Rumors: Pokemon cheaters banned from online play

[Saud-Blaziken]

So you think it's cute, trying to cheat on being a pokey-man collecta', huh? I hear you're getting your hits using these Action Replay codes with
• National-Dex
• Catching All 493 Pokemon
• All Shiny
Well, I got news for you, buddy. Word on the street is that Nintendo is banning players who are caught using the aforementioned codes from online play. No trades, no barters, just cold isolation with yourself. My Pokeymans, let me show you them ... I can't? Oh, nuts!

[.ViPeR.$]

uhh would u mind posting a link from where u got this info plz, some factual basis would be nice

[Magnius]

Everyone knows true Pokemon masters don't use GameShark. I haven't actually played Diamond or Pearl yet, but... in the case of any previous version I think the only justification for using GameShark would be if you have no friends who play Pokemon and need to get a Pokemon that's not in your version.

[wmoor0826]

Search it up on google, I've heard that alot on there, too. Also, I Think I saw something on serebii.net or pokemonpalace or something.

[Shift]

Good thing I use my AR for other games and not Diamond.

[Roihu]

I think it hasn't started yet or something I heard this like a week ago.
But I still see a lot of hakersrs and a couple of cherish ball users.

[Shift]

What's the point in Cherish Balls? Oh, and if we have hacked pokemon in our PC, do we get banned(If It's True)?

[.ViPeR.$]

What's the point in Cherish Balls? Oh, and if we have hacked pokemon in our PC, do we get banned(If It's True)?

yah id like to know the significants in cherish balls cuz a hacker gave me a shiny charizard in one a couple days ago, i traded it away already but what does it mean?

[Lubricus]

yah id like to know the significants in cherish balls cuz a hacker gave me a shiny charizard in one a couple days ago, i traded it away already but what does it mean?
It means that its hacked because you get cherish balls with event pokemon and since there isn't any events yet you shouldn't have one

[Roihu]

The only pokemon that should be in cherish balls are darkrai tropious....and I think that's it?
Anyways does Nintendo still ban Darkrai from the GTS?
Cause I have gotten the data from my friend (He gave me all 2 legends) and I tried to see it on Wi-Fi but no luck.

[Ichida]

Good for them. They deserve it. Maybe getting a full collection will mean something now.

[Lubricus]

The only pokemon that should be in cherish balls are darkrai tropious....and I think that's it?
Anyways does Nintendo still ban Darkrai from the GTS?
Cause I have gotten the data from my friend (He gave me all 2 legends) and I tried to see it on Wi-Fi but no luck.
Its ban until the event goes everwhere in Japan then its not ban in THat Region.

[The Real AAA]

Good I hate battling stat hackers

[Ichaste Pekoni]

Good for them. They deserve it. Maybe getting a full collection will mean something now.

You mean including the Arceus that was hacked?

I can say that nothing like this has gone into effect yet...unless I misunderstand that second bullet.

[ChrisG14]

Cool, now I won't have to deal stupid people that hack everything and try to fight me with Shiny Magikarp's that know Explosion or Volt Tackle.True story about that Magikarp, BTW.

[Shift]

And someone still hasn't answered my question of if we have hacked pokemon in our PC's we get banned.

[linkinpark187]

what? no way. lmao! thats just too funny. personally, i think its stupid to stat hack, or anything else for that nature. natural is the way to go! :D

EDIT: and i'm not sure if NOA is going to be able to tell if you have hacked PKMN in your PC or not. i wouldn't imagine they would, but then again, why would you want them (unless, like mentioned earlier, you don't have friends who you can't trade with).

[Nightofshadow]

I highly doubt they would go through that extreme... Especially since hacked pokemon are also traded on GTS. They cannot sort out stuff like that at all enough to where it would actually BE fair. Ive gotten 3 pokemon on GTS that were hacked into the game(why people are trading hacked pokemon on gts is beyond me) So for them to sort them out that way is almost impossible in being fair.

[Ichida]

And someone still hasn't answered my question of if we have hacked pokemon in our PC's we get banned.

Why don't you just avoid hacked Pokemon and never have to find out? :P

[Nightofshadow]

Why don't you just avoid hacked Pokemon and never have to find out? :P

Not everyone wants to sit down and EV train pokemon all the time, Especially getting pokemon that they know they arent going to go to events for and to get in the first place. Not everyone has time for that either. So people are of course gonna wanna take shortcuts to get those things done in a shorter ammount of time. That honestly isnt a crime. It just means people are lazy as hell. I am personally one of those particular lazy people. I dont feel like EV training every single pokemon that i come across(Even though i do anyway) and i KNOW for a fact i hate breeding with a passion.

[linkinpark187]

Nightofshadow, i know what you mean. sometimes it just absolutely sucks trying to EV train. i guess that's why Nintendo made items like Protein or Carbos, huh? lol lately, if i do use any cheat device, its to make a certain Pokémon evolve and fill my dex. not everyone has the patience to sit down and train a Pokémon (though i did just the other day, lol).

[Ichida]

Well, I had the patience to breed and EV train, and when tournament season swings around, I'll be stomping my way to the top with godly, LEGAL Pokemon, and you won't be let in past the gate. Enjoy. <3

[wmoor0826]

But the shiny one can only be tracked if its obvious, like if most of the shinies with your OT are female, your busted.

[Cema]

I have no hacked pokemon at all, but what if I were to receive one from GTS, as has happend before. Would I be in trouble for having it? What of cloning?

[linkinpark187]

hard to say not knowing. and i never said anything about having hacked Pokémon, Ichida. i was merely talking about using items such as Rare Candies and Proteins. and i never said i used them myself, anyway. IF, and i mean IF, i use Rare Candies, its because i want to fill my dex. nothing more. and just ask ZaChAttAck101, because i trained two of his Pokémon just this past week for him. i guarantee he'll vouch for me.

[Nightofshadow]

Well, I had the patience to breed and EV train, and when tournament season swings around, I'll be stomping my way to the top with godly, LEGAL Pokemon, and you won't be let in past the gate. Enjoy. <3

Thats a pretty arrogant remark for someone you have never played before. Sometimes people should leave their egos at the door.

To everyone else, Trading pokemon on GTS should be banned, I agree but to ban people for having hacked pokemon(or even have the data on the cart to start with because OF a GTS trade) is unfair completely

[Samson]

OK this rumor is incorrect. i have hacked pokemon i battle with on wifi and i haven't had a problem. they aren't hacked as in (as someone earlier mentioned) a Magikarp with dumb moves and stats, but i caught them all with Action Replay and raised them on my own.

[Ken-san]

I'm probably going to use a cheat device to get Event Pokemon cause I'm not going to any Events...

[linkinpark187]

Thats a pretty arrogant remark for someone you have never played before. Sometimes people should leave their egos at the door.

To everyone else, Trading pokemon on GTS should be banned, I agree but to ban people for having hacked pokemon(or even have the data on the cart to start with because OF a GTS trade) is unfair completely

first off, i completely agree. that was past arrogance. instead of automatically assuming that we all cheat, keep your mouth shut and read what i wrote to begin with, Ichida.

and as for you, Nightofshadow, i agree. its kind of rediculous to completely ban someone from using WiFi for just having hacked Pokémon. instead of that, Nintendo should perhaps put some kind of filter up that will disallow hacked Pokémon.

[Nightofshadow]

OK this rumor is incorrect. i have hacked pokemon i battle with on wifi and i haven't had a problem. they aren't hacked as in (as someone earlier mentioned) a Magikarp with dumb moves and stats, but i caught them all with Action Replay and raised them on my own.
Yep.... I know people who have done this too so i know the rumor 99% false. Namely myself


I'm probably going to use a cheat device to get Event Pokemon cause I'm not going to any Events...

LOL!!!! I am with you all the way.
first off, i completely agree. that was past arrogance. instead of automatically assuming that we all cheat, keep your mouth shut and read what i wrote to begin with, Ichida.

and as for you, Nightofshadow, i agree. its kind of rediculous to completely ban someone from using WiFi for just having hacked Pokémon. instead of that, Nintendo should perhaps put some kind of filter up that will disallow hacked Pokémon.

Yeah dude, I hate people like that seriously. Would be even funnier if he lost........ but im not good to begin with.

An edit: You cant really filter something like that fairly I wouldnt think considering that there are ALOT of hacked pokemon out there and even pokemon with max stats would be an issue as a whole. They would be better off leaving it alone due to the fact that they cant really fix it to begin with. Nintendo should also probably also HOST Tournaments where people can get these pokemon because as of right now i have YET to hear of them actually making an event for event pokemon in the USA thus far

[linkinpark187]

yeah, i know what you mean, Night. at one point in time i heard of Nintendo doing the Events all on WiFi instead of having you travel all the way to the Event site, but where they went with that is beyond me. lol

[Nightofshadow]

If they did it on wifi, It would be ALOT easier for alot of people.... But im sure there would be a fee

[Faceless*]

If they did it on wifi, It would be ALOT easier for alot of people.... But im sure there would be a fee

a fee? lol, so your saying they charge you for hacking pokemon?



(PS, nice sig nightofshadows :P)

[Nightofshadow]

a fee? lol, so your saying they charge you for hacking pokemon?



(PS, nice sig nightofshadows :P)

No im talking about a fee for battling on wifi for the event pokemon

And thanks

[linkinpark187]

i hope they wouldn't charge. they'd be stupid to do that, especially since you can do it from the comfort of your own home. or maybe the fee should be a Bidoof or something. lol

[Nightofshadow]

Well, I know what you mean but the point still remains that they have YET to release any kind of information on event pokemon so why shouldnt people hack them in especially when those people probably arent going to go to them anyway. Besides Even if they do stop people from going on wifi, I would think that someone would find away around it ANYWAY.

[Legacy]

I would love it if anybody who had hacked their game carts received a ban from online battling and trading. I think it's only fair that someone should be prohibited from using something if they aren't going to play fair.

[Ichida]

Woot! Legal Pokemon for all! Let the lazy shameless hackers be judged!

[Pachy]

I would love it if anybody who had hacked their game carts received a ban from online battling and trading. I think it's only fair that someone should be prohibited from using something if they aren't going to play fair.
If they were using pokemon with maxed out stats or illegal movesets then yes I agree those ppl should be banned...But those who only pass around non legit Pokemon shouldnt be punished because they are doing other players a service(Helping other players fill their pokedex legitimately without having to spend a single cent on cheat devices or travelling to events to get the rarest ones...)...I can see wanting a legit legendary if you are giving up your best shiny...quite honestly I think that people should use common sense and only trade their super valuable legit shiny legendaries to people that they can trust to not give a worthless hacked pokemon back in return...And cloning isnt hacking nor is it unfair....

[Nightofshadow]

LOL @ the word fair. Who is one to tell what is fair and what isnt. I dont think its fair for someone who doesnt have the time to train pokemon to not be able to compete with those who do. I personally have a Fiance, am a programmer (video game programmer, go figure) and alot of other personal life things. I dont have time to sit day after day to train pokemon, So i dont think thats its fair that i have to sit there and do it while people who DO have the time to reaps the benifits of it. (NOT saying they dont deserve it) I am saying this provides an out for those who cannot afford the ammount of time dedicated to it. Sorry you guys dont like that.

As of right now, I have been EV training my pokemon But i dont have the time to dedicate to it anymore, So I will indeed be joining the action replay ranks myself.

[Ichida]

Who's to say you can't spread your training schedule over a longer period of time? Don't you think it's worth it? Sure, for a month or two you'll be unable to battle at full strength, but the confidence payoff is immensely worth it. Trust me, I know. :D

[Nightofshadow]

Life as a video game programmer is demanding and time is very limited when it comes to free time. Yes its manageable but im not going to wait 2/3 months especially when I am not good enough to start with <_<;;

[41victory]

I think maxing out stats with ar is just wrong i dont mind hacked lengends that u cant get unless with an event. i mean who whould fly to a different state just for a pokemon? I know some people will but.. not me

[Nightofshadow]

I think maxing out stats with ar is just wrong i dont mind hacked lengends that u cant get unless with an event. i mean who whould fly to a different state just for a pokemon? I know some people will but.. not me

This i agree with completely If i was going to hack anything... it def wouldnt be stats. It would be to get pokemon that i know i dont wanna trade for lol/wont get anyother way outside of events

[41victory]

What the heck man no need for that Bullcrap

[Nightofshadow]

Nothing has been confirmed and i DOUBT with a serious passion that this will actually follow through because nintendo(IMO) would lose alot of business doing so

[dugtrio's diglet]

Nothing has been confirmed and i DOUBT with a serious passion that this will actually follow through because nintendo(IMO) would lose alot of business doing so

lol... i was just kiddin about previous post... but i think they would loose much of their bussiness... but i could care less if they're banned or not... i can still beat many cheaters

[Midnight Beat]

So I used an Action Replay for the event pokemon and they are for me only, I wouldn't claim them a legit, trade them to any one, or use them in a battle. So would this give nintendo grounds to ban me? And P.S. I'm almost positive they won't do this but you know just in case.

[PARAN01A]

so, whats the punishment were looking at here for such deeds? ip ban?XD

[Ichida]

The Wi-Fi should at least be able to identify and refuse hacked Pokemon to be used in battle, like how Pokemon Battle Revolution labels them as "Bad Eggs." At least the Wii team is smart and morally well-aligned.

[nilved]

Well, I had the patience to breed and EV train, and when tournament season swings around, I'll be stomping my way to the top with godly, LEGAL Pokemon, and you won't be let in past the gate. Enjoy. <3
There's no way to get an Arceus yet; and if you have a complete collection like you say, it means you're hacking or trading for hacked Pokemon, right?

[Ho-oh arabia]

So far, its not true. I traded my Lv 3 Arceus today and NOTHING HAPPEND. the trade went thru. And I still fight people on the Wifi connection. I think this rumor is bull. Even though I us ARDS to catch my pokemon, doesn't mean I use the stat hackn codes. There is nothing wrong with a passion to modify gameplay. Some people like it, others don't. Don't put other people down for it.

[linkinpark187]

exactly, Ichida! how in the hell do you have a complete Pokédex if you didn't cheat? somewhere along the line you had to cheat, too. only those who are hard on people who cheat cheat themselves. so know your role and shut your mouth, you f!@$ing arrogant prick!

as for the topic at hand... honestly, i really don't think Nintendo is going to be stupid enough to ban hacked Pokémon. though a good idea, its bad for those, like myself, who has KIDS, a job (much like Night), and many other things going on, who need to use an AR or CB in order to train. not everyone has idle time like you, Ichida. you call us lazy, but at least we have a life and have jobs and do things other than play Pokémon 24/7, unlike you who's 18 and more than likely will live with his mommy his whole life with a low paying Part-time job.

[fearow23]

Like most people said, using a hacking device for you own self is fine, you're cheating the system. But trading hacked pokemon over the GTS or to people is wrong because you are cheating others.

[Nightofshadow]

LMAO!!!!!!! Linkinpark187 you are my best friend! That was a huge package of ownage delivered at ichida's front door. GTFO! Your post will now be sigged!

[linkinpark187]

exactly. like i myself said earlier, there sould be some kind of filter that will disallow hacked Pokémon. using Rare Candies or Proteins is one thing. but to max out your Pokémon's stats or teach it attacks its not even supposed to know is just freaking ridiculous. but like myself and Night, most of us don't have the time to devote out lives to playing Pokémon. and thank you, thank you, Night. lol i might have to do that too, myself. lol but people here can't say its not true. lol

[RSL]

I don't do the later either, I only use AR to get max Rare Candies and Proteins, etc. Plus, I don't EV train either, I see that as a form of cheating, too. (Nintendo has never oficially sponsered any type of event in this manner.)

[linkinpark187]

definitely. i find using a "manipulitory device" (basically all it does) ok for things such as version exclusive Pokémon, very rare Pokémon, or if you don't have the time to sit down and train your Pokémon. but to hack moves and stats is crossing the line completely. i have a CodeBreaker, though, so i wouldn't know the luxuries of catching any Pokémon other than what's on the game (or my Fire Red).

[Faceless*]

Dude only if your pokemons stats dont go over 512 evs limit, and its stats limit, and it knows attacks its ok to kno, then its alright...


BTW linkinpark, you broke the rules by censoring curse words'

EDIT: No wait, 2 rules

[linkinpark187]

yes, but at least i censored, correct? better to censor than leave it nude in the breeze. lol

[ChrisG14]

I don't do the later either, I only use AR to get max Rare Candies and Proteins, etc. Plus, I don't EV train either, I see that as a form of cheating, too. (Nintendo has never oficially sponsered any type of event in this manner.)

Um, many people EV train. It isn't cheating, it's working hard to make your Pokemon the best they can be. Just because you think it's tedious, doesn't mean that the rest of us do.

Also, the only Pokes I consider cheats are hacked event Pokemon that you use in battle. I don't care if you do it to complete the Pokedex, but don't try battling me with it.

[Pixel]

Good! Alas! Finally! Stopped hacking! yupies!

[Ichida]

XD, wow, you're all so spiteful. I hope you enjoyed that feeling. When I called for no hacking, I meant for using hacked Pokemon in battle. If you're going to hack an event legendary for collection, I could care less. And yes, I did use an Action Replay to get Darkrai, Shaymin, and Arceus, but I didn't encounter-hack fake ones. That method I am against. I ARd the event items, so I could go to the secret locations and get the REAL Darkrai, Shaymin, and Arceus. So they're the real Pokemon, only false items used to reach them. I'm not stupid, I will exploit any loophole I can find. My Pokemon battle team is still legitimate. :P

...EV Training, cheating? What kind of impatient, bitter prude do you have to be to think that? A part of ANY good game is hidden strategies that those with the smarts and the resources can exploit to their advantage! EV Training is perfectly legitimate, and it's the easiest way to separate the actual competitive players from the wannabes. If you're not willing to EV train a team, then you simply don't want to win enough. Nobody without EV Training has beaten me, and I dare any of you to try and prove me wrong.

[linkinpark187]

listen, you little pig headed, near sited, arrogant little momma's boy. NOT EVERYBODY HAS THE TIME TO EV TRAIN, THAT IS WHAT RARE CANDIES AND PROTEINS, IRON'S, ETC... ARE FOR!!! you may have the time to sit at home, on your fat arse to EV train your Pokémon, but for those who don't, there's the AR/CB. and you're still cheating. you still have to use an Action Replay to get the event items, so you're still cheating! i don't care what you think, you still have to cheat to get the event items to get them. how is that any different? its not! your site is so clouded its not funny, and you think you're better than everyone else! that just proves my point!

[Ichida]

Temper, temper! Calm down, young one. You'll find yourself an early grave with that kind of attitude. :P

I never said I don't use EV vitamins, that's actually a wise shortcut. Don't use Rare Candies though, they don't take any EVs into account, including any gained by vitamins. I always fill up the two stats with vitamins, then train the last 152 points manually. Who ever said I didn't? And I don't play just at home. The point of a portable system like the DS is that it can be played anywhere. On the bus, at school, even sitting in a movie theater waiting for those dreadful trailers to finish, I'm always playing.

"My site is so clouded?" *checks his web pages* Er, nope. They're still visible.

[linkinpark187]

very sorry... just a lot going on here... guess thats what happens when your neibhors blame you for smoking pot, huh? and, unlike you now, i'm sure, i don't live at home. i live on my own with my gf and 2 kids, so life gets to you sometimes. and young one? on Saturday, i'm going to be old enough to drink alcohol. watch who you're calling young one, little Padawan. lol

[Legacy]

listen, you little pig headed, near sited, arrogant little momma's boy. NOT EVERYBODY HAS THE TIME TO EV TRAIN, THAT IS WHAT RARE CANDIES AND PROTEINS, IRON'S, ETC... ARE FOR!!! you may have the time to sit at home, on your fat arse to EV train your Pokémon, but for those who don't, there's the AR/CB. and you're still cheating. you still have to use an Action Replay to get the event items, so you're still cheating! i don't care what you think, you still have to cheat to get the event items to get them. how is that any different? its not! your site is so clouded its not funny, and you think you're better than everyone else! that just proves my point!
If you don't have the time to train Pokémon to a competitive standard then don't play online at all. Simple as. If you can't be bothered to put in the extra effort to EV train Pokémon and resort to hacking Pokémon then you don't deserve to battle against people who have put the time and effort into training their team. It's just unfair.

And on a similar note, it takes me between 1-2 hours to EV train a Pokémon with the Macho Brace and Pokérus. And you only really need 6 Pokémon to be EV trained. You could EV train a full team in one dull weekend.

And one last thing, it's the saddest thing in the world when people display their own quotes in their sigs. It's even worse when those quotes were aimed at attacking someone for their views. It's pathetic.

[Ichida]

Gomen, the aggressive ones are usually the bratty 13-year olds. I've been "old enough" for almost a year, and the way you say that like it's a good thing is hilarious. I have better ways to spend my time than getting drunk... like playing games for one. XD. Why don't you take that time you allotted for drinking, train up an actual team, then take me on? I'm sure you'll feel much better. :P

[Nightofshadow]

looks like everyone at somepoint has hacked something lol. So i dont see the point of all this complaining <_<

[MisterCheif]

I may use AR at some point, but I have both Diamond and Pearl. I use Diamond as my online, non-hacked game, and I do not connect to wi-fi at all on pearl, unless it is to participate in a wi-fi event if it does occur. Diamond is where I have already beaten the game befor I even HAD an Action Replay DS, and I don't want to get banned because an idiot traded me a hacked pokemon of WFC.

[Erik Destler]

listen, you little pig headed, near sited, arrogant little momma's boy. NOT EVERYBODY HAS THE TIME TO EV TRAIN, THAT IS WHAT RARE CANDIES AND PROTEINS, IRON'S, ETC... ARE FOR!!! you may have the time to sit at home, on your fat arse to EV train your Pokémon, but for those who don't, there's the AR/CB. and you're still cheating. you still have to use an Action Replay to get the event items, so you're still cheating! i don't care what you think, you still have to cheat to get the event items to get them. how is that any different? its not! your site is so clouded its not funny, and you think you're better than everyone else! that just proves my point!

Excuse you?

I have a kid of myself, I'm not even 16 yet, and I have time to play pokemon, and EV train.

And I still don't use AR.

I also do other stuff online, and I can still do all the other stuff like being a great dad to my Stephen.

Plus, I have to go to work at McDonalds in a little while, so whatever.

It's not that good of a job, but whatever brings in the money... :\

[Ichida]

I don't want to get banned because an idiot traded me a hacked pokemon of WFC.If you're worried about any non-legendary Pokemon in your collection being hacked, breed your own, then delete the hacked one. Simple as that.

[Nightofshadow]

And one last thing, it's the saddest thing in the world when people display their own quotes in their sigs. It's even worse when those quotes were aimed at attacking someone for their views. It's pathetic.

I think its pathetic for someone to put their win record in there sigs. But its just my opinion Just as your post now

[Ichida]

I think its pathetic for someone to put their win record in there sigs.

What's wrong with letting challengers know what they're up against? :)

[Nightofshadow]

Nothing is wrong with it, I have no problem with that. I just think it's silly to put up numbers especially when numbers dont mean anything.

[Pink]

Okay, everyone. This thread is about people being banned from WFC or something, not about kids, being a dad, battling, or whatever it is you're yapping about. Stay on topic please.

[Bishopk]

Ummm, ouch. I hate to interrupt your bashfest, but I have some thoughts.
1: This isn't a thread (or at least wasn't) to debate about cheating.
2: Ichida, although I side with you, get over it. People cheat.
3: Linkinpark187, brinigng your personal, at-home life into this isn't going to help your case. You don't have to cheat to get strong pokes. It does take time and effort, something you claim you don't have. As Ichida said, it is a very good idea to use vitamins on your pokémon, even if you aren't EV training. You may be in a situation where you don't have time to play for more than, say, 20 minutes a day. Those 20 minutes that you spent cheating could be spent training (and probably is, you claimed in your first post about not stat hacking).
4: Nightofshadow, i don't see the problem of putting a record in a signature, especially if it's legitimate. He's part of the PC League, for goodness sake!
5: Legacy, I don't see the problem of quoting yourself in your signature, especially if it's about something you feel strongly for. It advertises this thread, anyways.

I wrote the first 3 about five posts ago, so...

[Erik Destler]

To be on topic, I think cheaters can do whatever they want.
But when they brag about having all 493, it's not right, imo.

If you're going to brag about something, at least do it honestly. :(

However, what you do in your privacy is of to no concern to me.
As long as you don't try to scam people on GTS.

Well, I've got to go.

[Legacy]

Nothing is wrong with it, I have no problem with that. I just think it's silly to put up numbers especially when numbers dont mean anything.
I have my record in my signature so that I can keep track of how well, or poorly, I'm doing against the other members of this site. When I get to a certain number I'll start to challenge the more "elite" members so that I've gotten enough experience to not get my ass completely handed to me. And the record also gives other members something to beat, I've had a few PMs from people wanting to give me my first defeat on this board. So my record isn't "pathetic", it serves a purpose to myself and for others too.

And if there's nothing wrong with it and you have no problem with it, how is it pathetic?

[Nightofshadow]

on topic, I dont care either way, If people cheat or not. It is a game. The game isnt going to ruin your life, the game isnt going to kill your family, and the game isnt going to eat your food. Its something to do because it is a hobby. I understand taking hobbies seriously because they are indeed important to people(i myself program games as a prefession and a hobby so i know) Who cares what people do with their games. They spent the money on it. They took the time to get the product to be able to do what they want with it. Plain and simple. So this debate is pretty silly IMO. Punish people for spending their own money? What a retarded concept. When I sell my game, I dont care what people do after they buy it, Its theirs. I got money for it and thus it no longer matters to me and to the majority of game developers.

Hacking the online service itself is a whole other issue however. THAT i could see people being banned for hands down...Banning people because they choose to do what they want? Completely silly.

[linkinpark187]

Bishopk, let me just say, butt out. i wasn't bringing my personal life into it. what i said TO ICHIDA was something else. i was letting ICHIDA know why i was blowing up so he wouldn't get angry and blow up at me. its not your fight, butt out.

now...

Nintendo banning hackers is a good idea, but at the same time a bad idea. again, as i've said before, Nintendo should make a filter, so should the filter find anything abnormal, it will stop the trainer from using that Pokémon and force them to go to their PC and pull out a different, non-hacked Pokémon. it should also filter out Legendaries from battles so it makes it a fair fight.

[Nightofshadow]

Even if nintendo WANTED to filter that stuff out. They could be spending times doing other things. Hacked pokemon are all over the place. You can hack a perfect IV pokemon in the wild if you wanted to with the correct nature to get around such a filter. There are ALWAYS loop holes around such things and it isnt going to stop people from hacking anyway.

[Bishopk]

Now that that argument is over (Sorry btw for butting in), I'll be nicer.
A filter is an excellent idea, and doesn't seem that hard to implement. As in, you upload your explosion/volt tackle magikarp and Hand of Nintendo tells itself, "Impossible attacks, hacked pokemon." They kick.
The use of legendaries in battles, however, i disagree. I think that they shoud have implemented all of the local wireless battle options in the Wifi battles. As in, No Restrictions, Standard Cup, Fancy Cup, Little Cup, Light Cup, Double Cup. But, throw in another one where legendaries aren't allowed.

EDIT: I hadn't thought of hacking IVs, but there must be some other way to tell... If not, then it isn't impossible, and those would be allowed. In a perfect world, everyone would be honest and there wouldn't be any problem.

[linkinpark187]

Bishopk, tis ok, tis ok. but that would make sense, though. having different cups much like Pokémon Stadium. even go as far as doing the level restriction and combined level and everything...could be interesting... lol

[pokemonmaster_41]

The GTS was a good and bad idea. It's good that we can trade around the world. However, because it's in the game, it's harder to filter out hacks. That's why I think that Nintendo should soley rely on friend code exchange systems (like here at PC). They should make the GTS into a computer app that pairs your friend code with the Pokemon you want to trade (along with the level, picture and a red star to indicate if it's a Shiny). Maybe that will help them filter out hacks better...

(I also think that half of the Pokerus cases online are from hackers.)

[clonesld]

i dont think nintendo would do that....they would lose lots of sales and many people would be ANGRY....VERY ANGRY

[Eureka1]

Well, I had the patience to breed and EV train, and when tournament season swings around, I'll be stomping my way to the top with godly, LEGAL Pokemon, and you won't be let in past the gate. Enjoy. <3

lol.. me too..

i have like 10 boxes of level 1 pokemon now :(

[Monty Kensicle]

I received a Pokemon from my sister's friend. *cheater* And when I went to trade it on the GTS, it wouldn't let me. It said, "This Pokemon can not be traded." or something to that effect.

Upon further inspection of the said Pokemon, I discovered that the Pokemon he gave me had perfect IVs, and EVs.

So it seems like Nintendo has implemented some sort of hacked Pokemon filter on the Global Trading System.


With all due respect,

~Monty Kensicle

[Diggeh]

I received a Pokemon from my sister's friend. *cheater* And when I went to trade it on the GTS, it wouldn't let me. It said, "This Pokemon can not be traded." or something to that effect.

So it seems like Nintendo has implemented some sort of hacked Pokemon filter on the Global Trading System.

Actually, there's a specific ribbon that prevents the trading of that Pokemon on the GTS. I'm not sure which, though.

Also, I believe that cheating to get every single Pokemon perfectly packaged in a nice IV bun with a side of perfect EVs defeats the purpose of Pokemon.

Although I do own an AR, I only use it for the amusement of my friends and I with my own little Wonder Guard Bidoof.

Hackdoof vanished instantly!

[firegirl]

I dought it is true... let them cheat.. they aviously baught the action replay for a reason.. just mark the hacked pokemon and put an option in the game that asks if you want to battle hacked pokemon and it you say no.. then you wont battle.. and in trade just check for the mark.. that way ppl can still hack and non-hackers can avoide hackers.. simple

[Bishopk]

I dought it is true... let them cheat.. they aviously baught the action replay for a reason.. just mark the hacked pokemon and put an option in the game that asks if you want to battle hacked pokemon and it you say no.. then you wont battle.. and in trade just check for the mark.. that way ppl can still hack and non-hackers can avoide hackers.. simple

In a perfect world, sure. But the problem is marking those hacked pokémon. Sure, you can buy an AR and make sure everyone knows you use hacked, and not play against non-hackers, but there are always going to be people like the guys in the PC League who tried to use hacking to cheat their way to the top.
:(

[furix]

I heard of this rumor before, it seems false. However, it'd be nice if it was true.

[Nightofshadow]

I have but recently got myself an action replay. I honestly dont care about what people think about me using it the way that i use it. I wont hack the stats on my pokemon because I find that immoral. But i am slowly but surely SICK and tired of having to trade with people for pokemon I will never find because i dont have the previous games. So i personally will use an action replay to get the pokemon that I want. For whatever screening needs to do be done for my teams they can screen all they want and not a single stat on my pokemon will be hacked. I dont mind ev training as much though that gets tedious on its own.

[furix]

omg CHEATER!!! UR NOT MY FRIEND ANYMORE!!! D:

[Nightofshadow]

omg CHEATER!!! UR NOT MY FRIEND ANYMORE!!! D:

Oh please, I talked about getting on before in IRC :V. *waits for a furx request*

[furix]

Lol, I am just kidding. :P

But, nah I don't like taking stuff from AR, it makes me feel guilty. I've always been a legit player on all games I play, even 1 player games. I never cheated even on Disgaea. :x

[roxas123]

My best friend has an Action replay and he barley ever uses it. He only used it to get key items for the event pokemon. Sure he's given me afew pokemon, but thats only because Pearl is the only pokemon game I own. But we both agree that hacking stats is immoral. If your going to use an AR to get impossible to get pokemon and you don't have time I'm for it. But hacking to your stats and all that crap is just wrong.

For those of you who are wondering what I got from him it was:
Suicune
Raikou
Entei
Lugia
Arceus

I'm never going to use them except in PBR when I fight him since legends look amazing in PBR. I scough at anyone whos stupid enough to use a hacked pokemon in the PC league or Wi-fi. I find Ev training fun and every pokemon on my Wi-fi team is legit.

[Bishopk]

I still have my AR for GBA, so i use that from time to time :)
All my pokemon from there are legit, just, kinda caught in masterballs :)

[Ichaste Pekoni]

My best friend has an Action replay and he barley ever uses it. He only used it to get key items for the event pokemon. Sure he's given me afew pokemon, but thats only because Pearl is the only pokemon game I own. But we both agree that hacking stats is immoral. If your going to use an AR to get impossible to get pokemon and you don't have time I'm for it. But hacking to your stats and all that crap is just wrong.

I scough at anyone whos stupid enough to use a hacked pokemon in the PC league or Wi-fi. I find Ev training fun and every pokemon on my Wi-fi team is legit.

Seconded all the way. Cheating for the things you can't get normally is fine, but hacking for attacks & stats...is just wrong, especially if you then try to use them against someone else...

[Nightofshadow]

I wont sit here and act like i dont use the thing because i do. I have been ripped off in SOOOO many trades that it lead me to getting one. I had a completely legit celebi and someone stole it because i asked him to clone it. He went and traded it away to someone else. So i said forget it and im getting an action replay to get the pokemon that i want.

[AztecSunshine]

I wont sit here and act like i dont use the thing because i do. I have been ripped off in SOOOO many trades that it lead me to getting one. I had a completely legit celebi and someone stole it because i asked him to clone it. He went and traded it away to someone else. So i said forget it and im getting an action replay to get the pokemon that i want.

wow you just reminded me of some thing now i want ar more i have been planinig on buying one tomoro but they don't sell it on my contry soo i well buy it from the enternet
but i don't think this is true but it might i battle trade for hacked pokes and this never happend i don't think it well ever happen and i hope soo but only for pokemon that have higher states than normorl and impossple moves

[Nightofshadow]

Pokemon with hacked stats/Modded movesets are a problem in my book. However I do neither of those. I just catch the pokemon that i want so that i dont have to trade with dishonest people. I mean unlike most people who use AR at least im being honest about my usage of the device

[Everly84]

If I am not mistaken, it is just hacked pokemon arent allowed on the wifi connection (of course they are working on this). By the way my friend talked (she works for Nintendo) that hacked pokemon can be sorted through the legit pokemon. The way they know is of 2 simple factors. Legit Pokemons encoding string of data is automatical generated by the game itself. A hacked pokemons encoding string of data is generated via the AR/Shark. They also have bad coding strings. If some individuals are not carefull they can generate a hacked pokemon with such bad uncoding data, that that one little pokemon can corrupt or destroy other data strings (pokemon in your party, day care, or box can turn up missing) and if that pokemon gets traded to another cartridge the same thing will happen on that game. Which 75% of the time ends up in total game corruption!

Releasing and trading the hacked pokemon away does not get rid of its encoding string. The game still retains the old data string (remembers it was released or traded away.)
Nintendo wants to stop stuff like this from happening. Otherwise people all over the world will be whining about thier game being messed up and not realize that it was prolly the Shiny Drifloon that they got in the GTS. Not all hacked pkmn are harmfull but they are still detectable as hack (nintendo disqislifies people in tourneys they have if a game cartridge has one hacked pkmn on it, whether you were using it or not. Nintendo discourages cheating.

Everly

[Nightofshadow]

Honestly, I personally WILL not enter any Nintendo tournys so i dont really care =P

[Richard Lynch]

I think banning people who use hacked Pokemon is dumb unless that Pokemon was made to have insane stats or Wonder Guard or moves not otherwise learnable.

If you hack for a Pokemon and it's no different than a legit one, what's the problem?

[furix]

There is also the bad egg, product of badly hacked pokemon, or not knowing how to use a cheatind device.

[Pirate Dave]

I think stupid pokemon should just be labelled 'UNABLE' like when you try to use rayquaza at the battle frontier on emerald. That would make more sense than banning people.

Anyway i'm pretty sure they couldn't detect stuff like EXP. Gain cheats. They're useful for training up the lvl. 17 Bibarel that knows surf, rock climb cut and rock smash that you havent used at all and now your at the elite four with a load of lvl. 50's and 60's and one lvl. 17.

I didn't think of this until AFTER i beat the elite four, so on my HALL OF FAME there really is a level 17 bibarel... Yey. All hail glorious Bibarel!... anyway...

They shouldn't ban FIREBLAST MAGIKARPS either, they're cool. As long as thier stats aren't hacked... which they almost always are... they should ban EVIL fireblast magikarps. but not the coolly useless ones.

Anyway back to the point now, i don't think that AR users who speed up the training process are really cheating, as long as your Pokemon are within the limits of the game, that's fine by me.

[Nightofshadow]

I think banning people who use hacked Pokemon is dumb unless that Pokemon was made to have insane stats or Wonder Guard or moves not otherwise learnable.

If you hack for a Pokemon and it's no different than a legit one, what's the problem?

Exactly. There IS nothing wrong. People just want something to complain about really...

[Angle-san]

I can see it bad when you cheat online but if you don't plan to battle people over wi-fi I think it's totally alright no harm is done to anyone else but yourself.
Like me I'll never battle people with hacked pokemon seems unfair.

I also agree with what Richard Steel said.


side note: Speedboost Cruselax FTW

[Monty Kensicle]

I still have my AR for GBA, so i use that from time to time :)
All my pokemon from there are legit, just, kinda caught in masterballs :)


We were considering doing that as well, but we had no means of procuring that many Master Balls. (We don't own an Action Replay)

So instead we breed a Mawile so it knew False Swipe, and trained it to level 100, then migrated it to Pearl.

We now save lots of money by just buying normal Poke Balls and using my Mawile to help catch the Pokemon we're after.


With all due respect,

~Monty Kensicle

[Bishopk]

In Pearl, I have a Sneasel with false swipe. In Sapphire, I do not :)
It's how i catch all my ditto.

[NocturnLeader]

I catch a ditto and breed itwith my pokemon in all my other games to get Baby Starters. Then tranfer them over.

I never hacked and don't intent to do so now. The only thing i really use is Quick leveling up on my weaker pokemon that i use with my AR and the occasional Run thru anything, if something is blocking my way towards something I want.

I ran to the "Secret Islands" with the run thru cheat. To catch Darkrai and Shaymin. Because I truelly hate the events that pokemon throw, they are never around my area when they do them. Usually in far off cities!

[Everly84]

They are not banning people from being able to get online just the hacked pokemon, they can still use thier legit pokemon that the game itself generated.

Everly

(But of course if you use a cheating device to alter its moves or anything where the cheating device would alter it in anyway, it messes up that pokemons original coding and will become a hack, including leveling them up)

[Voltagenic]

So you think it's cute, trying to cheat on being a pokey-man collecta', huh? I hear you're getting your hits using these Action Replay codes with
• National-Dex
• Catching All 493 Pokemon
• All Shiny
Well, I got news for you, buddy. Word on the street is that Nintendo is banning players who are caught using the aforementioned codes from online play. No trades, no barters, just cold isolation with yourself. My Pokeymans, let me show you them ... I can't? Oh, nuts!

..And who told you this?

A little birdie?

[AztecSunshine]

ya i haev been wondering too i don't think it's true and i don't want it to be true as i am going to hack in near future

[Everly84]

I wont use a cheating device....(i dont even own one anyways) so I have no worries, when they get that situated to make hacks un-usable. I hope its soon Im tired of being whomped by a Caterpie that knows Explosion or Aero Blast....so lame.

Everly

[Kayke™]

Lol, that last statement made me laugh...

I'm sure if it gets out of hand (Like Mario Kart and snaking...) something will be done about it.

I'm all for using shortcuts to raise Pokemon, but as long as everything is completely legit in the end. I don't have an AR, but I'm considering picking one up...'cause I really don't feel like raising a Blissey again, and I probably won't have the time required to raise it to max potential.

[Ichida]

I'm sure if it gets out of hand (Like Mario Kart and snaking...) something will be done about it.

I'm all for using shortcuts to raise Pokemon, but as long as everything is completely legit in the end.

I am 100% with you on both points. :D

[Ho-oh arabia]

Nothing has been done in D/P, but the after effects are in Battle Revolution. ALL POKESAV GENERATED POKEMON TURN INTO UNUSABLE BAD EGGS!!! They take up space and are totally useless.

[jokerplayer]

even if they did ban people from wireless play all you would have to do is swich internet compies with a smaller internet severace provider and if they tryied to bann you they could not because they are only banning people from the huge internet servace providers and if they did your internet servace provider could sue nintendo and win everthing they have

[от_Ian]

I need to tell you, that I did not read any updates on the original news story through out this thread, or any where else.
So it looks like hacked pokemon trainers are only banned from trading on the GTS not from battling or trading via wifi.

[Ichida]

Nothing has been done in D/P, but the after effects are in Battle Revolution. ALL POKESAV GENERATED POKEMON TURN INTO UNUSABLE BAD EGGS!!! They take up space and are totally useless.

:D Nintendo's got the backs of us legitimate players!

[Saud-Blaziken]

its just a rumor plus they still didn't do it with battling and trading.
maybe later

[Britney Spears]

Please check previous post dates before posting. You surpassed the one month revival rule by almost two months.

*closes*