The Old Chateau

[Shiny Umbreon]

This thread is to discuss about the Old Chateau ghosts.

First, all the known information:


Real people ghosts:

Little girl - To see her, go upstairs to the middle room and then go to the second room from the right (the one with the eyes on the wall). When you enter, a little girl should appear on the room on the right, turn around and float (because her legs don't move) to the door, disappearing. If you don't see her, exit and enter the room again until you do.

Butler - Go forward to the dining room and you will see an old man at the other side of the table, who will then float to the left and then disappear. If you don't see him, exit and enter the room again until you do.

Pokémon ghosts:

Gastly are seen everywhere in the mansion. Haunter and Gengar appear less often if you have a GBA game inserted in your DS. And, finally, Rotom appears after obtaining the National Dex if you watch the TV closely during night time.

Mysterious "ghosts"
The picture in the room where you see the girl has red glowind eyes on it, staring at you unless you approach. When you leave the room and go to the other ones, the eyes will follow your direction. Apart from the eyes, there's the statue at the entrance of the dining room that "appears to be staring at you".

Theories

I heard in this forum a theory about these ghosts. Supposedly, the chef poisoned the food and killed the little girl and the old man, saving himself with an Antidote found in the kitchen.

I have some things to add to this theory. I think the little girl was NOT killed. The TM Substitue found at the room where the girl is can tell another girl was killed instead. Also it's strange that, the Old Gateau, which cures status ailments, wasn't used. But, in my opinion, this was what the real girl used to save herself. Maybe the girl is someone else in the game, she could even have grew up because no one says when this happened. Because there are no clues, it could anyone, even Cynthia or Dawn (assuming the male character is the main one).


If you have other theories or discoverings, post them.

[kohei]

>>I heard in this forum a theory about these ghosts.
lol hi.

Anyhow, did you notice how the statue in the Chateau looks the same as the one in the Mansion?

Also, don't you think its strange how only the little girl and the old man is dead? Assuming that the old man is a butler, then where did the father/mother go? Maybe they got rich through scams and such, and were being chased by triads... but they ran away to somewhere far away, so the girl/man had to bite the bullet. Literary.

[GIVEMEDARKRAI]

I Think That The Butler Is Working At The Pokemon Mansion And That The Owner Is The Father, The Little Girl Is One Of The Maids Or Maybe Is Still Haunting The Mansion

[Cema]

I don't remember exactly where in the game, but another person mentions how they abandoned the mansion 50 years ago.

[E-boy]

A friend of mine thinks these ghosts are Gastly's, since they can be found in the OC. They would transform then into human, like they did in the animé. (At Maiden's Peak, if I'm not wrong), that episode with the Venusoise.

Another friend thinks they're the old villagers of the OC, and now floating as ghosts in the Mansion, like in the anime too, I don't know the title anymore, but it was with te Ninetales with mythical powers, and with that girl Brock fell in love in. The master of that Ninetales never came back from a journey and they kept, and kept waithing. (I think that trainer was a Brock look-a-like.)

Well, these are just theories, but they're pretty logical, if you think about it.

[Nationalpokedexcompleter]

I think that Mr. Backlot was the old owner of that mansion. And I heard that when you get the national pokedex and go to the old mansion between 8 PM and 4 Am and talk to the tv in the second floor then a secret pokemon appears, but hay Ime not sure you would just have to go there and find out for youre self.
R T M

[kingofgames157]

lol


the secret pokemon is.....


A GHOST!~



I didnt go there yet lol

Is R T M considered a LEgendary?

[kohei]

Is R T M considered a LEgendary?
It's more along the lines of a Snorlax/Sudowoodo. So it's an event Pokemon.

I think that Mr. Backlot was the old owner of that mansion.
This actually makes a ton of sense to me, since his mansion has the same statue as the chateau...

His jolly personality maybe just a facade to cover up his dark past...?

[Haruki Hanai]

His own surname would contradict the idea of that chateau being his - his own mansion right now has a backyard where the chateau lacks one.

Funny how his mansion is doesn't have a staircase.

[Ken-san]

Well, maybe it's the main character's Mom......??

[Drifblim]

It's more along the lines of a Snorlax/Sudowoodo. So it's an event Pokemon.Then can it be explained why the legendary battle tune is assigned to him?

[Lubricus]

His own surname would contradict the idea of that chateau being his - his own mansion right now has a backyard where the chateau lacks one.

Funny how his mansion is doesn't have a staircase.
But you don't know whats behind those doors the maids block now do you.

[MetalMario]

I heard in this forum a theory about these ghosts. Supposedly, the chef poisoned the food and killed the little girl and the old man, saving himself with an Antidote found in the kitchen.

I have some things to add to this theory. I think the little girl was NOT killed. The TM Substitue found at the room where the girl is can tell another girl was killed instead. Also it's strange that, the Old Gateau, which cures status ailments, wasn't used. But, in my opinion, this was what the real girl used to save herself. Maybe the girl is someone else in the game, she could even have grew up because no one says when this happened. Because there are no clues, it could anyone, even Cynthia or Dawn (assuming the male character is the main one).
Maybe Agatha is the escaped daughter! xP

And because it deserves a mention in every Chateau thread, the picture with eyes appears to be a cameo of ROB; if not then at least strongly inspired by his design.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y168/MetalMario201/pkmnstuff/ChateauROB.jpg <=> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/17/Gyromite_ROB.jpg/325px-Gyromite_ROB.jpg

For those who don't know, ROB was a toy robot made by Nintendo which hooked up to the NES. He's credited with saving video games following the post-Atari video game crash in the 80s. Even if the video game market had slowly recovered without ROB, there'd still be no Game Boy. And with no Game Boy, there's no Pokémon. See where this is going? ;)

[Nationalpokedexcompleter]

Actually the real name of it is Rotom. What suckes about it is that when you catch it its on level 15.

[Spaekle Oddberry]

I went in that place late at night with the lights off and it made me paranoid. D: The music is awesome.

Anyway, I like that Mr. Backlot theory. I know there's something untrustworthy about that guy. >:O

[DizzyTech]

Why doesn't anybody check out a Walk Through Walls cheat on those maids? We'll see what's behind them then...

Or, try out a map viewer/editor on a ROM and see if there's a warp.

[wakachamo]

^They have, and nothing's behind those entrances.

[Shiny Umbreon]

Yeah, but talking in an in-universe perspective, what could they be hiding. Maybe he left some part of the mansion for old stuff he doesn't want to remember when living in the Old Chateau. Because of that, he may try to always look happy with his garden.

[Innagadadavida]

I didn't really think much of the place, I never thought there was a story behind it. Maybe we'll get the full scoop in the Anime!



OFFTOPIC:
I Think That The Butler Is Working At The Pokemon Mansion And That The Owner Is The Father, The Little Girl Is One Of The Maids Or Maybe Is Still Haunting The Mansion

Why Do You Capitalize Every Letter In The Sentence Every Time You Make A Post?

[linkinpark187]

yeah, hopefully. i've been trying to figure out what significance the butler had, but i never knew about the girl. guess i'm going to have to check it out. lol

[Legacy]

I noticed one of the ghosts in there when I went to go catch Rotom. I actually thought I just imagined it for a while because I kept going back in but couldn't see it again.

I didn't really think much of the place, I never thought there was a story behind it. Maybe we'll get the full scoop in the Anime!



OFFTOPIC:


Why Do You Capitalize Every Letter In The Sentence Every Time You Make A Post?
Probably because he's typing his entire posts in caps but the forum alters it so that only the first letter is capitalised.

[Ken-san]

Yeah, but talking in an in-universe perspective, what could they be hiding. Maybe he left some part of the mansion for old stuff he doesn't want to remember when living in the Old Chateau. Because of that, he may try to always look happy with his garden.

And maybe he built the Garden to make himself forget what happened there.....
Or is that what you just said?? :D

EDIT: I wonder if Giratina has anything to do with it??

[Mr.Altosax]

I think it's Gardenia's and Cheryl's (I think that's Chansey girl's name) secret base of operations. I bet there's a secret button on the statue that opens a staircase in the floor, that leads to their evil lair. The ghosts are caused by projectors to scare trainers away from the mansion.

[kohei]

Yeah, but talking in an in-universe perspective, what could they be hiding. Maybe he left some part of the mansion for old stuff he doesn't want to remember when living in the Old Chateau. Because of that, he may try to always look happy with his garden.
Mr. Backlot: "Hahaha! Good morning pretty flowers! My, Pichu! You look mighty fine today!"
Maid: "Mr. Backlot? You forgot your morning medication again"
Mr. Backlot: "Hohoho, I'm quite fine if I don't say so myself"
Maid: "But sir... the doctor said..."
Mr. Backlot: "Oh fine. What does he know about having fun anyway?!"

Something like this maybe going on in that mansion of madness... maybe...

[Dogod]

I think it's Gardenia's and Cheryl's (I think that's Chansey girl's name) secret base of operations. I bet there's a secret button on the statue that opens a staircase in the floor, that leads to their evil lair. The ghosts are caused by projectors to scare trainers away from the mansion.

Then how can you catch them?

[AztecSunshine]

the grass leader maybe the little girl cuz the first time you go there after the nat dex you see her there and she just get scared when you do (i think)

[Ken-san]

the grass leader maybe the little girl cuz the first time you go there after the nat dex you see her there and she just get scared when you do (i think)

That's a good idea. I was thinking, maybe, Cheryl was cause she was scared in Eterna Forest, and that's where the Old Chateau is.:\

[Shiny Umbreon]

Well, Gardenia could be the saved sister that feels really bad to enter there and remember everything about her family, so she just pretends to be scared. She even lives steps from there, so she's a good possibilty. Because there are so few hints to the story, I hope the third Sinnoh game (if there is one) expands the Old Chateau's story.

Another thing. Why is the Old Chateau in the middle (actually in the end) of a forest. I mean, who would live in the middle of the road apart from the Berry Master. Especially because it looks like rich people lived there. They should be in Jubilife or Hearthome.

[Ken-san]

Oh, wait, I gotta contradict myself.(maybe) Since you let Cheryl off at the place where the Old Chateau is, maybe she's not scared, she was probably just lonely. If she had been scared, she probably would've asked the D/P hero to take her out.......Right?

[linkinpark187]

i still agree with others that say it might have been something to do with Mr. Backlot. has anyone ever noticed that he and his Butler whisper quite a bit when you talk to him about the Pokémon in his patch (after you get the National Dex)?

[wakachamo]

i still agree with others that say it might have been something to do with Mr. Backlot. has anyone ever noticed that he and his Butler whisper quite a bit when you talk to him about the Pokémon in his patch (after you get the National Dex)?

That's because the Pokémon Mr. Backlot mentions isn't actually originally there. So, the Butler tells Backlot that, and Backlot kinda orders the Butler to get the Pokémon he mentioned onto the garden.

[linkinpark187]

yeah, but Mr. Backlot seems too cheery and has an odd dispositions to me.

[Waffle-San]

This is all freaky, I hope its fully explained later. Future anime episodes or the next Sinnoh game.
Man, i'm intrigued. I like the Giratina theory or maybe thats just cause i couldn't stop sweating when i was in Turnback Cave, man i hate that place.

[furix]

So, do you think the anime will actually cover the Old Cheatu? Or did they ever cover it? I mean, they already went through Eterna Forest, so you'd think they would of covered it there.

[Shiny Umbreon]

That's because the Pokémon Mr. Backlot mentions isn't actually originally there. So, the Butler tells Backlot that, and Backlot kinda orders the Butler to get the Pokémon he mentioned onto the garden.

Hey! I didn't know what they were saying or why the guy went out of the room. *Hits myself*

[Mr.Altosax]

Then how can you catch them?


I meant the human ghosts. Obviously Cheryl and Gardenia have captured ghost pokemon from the Pokemon Tower and bred them inside the Old Chateau. Except for the one Rotom the brought. That way either the ghost pokemon would scare them, or once they found Rotom they'd think that the trainer had found the secret of the Old Chateau, and they'd leave.

Think about it, Cheryl and Gardenia are the only two people besides you that have been seen near the Old Chateau. And isn't it a bit suspicious that there are so many pairs of trainers throught the forest, obviously hired hands to keep feeble trainers from passing through the forest. Cheryl would guide any trainer with actual potential right past the Chateua, right to Eterna forest so they wouldn't notice. Instead they'd only see some trees scattered among a worn fence. Though once they got to Eterna City the average trainer would be too occupied battling Cheryl's accomplice, noneother than the gym leader Gardenia, and forget all about the mysterious fence.

[Short Range]

Ghosts aren't always dead people. They can be living people too. A ghost is created when a violent event happens such as a murder or killing spree. The energy from the event known as "A, B, C, D and E" energy respectivly marks itself like a journal in time. If someone looks at the spot this event takes place they will see the after image thus resulting in a ghost. If something bad happened to someone in the game then that means they could have left an after image. Get it? Sorry if this is complicated. I hope it helps you.

[Shiny Umbreon]

Ghosts aren't always dead people. They can be living people too. A ghost is created when a violent event happens such as a murder or killing spree. The energy from the event known as "A, B, C, D and E" energy respectivly marks itself like a journal in time. If someone looks at the spot this event takes place they will see the after image thus resulting in a ghost. If something bad happened to someone in the game then that means they could have left an after image. Get it? Sorry if this is complicated. I hope it helps you.

I got it, though I had never heard of it. This means a ghost is not a 'presence' (like a dead person's spirit) but a "video"?

[41victory]

I guess thats what hes trying to say

[Synesis]

I really hope they expand on this story, it's freaky and would be a great follow up storyline.

[Short Range]

Yeah that's what a ghost basicly is. A sort of video. Though a spirit is someone who has somehow failed to depart to the afterlife, maybe if they have forgotten a cherished item or need to expose someone as a murdrer...

[VerdeKnight]

Yeah that's what a ghost basicly is. A sort of video. Though a spirit is someone who has somehow failed to depart to the afterlife, maybe if they have forgotten a cherished item or need to expose someone as a murdrer...

Your theory is dead wrong. Ghosts aren't videos, and when a violent event occurs, there's no sort of place in time for it besides history. No one can exactly "view" or re-experience something in the past. Don't give me any remarks with time machines in them, those don't exist in Sinnoh or anywhere else.

Energy from an event happening? The only energy that comes from an event is natural shock. Not some "Aura of an event."

[Flame Claw]

Think of previous games. Mr Fuji may have something to do with it. Or the tower where you get Suicune in crystal.

[Short Range]

Your theory is dead wrong. Ghosts aren't videos, and when a violent event occurs, there's no sort of place in time for it besides history. No one can exactly "view" or re-experience something in the past. Don't give me any remarks with time machines in them, those don't exist in Sinnoh or anywhere else.

Energy from an event happening? The only energy that comes from an event is natural shock. Not some "Aura of an event."

Wow you seem nice. Especially since the Sarcasm detector is going off the scale. Thanks for the feed-back. Plus it's not my theory.

[SkywolfDragon]

All I know is that the old chateau is based off The original old chateau in france

[Short Range]

Does that mean that there are other places based off real areas in Pokemon Diamond and Pearl?

[SkywolfDragon]

Yeah.kanto was based on a place in Japan that was named Kanto

[Short Range]

Was named Kanto? What do you mean Was? Or is it still?

[SkywolfDragon]

Still named Kanto. my bad!!!!

[AztecSunshine]

all the raigons are from japanese places hoen sinnoh johto

[Short Range]

Pretty cool but I don't really think a Region named Tokyo would be cool. Lol just kidding.

[Mr.Altosax]

Well we're getting off topic, but the regions aren't based off of cities, they're based off of actual regions. The Kanto Region is the obvious one, then all of the others are pretty much the exact, or nearly exact shape of other regions. (But you have to rotate Hoenn)

As for the Old Chateau, yes it probably is based off the one in France. I actually saw a movie called "The Ninth Gate" with Johnny Depp last night, and it had a Chateau. I don't know if it was the Old Chateau, but it was used as a meeting place for an evil cult. Perhaps a cult led by...Cheryl and Gardenia?!

I'm not giving up my theory.

[Shiny Umbreon]

According Short Range's idea about ghosts being "videos", the girl can be alive. The only two sister (or cousin or whatever) pair I'm thinking of is Agatha and Bertha. They look almost the same, though Agatha seems to be older. Why they live in different regions now? I don't know, but I know Kanto is near Sinnoh.

[Short Range]

Not my Idea though. Came from a book called... umm... I think something like... "How to track ghosts: The unexplaned" or something like that...

[bloo14]

ok heres my two cents

1.rember mr.backlot has a son or daughter in front of the mansion

maybe thats where the girl in the chateu comes into play

2.the picture that looks like R.O.B is a clue

the murder might have been 20 years ago when Gardinia was a child

[Feebasfreak]

hmmmmmm maby the pokemon statue that the rich guy (4gets his name) holds the secret of the old chateau.... i have allways wondered what it said.....

[FoxHound!]

There's always the off chance that ya know, they're just ghosts put in there to add a more spooky aspect to Pokemon, dealing with the issue of death in a more hands on way.

I don't think either mansion is connected, I assume that those doors that the maids block are put in there just to raise suspicion and curiosity for the gamer(s).

[Lil-Dill]

The old Chateau is really scary. I was in it last night and saw the butler and the girl. FREAKY. But I dont get some posts here is tht since when are ghosts REAL in pkmn games. And since when are they videos...o.0

[FoxHound!]

The old Chateau is really scary. I was in it last night and saw the butler and the girl. FREAKY. But I dont get some posts here is tht since when are ghosts REAL in pkmn games. And since when are they videos...o.0

Since this topic I guess :p

But yeah, I'm yet to spy the girl or butler, but I did see the ol' painting.

[Jirachi3]

OFF TOPIC: RANDOM TESTING OF THE POST ALTERATION FEATURE

On topic: My theory is that it was the butler in the kitchen with the knife!

[Short Range]

Ghosts aren't videoes. They are only like videoes 'cause some of them can't see what's going on around them. To the ghost it seems like they have just been reliving the past. Spirits are the ones that notice things and run away when they see someone because they are aware of their surrondings. Again this is from that ghost book I read.

[PattySweets4]

Here's my theory:

The girl had actually a twin sister whom was kept in the attic because she was slightly less smart so she was shun from her family and fed every week the pokemon that the old man would hunt each sunday with the butler. The butler did not know of the twin sister, until one day, he found out. Outraged by the atrocious actions of this family he freed the twin sister (who never learned anything about ethics and morals) who, as soon as she was released, attacked the butler with fury and killed him. She then diguised herself as the butler (she'd been plotting this for many many years) and snuck some poison into the food of her sister. Little did she know that she had put too much poison, so much poison that the little girls body completely rejected the poison. The little girl noticed that the butler was in fact her twin sister and she made certain that she would never do such things again. The father finally realized what his actions had caused in this family and poisoned himself. The little girl soon followed the fate of her father when she fell of a cliff when she went for a bicycle ride.

[FoxHound!]

Here's my theory:

The girl had actually a twin sister whom was kept in the attic because she was slightly less smart so she was shun from her family and fed every week the pokemon that the old man would hunt each sunday with the butler. The butler did not know of the twin sister, until one day, he found out. Outraged by the atrocious actions of this family he freed the twin sister (who never learned anything about ethics and morals) who, as soon as she was released, attacked the butler with fury and killed him. She then diguised herself as the butler (she'd been plotting this for many many years) and snuck some poison into the food of her sister. Little did she know that she had put too much poison, so much poison that the little girls body completely rejected the poison. The little girl noticed that the butler was in fact her twin sister and she made certain that she would never do such things again. The father finally realized what his actions had caused in this family and poisoned himself. The little girl soon followed the fate of her father when she fell of a cliff when she went for a bicycle ride.

Wait what??

Where'd you get that idea from? You have quiet the imagination.

[Ken-san]

One question, sorta off-topic, but where did the "falling off a cliff" come in?

[AztecSunshine]

what? lol that was funny but as asked before why did you but the fall from a cliff? lol

[Short Range]

It makes sense but it's kinda weird too.

[codymr14]

here is what i think happened . the butler in the rich dudes mansion is the cook from the old chateau who killed the butler from the old chateau and the girl. and rotom is the ghost of the little girl. and the butler had those 2 girls hide the bodies of the dead people in the 2 rooms that are blocked

[Punishment]

Well here is my little idea. Chateau is a French word and who else is remotely close to speaking French in the Pokemon world? None other then the gym leader Fantina of Hearthome City herself. Isn't also just a coincidence she uses umm well ghost Pokemon?

[Ken-san]

That's a good idea. Maybe she named it that because its a "ghostly" past.

[PattySweets4]

Well... if you notice, when the little girl's ghost appears in the house, it floats south on the second floor indicating that she floated downwards to her demise, thus hinting that she fell of a cliff. Or that she can't go through walls. Either way, she's creepy.

[Ken-san]

Oh. Now I see your point. The Butler was floating around the table, maybe he ate something poisoned?

[FoxHound!]

Well... if you notice, when the little girl's ghost appears in the house, it floats south on the second floor indicating that she floated downwards to her demise, thus hinting that she fell of a cliff. Or that she can't go through walls. Either way, she's creepy.

I really fail to see how you could of incorporated a cliff in there using logic.

She';s leaving the room, nothing suggests she falls.

[SkywolfDragon]

Old cheatou is weird at night

[Shiny Umbreon]

Here's my theory:

The girl had actually a twin sister whom was kept in the attic because she was slightly less smart so she was shun from her family and fed every week the pokemon that the old man would hunt each sunday with the butler. The butler did not know of the twin sister, until one day, he found out. Outraged by the atrocious actions of this family he freed the twin sister (who never learned anything about ethics and morals) who, as soon as she was released, attacked the butler with fury and killed him. She then diguised herself as the butler (she'd been plotting this for many many years) and snuck some poison into the food of her sister. Little did she know that she had put too much poison, so much poison that the little girls body completely rejected the poison. The little girl noticed that the butler was in fact her twin sister and she made certain that she would never do such things again. The father finally realized what his actions had caused in this family and poisoned himself. The little girl soon followed the fate of her father when she fell of a cliff when she went for a bicycle ride.

Something wrong. The proof of the sisters/twins, apart from the Substitute TM, is that there's a room with one bed for the father and one with two beds for the sisters. Your story looks like taken from a TV show about ghosts, or you have a lot of imagination, yet, as any theory, it could be true except for the fact I mentioned.

Well here is my little idea. Chateau is a French word and who else is remotely close to speaking French in the Pokemon world? None other then the gym leader Fantina of Hearthome City herself. Isn't also just a coincidence she uses umm well ghost Pokemon?

You seem to think better than any of us. How didn't we notice? Not so much of a proof, but a good point. Also, Fantina always looked much older than others to me, maybe because this happened long time ago.

[Mr.Altosax]

Ok I just realized something that I'll pitch in something that isn't included in my Gardenia, Cheryl, and now Fantina theory. You mentioned that the butler may have eaten something poisoned. Here's my two cents.

Perhaps he wasn't a butler. A Chateau is a fancy mansion, and very wealthy people would have lived there. Very wealthy important people sometimes have people check their food for poison by tasting it, so they won't get poisoned. Perhaps the man floating around the table was one of these tasters who was killed in an attempt to kill the owner of the mansion.

[Short Range]

Ok I just realized something that I'll pitch in something that isn't included in my Gardenia, Cheryl, and now Fantina theory. You mentioned that the butler may have eaten something poisoned. Here's my two cents.

Perhaps he wasn't a butler. A Chateau is a fancy mansion, and very wealthy people would have lived there. Very wealthy important people sometimes have people check their food for poison by tasting it, so they won't get poisoned. Perhaps the man floating around the table was one of these tasters who was killed in an attempt to kill the owner of the mansion.

That's genius. Just plain Genius. I've gathered a list of likely Family Members of the Old Chateau.

Mother - ???
Father - ???
Dead Girl - Gardina's Sister
Butler - ???
??? - Pokemon Mansion Guy (What's his name?)

Add more if you like. This is just my theory. I saw Gardina looking up at the mansion and I talked to her. Maybe she was going to see her dead sister? To maybe ask for forgivness? What has Gardina been up too? Did she poison her own family?

[Shiny Umbreon]

Gardenia looks like a normal person to me. She could be embarassed about her past, but it's not something she'd hide, so, yeah, she could have poisoned her own family, but it's not like we see her living in an inherited mansion or anything. And she'd be crazy to do that, or at least have a moody personality, but she looks normal to me. She's involved in something about the incident (it's not just fear to enter the chateau), but I can't think of how she is.

[SkywolfDragon]

Here is what I think:


The old cheatau Was a place where a rich family lived in. but both parents were far to busy to be with there daughter. She was always left home with her Uncle/butler. then one night, the electrical appliences started to spark, thus causing the house to go on fire. killing both the daughter and bultler. Then later it was found out that a pokemon did this (ROTOM). The parents never found out and have never returned

[Always and Never]

Why would I parent forget about their child?

The house looks pretty old, and if there's a TV in there, it has to be at least 1950...

Just becuase Gardenia is in the forest, doesn't mean she has a past history of manslaughter! If I was walking in a forest and got accused of that, I'd be really mad.

The old chateau is starting to creep the hell out of me...

[PattySweets4]

Alright I'm back to defend my theory. I mentioned the cliff in particular because if you notice in the actual map of sinnoh (the cool 3-d one) they live in a rather high ground. You can't rule out the possiblility of her falling of a cliff happening.

[Mr.Altosax]

Could Rotom have belonged to one of the residents? Once the Chateau was abandoned...for whatever reason it could have been left behind.

[Sabaku no Gaara]

I think that the statue in the OC has something to do with Mr. Backlot's statue that's being guarded. He may be spying in the mansion from the statue in his mansion. This isn't very logical but, hey, the statue in the OC says "it seems to be looking back at you."

XD

[Shiny Umbreon]

Why would I parent forget about their child?

The house looks pretty old, and if there's a TV in there, it has to be at least 1950...

Just becuase Gardenia is in the forest, doesn't mean she has a past history of manslaughter! If I was walking in a forest and got accused of that, I'd be really mad.

The old chateau is starting to creep the hell out of me...

Well, Gardenia acts in a really strange way when talking about the mansion. It's as if she was scared, but she's definitely hiding something.

About Rotom, it must be from another region, brought by the family that lived there. For example, you get Jynx in R/B/Y even if you couldn't catch it, so it must have been brought from the Ice Path. Rotom must be the same, coming from another region, I mean. I don't think Rotom has to do with anything about this, because it's not even a legendary, it's a regular Pokémon the family had there.

[ultima2096]

The little girl whos name is harriet potter (you find this out by going to at least 16 nintendo events in at least 20 countries) was locked in that room for the most part of her childhood her parents cared more about there pokemon than for her (esp one in particular). every day she would hear the happy noises or joy coming from the room next to her (painting o' eyes room).
One day the butler feeling sorry for her let her out of her room, this was the downfall of the residents of the chateau, as the girl heard the key turning for the first time she could remember dashed for the door holding a knife she had make out of all the paper and cardboard on the floor (harriet was a origamist, skilled and destined to kill the pokemon who cannot be named).
The butler side stepped her and called for hedwig, she flew into the room next door brandishing her origami knife. the pokemon in the room stopped and glared! she waited, even though she hated them all, she wanted to hear the cry of that pokemon that her parents neglected her for...
here it came.. the pokemon who must not be named uttered its cry.
as she went into a mad fury, the pokemon tried to defend but all those in her way got cut down.
Then the pokemon who must not be named uttered its final cry under a brilliant white light. this was just as her parents wondered in, casually carrying a pokedex. the pokedex already speaking followed up with "...once this pokemon has been defeated it will loose its soul and evolve into the ghost type. Rotom"
The girl stood still as this electrical entity arose from the pokemom she had slain.
Rotom let of two sparks and disapeared, immediatly haunter and gastly overwelled the humans and put them to sleep to feed of there dreams until the day they died.
Smirking slighty the butler turned back into its pokemon form. The gengar thought of how it had hypnotised the young girls parents and sunk back into its favourite picture. waiting for its next vitims, beware the next time you turn your back to the gengar in the photo.

a rather long rendition of how the events unfolded.
unfortunatly i have to attend another two nintendo events and buy six other pokemon games and mystery gift with queen elizabeth before i find out the story of why ppl built the chateau in the woods and not a min up the road. they could of taken that spot where team galactic was and saved us all some trouble.

[Mr.Altosax]

Why does everyone think that the statue has anything to do with it. It says what it says because it's just an eerie room, and in a creepy place like that it would seem like that to anyone. Hasn't the same statue been in a lot of places? Like...all over Kanto?

[Waffle-San]

I'm more intrigued by the one your not aloud to touch in the Pokemon mansion, i have so many theory's but I just want it to be solved, even though this is fun. I like the french conection theory though, because Chateau is an french word meaning castle.

[Gymnotide]

You actually can touch the Statue in the Pokemon Mansion. You just have to wait for the guard to go on break.

[Eos Aduro]

OK BIG THEORY! Ok, so u find creepy girl #1 in wayward cave. #2 You can battle with her in the tower, and finally #3, SHE LOOKS LIKE FLOATY GIRL!! NOT A CONICIDENCE!! Me and Mr.May16 have discovered this! Ok, so way i see it, yeah sure hutler parenst everyone dying theories Rotom appearing, the girl wasn't killed, only so sad about her parwents and best friend Worchesterpantsaholkiicfreirica the butler were dead, part of her soul spereated and started to wander forever young, but the rest of her grew up to be GARDENIA!

[Waffle-San]

You actually can touch the Statue in the Pokemon Mansion. You just have to wait for the guard to go on break.

When does he go on break??

[Mr.Altosax]

About the other statue in Mr. Backlot's Mansion and why he doesn't want you touching it...It's probably very expensive, I wouldn't want 10 year olds messing around touching my pricey statues either.

[AztecSunshine]

did any body notice that there is only one statue in the chateau no one would but only one statue they well but get 2 and but 1 in each side i think that mr.backlot took the other statue with him and thats why he dosn't want you to touch it

[Claire Bennet]

OMG I GOT A IDEA Gardenia shes got a posion pokemon !!ROSERADE!! and she grew the tress to stop others

WAIT why dont we google this place seing as its based off a real mansion see what happened there

EDIT: somebody said it burnt impossible becuase the books and beds and TV isnt burnt

EDIT:Cherly her chansey has natural cure so chansey used it on cherly and Gardenia

[Naito]

Well, this Old Chateau seems pretty interesting. I'm gonna take a guess it's gonna be involved in a pokemon movie with the afterlife, Rotom, Giratina, and either Cheryl, Fantina, or Gardina.

Most likely Gardina is hiding something about her past involving that Chateau, possibly she's involved with the ghosts, or somehow it's linked with Giratina... Well hopefully there's some way to clear things up, possibly a 3rd game involving the Old Chateu, or the anime/manga.

[Claire Bennet]

3rd what were the other two?

[Naito]

Diamond and Pearl involved the Old Chateu. I know they're the only 2 games set in Sinnoh, however I'm talking about if they expanded the Old Chateu story (like how they expanded the side-story about the 3 legendary beasts in Pokemon Crystal) in an 3rd Sinnoh game.

[Claire Bennet]

Oh ok lol I thought u meant if other pokemon games they were involved

[Short Range]

If there were two statues originaly in the OC then that could mean it was the former second Gym! And Gardina having Roserade? That could be proof that she poisoned the two. And that's why she killed them! To make her new Gym! I see it now!

XD (Jokes people but good theory.) XD

[Claire Bennet]

See my hypothesis does have proof =) And I reckon Cheryl and Gardenia fought to be Gym leader (Cheryl was also poisoning them) and them when she lost shes afraid to go near the gym by herself

[Short Range]

I'm with Peach! Go the Gym Theory! But do you think that other Grass Pokemon girl is in with this too?

[Claire Bennet]

Hmm...yes before you fight Gardenia you fight those girls, they're hiding maybe for a reason?

[Mr.Altosax]

I think it's Gardenia's and Cheryl's (I think that's Chansey girl's name) secret base of operations. I bet there's a secret button on the statue that opens a staircase in the floor, that leads to their evil lair. The ghosts are caused by projectors to scare trainers away from the mansion.

The human ghosts, that is. Obviously Cheryl and Gardenia have captured ghost pokemon from the Pokemon Tower and bred them inside the Old Chateau. Except for the one Rotom the brought. That way either the ghost pokemon would scare them, or once they found Rotom they'd think that the trainer had found the secret of the Old Chateau, and they'd leave.

Think about it, Cheryl and Gardenia are the only two people besides you that have been seen near the Old Chateau. And isn't it a bit suspicious that there are so many pairs of trainers throught the forest, obviously hired hands to keep feeble trainers from passing through the forest. Cheryl would guide any trainer with actual potential right past the Chateua, right to Eterna forest so they wouldn't notice. Instead they'd only see some trees scattered among a worn fence. Though once they got to Eterna City the average trainer would be too occupied battling Cheryl's accomplice, noneother than the gym leader Gardenia, and forget all about the mysterious fence.

*cough* It looks like some people are finally catching on to my theory.

[Claire Bennet]

My theory: Gardenia's Roserade uses poison powder in the food and the butler dies but like most ghost things cant get eternal peace until his done this deed, that deed being help you find out Gardenia killed em all.
All the gym trainers in gardenia are hiding for a good reason?

[Eos Aduro]

Uuuuuuh, how do we know that cheryl has ANYTHING to do with this? maybe she just wan't help getting through the forest because her chansey is like a support pokemon, not a great attacker.

[Shiny Umbreon]

The Old Gateau, the item that you find in the Old Chateau, cures status problems. "Gateau" means cake in french which would normally make me believe this was the poisoned food, but its effect contradicts this. At least we can be sure there was a celebration, because the Gateau was left untouched until DIamond found it. (Who would eat this 50-year-old cake?)

Abuot the statue at the Trophy Garden Mansion, it must have nothing because you can go from 2 PM to 5PM (or so) and you only get a message like this: "Wow. A Pokémon statue...Oops, you got your fingerprints there..." It's not like, "This statue seems to hide something" or "A secret switch? What would it be for?" But still I agree it was from the Old Chateau. One would put one in each side.

[Eos Aduro]

I still stick to my theory that Wayward cave girl and Float out of Chateau girl are the same... person?

[Naito]

Please show me this Wayward Cave girl's sprite. I still have to find my DS' charger, as my DS needs to be recharged, so I can't go to the Wayward Cave at the moment (no one I know has a working DS anyways).

[Shiny Umbreon]

I still stick to my theory that Wayward cave girl and Float out of Chateau girl are the same... person?

They look the same because the games has one sprite for each "age category". It's not like they did it like that. It's the only little girl sprite. (apart from the Tuber)

[Eos Aduro]

Ah, but how do we not know that EVERY lttle girl is a ghost, hmm, hmm?

[Shiny Umbreon]

Ah, but how do we not know that EVERY lttle girl is a ghost, hmm, hmm?

Because you can talk and see them. The one in the chateau floats and disappears. And moving the legs is a non-ghost signal in my opinion, considering how the butler and the ghost girl move.

[Punishment]

I always thought how it was weird how the Weyward girl was lost like that.

[Myoko-chan]

>_< this topic freaks me out

[Claire Bennet]

Lol well theres no updates with the mansion but I'll continue to research =P

[ultima2096]

ive decided the old chateau is an ideal place for noob bullying!
-noob "ZOMG, 1 w3nt 1n 2 th3 ch8t38u & th373 w85 a g1rl 1n th3 r00m n3xt t0 m3"
-normal person "what da hell does that say?!"
-noob "sorry i forgot not everyone speaks noob, i went into the old chateau and a girl walked out the door in the room next to me, what does that mean"
-normal person "Really!!! you have unlocked the secret glitch. quick reset your game. start a new one SAVE BEFORE LEAVING YOUR HOUSE and when you pick your starting pokemon piplup will be arceus, turtwig will be shaymin and chimcarr will be darkrai."
-noob "ZOMGGGGGG, gona do it now.. bye"
normal person "stupid noob..."

[Eos Aduro]

Ok, so we have decdided that ghosts can't talk/move their legs now? I mean, isn't it kind of creepy, random girl, creepy cave, random creepy cave? I mean, maube the ghost split in two?

[Mizer]

Can anyone say Celebi? Even though it likes to appear in good times, it could always appear in bad times. Maybe a Celebi can provide some insight on this.

[Mr.Altosax]

The girl in Wayward cave could have something to do with it, though I believe that she's just a regular little girl who was playing around and got lost. I doubt that the ghost of the little girl is any person in the game, namely because she's already dead. No one noted a sister, though the most likely candidate would be Gardenia to have any relation because she was standing outside the Chateau.

[Eos Aduro]

The girl in Wayward cave could have something to do with it, though I believe that she's just a regular little girl who was playing around and got lost. I doubt that the ghost of the little girl is any person in the game, namely because she's already dead. No one noted a sister, though the most likely candidate would be Gardenia to have any relation because she was standing outside the Chateau.

Gardenia has probably got something to do with it, unless shes like all of us who just go in there to explore. Maybe the ghost girl was just a normal girl wearing rollerblades, who knows?

[Mr.Altosax]

Well Hms are pretty rare, and you just happen to get all of them...So I bet just a few people actually get to see the Old Chateau since you have to use Cut to gain access to it.

[Mizer]

HMs are essentially one of a kind, but they are Soooo easy to get.

[Pocket Monster Researcher Archer]

the old ghateau. that is a very cool place =]. yes you require cut to gain access to it. it is also littered with ghost type pokemon and home to rotom. it is a very good place to train up your pokemons sp attk because the pokemon their carry many sp attk evs. also if you have emerald version in your gba slot, you can find wild gengars in the room with the painting. have fun =]

[Lone--Wanderer]

Ah, the Old Chateau. The only ghost I've seen there is of a man in the dining room, who turned to my left and floated away...freaked me out, especially since it was nighttime and raining.

XD

I'm such a loser.

Anyways...I think Gardenia may have murdered all the people there, and she was standing outside because she had just finished burying the switchblade she killed them with. The Chansey she has was stolen from one of her victims and won't obey her, so she has to get some other trainer to go with her through the forest to get out.

[Mizer]

Gardenia never had a Chansey... she was the Gym Leader of the Grass Gym.

[Pocket Monster Researcher Archer]

yeah. unless her roserade can transform, which im pretty sure sit cant,she didnt have a chansey

[Shiny Umbreon]

Lone Wanderer means Cheryl obviously, but Gardenia looks more suspicious to me and most people here.

Ok, so we have decdided that ghosts can't talk/move their legs now?

Maybe the ghost girl was just a normal girl wearing rollerblades, who knows?

The proof they can't move/talk: if they could, they would. And why would the ghost of the Old Chateau go to the Wayward cave? And without her rollerblades?

[Lone--Wanderer]

XD

Did I say Gardenia? I keep mixing up her and Cheryl...I'm such a loser.

[Claire Bennet]

Maybe the wayward cave girl split in two? Her psyical self and spirit self?

[Eos Aduro]

Lone Wanderer means Cheryl obviously, but Gardenia looks more suspicious to me and most people here.





The proof they can't move/talk: if they could, they would. And why would the ghost of the Old Chateau go to the Wayward cave? And without her rollerblades?

Well, if u could float when no one was around, would u. i would. And shhe didnt have anyone to talk to. And maybe she was chasing a gible to kill and play with, i dunno. I just have a vibe taht they're the same person/entity or split perosn/entity.

[Short Range]

>_< this topic freaks me out

Lol, same here. It's probably the vibe I'm getting...

I love your Avi XD

Anyways... About this rollerskate business. I saw that in some book or something. About someone tricking the police with a white sheet over their head and rollerskates. :P

[Shiny Umbreon]

And beint a ghost also means participating in the Battle Tower with ghost poké balls and Pokémon? Really she interacts too much to be a ghost.

[Eos Aduro]

Maybe shes a zombie! Now THAT would freak me out!

[FoxHound]

I duno if this has allready been posted but the escaped daughter was that gym leader that you see hanging out around the old chateau before you talk to her and she leaves. Maybe she misses the house

[Eos Aduro]

I duno if this has allready been posted but the escaped daughter was that gym leader that you see hanging out around the old chateau before you talk to her and she leaves. Maybe she misses the house

Yeah, read the rest, about three pages of posting was debating that. And I think Gardenia was just looking at the house cause she likes going in and freaking herslef out like all of us.

[Shiny Umbreon]

Ok, Zombies are a different level.

I don't deny the girl is a zombie/ghost, but I can't accept the theory either because there is no proof of anything. There isn't even a connection between them. Is not something we should discard, but I don't see how you connect this girl.

[Mr.Altosax]

She says that they look the same, but that's because they're based on the same Little Girl Sprite Model that's used for every little girl in the game.

[Shiny Umbreon]

^Yeah, that's what I told The Chatot Pirate, but he sometimes goes offtopic (like saying "how don't you every girl is a ghost?")

[PirateBounty]

Ok is it more or are all our suspects females only? The butler remember

[Eos Aduro]

She says that they look the same, but that's because they're based on the same Little Girl Sprite Model that's used for every little girl in the game.

Ok, one Im a GUY! and Im just throwing out ideas here. And Im thinking that the butler may not be a butler, cause there isnt a set butler sprite, except for the fact that Mr.Backlots butler is the same, maybe hes a grandfather or something.

[Shiny Umbreon]

No grandfather. His father if it was 50 years ago. Question: Mr. Backlot doesn't have children or wife. If so, where are they?

[Mr.Altosax]

Sorry Chatot...It was probably the pic of Katara. (I hadn't read it). And I'm also sorry if it came off rude toward you, I was just trying to explaining that to Shiny Umbreon and I was PO'd at the moment.

And Backlot's family could be off to the sides of his mansion. Though the way he loves that garden so much, I don't think anyone would stay in a relationship with him.

The statue the Backlot has, that is most likely from the Chateau could have been bought at an auction or something. How it got there, I'm not sure though.

[Myoko-chan]

So...I took a visit to the old chateau yesterday night, and I think the theory about the twin sisters are correct, because there is 2 beds, and you would also find the TM Substitute at the place of the ghost girl. The only problem is...where is the owner/father's wife and butler? There is only 3 beds, 2 in 1 room, and the last one in the other room. 1 Bed can only fit 1 person...(unless the D/P heroes are fat lol) Ok, you can assume the butler had his own house to sleep him since he was working for such a rich family. You can't think that the owner's wife would sleep on the floor...

[Eos Aduro]

Sorry Chatot...It was probably the pic of Katara. (I hadn't read it). And I'm also sorry if it came off rude toward you, I was just trying to explaining that to Shiny Umbreon and I was PO'd at the moment.

And Backlot's family could be off to the sides of his mansion. Though the way he loves that garden so much, I don't think anyone would stay in a relationship with him.

The statue the Backlot has, that is most likely from the Chateau could have been bought at an auction or something. How it got there, I'm not sure though.

no prob, and the staute is definately from the Chateau, its the only way it makes sense. And if, u tyhink about it, where all the rest of the furniture in the chateau, I know it was supposed to belong to rich poeple, but there are so many books it looks like a research facility, wait, hmmmmmm, what if it WAS! Maybe its the original place where they started to try to make Mextwo, and then plasma escaped from an experiment and leaked intoa TV, Rotom! And the girl/butler are like,m holograms to scare people off.

[Hinamori_Momo]

no prob, and the staute is definately from the Chateau, its the only way it makes sense. And if, u tyhink about it, where all the rest of the furniture in the chateau, I know it was supposed to belong to rich poeple, but there are so many books it looks like a research facility, wait, hmmmmmm, what if it WAS! Maybe its the original place where they started to try to make Mextwo, and then plasma escaped from an experiment and leaked intoa TV, Rotom! And the girl/butler are like,m holograms to scare people off.
i agree that the Old Chateau could have been a lab and plasma leaking into the TV. Rotom is the "Plasma Pokemon". the plasma leak may have been from Mewtwo shaking the lab upon its escape.

[Myoko-chan]

I have so much proof that labs/mewtwo isn't involved...
-Mewtwo was created in Giovanni's Gym (aka in Kanto)
-Plasma? Mewtwo only needed the dna of mew to be created.
-Yes I know Rotom is a "Plasma Pokemon" but alot of those classifications lie, such as Arcanine, it was classified as a "Legendary" Pokemon.

[Hinamori_Momo]

I have so much proof that labs/mewtwo isn't involved...
-Mewtwo was created in Giovanni's Gym (aka in Kanto)
-Plasma? Mewtwo only needed the dna of mew to be created.
-Yes I know Rotom is a "Plasma Pokemon" but alot of those classifications lie, such as Arcanine, it was classified as a "Legendary" Pokemon.
okay i forgot that mewtwo was made in kanto but the rotom part of the theory is still valid since its made of pure plasma

[Eos Aduro]

Ok, Mewtwo was a bit out there. Still, a lab could make sense. Secluded, lots of books, ghosts to scare people off, leaking plasma... Maybe theres a basement. Gardenia=head scientist, cheryll=something else, maybe a clone or something, like how mewtwo was cloning pokemonin the first movie.

[Shiny Umbreon]

I have so much proof that labs/mewtwo isn't involved...
-Mewtwo was created in Giovanni's Gym (aka in Kanto)
-Plasma? Mewtwo only needed the dna of mew to be created.
-Yes I know Rotom is a "Plasma Pokemon" but alot of those classifications lie, such as Arcanine, it was classified as a "Legendary" Pokemon.

Not in Giovanni's Gym. It was in the Cinnabar Mansion, but, yeah, one region is far enough. And I agree there is no plasma needed.

Ok, Mewtwo was a bit out there. Still, a lab could make sense. Secluded, lots of books, ghosts to scare people off, leaking plasma... Maybe theres a basement. Gardenia=head scientist, cheryll=something else, maybe a clone or something, like how mewtwo was cloning pokemonin the first movie.

Surely Mewtwo was a bit out there, but I like that idea about it being a lab with strange experiments beign made, and if you think, it's kind of hidden to be a rich family's house. Gardenia may know something about it because of the way she acts, but she can't be a scientist or anything because she wouldn't tell you about the Chateau in that case. But I wonder what kind of experiments could have they been doing to end up killing two people and maybe even creating a Plasma Pokémon.

NOTE: Beware when making stories about Rotom because it's not a legendary Pokémon. It's not the only one because it can breed. Now this just applies as long as Rotom is the first of its species OR if it's the result of experiments with another existing Pokémon. The latter possibility somehow contradicts its ability to breed with Ditto and making other Rotom, though.

[FreshOranges]

In Canalave, when you save the little child, someone tells you that two people died while making nightmares because of Darkrai... Maybe this could have something to do with the Old Chateau?

[Eos Aduro]

In Canalave, when you save the little child, someone tells you that two people died while making nightmares because of Darkrai... Maybe this could have something to do with the Old Chateau?

Plausibly, but Darkrai has nothing to do with the Chateau, unless the ghosts inhabited it. Im sure its a lab now though, just think, ok beds are few, LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG table with a lot of chairs for only like, four people, books everywhere, plasma, creepy eyes picture. It all adds up, well, sort of...

[Ken-san]

Ok, this is a bit far-fetched (OK, a lot far-fetched), but I think I know (not for a fact) how Rotom was made. Cheryll and Gardenia were working in the lab. Some plasma spilled, and, w/out them knowing got into the computer that they had. It created a virus, and the virus was
so dangerous that they shut everything down and started spreading rumors that it was haunted. Meanwhile the virus materialized and became Rotom.It traveled through the electricity wires, went into the TV, and projected some ghosts so it would be left alone. Wow thats the longest thing I've ever typed.

[Eos Aduro]

Ok, this is a bit far-fetched (OK, a lot far-fetched), but I think I know (not for a fact) how Rotom was made. Cheryll and Gardenia were working in the lab. Some plasma spilled, and, w/out them knowing got into the computer that they had. It created a virus, and the virus was
so dangerous that they shut everything down and started spreading rumors that it was haunted. Meanwhile the virus materialized and became Rotom.It traveled through the electricity wires, went into the TV, and projected some ghosts so it would be left alone. Wow thats the longest thing I've ever typed.

Uuuuuh, basic theory maks a lot of sense, but the place IS haunted by ghost Pokemon remember, and butler/little girl, but now thats debatebull, if they are holograms, or some form of security.

[Ken-san]

Ok, just thought of something. What if Cheryll and Gardenia projected the ghosts for security, and them Rotom made them real while he was still a virus.

[ultima2096]

[...] but now thats debatebull, if they are holograms, or some form of security.
HAHAHA~ROFL!!! some form of security...

imagine that... just chilling out doing a bit of EV training or looking for a gengar. Then all of a sudden BANG, the little girls entered the room and starts trying to mow you down with a machine gun then "... has blacked out" and your outside eterna pokemon center

sorry i have a very strong visual of this happening

[Eos Aduro]

HAHAHA~ROFL!!! some form of security...

imagine that... just chilling out doing a bit of EV training or looking for a gengar. Then all of a sudden BANG, the little girls entered the room and starts trying to mow you down with a machine gun then "... has blacked out" and your outside eterna pokemon center

sorry i have a very strong visual of this happening

Do they even HAVE guns in the Pokemon world? Ive always wondered why its not like, You beat a Team Whatever GRunt, why dont they just shoot u? And I mean SCARING away security

[Champhev]

You can also find more then just gasties theres this trick with the room with the painting ( red eyes) where if you keep the light on you can start catching stronger pokemon such as gengars (i still have to crack the code) also in the t.v beside the room with the painting there is a rotom inside which is a pretty good pokemon (ghost and electric).

[ultima2096]

Do they even HAVE guns in the Pokemon world? Ive always wondered why its not like, You beat a Team Whatever GRunt, why dont they just shoot u? And I mean SCARING away security

well think about it... your wondering around in new york and some hoodlum (lol, stupid word) pulls out a gun. you then reach for your belt. and pull a ball out and throw it at the floor infront of him. he laughs, but its soon taken away as he stars at an 8ft dragon charging its hyper beam.
he panics and lets of a shot, only to find a green bar pop up above its head and a small dent appear in it. :cool:

@Champhev, the trick is that they only appear 4 % of the time with a gba pokegame in your ds. The picture is mainly there so you have something to stop you going insane running around that little room. or in the case if that little girl is found out to be harriet potter, its a room to turn you insane (this is based on my harry potter spin off version of events!)

[Callydude™]

I agree with the Lab idea.lol

[Eos Aduro]

I talking to Gardenia last night, and it almost seemed like she was just pointing out the fact that the chateau was there. But I say its a coverup. And you have to thump the TV for rotom to come out, so maybe rotom isnt evil. iu never thought it was, it does smile at you.

[Shiny Umbreon]

A cute face doesn't mean anything, but why would it be evil? It isn't attacking you or anything. It's you who have to look for it.

[funkeboodha]

did u know you can breed Rotom??? so hes not legendary!

[PokeWarped]

did u know you can breed Rotom??? so hes not legendary!

we al now dat. stop beng a n00b lyke i am pretnding 2 b.
Manaphy's a legend for sure, and he can breed.
Rotom is a real legend.

[Eos Aduro]

Well, maybe Rotom is just a Legendary that happens to have a type, a lot of them dont!

[Shiny Umbreon]

Well, maybe Rotom is just a Legendary that happens to have a type, a lot of them dont!

I didn't get this.

And, no, it isn't a legendary. Legendary Pokémon are "Pokémon that can't be obtained more than once in a single Pokémon game without trading or cheating". Manaphy is a legend and can breed, true, but it can't produce other Manaphy.

[Eos Aduro]

Haha, oops, i meant that has a gender. Im not very good at getting thoughts out...

[Pokemaster414]

heatran and cresselia have genders but they are still legends

[Piplup Master]

But you don't know whats behind those doors the maids block now do you.

I have an AR and I used the walk anywhere cheat and theres nothing behind the maids you cant walk through its just to make it look bigger

[Eos Aduro]

Yes, Ive already heard that, unless behind the maids is smething INVISIBLE! And the walk through cheat makes you walk through it without finding it!

[Shiny Umbreon]

I have an AR and I used the walk anywhere cheat and theres nothing behind the maids you cant walk through its just to make it look bigger

We all know there's nothing there. We're just talking in an in-universe perspective.

[Eos Aduro]

actually, rotom doesnt have a gender, he can just breed. hes kind of weird. DOes anyone here know if plasma can multiply? Like, soon there will be an ARMY OF EVIL ROTOMS, or something.

[Minku.]

I went into the Old Chateau. The music was spooky, I wanted the Rotom and I heard of those ghosts. I went into 3 rooms (the main hall, the dining room and the room with all them doors) and left, I was so scared... Even though it's just a game.

Geez... I didn't know I was that gutless...

[Shiny Umbreon]

It sounds stupid, but, yeah, when talking about these stuff and going to the Chateau, when it's a rainy night, and you see the ghosts floating around, it gives you a strange feeling even if it's a Pokémon game.

[Eos Aduro]

It sounds stupid, but, yeah, when talking about these stuff and going to the Chateau, when it's a rainy night, and you see the ghosts floating around, it gives you a strange feeling even if it's a Pokémon game.

I know! sometimes it doesnt feel like it is a Pokemon Game. if you use a repel and no Pokemon attack, I seriously feel scared to death, like the ghosts are watching me.

[Shiny Umbreon]

You're right. The wild Gastly ruin everything, but without them, I get really scared sometimes...
It's just something psychologic we have when we talk about ghosts.

[Eos Aduro]

I mean, ghosts probably cant even HURT us, but its the sense of having someone who's dead lookig at you, but you cant see them. i sometimes feel like the butler and the girl vanish, and reappear invibly aound me.

[Piplup Master]

I never saw the girl but I have seen the butler this game freaks me out too scary

[Shiny Umbreon]

Just keep entering to the room and you'll see her eventually. When you get out of the room to find nobody, it's scary.

[Eos Aduro]

Just keep entering to the room and you'll see her eventually. When you get out of the room to find nobody, it's scary.

The first time I went in, the girl was there with the TM, and I thought she was just, like a regular little girl, so i went out to find her. When no one was there, I searched the WHOLE house and found the butler first time too, so i went to talk to him, and then was so freaked out I didnt go back in for like, a week. I never even got the TM

[Shiny Umbreon]

The first time I went in, the girl was there with the TM, and I thought she was just, like a regular little girl, so i went out to find her. When no one was there, I searched the WHOLE house and found the butler first time too, so i went to talk to him, and then was so freaked out I didnt go back in for like, a week. I never even got the TM

Funny story. Yeah, even Pokémon can be quite creepy sometimes.

[Lord Dialga]

I think those ghost are ghastly, remember that ghastly has the ability turn into illusions of some sort, also ghastly has a 90% of being made of gas, thats why its named GHAStly, in other words, Ghostly Gas!

[Shiny Umbreon]

Gaslty does NOT have the ability to turn into illusions. And I don't get why you mention it's made with gas (obvious).

[Shadowflame3458]

I did use the Walk through Walls thing on the maids but I'm not saying what I found \-/

[Eos Aduro]

I did use the Walk through Walls thing on the maids but I'm not saying what I found \-/

Yeah, NOTHING! We've already established that. And in the show, I vaguely remember something about illusions, but not really. I knwo Ash caught a Haunter.

[Shiny Umbreon]

Don't mix the anime, please, it's crap. In the game they are just normal ghost Pokémon (made of gas, though)

[diamondpearl876]

Don't mix the anime, please, it's crap. In the game they are just normal ghost Pokémon (made of gas, though)

Yeah, the anime doesn't work well with the games.. legendary pokemon arent able to breed, yet in the anime there was a baby Lugia. 'Nuff said.

[Shiny Umbreon]

OK. So theories are completely forgetting about ghosts and assuming they're illusions or whatever. So where did the spooky part go to? I think it's very clear that they are real ghosts, unless all of what we're discussing is just a fake haunted mansion.

[Eos Aduro]

OK. So theories are completely forgetting about ghosts and assuming they're illusions or whatever. So where did the spooky part go to? I think it's very clear that they are real ghosts, unless all of what we're discussing is just a fake haunted mansion.

Well, its almost TOO haunted to be true. The one statue, creepy books, no furniture. It seems almost too scary. And I just realised, if this was a really old house, whats with the big screen TV?

[Shiny Umbreon]

It's just a TV, left for Rotom to hide. And about furniture and what you said, remember Pokémon maps are not so detailed, so you can't really know much about the house.

[ultima2096]

is it me or it there no bathroom?

[Eos Aduro]

is it me or it there no bathroom?

Maybe theres a Haunted Outhouse? Like, you go in, and the toilet stares at you.

[Shiny Umbreon]

Since the moment you see your mom has no room and your room is the entire second floor, you can't think of noticing these kind of details. They're nonsense.

[The Songbird]

Perhaps the Old Gateau heals Pokemon, but is poisonous to humans! Extending from the poisoned food theory, maybe the chef poisoned the cake with an ingredient that would only harm people, and kept an antidote hidden for himself! That would explain the antidote near the kitchen, as well as the Old Gateau!

[ultima2096]

Since the moment you see your mom has no room and your room is the entire second floor, you can't think of noticing these kind of details. They're nonsense.

hehe i spose... since theres no bathrooms anywhere else.
we talk about the creepy chateau, but its even more creepy that no one sleeps in that game :paranoid:

[Eos Aduro]

I noticed that outside the chateau, you can see that it has Stained Glass Windows. Maybe it was like, a sanctuary for hurt Pokemon until The Plasma Incident!!!

[Shadowflame3458]

hehe i spose... since theres no bathrooms anywhere else.
we talk about the creepy chateau, but its even more creepy that no one sleeps in that game :paranoid:

They sleep when you save the game and turn it off. They die when you forget to save it and turn it off XP

anyway, my cousin Claims he found a thrid ghost. I don't belive him, I asked him to show me, and he went into the Old Chateu's Kitchen. We accually saw a little white move threw the wall (Seperating the Kitchen and the Dining room) and into the Dining Room. We followed it into the Room with eyes on the wall, and it stoped. My cousin walked up to it, and pushed A. The stupid little thing made a move, and ran into the TV in the other room. He had already caught Rotom, so we had ruled him out. He went and hit the TV again, and the white dot attacked. It acctually didn't go into a battle, but it threw him out of the Chateu. He went back in, But couldn't find that dot again. What do you think that little white dot was?!?

[Silver Fang]

They sleep when you save the game and turn it off. They die when you forget to save it and turn it off XP

anyway, my cousin Claims he found a thrid ghost. I don't belive him, I asked him to show me, and he went into the Old Chateu's Kitchen. We accually saw a little white move threw the wall (Seperating the Kitchen and the Dining room) and into the Dining Room. We followed it into the Room with eyes on the wall, and it stoped. My cousin walked up to it, and pushed A. The stupid little thing made a move, and ran into the TV in the other room. He had already caught Rotom, so we had ruled him out. He went and hit the TV again, and the white dot attacked. It acctually didn't go into a battle, but it threw him out of the Chateu. He went back in, But couldn't find that dot again. What do you think that little white dot was?!?

I bet it was a glitch in the games programing if not, I don't know maybe your game is haunted (LOL)

[ultima2096]

They sleep when you save the game and turn it off. They die when you forget to save it and turn it off XP [...]

GAHHHH!! could you imagine how scary the game would be if everyone died and turned into creepy ghosts :paranoid:

[Shiny Umbreon]

I bet it was a glitch in the games programing if not, I don't know maybe your game is haunted (LOL)

No glitch can do such a sequence, unless it was some thing left for Rotom's encounter, maybe activated by doing strange sequences (like Missingno.'s), ut it's kind of hard to believe. Still, it's possible because the game has been out for a short time so you may be the first. And the other possibility: Your game is haunted.

[Shadowflame3458]

I acctually had the same experience just a few minutes ago In my game.

[PokeFanatic12698]

maybe the game is starting to get all glitchy. my older brother told me that when a game is released for the first time, after a while it starts to get all glitchy, until the release another version of the game. still, i dont believe him. h and i cant wait to get to that place XD i love creepy and spooky things.

[Shiny Umbreon]

maybe the game is starting to get all glitchy. my older brother told me that when a game is released for the first time, after a while it starts to get all glitchy, until the release another version of the game. still, i dont believe him. h and i cant wait to get to that place XD i love creepy and spooky things.

Remember this doesn't sound as a glitch. Thid sounds like a real in-game sequence of events.

[Shadowflame3458]

Belive it or not, It DID happen. after I saw the little whit dot here's what I did:

I found it in the kitchen and chased it into the Room w/ Eyes on the wall. I went up to it and tried to open my Menu. It wouldn't open. I tried to push B, and nothing happened. Itried to get out of the room, but it was like getting stuck in the Mud, except you couldn't get out. There was a Text box that said:

"Get..........Out.....Of.....Our.....Resting.....Place...."

and once I finnally got free, I ran for my life! I was out of that chateu in about 10 secounds thanks to a Max repel + lv100 in my lead slot.

Belive it or not, this all DID happen. No, my game didn't freeze.

[PokeFanatic12698]

but if its a real in-game sequence, why did gamefreak put it there?

[Shiny Umbreon]

I didn't say this not believable, because I already told you this is a new game so most things haven't been discovered. I just said it's not a glitch.

About the dot, don't you think it would have been cool to actually search for something? I mean, it's not like you're in a real haunted house. In a game, you've nothing to lose, unless, again, your game is really haunted and it wanted you to leave the Old Chateau.

[Shadowflame3458]

I'm going back to that Chateu right now, and I'm gonna kill that stupid dot!

[PokeFanatic12698]

kk. lol yeah ima try that once i get to that place XD i just cant wait!

[Shiny Umbreon]

but if its a real in-game sequence, why did gamefreak put it there?

To continue with the horror subject.
But we'll still have to discover how does the event triggers. It may be something real, though, except that I think everybody says there's nothing more than Rotom in there. An update in Serebii that says "new ghost discovered" would really freak me out.

[Shadowflame3458]

TIME TO GO KILL SOME DOT.

lol. I'll tell you all how it works out. There's nothing to be afraid of, I'm sure it's just Nintendo playing a Prank on us.... Then again I could be wrong lol.

and I already know what happened. Iwent and got the last pokemon I need to see for the National Dex, and got the national Dex. I went to the Chateu to see the Ghostys, and it happened. I think you need the National Dex to make it happen.

[PokeFanatic12698]

To continue with the horror subject.
But we'll still have to discover how does the event triggers. It may be something real, though, except that I think everybody says there's nothing more than Rotom in there. An update in Serebii that says "new ghost discovered" would really freak me out.

yeah. lets wait til flames tell us. im on my fourth badge, so where is this place?

[Shiny Umbreon]

yeah. lets wait til flames tell us. im on my fourth badge, so where is this place?

Too bad, Rotom appears only after the elite four although I don't know this white dot. You can still go there for some fun, it's at the north of Eterna Forest (you need Cut).

[PokeFanatic12698]

Too bad, Rotom appears only after the elite four although I don't know this white dot. You can still go there for some fun, it's at the north of Eterna Forest (you need Cut).

dont worry. im not worried about rotom. north of eterna forest got it. im going to go there after i collect my fith badge.

[Shadowflame3458]

I;m chasing the dot into the room..

[PokeFanatic12698]

I;m chasing the dot into the room..

lol sweet. i cant believe he is still there.

[Shadowflame3458]

It went into the TV. I'm gonna thump it lol

[PokeFanatic12698]

lol ooo im just thrilled to meet that white dot.

[Shadowflame3458]

OH CRAP! I need some SERIOUS HELP! the 2 ghosts that are found in that Chateu have me cornered in the Rotom room! I'M DOOMED!

[Shiny Umbreon]

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lol ooo im just thrilled to meet that white dot.

^If it's actually real, that applies for me, too.

[PokeFanatic12698]

oh sweet dude!!!! your making me impacient!! XD i just cant wait til i get that white dot!!

[Shadowflame3458]

I don't know what it is, but the ghosts keep making noises. it comes up in a text box as "BUBZU.........." "BIBEX.........." "BLUKF.........."

[Shiny Umbreon]

^Zombie growls!

....or somethign like that.

[PokeFanatic12698]

lol. im going to fly back to floarama city since im stuck in this fog!!

[Shadowflame3458]

hang on... a Overworld sprite of something just appeared... I can't quite see what it is... but it's saying:

"GET..........OUT..........OF..........THE..........CHATEU..........NOW!"

[PokeFanatic12698]

lol i wonder what it is??

[Shadowflame3458]

It gets a little more clear every time it says something.... I still can't see what it is.

[PokeFanatic12698]

i had to restart my game because i got stuck in a battle. wich way was it again?

[Shadowflame3458]

Go to Enerta City. Go Left to the forest. Stay at the top of the forest. You'll see 3 cutable trees, cut 1. go up threw the opening. You'll find it.

It's almost clear... I can't see it yet... but it appears it be Blue...and Pink...and Yellow...

[PokeFanatic12698]

Go to Enerta City. Go Left to the forest. Stay at the top of the forest. You'll see 3 cutable trees, cut 1. go up threw the opening. You'll find it.

It's almost clear... I can't see it yet... but it appears it be Blue...and Pink...and Yellow...

ok. oh and is a drifloon rare cuz i just caught it standing in front of the wind avlley works.

[PokeFanatic12698]

sorry for the double post but what do i do now im inside it...

[Shadowflame3458]

OMG. YOU'LL NEVER GUESS WHAT IT IS!!!

[PokeFanatic12698]

OMG. YOU'LL NEVER GUESS WHAT IT IS!!!

what is it? a gastly, pikachu, hunter gengar, what is it?

[41victory]

Ill believe it when i see a pic of it.

[Shadowflame3458]

It's UXIE MESPRIT AND AZELF! WHY ARE THEY IN THE OLD CHATEU?!?

41victory: whether or not you belive it, it's happening. No I didn't NOT HACK. I DON'T OWN A CHEATING DEVICE ANYMORE.

[PokeFanatic12698]

huh? hel please tell me where do i have to go once im inside ?! lol

[Shadowflame3458]

Go right into the first door you see (Don't go up the stairs) and you'll find the first ghosty!

[PokeFanatic12698]

Go right into the first door you see (Don't go up the stairs) and you'll find the first ghosty!

theres a door in the middle, a door on the right if you go up the stairs and a dorr on the left again if you go up the sairs and another one in the top floor in the middle. wich should i take? oh and their doing what entei,raikou and suicune did in crystal version. in the burned tower.
edit- i explored the whole house and still havent found anything. except a plate and an oldgauteu.

[Shadowflame3458]

As soon as you enter the Chateu, go straight forward to encounter the 1st ghost. the secound ghost:

you need to go up the stairs and go into the MIDDLE door, and go 1 door to the right and go in. You'll enconter the secound ghost. Hope I helped!

BTW, Uxie Mesprit and Azelf stopped the ghosts and I got away. I'm NEVER going to that Chatue AGAIN!

[JL3]

I think that Mr. Backlot was the old owner of that mansion. And I heard that when you get the national pokedex and go to the old mansion between 8 PM and 4 Am and talk to the tv in the second floor then a secret pokemon appears, but hay Ime not sure you would just have to go there and find out for youre self.
R T M

Yeah its true,my ds has the timezones mixed so its night during day and viseversa. The pokemon was a lv15 rotom.Its pretty easy to capture it only took me one ultraball.

[PokeFanatic12698]

ok and where is the third one? ima pause my game until then.

[Shadowflame3458]

The thrid one you need to get the National Dex before you can see it. I* just confirmed that with my Pearl Version. (My pearl version is beaten, I just haven't gotton the National Dex yet.)

[PokeFanatic12698]

ah poopy. i wanted to see that darn white dot. atleast i got to see those ghosts! XD

[41victory]

i've got the national dex. so what do you do? I've seen the first two ghosts...

[Shadowflame3458]

Go into the old Chateus Middle room (The Dining room) Then go left and you should seee it. If you don't, then there is something seriously wrong with me and My cousins games.

[PokeFanatic12698]

ive you been reading the entire thread, maybe you'd know.
edit- nevermind. lol maybe your games are haunted dude.

[Shadowflame3458]

I dunno what's going on...... Team Galactic is standing in front of the entrance to Enertia Forest!

[FireApe2135]

Your game is either completely glitched or It is a stupid end of game sidequest

[Shadowflame3458]

It's not stupid, it's hilarious acctually. It's kinda fun to watch the dot move around.

[41victory]

Can you get a pic of it shadowflame??

[Shadowflame3458]

I can't. I'm not going back into that Chateu ever again!

I'll see if my cousin will get one and send it to me.

[PokeFanatic12698]

its hilarious and creepy. oooo i just cant wait to get that national pokedex..!!

[Shadowflame3458]

then play until you do! PLAY FOR YOUR LIFE!

[PokeFanatic12698]

lol damn the fifth gym leader is tough. and i dont have any psy pokemon to kick her ass. hey flames, can you lend me a strong pokemon then ill give it back once i beat her? lol joking

[Shadowflame3458]

I could if I wanted to. I have a Fine selection of Psychic and Dark type pokemon If you really want to borrow one.