'm not a mod anymore, it's best of either a mod or a well known RPGer host it at the least.

parallelzero
June 25th, 2007, 04:49 PM
Fine, fine, I'll do it you whiny people. >o
Just, someone give me a setting and everything we want included. I'm partially studying for my math final, so gathering concepts right now is prohibited until after my exam tomorrow. XD

Shadowfaith
June 25th, 2007, 04:53 PM
Yay! M'thinking something like Hogwarts XP

Open feilds, forest nearby, a village and a few classes in a big castle like school XP

RPG within an RPG =D

Đ a r κ
June 25th, 2007, 10:38 PM
I like the idea of a Hogwarts RP. If it ends up to be a Hogwarts LRP (Learning Role Play. I know, very corny)I think we should have multiple parts. Like the books of Harry Potter like maby; [Title here] And The Key To Hope. [Title here] And Deceiving Mirror. This would also give different ppl a chance to join the LRP when we start a new shall I say; chapter.

Alter Ego
June 26th, 2007, 08:57 AM
Aww...you peoples are going to make me blush, yes you are. xD Anyways, yay for managing to bug Asch to it. Now let's get to plotting! ^0^

Umm...Iruka, did you mean Hogwarts as in building on the HP setting or in the sense that we have a kind of whacky/bizarre school type place (within any given franchise or lack thereof) with varying surroundings to faciliate other kinds of RPing than just the 'sitting in class' stuff? I'm fine either way, but personally I think we should stick to an RP world that everyone at PC would know to at least some extent, so that basically means either original setting or Pokémon. But yeah, I thought you meant incorporating the Hogwarts' spirit of the thing rather than the setting itself. Speaking of which, I think I've got something to that effect tucked away here somewhere, it's not an incredibly glorious plot of doom and I never finished it, but there might be something in it we can use. Should I try digging it up from my PM correspondence? Unless, of course, we want it to be something else than pokeys. :3

Yeah, now that I just brought it up, guess we should start with this: are we basing this on an existing franchise or coming up with an original setting? Now a franchise chosen right would save a lot of hassle with background information and such, but a purely original setting has the appeal of being open to everyone, regardless of what they have or haven't read and watched.

Loki
June 26th, 2007, 04:59 PM
I think, describing a school and stuff wouldn't be all that difficult, if we went original. Because really, all you have to do is describe the setting and such. And since this is an RP to learn in, I think we shouldn't exactly have a driving plot, because that could very easily distract people from their lessons. :/

But that's just my point of view. Like, if we had this major crisis in the school for a plot, I think a lot of people would try to go after the crisis and halfly neglect what they're supposed to be doing.

As for the setting, I agree with Iruka, that the whole thing shouldn't be just "This is classroom A, and this is classroom B", but more open in a sort of boarding school thing?

But with the more open setting, it could really help the RPer's learn how to interact with each other, because I've noticed that that is an extremely huge issue with some RPers. I mean, they have the CHEESIEST conversations. xDDDD *shot*

Ahem. Right. Well anyway. As you can see I'm not much an idea fountain. D:

Mr.Altosax
June 28th, 2007, 12:53 AM
I think a Hogwarts Learning RP would be great. It's massive, including the lake, castle, Hogsmeade, etc. If we have lots of people in it (as well as lots of mods) it would be perfect for teaching newer RPers how to play. I think that if we publicize it, we could get a lot of people in to Rping, thus jumpstarting the section. I think there's a lot of ideas we could expand on to this, but I think it would definetely help the RP section if people knew how to RP...

Though back to Hogwarts. I think that if we just had classes, it would help newer RPers learn how to interact. I think that the Hogwarts staff could actually be Rped by more experienced roleplayers, or even mods. And obviously we'd have to include little sub-plots (far short of a driving crisis, though) so it doesn't get very boring.

Scales
June 28th, 2007, 12:55 AM
I was actualy thinking of creating a hogwarts roleplay a while back. But who would moderate it? Also we can't have it to big. Or else there would be to much chaos in moderating it

Phanima
June 28th, 2007, 01:49 AM
I waited too long to post...

A Hogwarts RP wouldn't be the most beneficial choice of setting for the type of RP being currently planned. Harry Potter is a series you rather love or hate and you cannot count on the role-players here, especially those who need help, to participate in something they hate or love so much that they can't take it seriously.

As stated before, an original setting RP gives role-players who are participating, some grounds and leverage as to what the plot is about and how it evolves. However, with the RP under the incluence of role-players who are there to learn and have fun, this could easily corrupt the plot without proper moderation, thus increasing the pressure for modding throughout the RP. Whether this is a good thing or not, is ultimately up to the people who are participating.

The alternative would be a Pokemon RP, since almost (~all) members who joined this forum have had some influence with the game, show, or manga. This knowledge alone provides the background for most role-players to use in RP's, but also sets boundaries that have already been established by the people who created the franchise. However, with the forum being Pokemon-orientated, for the few role-players left on the forum, another Pokemon related RP may not spark a lot of interest. But again, this is ultimately up to the people setting it up and those participating.

Personally, I would prefer a Pokemon RP, as it was the main influence for me joining this forum, but again, that's just personal preference.

And sorry about going off track, most of the previous posters had already gotten into the stage of planning the actual RP, while I'm still discussing role-playing ethics, but nevertheless, I have submitted my opinion, and I hope in some way, whether it is big or small, that it helped.

Now, onto planning...

A school-type RP would definitely be most beneficial and efficient for educating role-players, as well as being enjoyable for those who are not so preoccupied.

No definite plot should be set in stone either, as Jyukai has said, simply because they will distract role-players during their classes and I don't think giving them detention will help their motivation to learn, not in this sense anyway. Deriving from that, I might propose some sort of challenge within each class for all those who are participating. It would allow the role-players who are learning, something to do that's fun and exciting while serving the purpose of the RP, which is to improve general RP-ing, if you have forgotten.

Also, in concerns to the size of this RP, people will be more inclined to join if they have some sort of familiarity with the people participating or the plot (or lack of one) that is being established. However, people will lose interest if there is not enough excitement or if throughout the course of the RP, it becomes too familiar with what they are accustomed to. This is a problem with role-players who sign up for every new RP that hits the threads.

So, in order to serve the greater mass, maybe multiple RP threads could be established to moderate the amount of people to each RP. So, a single RP could focus on one school with 2-5 classes while another thread could be centred around a second school of similar criteria. You could also restrict a single RP to just one class that has multiple teachers who teach different subjects, just like high school and its multiple periods. This could cover any array of topics that are lacking or needed in the role-players participating.

Unfortunately, this all dwindles down to the dedication of the people (once again) participating and moderating the RP's, and with PC's impressive record of completed RP's, this goal could be well unobtainable.

That was a little too depressing for me. Please, someone tell me that last half-sentence is false.

To sum up, I have a lot of other ideas stored from the amount of time I spent reading through this thread, but I thought this post might suffice in feeding the hungry minds of active role-players.

Loki
June 28th, 2007, 02:31 AM
1. Moderators. There's only two Moderators that I know who have any kind of right to tell people how to roleplay. :/ No offense to any other moderators I might not know and have super-awesome-pwn't-skillz in RPing, but lot's of moderators is an option we don't have. However, I absolutely see no reason as to why it's so essential to have a bolded blue, red, or steel blue name to be taken seriously. I mean really. D: Can you take someone like me seriously? SOMEONE WHO LOVES TALKING IN CAPS AND SPELLS EVERYTHING WRONG SOMETIMES JUST BECAUSE IT'S SO FRICKIN' FUN?! xDDD No.

2. I think an RP with a lot of people wouldn't be too difficult to moderate, in fact, it would be easier, that way you wouldn't have click here and there and there and here, and you wouldn't have any chance of mixing up which thread you're in. *I... do that a lot...* Thus, I can't say I like the idea of having more then one thread, but that's really a minor issue.

3. ZOYMAHGAWDNUUUUUUUUUUUUUU. DDDD: For the sake of PC's RPing section, I would certainly participate in a Pokemon School RP if it were affiliated with this thread, however, to be quite honest... I would hate it. >.<; But don't let that stop you!! If you all decide that a Pokemon RP would be good, I totally understand, because this IS the Pokecommunity! ...Poke? Well anyway. I think a Harry Potter RP would be a very bad idea.

Because then you've got to learn magic on the side, and that's another uneeded distraction. :/

4. LET'S STEAL DAVI-KUN'S SCHOOL PLOT THAT FACE PANNED TWICE, AND GET RID OF THE MURDER SITUATION THAT ALWAYS MADE IT FACEPAN no offense to your brilliant plan Davi-kun AND USE THAT! 8DDD

Igiko
June 28th, 2007, 02:45 AM
I agree with anyone who thinks that a school RP would stink a horrible stink. If a school RP goes through, it'll only be as spammy as a pool party RP, and we all hate those. Even if there's magic, don't get me wrong, magic is fun to throw at people, but it would get bland quick.

You'd run out of things to do, and let's not forget the 47 <<exaggerated sign-ups of random people you've never seen RPing before, joining just for the Hogwarts thrill.

Not a BAD idea, just BAD for the RPing section.

parallelzero
June 28th, 2007, 02:58 AM
1. Moderators. There's only two Moderators that I know who have any kind of right to tell people how to roleplay. :/ No offense to any other moderators I might not know and have super-awesome-pwn't-skillz in RPing, but lot's of moderators is an option we don't have. However, I absolutely see no reason as to why it's so essential to have a bolded blue, red, or steel blue name to be taken seriously. I mean really. D: Can you take someone like me seriously? SOMEONE WHO LOVES TALKING IN CAPS AND SPELLS EVERYTHING WRONG SOMETIMES JUST BECAUSE IT'S SO FRICKIN' FUN?! xDDD No.

2. I think an RP with a lot of people wouldn't be too difficult to moderate, in fact, it would be easier, that way you wouldn't have click here and there and there and here, and you wouldn't have any chance of mixing up which thread you're in. *I... do that a lot...* Thus, I can't say I like the idea of having more then one thread, but that's really a minor issue.

3. ZOYMAHGAWDNUUUUUUUUUUUUUU. DDDD: For the sake of PC's RPing section, I would certainly participate in a Pokemon School RP if it were affiliated with this thread, however, to be quite honest... I would hate it. >.<; But don't let that stop you!! If you all decide that a Pokemon RP would be good, I totally understand, because this IS the Pokecommunity! ...Poke? Well anyway. I think a Harry Potter RP would be a very bad idea.

Because then you've got to learn magic on the side, and that's another uneeded distraction. :/

4. LET'S STEAL DAVI-KUN'S SCHOOL PLOT THAT FACE PANNED TWICE, AND GET RID OF THE MURDER SITUATION THAT ALWAYS MADE IT FACEPAN no offense to your brilliant plan Davi-kun AND USE THAT! 8DDD

3) Yeah, I... wouldn't participate. Partially because I'm getting tired of Pokemon, and partially because they always feel repetitive to me...

4) The concept made it die? No, no that isn't it at all. People joining and then not posting is what made it die both times. Besides, you're one to talk. When was the last time YOU had a successful RP? XD

Loki
June 28th, 2007, 03:06 AM
Excuse me, I'm running a very successful RP right now thank you very much. >O Now kindly, if you've anything more to say about my success RP-making-wise, take it to MSN mister. >OO

With the concept of pokemon, it's like, there's always a same element in it. Always. So when the same element shows up in an RP over and over again, I suppose it grows old and worn out. ^^;

Chibi-chan
June 28th, 2007, 03:11 AM
You know? Since when has there been an RP that hasn't been private where only a 'select few' can try to join? Come on; people have ALWAYS been able to join an RP, because it's advertised here that people just want to join it more. Not everyone's taste can be satisfied. Some people like RPs with thick plots, some like RPs that are simple. You can't please everyone. I don't see how planning an RP here will change the atmosphere of the RP itself. People have always been able to make OOC threads in the Lounge, right? If you want to help other RPers, why not just put the advice in the OOC thread? Anyone could have done that before, and I'm sure that many others would prefer that than an RP clogged with OOC: This was rushed srry. OOC: Actually, you could do better on [insert 2 paragraphs here]. It just...jumbles the RP and makes the feeling and flow of it weaken if you know what I mean.

In short; I think an RP should just be made like every other RP. There have been Hogwarts RPs. There have been other school RPs. I don't think this RP will be any different unless dedicated people join the RP. Just dedicated people make a successful RP. Help for the RP should be in another OOC thread so people can nitpick there and others can maybe post their part in the RP there first for someone to review it if they don't think it's good enough to post in the actual RP. All I really want is an organized productive RP; that's really the only need we have here I think.

Alter Ego
June 28th, 2007, 08:47 AM
Aww...there's so much anti-pokémon sentiment. Am I the only weirdo here to still not have grown out of it at my age? What am I, Peter freakin' Pan? xD

Anyways, on the driving plot thing; I really don't see why a lesson in RPing has to be equivalent to RPing a lesson. I mean, a crisis could be used as an opportunity to practice problem solving creativity, reaction to plot twists, ability to RP other situations than just casual conversation or suchlike, and just plain creativity. See beyond the obvious, folks; just because it doesn't have 'lesson' stamped on it with big, capital letters it doesn't mean it can't be a lesson. Doing everything as formal lessons might get a bit too repetitive. But yeah, I do see Chikara's issue with school type RPs. Off the top of my head, RPer clustering (I.e. everyone only interacting in their own little RPer groups (Typically of people in relatively close time zones)) and time distortions (Someone RPing Monday afternoon while the other is still trudging through last Saturday for instance) are two nasty issues that need a strong RP master to be countered.

Also, following up on Chibi-chan's comment, lemme' throw a less grand idea out there: how about we forget about making one 'uber teaching RP of DOOM' (tm) and do it a bit more small-scale? I mean, how about deciding on a group of RPers qualified to teach, then set up a thread where anyone starting up an RP can ask for a teacher type person to follow it and give comments and criticism on people's performrance (In lieu with what's happening in Iruka's RP already)? Of course, the C & C would be given in an OOC thread so it wouldn't clutter up the RP itself. That way, the teaching initiative wouldn't be hinged on the success of any individual plot (which is always a toss up) and thus might have a better chance of succeeding. Just a thought since it seems like most RPers here are a-okay with having someone gawking over their shoulder and pointing out their faults at this point. :3

Shadowfaith
June 28th, 2007, 10:17 AM
The plan I had wasn't a hogwarts RPG XP More like a school that teaches the basics of RPGing, so that people have a chance to realistically role play but at the same time learn. Which is where having the 'different people to teach different classes' came in.

If you were looking at having a lot of people join then you could allways split them up, I'm afraid to say but it would be split into something like:

Year 7 - those who need quite a lot of help.
Year 8 - Those who don't need as much help.
Teachers: Those who are deamed good enough to lead a class.

What I'm saying is, people would have to be prepared to find out how much help they need, in the end this idea is suppose to HELP those who think they NEED help.

Phanima
June 28th, 2007, 11:45 AM
So the tasks are split then?

There's the school idea, where those who think they need help, can be helped directly in the RP under the moderation of more experienced role-players, and thus creating a techer-student + education theme of a plot.

Then there's the freelance method, where OOC threads are made to discuss an RP indirectly, and where assigned assitants-of-sorts give advice and help when a problem arises, kind of like a personal spellchecker, except he/she moderates people's posts and offers advice and the like.

Are these general assumptions right? Or am I completely off the ball now?

Loki
June 28th, 2007, 07:06 PM
Aww...there's so much anti-pokémon sentiment. Am I the only weirdo here to still not have grown out of it at my age? What am I, Peter freakin' Pan? xD

LULWTFPETERPAN. Right. Ahem. I haven't like, grown out of it, I just kind of lost my interest. I wouldn't be the person to say, "omg, pkmn iz so st00pd."

Year 7 - those who need quite a lot of help.
Year 8 - Those who don't need as much help.
Teachers: Those who are deamed good enough to lead a class.

I loveth that idea. But I'm afraid that someone'll get mad if we stick 'em in Year 7 when they thought they would be a teacher... Or something like that. >.<;

Chibi-chan
June 28th, 2007, 07:15 PM
I love that idea. But I'm afraid that someone'll get mad if we stick 'em in Year 7 when they thought they would be a teacher... Or something like that. >.<;

Whoever takes an RP that seriously I feel bad for; especially in a learning RP :| If that happens, I'm sure they could fit their character to match the mood they're in; maybe someone rebellious or something. :P I love the idea of it though! Everything would be so much more organized~

Scarlet Weather
June 28th, 2007, 11:13 PM
Attention Roleplayers! ACC is actually posting here!

Um... the big question I'm asking is "Who in the name of all that is not sacred is going to judge who goes where?" Pardon me if I missed someone else asking that question and getting a nice answer, but I'm fairly sure we'd need to scour the entire roleplaying section and have contests and such to decide just who everyone agrees is worthy enough to judge their sklizz. I mean, take someone like me, for instance. I know that I'm probably about an eighth-year roleplayer in terms of my level, but that's my own asessment. Say (hypothetically) that Jyukai thinks I'm actually about teacher level and Asch thinks I should spend some time in seventh year. Who am I to believe? Disagreements like that would kind of make it a problem to decide who goes where.

Scales
June 28th, 2007, 11:37 PM
Attention Roleplayers! ACC is actually posting here!

Um... the big question I'm asking is "Who in the name of all that is not sacred is going to judge who goes where?" Pardon me if I missed someone else asking that question and getting a nice answer, but I'm fairly sure we'd need to scour the entire roleplaying section and have contests and such to decide just who everyone agrees is worthy enough to judge their sklizz. I mean, take someone like me, for instance. I know that I'm probably about an eighth-year roleplayer in terms of my level, but that's my own asessment. Say (hypothetically) that Jyukai thinks I'm actually about teacher level and Asch thinks I should spend some time in seventh year. Who am I to believe? Disagreements like that would kind of make it a problem to decide who goes where.

Well I think that all the most dedicated roleplayers here should nominate people for teaching on the basis of how original they are and how they actually roleplay. Then when we have up to at least 5 teachers then they can place people who join into years. I would have to say that teachers should accept people on their activity and not their sheets. Since sheets can be edited. While activity takes a while longer

Anyway I would of course be okay with any year. Since it just means how much work you need and how much more you can improve. Since summer has started I think that we are going to see more activity in this forum

Mr.Altosax
June 29th, 2007, 01:58 AM
Yeah...looking back Hogwarts was a generally bad idea. The idea I think was good, just not the plot. A giant Pokemon School type thing would be much better, it would just use pokemon instead of magic.

I actually think it's pretty easy to tell who makes it into what category is pretty easy. Those who have bad grammar, short un-descriptive posts go into "7th year". While guys like ACC and Jyukai are easily at Teacher Status, because they have excellent grammar. 8th would be those who have decent English and Describing skills, but not to an amazing decree of roleplaying, and seem to post shorter ...posts, instead of longer "more than 3 paragraph" ones. Then again those categories seem pretty broad, I think we should have 3 learning categories, actually.

I think the PokeRPschool would be a pretty good idea. It would have a fun, entertaining element, with the battling and interaction, and small sub-plots, while still being a teaching medium for newer RPers.

Chibi-chan
June 29th, 2007, 02:18 AM
Pokeschool? Hey, aren't we focused on this RP section? The Pokemon Rps are doing amazingly well! There's only one or two non-hot topics there and everyone else has already started and still is continuing from over a couple of months ago! I think an RP that more fits the 'Other' category that it will be in would be better.

Better yet, how about a magic school with Pokemon familiars? You can be friends and battle with them, or just have them by your side on occasion. That seems like it could fit everyone's train of thought.

parallelzero
June 29th, 2007, 02:57 AM
Attention Roleplayers! ACC is actually posting here!

Um... the big question I'm asking is "Who in the name of all that is not sacred is going to judge who goes where?" Pardon me if I missed someone else asking that question and getting a nice answer, but I'm fairly sure we'd need to scour the entire roleplaying section and have contests and such to decide just who everyone agrees is worthy enough to judge their sklizz. I mean, take someone like me, for instance. I know that I'm probably about an eighth-year roleplayer in terms of my level, but that's my own asessment. Say (hypothetically) that Jyukai thinks I'm actually about teacher level and Asch thinks I should spend some time in seventh year. Who am I to believe? Disagreements like that would kind of make it a problem to decide who goes where.

But I'd let you be a teacher. D= Problem solved. XD
Anywho, nobody can really know for sure what's best for this forum right now. No matter what we try, it's going to end up as a trial and error thing anyways. And, not to place any pressure on anyone, but I am leaving for Europe on Monday, so could we try and come to some form of conclusion before I go? XD;

Reminds me, I better go make posts in my RPs...

Scarlet Weather
June 29th, 2007, 05:24 PM
EUROPE? HOW DARE YOU GET TO GO TO EUROPE BEFORE THE ACC! THE ACC IS NOT PLEASED!

Even though you already said you were leaving in your Bleach rp....

Ok, enough playing around with all the funky forum tools. Let's talk turkey.

So, say this is a Pokeschool rp. How do we balance the teaching of RP with the actual RPing? (Pardon me if I missed this as well...)

I was thinking something like forming two separate threads. In one thread, we lay down all the rules for great roleplaying. In another thread, we actually roleplay. When someone messes up, we tell them. Or was this the plan from the beggining? I'm confused.

Or better yet, the students have to complete certain tasks set down by the teachers. Like this-

Suddenly, a beast burst from the water in front of Mary-Stu and Gary-Anne. "Eek!" both girls screamed at the same time.

The legendary wanderer, ACC, was at the girls' side in the twinkling of an eye. "Hmm... blue fins.... large, shark-like head... big, snakelike tail... yup, it's a sea serpent. But no worries, I think you two can handle it- just use what you've been taught in class."

OOC: Requirements- attack the serpent, allow your characters to struggle to defeat it, and finally overcome it in five full-length paragraphs. You may make up to three spelling errors before being penalized. As always, god-moding and powerplaying of any character besides the serpent NPC is strictly forbidden.

Yup, that was kind of weird, but I'm wondering whether or not that would be a good way to kind of "test" the students- you know, to show them that yes, it is easy to do something like this. Anyone agree with me?

Someone unidentifiable: Booooooo!!! You stink!

Alter Ego
June 29th, 2007, 05:55 PM
Or better yet, the students have to complete certain tasks set down by the teachers. Like this-

Suddenly, a beast burst from the water in front of Mary-Stu and Gary-Anne. "Eek!" both girls screamed at the same time.

The legendary wanderer, ACC, was at the girls' side in the twinkling of an eye. "Hmm... blue fins.... large, shark-like head... big, snakelike tail... yup, it's a sea serpent. But no worries, I think you two can handle it- just use what you've been taught in class."

OOC: Requirements- attack the serpent, allow your characters to struggle to defeat it, and finally overcome it in five full-length paragraphs. You may make up to three spelling errors before being penalized. As always, god-moding and powerplaying of any character besides the serpent NPC is strictly forbidden.

Lol, I could see something like that happening, actually. xD Although really, I don't see any need to have a school setting of any kind unless we feel like it. I mean, we could just have something - in an other RP vein - where the student type characters suddenly find themselves chosen for a role (possibly with some form of special power or the other to add a bit of action to the mix) and have to be prepared to carry it out accordingly. The teacher type people could then be the 'meddler' characters in the story (You know, the good guys who manipulate the protagonists for the good of all) and have the knowledge to teach them about their powers (if we choose to include any).

Anyways, I'll have to join into Asch's request for some kind of decision before Monday; you see, that's when my family (including me, of course) is heading to my grandparents' summer cottage, which - as it happens - doesn't even have electricity, let alone internet access. I won't be back until Thursday afternoon (or Friday, depends), so when I suddenly vanish from the forums you'll know why. :3

That being said, I just have to ask about the optional idea I mentioned in my last post since no-one besides Phanima really even acknowledged its existence. Comments, anyone? I don't mind if you think it's bad/not right for this, but I'd at least like someone to tell me so.

On the issue of who gets to decide on the classifications, I'll just give a simple and unfair opinion: Asch and Jyukai. I mean, they're already entrusted with deciding whether to allow RPs to continue or even appear in the first place, how big a leap of faith is it to let them handle this too? That way we can avoid a lot of needless bickering and time-consuming vote tallying. People who take offense over their classifications clearly don't have the right attitude for learning anyway; if they did then they would just take it as encouragement to work harder.

That aside, I do see Chibi-chan's point about these two sections of ours (although some of the hot topic tags might be the result of impatient people like me klicking back and forth between RPs and re-reading them while waiting for other people to post). The pokémon familiars thing...well, it's a nice enough idea, although I don't see why we need to jump on the old HP bandwagon and put them in a school (as I've already said, education doesn't need a concrete school within the RP itself). I'd only support throwing pokémon in there if they'd get some actual significance, though, as I'm not really a big fan of slapping on unnecessary franchises just for looks.

Mr.Altosax
June 29th, 2007, 06:32 PM
I kind of thought that was what we were doing ACC...But I was probably wrong because I'm clueless like that a lot. I think that ACC's idea should work, of course we'll have to spread the news so all of the Rp Hopefuls will join.

The only thing is...what's the setting/plot...We did have the pokeschool, but I think that idea died out because we don't really need the school/ this is the "other roleplay" section.

Chibi-chan
June 29th, 2007, 06:59 PM
Or better yet, the students have to complete certain tasks set down by the teachers. Like this-

[I]Suddenly, a beast burst from the water in front of Mary-Stu and Gary-Anne. "Eek!" both girls screamed at the same time.

OOC: Requirements- attack the serpent, allow your characters to struggle to defeat it, and finally overcome it in five full-length paragraphs. You may make up to three spelling errors before being penalized. As always, god-moding and powerplaying of any character besides the serpent NPC is strictly forbidden.


So, sorta like a 'give a prompt, answer a prompt RP?' I'm sorry but that doesn't seem...fun x.x This is supposed to be fun, right? ._.I can't even make five paragraphs on an RP; why put one or two superfluous sentences when one or two paragraphs can suffice? I don't get a plot out of this idea; interacting with other RPers seems like it wouldn't fit in this idea. School had some plot that could be developed from it; pokemon, magic or not :|

Loki
June 29th, 2007, 07:50 PM
Pokeschool? Hey, aren't we focused on this RP section? The Pokemon Rps are doing amazingly well! There's only one or two non-hot topics there and everyone else has already started and still is continuing from over a couple of months ago! I think an RP that more fits the 'Other' category that it will be in would be better.

Better yet, how about a magic school with Pokemon familiars? You can be friends and battle with them, or just have them by your side on occasion. That seems like it could fit everyone's train of thought.

...Isn't that the same as a Pokemon RP? o O; I don't really quite grasp what you mean by the last paragraph.

Edit-ching: Er, whoops. Looks like there were a lot more posts then I'd seen. Gimme a second! >.<;

Scales
June 29th, 2007, 08:33 PM
I would rather join a non-pokemon roleplay. I just don't feel like pokemon roleplaying. Right now I really want a magic roleplay. We could just do that roleplay school either way.

Mr.Altosax
June 29th, 2007, 08:56 PM
Well the entire reason we're saying pokemon in the first place is because this is a pokemon forum, and more people would join since they have that common ground. In reality the learning roleplay could be anything.

EDIT: I feel stupid...because I said region instead of reason.

Kogenta
June 29th, 2007, 09:25 PM
Since I only skimmed this thread, I am probably missing a few points. ^-^;; But . . .

In regard to the RPing school:
As has been mentioned, RPs with too many people may not go well since too many people are waiting for too many other people who come back, see too many posts to read, and give up. Also, the subject used in the RPing school may not be popular with everyone anyway. So, what if more than one RPing school thread were opened? Each thread could have its own teachers and students and address different topics.

Also, if people want to try an RP that is slightly different in nature, I was thinking an RP that is somewhat like this might work:
http://anime-pen-pals.livejournal.com/

EDIT: Does that last part belong in the Discussion Thread? ::not sure:: If so, please tell me, and I can move it. ^-^;;

Chibi-chan
June 29th, 2007, 09:26 PM
...Isn't that the same as a Pokemon RP? o O; I don't really quite grasp what you mean by the last paragraph.

Edit-ching: Er, whoops. Looks like there were a lot more posts then I'd seen. Gimme a second! >.<;

I dunno, an attempt at something solid. Really, if it's just going to be this complicated, I just might wait for the next simple RP to come around. :\ You can't please everyone, so I think this may take awhile...@_@

Scarlet Weather
June 29th, 2007, 09:38 PM
Kogenta: Um... how would an anime pen pals thing work with our school RP? And half the fun of the RP is creating new characters...

Mr. Altosax: Yes, this is the region of Pokemon. (Sorry, couldn't resist...)

So, sorta like a 'give a prompt, answer a prompt RP?' I'm sorry but that doesn't seem...fun x.x This is supposed to be fun, right? ._.I can't even make five paragraphs on an RP; why put one or two superfluous sentences when one or two paragraphs can suffice? I don't get a plot out of this idea; interacting with other RPers seems like it wouldn't fit in this idea. School had some plot that could be developed from it; pokemon, magic or not :|

Not really, Chibi-san. What I was really thinking was that we would RP normally, with the "teachers" telling the "students" what needed improvement, then using things like the sea serpent to test them and see if they were paying attention. After all, the purpose of this RP isn't just to have fun, it's to edumacate people. XD

(Yes, I did misspell 'educate' on purpose.)

Anyway, to hasten our decision process, I propose we have a vote. School-type, Poke-type, Chhosen One-type, or other? I mean, a vote will get things settled, right? There are whole governments based on that principal, why not use it for our forums?

Kogenta
June 29th, 2007, 09:44 PM
Kogenta: Um... how would an anime pen pals thing work with our school RP? And half the fun of the RP is creating new characters...


That was for those who said they lost interest because all the RPs started seeming the same. Er, sorry for being unclear. And some people enjoy RPing characters from anime and manga, I think. ^-^;; But maybe not.

Đ a r κ
June 29th, 2007, 09:52 PM
Well, just to put this out there, I was just thinking that for the plot of the learning RP, the plot starts off as something very normal and simple that everyone can fallow, then as each Rper begin to make longer paragraphs, use better grammer, spelling and start to get the hang of things, the plot begins to change into something huge and explosive.

ACC: PC is not a place for democracy. JK

Hm, i'd say that i'm undecided :P

Chibi-chan
June 29th, 2007, 10:13 PM
Anyway, to hasten our decision process, I propose we have a vote. School-type, Poke-type, Chhosen One-type, or other? I mean, a vote will get things settled, right?

I prefer Mecha battles
I'd like a school style RP. I'm not going to give a huge paragraph why...I just do :P

Zaiku
June 29th, 2007, 10:18 PM
Anyway, to hasten our decision process, I propose we have a vote. School-type, Poke-type, Chhosen One-type, or other? I mean, a vote will get things settled, right? There are whole governments based on that principal, why not use it for our forums?

I agree with this Idea, and ACC's previous sea serpant thing. I think it shouldn't be Pokemon themed, or any other franchise. I like the whole original theme thing, y'know like in kind of a fantasy school "LIKE" Hogwarts. (I said like Hogwarts but not anyway HP related).

THe mix between Roleplaying and learning how to Roleplay idea is also good, as it would allow people to enjoy and learn at the same time.

Mr.Altosax
June 30th, 2007, 12:27 AM
Well I feel stupid...Thanks for pointing that out to me ACC, and I wouldn't have resisted either. Back on topic...

I do think the idea of multiple learning RPs would do better than one massive one, because the teachers would have to read every post, while the newer RPers (less literate Rpers) wouldn't want to read it all and make a post that clashes with things said before (I hate when that happens). I mean, we need the best learning atmosphere we can, after all that's the whole region we're doing this! *shot!* (This time I meant to say region...)

With the teachers spread among different groups of Rpers it would me much easier to control, and fix the mistakes of the newbies (What am I saying, I've only been in one successful RP...The only Rping I did before this was on Neopets for crying out loud!).

And of course to make it even better one Learner's Rp could be Pokemon, and another can be Fantasy School (*cough* Hogwarts *cough*), and ther rest can be up to whoever else chips in ideas.

Loki
June 30th, 2007, 01:13 AM
I hope you don't mind if I decide to take an initiative in this post. (Finally, but I feel like an evil-dictator for it. Excuse my behavior, if you can.)

I say we screw voting, because that'll take just as long. I think we should take the Hogwarts-school element (non-HP-related,) and place it with the teachers and year 7 and year 8 idea. If you want more then one RP thread, tell it to David, or make one of your own so we can have more then just one. (However, if the 'teachers' are seriously some RPer's in need of help, somebody'll intervene.)

I'm not going to ask whether you all agree or not, because that rolls around another page of jibber jabber.

@AE: You mentioned a plot earlier. Is it pokemon oriented? If it is or isn't, would you mind posting it here, or sending it to David?

@David: Or we could use the plot I was talking about earlier, that would be simple, and we could just turn it into a regular RP learning roleplay.

@Chibi-chan: If you want a Mecha-RP, go make one! We need more RP's around this desolate wasteland. ;D

@ACC: I agree with Chibi-chan, a prompt give answer sounds stuffy. Because then you can't really get into it, because it's just little stories one by one. And that's more like a mini-fiction, more then an RP.

@Mr.Altosax: I probably shouldn't admit this, but before I came to PC, I'd never RPed anywhere but on Neopet's either. DD: *shot* But then there arises one problem with multiple thread. It promotes laziness among the RPer's to not read the posts. If someone is too lazy to read a bunch of posts in an RP they willingly joined, that's their problem, and we don't need to go out of our way to solve it. That's another thing that I think a lot of us need to learn. (Me in particular.) Patience to read what other people have written.

Anyway, after the next round of posts, I'll be decided what's done in the end. So if you've anything important you want to add or say, say it now.

Alter Ego
June 30th, 2007, 07:56 AM
I hope you don't mind if I decide to take an initiative in this post. (Finally, but I feel like an evil-dictator for it. Excuse my behavior, if you can.)

I say we screw voting, because that'll take just as long. I think we should take the Hogwarts-school element (non-HP-related,) and place it with the teachers and year 7 and year 8 idea. If you want more then one RP thread, tell it to David, or make one of your own so we can have more then just one. (However, if the 'teachers' are seriously some RPer's in need of help, somebody'll intervene.)

Dictator, eh? Well I didn't vote for you!

J/K, I think this is the kind of approach we need here, actually, so I'm with ya' miss dictator: screw the voting; we have money (well, no we don't, actually. But we have a mod, and that's good enough for me. xD).

@AE: You mentioned a plot earlier. Is it pokemon oriented? If it is or isn't, would you mind posting it here, or sending it to David?

Nyu, turns out that I don't have it anymore. I searched through my PM box, but it looks like the one with the plot is gone, and since my previous hard drive ate up the backup document the plot is officially gone. Sorry. >_<

@Mr.Altosax: I probably shouldn't admit this, but before I came to PC, I'd never RPed anywhere but on Neopet's either. DD: *shot*

I can top both of you, 'cause I hadn't RPed anywhere before I came to PC. xD But yeah, this is sort of irrelevant to the topic at hand, so I think I'll shut up for the moment. :3

Scales
July 1st, 2007, 10:55 PM
So now that we have a definite idea of what we are going to do. Who is going to actually make the RP?

Shadowfaith
July 3rd, 2007, 09:05 AM
Finally were settled on something. Well Dai Dai has gone now, right? So that leaves Jyukai to make it really. People will respond more when they see a mod or higher has started the thread.

Loki
July 3rd, 2007, 05:02 PM
ALLLRIIIIGHT YOU CRAZY PEEEPLEEEZZZ.

I'll make the darn thing. YOU OWE ME WHEN YOU GET BACK DAVID!!

Righty-o. So, I suppose I'm stuck writing a plot now, huh? :< FINE. I'LL MAKE THE BEST DAMN PLOT YOU CRAZY PEEPLEZ HAVE EVAR SEEN1!!

So yeah.

But I might be really busy, so I can't totally keep track of it. So I'll appoint some co-RP-masters/higher teachers. AND JOO GAI'S BETTAH DOO JER JOB.

Edit-ching: I have no idea where to start gai's. I suck at writing plots, wry am I the one who get's stuck writing it? DD:

Mr.Altosax
July 3rd, 2007, 05:18 PM
Well actually you were making it...you should get some lackey to write a plot for you, Jyukai.

Alter Ego
July 6th, 2007, 06:44 PM
I'm here again! Change everything! Now! 'Cause I say so! >O *Shot*

Yeah, exile from the internet does weird things to me, especially when it's lengthened by exhausted keyboard batteries (and of course there were no spares, so I had to wait until they charged <.<). o.o

Anyways, back to the actual topic...I'm up for helping out with the plot, so feel free to pester for comments, criticism, etc. I guess I could write one up too, provided that I get some general guidelines for what you want (you know, genre, possible franchises and so on)...oor you can just leave me to sulk in a corner and get someone else's help (or just do it yourself), your choice. ;D I'm in a plot writing mood, though, since Eseka seems to be ailing too and I had a lot of time to play around with plot ideas at my grandparents' place too. :3

Loki
July 6th, 2007, 09:10 PM
^ OMG ALTER EGO PLEZZ HALP ME. DDD:

*has nothing other then "This RP is here to help you learn, so expect criticism here."

And I only just randomly wrote that up. [/is a horrible moderator who deserves to get pushed off a cliff, but please don't do that.]

;A; Anyway, let's make a list of what we want.

-School RP
-Hogwarts Style Campus
-Teachers, Year 7, Year 8

^ Something like that guys? Feel free to add to it, and we'll see how our new plot writer likes it! 8D

[/totally did not just dump the most dreadful thing in Bijou's life onto AE. < <;]

But seriously, if you do write the plot AE... I OWE YOU FOR THE NEXT WHOLE YEAR, KKZ?!? <--- Not seriously for a year, but I owe you for a loooong time. Just not as long as a year, because I'm not about to go running around as your pet donkey for the next 12 months. DD:

...A year is 12 months right? [/shotshot]

Scales
July 7th, 2007, 12:51 AM
Jyukai: That sounds fine. It would help if people pitched in for plot writing

Another thing i am wondering about is why aren't people posting in retry. It is slowly dying of inactivity

Loki
July 7th, 2007, 06:33 AM
Jyukai: That sounds fine. It would help if people pitched in for plot writing

Another thing i am wondering about is why aren't people posting in retry. It is slowly dying of inactivity


That last question would be more suited for the Retry: Discussion thread, as not everyone in THIS thread is participating in Retry. I can tell you the obvious, that David isn't posting because he's on vacation, but for the rest of them, you'll have to ask yourself.

Scarlet Weather
July 8th, 2007, 01:32 AM
I'm not posting in retry 'cause I didn't join in the first place. [/pointless spam][/using Jyukai's newly invented fad]

Ahem... anyway.... If AE is writing the plot, I'd better write up about six different characters, 'cause it's gonna burn me bad. And the only reviewing I've ever done for a roleplay has been limited to a few Naruto rps on Neopets before I came here. (Yes, I was hakaisha-nin. And I quit for various reasons, mostly 'cause I cracked a few jokes that I don't think the guild leader liked. So I joined my best friend's guild instead, and I ended up the leader when she left, and my account got essentially frozen 'cause I can't remember what birthday I gave TNT, and... I think I'll stop now.) So yeah, this'll be new.

Hmm... maybe I should consider getting a custom avatar so I won't look quite so generic? *is shot*

Alter Ego
July 8th, 2007, 07:50 AM
Okies, I see no-one has made any amendments, so it's basically a free-form RP in the school genre as long as it features distinction between less and more experienced students and a multi-faceted campus? You know, I think I could fit this quite nicely into a setting I already have at the back of my mind, so I hope that you people don't mind a good old-fashioned magic/fantasy one, and if you do...well, you had your chance to complain. xD

First draft should be together in a day or two (Depending on how much I can keep myself from playing Spirit Caller on my spiffy new DS instead of working), so yeah; I'll post it for C & C then. Should that be done here or the Discussion Thread? Just wondering. :3

Loki
July 9th, 2007, 10:22 PM
Mmm, do it here. It's related to this, so the people who have been posting here won't have to troop on over to the discussion thread. ^^

And... Thank you very very much AE. *grovel* I'm pathetic, I know. ;A; Forgive me and my lack of determination!

Jack O'Neill
July 10th, 2007, 12:25 AM
Magic and fantasy. I still fail to comprehend why almost everyone here is enamored with anachronism. Am I the only roleplayer here who has proper reverence for the modern day?

Loki
July 10th, 2007, 03:15 AM
That was unesseccary Jack O'Neill.

If you would like to state that you wish for a modern-day RP, then please do so in the Discussion thread.


Anyway, AE, it doesn't have to be a super complex plot, it's just a learning RP, so I just thought I'd inform you of the fact that we're not all seaching for the usual AE brand five pages in word. ^^;;

Alter Ego
July 10th, 2007, 08:17 AM
Magic and fantasy. I still fail to comprehend why almost everyone here is enamored with anachronism. Am I the only roleplayer here who has proper reverence for the modern day?

Like I said: you had your chance to complain for a long time. Don't blame me if you decided to wait until the last minute (Because seriously, I'm not about to do a 100% revamp just to please you). Mind you, it's not completely medieval; just not fully modern either. :3

Anyway, AE, it doesn't have to be a super complex plot, it's just a learning RP, so I just thought I'd inform you of the fact that we're not all seaching for the usual AE brand five pages in word. ^^;;

Yeah, I realized that while I was writing, which is why I'm currently working on how much of the big setting details I should add (Because those could fill a book). It's currently at about one page of the pure introductory, will probably fill at least another once I'm done with the necessary background info. :3

Scarlet Weather
July 10th, 2007, 04:26 PM
Um... scary. And O'Neill, the reason we're enamored with the days of yore is because there's something romantic about them, something that vanished when we hit modern days and was never suitably replaced. It's also why we dream of other worlds, things that don't exist, etc. Besides, guns are inferior to swords when you're fighting zombies- no need to reload. [/randomosity spammage]

Anyway, like Jyukai said, we don't need an entire book, AE. One page might be all we really need, so don't knock yourself out unless you really feel like it.

Loki
July 10th, 2007, 04:33 PM
Um... scary. And O'Neill, the reason we're enamored with the days of yore is because there's something romantic about them, something that vanished when we hit modern days and was never suitably replaced. It's also why we dream of other worlds, things that don't exist, etc. Besides, guns are inferior to swords when you're fighting zombies- no need to reload. [/randomosity spammage]

Anyway, like Jyukai said, we don't need an entire book, AE. One page might be all we really need, so don't knock yourself out unless you really feel like it.

Mmm, that first paragraph was kind of uneeded too. In both your posts you speak very generally about the entire RPing population.

Don't.

Now if you would like to take this discussion of why YOU TWO like modern or medival, please take it to PM.

Bottom line for me: I get modern every single day of my life, so I see absolutely no reason to roleplay something that I can just watch on TV.

Alter Ego
July 11th, 2007, 10:19 AM
Now, ACC...you should know that going rabid with plot typing is what I do best. :3 And yeah, seconding Jyukai's sentiments on modernity; RPing is what I do to take a break from reality.

Anyways, after a lot of head-banging I've finally managed to put together the first plot draft and I much apologize that I couldn't trim it down to less than four pages in word altogether as I didn't want to leave people confused about the setting. Of course I'm open to downsizing suggestions, so here it is:

Plot

In the beginning there was nothing but a man, a pristine little mountain valley and loads upon loads of really old money. But as it so happens this is all it takes to make history, at least if the man is none other than King Reginald the thirteenth of Riven, an avid social climber who had moved up from twentieth to first in the royal inheritance line under the course of three months, his predecessors disappearing in a series of freak accidents ranging from leaky boats to inconvenient lighting strikes, as is customary in Riven politics.

Knowing full well the hazards faced by monarchs reigning a kingdom which went through an average of thirteen kings a year - not to mention the usefulness of having a spellcaster or three on your payroll - King Reginald decided to set up a new power in the country to help stabilize his own position: the Enchanters' Guild, an organization for assembling the fragmented community of magically skilled in the country and uniting them to educate new ones. With royal funding and enforcement, the organization quickly grew in both size and power, and with his most trusted associates in charge, the ambitious new ruler believed his position - both on the throne and in the history books - to be firmly secured, although only the latter turned out to hold true as he soon perished in a tragic meteor strike, only one week after having granted an official position of power to the first head enchanter.

The organization that Reginald had set up far outlived its creator, however, and the Enchanters' Guild soon grew to be a new leading political power in the country, as it only took two abrupt changes of rule to prove that telling hundreds of trained magicians to kindly step back and give up on their privileges wasn't a very bright idea.

But of course, even an organization as strong as the Enchanters' Guild changed with time, just as the sovereign monarchy of Riven turned republic and dagger and poison were replaced by the not quite as satisfying but far less messy practice of smear campaigns. The Guild - or rather; the Riven Academy of Thaumaturgical Science, as it is now called - remains strong to this day, however, and what they have lost in political influence they have gained in profitability. Even with the rapidly growing popularity of technology and the trendy new phenomenon of electricity in particular, enchanters - or thaumaturges, as they prefer to be called - remain a valuable asset, and with the decline in public funding, the university has taken to hiring out thaumaturges in training as problem solvers for issues both unusual and mundane, paying the students a commission based on the difficulty of the task, an arrangement of mutual benefit. After all, who would say no to miracle-working power, prestige and money?

On the setting

Riven as a whole really has three things that separate it from the world as we know it:

First, technology isn't quite as advanced; electricity is considered cutting edge (and still isn't commercially available) so obviously the conveniences related to it are out of the question. They do have indoor plumbing, though, so don't worry about that. Real life countries don't exist here, but there are others besides Riven. For simplicity's sake, they aren't listed here, though; so suffice to say that everyone is a citizen of Riven. This does not, however, mean that your character can't have originated from another region.

Second, magic exists in the world, stemming from a peculiar location usually simply called 'the Rift'. For the purpose of this RP, the only relevant fact concerning the Rift is that the only allowed form of magic is enchantment, the art of re-arranging the environment or people's perception of it. Enchantment can't create or destroy matter, only reshape it, and the effects are always temporary. Enchantment magic calls for three things:

- Imagination, to picture the change you want to make vividly in your mind. This determines the complexity of the spells you can use.

- Willpower, and the ability to believe in the changes you make to force them into reality. Lack of will leads to spells failing or misfiring and lack of belief weakens the spell's effect.

- Concentration, to maintain the changes made. This determines the duration of the desired effects.

Many spellcasters have also been known to use complicated hand signs, incantations, and suchlike, but this is usually either for a placebo effect or to put on a show for those who don't know. Also, please note that junior apprentices don't start out with the knowledge of how to use magic; they'll get to learn that as the RP progresses.

Third, there are monsters. Rumor has it that they emerged from the use rift energy, but all official sources have strictly denied this. Regardless, the fact remains that the critters are all over the place. Monsters come in many shapes, typically twisted forms of regular animals or mythical creatures. Although they apparently come in all shapes and forms, monsters in general feed on magical energy, and are naturally attracted to those who wield it. They are, however, too timid to attack larger groups of humans, hence why there usually aren't any found in the academy or the cities.

The events of the RP will take place on the academy campus and surrounding area. The campus itself is located in a verdant mountain valley in the northern part of Riven and features two three-storey dormitory buildings (one for males, one for females), and the main building where classes are held. In lieu with old practice, both dormitories have their own dining hall at the bottom floor as well as separate floors for junior and senior apprentice, while all other indoor facilities are housed in the main building - a sizable tower with various extension buildings of equally varying ages built around it. The campus also features a recreation field - for physical exercise - and a lake, constantly filled by a small mountain stream. A - largely overgrown - forest also stretches out at the eastern edge of the campus, and the surrounding mountains house a complex network of natural tunnels. Both of these areas contain monster populations, however, and as such the forest is off limits for junior apprentices without teacher escort and the tunnels are barred from everyone except faculty.

Where you come in

You - as an RPer - will be either a new student (Apprentice) at the academy or an experienced student who has recently been elevated to the Senior class. This division will be made based on an assessment of your RPing skills, so please don't try to apply for one or the other. A very select few will also RP teachers. Again, this is a choice that is made through assessment of skills, so teachers: don't call us; we'll call you.

Now, on to the reason we have such divisions: this is a school RP in more than one sense. Not only will the RP characters be trained, but you - the RPer - will also receive comments and criticism on your writing from the teacher RPers, so please be prepared for it and act on it. If you think your writing skills are beyond all criticism then go away; shoo. This RP is solely for those who want to improve their RPing, regardless of how experienced they currently are.

The Rules

1. Attitude decides. As long as you genuinely want to improve, all that is expected is legible writing in a four-line quantity to start up. However, if you continuously disregard the teachers' advice or take offense at corrections then you may well be booted out of the RP. Remember: our teachers are not paid, they are people who are taking the free time out of their lives to help you, so please respect that by making good use of what they give you. Teachers: this doesn't mean that you can flame and bash to your hearts' content; make it constructive and say it as nicely as you can. Let's see mutual manners and good atmosphere, shall we? :3

2. Follow all RP section rules. If you are new to RPing or feel unsure about the rules, please go check them right now.

3. No character control. This is very simple: no-one makes anybody else's character do anything unless the character's creator has said it's OK. NPCs (Non-Player Characters) are free game unless otherwise noted.

4. When in doubt; ask. This RP was made to help people with their RPing, so don't be shy about it. The teachers will be giving as much advice as they can, but if something is unclear or you feel that you haven't been given enough to work with then ask for help either in the OOC discussion or by PM. Also, the teachers might not always have time so you may also wish to ask the non-teacher RPers that have been deemed experienced (I.e. the ones playing the senior apprentices); just remember that they're not bound by contract to help or anything, so please make your requests politely. ^^

5. You may join once the RP has already started, but in that case please post your sign-up in the OOC discussion to avoid clutter.



Sign-up Sheet

Full Given Name:
Nicknames (Optional): (Just in case your character likes to be called something besides their real name)
Gender:
Age: (Teenage and up, please)
Appearance: (The more details, the better. Pictures are only allowed if they are your original art and even then they need to be supported by written description. Also, do remember to include the clothes as well, otherwise your character might feel a bit...awkward. The academy has no uniform, so don't hold back. At least one paragraph, please.)
Personality: (Try to include likes, dislikes, strengths, weaknesses, quirks, habits, fears, hopes, and ambitions. If you've got all that covered then you should have enough in this field already. Remember, flawed characters are loved characters. Mary-Sues and Gary-Stus will be taken outside and shot. :3)
History: (Just a general idea of your characters' life before the academy and maybe a word or two on why they chose the profession. Also, for certainly practical reasons I won't go into, the magically talented need to have lived in Riven at some point of time. It's an ethnic mish-mash, though, so origins may differ.)
Other (Optional): (Just in case there's something about your character that you didn't get to express above.)
RP Sample: (Pick a situation; any situation. Also, note that this field might just make the difference between Junior and Senior apprentice, so give it your best shot and write for all you're worth.)


So yeah, C & C maybe? Using the assignment thing is purely optional and to be used if we want it as a sort of test situation, or just plain need a change of pace. Could also be used as a way to temporarily excuse people from the RP. :3

Scarlet Weather
July 11th, 2007, 11:17 AM
Okay, point taken. I prefer medieval/other world settings because of the romanticism. I'm sorry- I'm very, very opinionated. Gomen Nasai.

Yayz! The AE plot that is wrapped in spoiler tags! Awesomeness!

....

Okay.... So, my only two questions are "When do we start?" and "Do we find out whether our character is a teacher or whatever before or after we sign up?", since it would be kind of hard to decide what kind of character to create who would fit all three available roles. You couldn't mention what he was good at, whether he enjoyed being on the faculty, etc.

Alter Ego
July 11th, 2007, 11:29 AM
Yeah, I know what you mean about the roles. But really, I think those are questions I'd better leave to Jyukai. Personally, I do agree that it would simplify things if the experienced people and teachers would be declared ahead of time, but that's not my call. Same goes for the start-up, but odds are that that will have to wait at least until Asch comes back.

Anyways, anything that could use trimming or - gasp - is missing? Now those things I can do something about. :3

Scarlet Weather
July 11th, 2007, 11:49 AM
You know, enchantment sounds a bit like something out of Fullmetal Alchemist...

Hm... Not much I can say. See, the problem with your plots, AE, is that all of them have so much obvious effort and imagination thrown in that I can't really add much to them in the way of CC. I might ask "Are humans the only inhabitants, or no? Are there specific spells needed for enchantments, or is it basically "draw it out of your own mind"? Are there any rules about what can and cannot be enchanted or created by enchantment? (ex., making enchanted gold and conning people for example.)" However, all of those are really optional fields and not really necessary for the rp to continue. Once Asch gets back, I think it will be time to begin.

Alter Ego
July 11th, 2007, 01:29 PM
Damn it, someone made that link even though I so carefully steered away from transmutation. *Shot'dness*

Anyways, on the racial issue...ah, you prodded on a little dilemma of mine. Yes, the original setting had different races, but I figured that would just add more confusion in this context so I decided to place this at a point of time before they emerged so assume that they're currently hiding. xD

And no, enchantments don't require any specific incantations, although there are focus chants for beginners to help them with the imagination and belief part. (It's a type of self-hypnotism) Pros don't need it, though. :3 As for the rules...well, the only limit for what is formed is the power of your mind and the availability of materials, really, so the bigger stuff is harder to put into being (It's easier to believe in pulling a rabbit out of a hat than replacing the critter with an elephant, you know) but no, there are no limits per-say so the gold scam is fully possible; but of course you'd have to make a run for it before the enchantment disbands. Oh, and do note that enchantment deals with all forms of make-believe, so you could just make something look and feel like gold without ever bothering to turn it into gold. :3

Chibi-chan
July 11th, 2007, 02:27 PM
\School RP finally~
I really like the plot; the setting itself brings a lot to the imagination, and I love that kind of stuff! The one criticism I think I can point out though is that for a person who has only gotten RP experience from Neopets or something around that experience, the RP may seem a bit overwhelming with your terms of words and how you explained everything. Maybe you should put an 'In Short' Plot summary at the end. It just helps to appeal to more people.

So you're pretty much a human enchanter? No elves or halfbeasts? I'd love the flare of that, but I guess it could get too confusing, but it could add extra details in history and appearance so that everyone can advance on that. One thing I've been curious about is the social interaction between characters outside of class time...will there be an outside of class time? And three roles, you mean teacher, Junior, and Senior, right? I like the whole idea though :3

Mr.Altosax
July 11th, 2007, 03:06 PM
I love the plot AE. It should do a nice job of educating, since there are ways for action to occur while still maintaining a certain order among students.

Are we going to cram everyone that wants to learn in this one, or have multiple RPs? I guess it depends on the number of people who apply...I'd just have an extra RP ready just in case there are swarms of newbie RPers who come.

Alter Ego
July 11th, 2007, 03:55 PM
\School RP finally~
I really like the plot; the setting itself brings a lot to the imagination, and I love that kind of stuff! The one criticism I think I can point out though is that for a person who has only gotten RP experience from Neopets or something around that experience, the RP may seem a bit overwhelming with your terms of words and how you explained everything. Maybe you should put an 'In Short' Plot summary at the end. It just helps to appeal to more people.

Hmm...good point, I'll see about getting one done. :3

So you're pretty much a human enchanter? No elves or halfbeasts? I'd love the flare of that, but I guess it could get too confusing, but it could add extra details in history and appearance so that everyone can advance on that. One thing I've been curious about is the social interaction between characters outside of class time...will there be an outside of class time? And three roles, you mean teacher, Junior, and Senior, right? I like the whole idea though :3

I agree that racial diversity would be interesting, but yeah...keeping it simple this time around. Plus, Riven elves are somewhat different from your average elven lot so I was afraid that explaining some of their little quirks (Such as shared dreaming) would sort of complicate matters. And let's not even get me started about the other things...like the full story behind rift magic. That's something for another RP, I think. xD Anyway, yeah, the roles are junior, senior, and teach. ^^ Oh, and I almost forgot to answer this one: yeah, there will be out of class time. I mean, no-one can just study and practice twenty-four seven, right? n_n

Are we going to cram everyone that wants to learn in this one, or have multiple RPs? I guess it depends on the number of people who apply...I'd just have an extra RP ready just in case there are swarms of newbie RPers who come.

Well, the way I understood it this was just something to get things rolling. If this RP teaching thing catches on (like we hope it will) then there will probably be many more to come. :3

Loki
July 11th, 2007, 04:08 PM
Yeah, Davi-kun is going to be back tomorrow, or sometime around then. *YIIIIIIIIIEEEEE!!! runsaroundincircles* [/can't wait]

Anyway, this is the only thing I found wrong with the whole thing.

king Reginald decided

King is capitalized. :33 And that's it!

IZ PERFECT AE, JOO R KAMI-SAMA. :OOOOOO

Anyway, as far as I'm concerned, Davi-kun, Iruru-chan, and Al-chan are going to be teachers, unless they're not up to it. If there's nothing serving for plot writing, then I might be one too, but I need to work on my plot writing skillz... *as you can clearly tell*

That's all I'm assigning so far, and once Davi-kun gets back, there might be moar, might be less, we'll see. ^^

Scarlet Weather
July 11th, 2007, 05:56 PM
IZ PERFECT AE, JOO R KAMI-SAMA. :OOOOOO


Believe it or not, when I saw that, I had a random image of AE as god. I was funny as... as... something really, really funny. *Is shot for spammage in post*

Hm.... if there are more to come, perhaps I should get writing! Time to go recycle write a plot!

Jack O'Neill
July 11th, 2007, 09:56 PM
First, technology isn't quite as advanced; electricity is considered cutting edge (and still isn't commercially available) so obviously the conveniences related to it are out of the question. They do have indoor plumbing, though, so don't worry about that.
Judging by that description, that would place the setting at somewhere around late 19th century to early 20th century (World War I level at the absolute most advanced) in terms of general technology level. Kinda reminds me of Fullmetal Alchemist, actually. O.o;

Zaiku
July 12th, 2007, 11:59 AM
Ok, I need to know, so if the only magic is enchantment and temporary, does that mean that it isn't possible to shoot balls of fire, or attack with lightning bolts, or something along those lines.

Alter Ego
July 12th, 2007, 12:57 PM
Judging by that description, that would place the setting at somewhere around late 19th century to early 20th century (World War I level at the absolute most advanced) in terms of general technology level. Kinda reminds me of Fullmetal Alchemist, actually. O.o;

Well, I've only seen the two first episodes of that anime so I wouldn't know. Dang, this is starting to feel like déja vu of the Adopter RP (Which, everyone insisted, bore a haunting resemblance to Digimon). Why do my plots tend to resemble animes I don't know? :O But yeah, I figured that full medieval was a bit too cliché. :3

Ok, I need to know, so if the only magic is enchantment and temporary, does that mean that it isn't possible to shoot balls of fire, or attack with lightning bolts, or something along those lines.

Not easily, no. For combustion you'd need to create a lot of heat (not to mention that you need something pretty sizable to ignite for the fireball) and a lightning bolt needs a crapload of electrons assembled together, not to mention that you'd have to picture something that happens in a split-second. Both call for insane amounts of energy, so they're not very feasible options, no.

So yeah, that would be teacher level stuff, and tough even for them, not to mention that that sort of thing is brushing a bit too close to destruction arts (one of the two forbidden branches) so there might be...consequences. Enchanters would usually be a bit more creative - and practical - about their fighting magic. ;D

Zaiku
July 12th, 2007, 01:03 PM
AE: Well, you make quite a point there. I guess I've just played one too many Square Enix games, they make it look easy. D:

Anyway, speaking of magical fighting, I don't wanna give too much away about my character before he is made, but I've already started making concept ideas, drawings (For the sake of concept) and whatnot, and I've planned so that he uses many card related attacks, it may sound kinda corny, but he could I dunno, use an attack called 'Ace of Spades,' and the enemy is attacked by a big ace, (as the ace of spades is always huge.) Would something along those lines be easy to cast?

Alter Ego
July 12th, 2007, 02:55 PM
Well, it depends on how the ace-thingie attacks, but if we're talking something simple like dropping something heavy on top of someone then that's not too difficult at all, as long as you have something to modify it from (Heck, a playing card would do if you want to be all thematic. xD). And of course it's slightly simpler if you do it as pure illusion (I.e. making it appear and feel like the person is being attacked). Shouldn't be a problem. And yes, the Squeenix folks have it easy, but there are good reasons for why the method that would make that easy is banned. ;D

Jack O'Neill
July 12th, 2007, 08:44 PM
Well, I've only seen the two first episodes of that anime so I wouldn't know. Dang, this is starting to feel like déja vu of the Adopter RP (Which, everyone insisted, bore a haunting resemblance to Digimon). Why do my plots tend to resemble animes I don't know? :O But yeah, I figured that full medieval was a bit too cliché. :3
Why do your plots tend to resemble anime you're unaware of? I'd just chalk it up to mere coincidence if I were you. x3

For the record, Fullmetal Alchemist is set somewhere around World War I (the upper limit of my estimate for the RP setting's tech level, incidentally). The actual tech level in FMA would be summed up kinda like this:

Automobile technology is at least late 1920s vintage (at least as far as body style is concerned).
Electricity is available only in large cities; rural areas still depend on gas lamps and candlelight for illumination. Telephone service is widely available, though.
Absolutely no aircraft other than zeppelins and hot-air balloons.
Firearms technology is at least World War II level, with widespread adoption of semiautomatic rifles and submachine guns among the military. Machine guns are based more on the 1930s-vintage MG34 and MG42 than on the Maxim-derived models actually used during World War I.
Armoured vehicles are of Spanish Civil War (mid-1930s) vintage, with lots and lots of light tanks; none of those clunky, turretless iron bricks the British used in World War I.

Chibi-chan
July 12th, 2007, 09:07 PM
Why do your plots tend to resemble anime you're unaware of? I'd just chalk it up to mere coincidence if I were you. x3

*insert tech here*

Lol, I have no idea where you're going with this, but if you join Chibi will be ecstatic~ This sorta reminds me of Full Metal Alchemist for the same reasons, but hey, who doesn't like FMA? :P

So...RP starts when?

Loki
July 12th, 2007, 09:15 PM
RP starts when David gets back.

I don't see where you're going with that either Jack, but I guess it might have some sort of relevance to the RP, from the bits and pieces I understand, so I'll just ignore it.

Teachers:

Alter Ego [lulz for super critz.]
Iruka [lulz for super long posts that actually have meaning in them.]
Asch [lulz for being a scary admin who would strangle me if I put him in Year 7.]

Year 8: Art_Critic_Cubone (Though he would better fit in the 'Unplaced' category, as even though I've RPed with him a lot, I still don't remember how he RP's. xDD)

Year 7: OmniReaper, Kuraudo Sutoraifu, Chikara, Mr. Altosax, Chigiri, ASCH (LULZ BUT I DID IT ANYWAY.)

Unplaced as of Yet: Chibi-chan, Zaiku, Meh.

And those are the only people that I remember posting in here... OH YEAH. *adds*

That's how I see things. If there are any objections whatsoever to what I decided, don't hesitate to say so. :x Or, do you want to pick this, Alter Ego? Since it IS your plot?

Also, speak up if you're not going to join, or if you weren't placed on the current list. We can keep updating it until David gets back.

Rena
July 12th, 2007, 09:23 PM
Oh, oh, yeah 8D. Miki-chan Rena-chan wants to join also [/shot'd because doesn't have an intellectual post.]

Niwa
July 12th, 2007, 09:39 PM
So we're posting here then? If so, then I'll be joining.

Jack O'Neill
July 12th, 2007, 09:40 PM
I don't see where you're going with that either Jack, but I guess it might have some sort of relevance to the RP, from the bits and pieces I understand, so I'll just ignore it.
It does indeed have some relevance, at least as far as the setting of the RP is concerned.

As for my actual involvement in this endeavor, you can file me under the "unplaced" category.

Loki
July 12th, 2007, 10:02 PM
Unplaced simply means that I haven't decided yet. I'll file you where I want to.

Teachers: Alter Ego, Iruka, Asch, MIKI-CHAN AND COIN-CHAN

We can't have too many teachers though... So....

Year 8: Art_Critic_Cubone (I don't know if anyone else's opinion differs, but I'm pretty sure someone *cough* has an opinion on this placement. Don't worry, I don't think you're an egoistic snob ACC, it's someone else. xDD)

In between: Jack O'Neill leaning towards 8. You're good at RPing, but if you can show me that you can RP something COMPLETELY unrelated to guns, military intellect, and specific models of bullets and M20149V2934835's, (random numbers and an 'M' ftw.) then I'd put you in Year 8 hands down. Diversity is the main thing you need to work on. And, you need to learn how to talk to other people in a way that doesn't seem so blunt and rude. Every post you make just makes me feel like I need to be on the defense so I'm not caught off guard when you insult me for something. :< That's not a good enviroment for RPer's.

Zaiku, leaning towards 7. I see that you CAN RP, but the point is is that you need to learn something important, that JBC needs to learn too. Paragraphs, m'man. :< Paragraphs. And since that's so crucial, it's towards 7. ^^;

Year 7: Omnireaper, Chigiri (You need some super glue or something to glue you to one place! >O You're always jumping all over the place with idea's, but you should try to root yourself with one and work on that single plot, and give it lot's of thought.), Kuraudo Sutoraifu, Mr. Altosax (From what I remember, you should be in 7, but I don't think I've ever actually RPed with you.), Chikara (You're rusty gal! :O)

Unplaced: Chibi-chan (Probably Year 8, for the sheer fact that we'll have a lot of teachers if this keeps going.), Niwa (LULZORZ WHY R JOO HERE?), Miki-chan (LULZORZ JOO 2 R SO FUHNEE, WHAT JOO POSTING HERE 4?)

*jumps off cliff for using numbers as abbreviations*

Scales
July 12th, 2007, 10:08 PM
Well then. That seems okay Jyukai. I guess we all need some more experience if we want to get to a better year.

Zaiku
July 12th, 2007, 10:29 PM
Zaiku, leaning towards 7. I see that you CAN RP, but the point is is that you need to learn something important, that JBC needs to learn too. Paragraphs, m'man. :< Paragraphs. And since that's so crucial, it's towards 7. ^^;

Ok, ok, I won't panic, *heavy pant breathing*
So it's paragraphs I got to work on. Something I want to know, will we be judged on our sign-up and our previous RP posts, or just the sign up and the RP sample? I just want to know, are you giving us a 'heads up' sorta thing here, or this is final judging?

Loki
July 12th, 2007, 10:48 PM
This isn't the FINAL thing, so DEEP BREATHS DUDE, BREEEEEEAAAATH. XDDD

This is just my view on positions. If ANYONE has an objection to their placement, feel free to bring it up jah?

This is based on what I've seen. Seeing as there haven't been any sign-ups yet. < <

But, I might let Alter Ego pick in the end, if he really wants to, as he did the plot, he has the right to be Kami-sama again and pass judgement on all our sorry er... butts.

Rena
July 12th, 2007, 11:06 PM
I'M FLATTER-DAKFLHAKLGHRLG xD.

Well, Jyu-jyu-tan, Mik's joining because she deserves some criticism, and a fun RP <3. And no "WHY CRITICISM, MIKI-CHAN'S ALREADY A GODDESS =3." And because magic is awesome-schmasome, and I have a character in mind <3.

Chibi-chan
July 13th, 2007, 12:16 AM
I'm surprised you're not a teacher yourself Jyukai! Being a student would be for fun IMO :3~ JACKKK~ We haven't RPed since....that last RP where we got into that amazingly awesome catfight for an entire page XD. I've got an entire character set up already. I wish that for character appearances that you could put a picture reference though and at least credit or something. Along with the one paragraph of course.

On another note, my router is getting better~

Loki
July 13th, 2007, 12:19 AM
I'm surprised you're not a teacher yourself Jyukai! Being a student would be for fun IMO :3~ JACKKK~ We haven't RPed since....that last RP where we got into that amazingly awesome catfight for an entire page XD. I've got an entire character set up already. I wish that for character appearances that you could put a picture reference though and at least credit or something. Along with the one paragraph of course.

On another note, my router is getting better~


Second the notion. Totally forgot about that when I went to go make a charrie, I was like, "No picchars?! Errr... Then I'll draw one. *goes to scribble for an hour before finally discarding sketch*"

As long as we can't use the image alone, and have to describe like everything first. :/

Scarlet Weather
July 13th, 2007, 01:33 AM
Place me in year eight? HOW DARE YOU! *shoots own ego*

Yeah, year eight is fine. My main problem with roleplaying is that I tend to read through posts too quickly and have faulty info in my responses, but otherwise, I think I'm fine. Well, except for my total lack of ideas of my own... most of my characters are amalgams of certain archetypes I like. That, and I need to stop playing the nice guy so often. Seriously, I'm going to make my character so evil, you'll think he's the spirit brother of Simon Cowell, or an equally nasty curmudgeon. XD

Loki
July 13th, 2007, 02:34 AM
Place me in year eight? HOW DARE YOU! *shoots own ego*

Yeah, year eight is fine. My main problem with roleplaying is that I tend to read through posts too quickly and have faulty info in my responses, but otherwise, I think I'm fine. Well, except for my total lack of ideas of my own... most of my characters are amalgams of certain archetypes I like. That, and I need to stop playing the nice guy so often. Seriously, I'm going to make my character so evil, you'll think he's the spirit brother of Simon Cowell, or an equally nasty curmudgeon. XD

*shoots your ego too*

>O No. LULZ totally kidding. That's the main reason why I was iffy on you, but even if your skills are worth a teacher's, I have to point out that if I put everyone I thought deserved to be a teacher, we'd only have year 7's and teachers. :x Which is why I might put Niwa and Mik-chan in Year 8. "MAKE SIGN-UPS SHORTER, THUS EASIER TO READ."

xDDD Not seriously though.

@Chibi-chan: Late response, LULZFTW. Anyway, I'm not a teacher because I need to work on quality. xDDDDDDDDDDDD And plot writing and stuff, but I'll probably work on plot writing by myself. Most of my posts look really long, but trust me. When I make a post, the first thing I think is, "Okay. What can I use as padding for this post, but it won't stick out because I've used it already?"

xDDD

Chibi-chan
July 13th, 2007, 02:41 AM
*has already filled out a sign up sheet* >:3

If there are going to be a lot of people joining, do you think there should be a separate signup thread along with an OOC thread? I can just see new signups clogging up the actual RP thread or corrections needing to be made and another signup sheet made and all that stuff *coughcoughyouknowwhatImeancoughcough* That way, it might be easier for a full student roster and for new people to slip into the RP! ^-^

Post padding? Tsk, tsk. Follow the wise words of George Orwell, "Never use a long word where a short one will do." >:

Loki
July 13th, 2007, 02:43 AM
Tsk tsk, you know the words of The Laziest Moddie on earth.

"Always use a long word when you can use a short one."

xDDDD

Yazz, I believe we will have an OOC thread, and I'm sure that can double as a sign-up thread. I also think that this RP needs a name, or did I overlook that? :x

Jack O'Neill
July 13th, 2007, 03:21 AM
*shoots own ego as well* Playing the gunslinging militarist with a superiority complex has always been fun, though. XD

SIG-Sauer P226 chambered in .40 S&W. Can you say that along with me? SIG-Sauer P226 chambered in .40 S&W. Good. XP *shotshotshotshotshot*

And yes, this RP definitely needs a name. As always, defer to Alter Ego; it's his baby, after all.

Alter Ego
July 13th, 2007, 08:35 AM
Gee...pop out from the forums to get some sleep and everyone else goes on a posting spree. Awesome. ^-^

Anyways...

On the naming thing: yeah, it does need a name but I'm terrible with those so I'm open to suggestions on that front. Also, speaking of names...I'm surprised that no-one picked up on a funny little acronym that can be formed from one of the names in the plot, that means I can make a lame IC joke about it later, yay! x3

As for classifications: I'd say stick to Jyukai's judgment for now; they seem fine to me. But hey, I'm a teacher on that list so you all knew I'd support it...

Oh, and concerning pictures...since several people seem to have some issues with that. My problem is with people who go: "Well, he/she looks like this: *Insert a huge anime picture that has been ripped off from Anime Nation here*", or even worse: "He/she looks like *Insert picture again* except...". If the picture doesn't even look like the character, why post it for Feebas' sake?! <_< I mean, that kind of appearance field not only makes it hard on the other RPers who'll have to describe the picture rather than taking a ready-to-go written description (As the written portion is basically always weaker when there's a picture) but it also makes the sign-up look really cluttered and rushed. If you have permission from the artist then it's okay, but huge, ripped pictures (often of dubious quality) replacing proper writing just make me want to scream. >_<

Also, 7ths: don't take it the wrong way, there's a lot of fun RPing options for RP characters completely new to the academy that the others don't have access to (such as being completely clueless about how the whole thing works, and all those funny first contact with magic and learning how to cast posts); you're privileged, you lucky people, so make the most of it. x3

And...well, we could have a separate sign-up thread too, I guess (Yay for doing it fully Serebii style); whatever you people think will be most convenient. ^-^

Loki
July 13th, 2007, 05:05 PM
SIG-Sauer P226 chambered in .40 S&W.

*copy paste*

xD;

We should have at least one indication that it's a school/learning RP in the title, or the first post.

I'm really bad at names too. >.< Uhhhh... Nnnn.... *brain power! GO!*

Yeah I got nothing. It's hard for me to think of a name for a plot that I didn't write...

Mr.Altosax
July 13th, 2007, 08:04 PM
I think that we may actually need a Year 6...For people with terrible grammar skills, and Uber Bad RP skills.

Zaiku
July 13th, 2007, 09:44 PM
I think that we may actually need a Year 6...For people with terrible grammar skills, and Uber Bad RP skills.

Good call, I mean, there are some really bad posts out there, take this one for example:

rexejon saws on the top of the clock tower.
he saw a man with one wing, a sort of a one winged angel.
the man sayd: so you feel my dark power i feel yours to and i gonna destroy you.
rexejon answerd:so you are sephiroth the man who kills everybody who stands in his way. i heard about you from cloud, he is a good friend of mine.
sephiroth:so you know cloud, now you really gonna die dark one.
rexejon: no way i gonna lose from you.

sephiroth takes his sword and goes in to attack and rexejon avoid the hit with no energy cost and takes blood nobody,s heart. and they fight and fight.

Awful, isn't it? What about his next one?

when i had defeated sephiroth. i feld a power from the woods. a sort of neutral power. and goes to the woods. i got attacked from two sides from dragoon en berserker nobody,s. uhm what i shall do give them a heart and be my party or destroy them uhm difficult choice ok chosen he get his blood nobody,s heart and attacked the 100 dragoons and 200 berserkers

I don't need to explain to you how bad that is, that is 6th grade level... (And if we were true enough, we'd call that 5th grade level)

Anyway, if you want a name, how about just name it after the school?

'Riven Academy of Thaumaturgical Science'

Loki
July 14th, 2007, 12:43 AM
Mmmm, but that kind of post isn't allowed. Where'd you find it? I shall do away with it at once.

I see that Anagram you were talking about AE. "RATS"

xD

Anyway, if a year 6 is imminent, that'll depend on who joins. You can always get demoted or promoted. Depends on your diligence, right?

Zaiku
July 14th, 2007, 12:56 AM
Don't worry, it's from another site, I just used it as an example of how bad you need to be, to be put in year 6.

I see that Anagram you were talking about AE. "RATS"

Anagram? Don't you mean abbreviation? Anyway, RATS, XD

Scarlet Weather
July 14th, 2007, 01:26 AM
Ooh. Jyukai just got told.

But why would we need a year six if all the bad peoples are on other sites?

*double checks roleplays and sees all the random nubs who sign-up but never get accepted*

Oh.... point taken.

Zaiku
July 14th, 2007, 01:41 AM
Ooh. Jyukai just got told.

But why would we need a year six if all the bad peoples are on other sites?

*double checks roleplays and sees all the random nubs who sign-up but never get accepted*

Oh.... point taken.

Yes, we got quite a few of them in star in the sky...


ok well im joining now.
name: Alex
Age:12
Gender:Male
Location:sinnoh,sandgem town.
Pokemon to be: Chimchar
description: Alex is a young trainer with blonde hair and wears a blue vest and jeans. he also wears a blue pokemon cap. he has dark eyes and wears his cap down over his head a lot of the time. He wears Blue DC sneakers and has a light brown pokemon bag.
History: Alex prefers to keep that hidden.
Love: Alex does not love anybody at this point of his life but is mildly interested in Ruya
Personality:Alex has a mean personality. he trains only his pokemon with care,but not any people. He often wanders around without supervision, battling people.He doesnt like other people much and feels joy when he wins a battle to low rank trainers,whom he laughs at afterwords.His personality changes a lot during the night
Other: Alex prefers not to make friends


Yeah, they're at PC too, (no offence to the poster of this who's identity I won't reveal, I just took advantage of it, as it was the first one I could find).

Rena
July 14th, 2007, 02:14 AM
Point, point [/nods head.] And one Year .0002831736 xD.

Name: Bob
Age: Wut?
Gender: Boy
Description: [/shows picture made in paint.]
Personality: He is nice but has an evil side.
History: He went to be a pokemon master, and caught the legendary pokemon mewtwo, and it became his best friend, and he can talk to pokemon.
Other: Bob is cool.

[/Just a made up application.]

Hmm, names. Well-zorz, I like the abbreviation, though maybe the school name is good, it says both that it's a school, and that it has SMART words, xD.

Loki
July 14th, 2007, 02:52 AM
Well, like I said earlier, if the n00bies join the RP, then we'll make a Year 6. If not, then we need not bother. It falls on who joins in the end.

Ah, and, by the way.

IT'S ANAGRAM BECAUSE I SAID IT IS. No excuses. End of story. >P

*lulz*

MY SUPER-LONGEST SIGN-UP IS GOING WELL. YOU NEED NOT WORRY ZAIKU. lulz I MAY JUST DEFEAT JOO AND JER THREE PAGES WORTH. >DD Although I'll probably get lazy soon. K I got lazy. I don't want to make a super long sign-up. xD;

Anyway, Davi-kun is being lazy and isn't reading all this, so I guess I'll end up posting it, if he's too busy with his own RP. >O Either way, I want to get this up.

Edit-ching: HO-kay, I guess I'm making it. Davi-kun says he doesn't want to. So can I make it, or is there anything we have to wait for?

Rena
July 14th, 2007, 03:32 AM
AH HAH >:]. You may nevar beat my five-paragraph APPEARENCE [/shot'd for being so lame-o.] Ahhh, Miki is spamming-z0rzing again D=.

Mr.Altosax
July 14th, 2007, 03:46 AM
Point, point [/nods head.] And one Year .0002831736 xD.

Name: Bob
Age: Wut?
Gender: Boy
Description: [/shows picture made in paint.]
Personality: He is nice but has an evil side.
History: He went to be a pokemon master, and caught the legendary pokemon mewtwo, and it became his best friend, and he can talk to pokemon.
Other: Bob is cool.

[/Just a made up application.]

Hmm, names. Well-zorz, I like the abbreviation, though maybe the school name is good, it says both that it's a school, and that it has SMART words, xD.

That was awesome, Rena. That's exactly what I mean by we'll need a year 6.

And...btw, an acronym would be the technical word for RATS. I don't think we're waiting for anything right now, Jyukai so we could get this whole train a-rollin' right now.

Zaiku
July 14th, 2007, 04:23 AM
AH HAH >:]. You may nevar beat my five-paragraph APPEARENCE [/shot'd for being so lame-o.] Ahhh, Miki is spamming-z0rzing again D=.

Guess what? My appearence is 7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven)paragraphs! I am ownage!
*shot for using the word ownage to brag about and RP-sign up*

Did you not here Jyukai's capatialised rant? I got a little over three pages of a sign up.(I'm desperate to be a senior, I couldn't help myself).

I won't spoil anymore, just put on your reading glasses when Jyukai posts the thread, because you will need them to read my sign up... Muahahahaha! :badsmile:

And...btw, an acronym would be the technical word for RATS.

Ooh! Zaiku just got told! Wait, I'm Zaiku! *shot*

Edit-ching: HO-kay, I guess I'm making it. Davi-kun says he doesn't want to. So can I make it, or is there anything we have to wait for?

No! post it, post it, post it, POST IT! *Shot*

Ok, before I am shot again, I seriously want to say, let's get this show on the road!

Loki
July 14th, 2007, 04:36 AM
xD I want to wait for AE's permission first.

And, I HATE TO SAY IT BECAUSE YOUR SO AWESOME MIK-CHAN, but no more spammage. ;< Otherwise Bijyu will have to send joo a PM that isn't filled with caps and happiness. [/I'm so biased. BUT IT'S NOT LIKE I CAN BE SUPER COLD TO MIK-CHAN! MIK-CHAN IS... MIK-CHAN!!]

WHATEVER.

LIKE I SAID.

IT'S AN ANAGRAM BECAUSE I SAID IT WAS. NO MORE OF DIZ SAHBUJECT PLAHZEZ.

Alter Ego
July 14th, 2007, 08:18 AM
Dang, now that joke lost a bit of its thunder. RATS, indeed. It came out accidentally at first but the moment I noticed it it clinched the name for me. xD Anyways, it's called an acronym, you ignorant children, so I win the thread, and Dictionary.com agrees with me so you can't argue. See for yourself. ;3

ac·ro·nym
-noun

1.a word formed from the initial letters or groups of letters of words in a set phrase or series of words, as Wac from Women's Army Corps, OPEC from Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries, or loran from long-range navigation.

Emphasis by me. Now we can drop the subject, because dictionary definitions make everything better. =D


And let's be honest, shall we? Those RPers would quite frankly constitute RPing kindergarten, but yeah...we can always make a dunce, ahem, 'special needs' class if it comes to that. *Shot* We'll rise to the occasion, but let's not start over-complicating before it comes to that. And while we're talking RPers; some folks ought to remember that it's not the size of the profile that matters. ;D

Anyways, far be it from me to hold up the start of this shebang. Just wondering, though; is Iruka around? And what about Asch? Is he still up for teaching or shall we be forced to poke him with sharp kitchen implements for not being supportive of the good cause? Because, you know, if neither is around then I'd be the only teacher at start up and I think it would make more sense to have at least two (One for junior, one for senior). Oh well, if that becomes a problem there will always be a workaround; so let's get this started! x3

Which reminds me...

*Rushes off to write up a sign up sheet*

Oh yeah...*Rushes back* About the name, let's just make it short and sweet with "The Riven Academy" and maybe a little tag that says 'learning RP' or something to that effect.

Right, going to go type for real now.

*Rushes off again*

parallelzero
July 14th, 2007, 08:27 AM
I got back yesterday, and still suffering from jet lag apparently... There's too much to read! ;.; *It's 4am here*

Alter Ego
July 14th, 2007, 08:39 AM
Well, it's basically a mixture of obsolete stuff and pointless drabble until the plot draft at page five, after that we have some productive stuff after which it once again descends to pointless drabble starting from this page, so like...starting from the spoiler tags at five and working your way down from there is probably the way to go. But yeah, maybe 4 a.m. isn't the most conductive time of the day for this sort of thing. Just wanted to check if you were still with us. ;D

Oh, and welcome back. ^-^

Scarlet Weather
July 14th, 2007, 12:46 PM
So, wait, let me get this straight- a good ninety percent of this entire thing is drabble-ified?

Yesh, wilcam bak Askh. By the way, has anyone besides me noticed that with the introduction of this stickied thread, the plot discussion thread has been completely and utterly forgotten? I take that as a sign that pretty much everyone who roleplays here will be participating. Shweetness. *Shot-ed for adding to the "pointless drabble"*

Alter Ego
July 14th, 2007, 12:50 PM
Oh, let's face it: RPers love to drabble, why else would we do what we do best? xD Anyways, not everything back there is drabble; some of it is just moot.

And yeah, I noticed about the Discussion Thread *Guilty* but for my part that will have to wait until I've finished my profile. Can't have a teacher submitting a sloppy sign-up now, can we? ;D

Scarlet Weather
July 14th, 2007, 02:51 PM
No... but as an eighth year student, I'm so totally gonna get away with it!

Heheh. I'm not guilty. Does this mean I can be a teacher now?

I need to stop spamming. I really, really need to stop spamming.

Oh wait, I had a questiony-thingy... as far as enchantments go, would an experienced or particulary gifted enchanter be able to give temporary life to an inanimate object, or is making living things via enchantment limited to a "frog prince" type scenario?

Alter Ego
July 14th, 2007, 03:00 PM
No... but as an eighth year student, I'm so totally gonna get away with it!

Heheh. I'm not guilty. Does this mean I can be a teacher now?

I need to stop spamming. I really, really need to stop spamming.

Oh wait, I had a questiony-thingy... as far as enchantments go, would an experienced or particulary gifted enchanter be able to give temporary life to an inanimate object, or is making living things via enchantment limited to a "frog prince" type scenario?

Okay, since there's some non-spammy stuff for me to say here and this is an important point I'll post: no, enchantment can not give life to an inanimate object. That falls under creation arts, the second of the forbidden branches. At best, an enchanter can make it seem like something inanimate is alive (By manipulating it like a puppet, for instance), but the end product will never be any more or less sentient than the original object. So yeah, a frog prince is viable (since both frogs and princes are sentient beings) but concretely bringing something like a statue or corpse to life is not. :3

Shadowfaith
July 17th, 2007, 10:40 AM
I'm still here, got back onproperly yesterday after my connection acting up and logging me off randomly when I signed on. Worst was when I was writing long replies to RPG's and such and it decided to give in, though it did last a while when I was only on MSN because I have wireless. It was weird, but it alas, I am back =D

Anyways, seems like this has all gone well. Kudos!

typeZERO
July 19th, 2007, 07:09 PM
Ah ever since the new RPs came up , mainly the newest RP "The Riven Academy," The whole Roleplay topic has become insanely active , why now I'm joining the newest RPs I can find!

Loki
August 17th, 2007, 02:13 AM
I believe you've posted in the wrong thread. I will move your post to the correct thread. ^^;

♥~*Abby*~♥
August 24th, 2007, 09:28 PM
back in the days, it was SO easy 4 ur rp 2 b accepted. now its impossible. i wish the moderaters would b nicer...

JBCBlank
April 14th, 2008, 02:46 AM
I has a suggestion. *clears throat* An Rp tournament. I have an idea in mind, all I need is for people to agree to the idea so that I can get the ball rolling, I'll arrange everything, Prizes, the plot, even sponsers if I need them. I just think that something like this would make our Rpers go.. .Ooooo I can win a prize for doing something I love.

~JBCBlank

CloneTrooper 47
July 8th, 2008, 06:42 AM
Ooo, I can win a prize for something I love...

(good idea JBC)

Shiney
July 9th, 2008, 06:24 PM
Well, I admit my activity here from the other side hasn't exactly been what I've hoped it to be, but if I get a good setup, I should be able to give some new ideas. In my exile, I've been exposed to some somewhat new art forms, and I might be able to come up with some new idceas, or should I at least say, new viewpoints, or new styles that might be able to get some interest. I know it's a bit vague, but I don't want to let any details go until I get my plan together more, so cross your fingers and pray for my successful conversions of these new ideas to a PC-friendly format!

Alter Ego
July 9th, 2008, 07:10 PM
Umm...you guys do realize that this topic concerns a situation that will be celebrating its one-year anniversary in a matter of days, right? The peoples came back, the section is alive, and there are more new faces than I care to count.

Problem solved. =D

Chibi-chan
July 9th, 2008, 08:32 PM
Meh, I'm still looking for some casual summer RPs.
But that's just me o;

Shadowfaith
November 4th, 2008, 05:20 PM
Seems this area of the RPG's has died yet again XP

I know my Draconia RPG didn't go through because I left for a while so I apologise for that...but maybe its time for another revival idea? XD

Renneh
November 22nd, 2008, 10:53 PM
I've got an idea for a roleplay that I see almost everywhere, look out for it because I'm sure it will be something everyone likes. ^^

Necromancy
November 29th, 2008, 07:23 PM
I'd love to see a Naruto RP around, as I've been dying to sign up for one of them. If there was one I'd definitely join. I personally wouldn't start one myself because I haven't made my own RP since last year iirc. :3 I'd be happy to help someone with ideas and the like, but running it wouldn't be my thing.