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Star★Seeker
June 20th, 2007, 04:33 PM
I mean he said he would come back for pidgeot, and he went to kanto for the BF he didn't look for it.An In Pace-The Final Frontier he says that Carizard,Bulbasur, and Squirtle were his first pokemons, liesHis first one were Butterfree and Pidgeot, both which he released.This is only for the dub, not the origina, as I have not seen it.

melod.ii ous demyx~♪
June 20th, 2007, 04:55 PM
Well... it's all true. But maybe he just hasn't gotten around to it~ He could still go back for all his old Pokemon someday, but until then he did leave them for a good cause. (Protecting other weaker pokemon, training, helping people.) Lame excuses maybe, but good ones none-the-less.

In truth, I don't think he's really a liar~ just a procrastinator. ^-^

Death Rogers
June 20th, 2007, 05:05 PM
Well his Pokemon have a duty to take care of.

Pidgeot has to protect the pidgeys, and Butterfree has a family to raise.

And about Charizard, Squirtle, and Bulbasaur being his firsts, writers sometimes forget things.

Charaxes
June 20th, 2007, 05:45 PM
He's lazy, a slacker, uh, he put them on layaway!

Voltrex
June 20th, 2007, 06:15 PM
Butterfree actually has a legit reason to be gone, but why Pidgetot??? Im sure atleast one of those pokemon has evolved all the way. Noctawol can fight ghosts and is cunning, Swellow pwns Swamparts,Solrocks,Lunatones,Arcanines and Venasaurs. Staravia is funny. Pidgeyot needs to get a personality before he comes back anyways...

Apathetic_Yen
June 28th, 2007, 08:53 PM
[QUOTE=MiSs~KoN;2542500]Well... it's all true. But maybe he just hasn't gotten around to it~ He could still go back for all his old Pokemon someday, but until then he did leave them for a good cause. (Protecting other weaker pokemon, training, helping people.)QUOTE]

By the time Ash was done with Hoenn, the pidgeys Pidgeot was protecting are probably pidgeottos or pidgeots themselves by now. He's just lazy and the writers don't want to give him Pidgeot back to Ash because it would just be too easy for Ash to win and complete certain outdoor tasks, like carrying Ash around. That's why Charizard is out. Noctowl and Swellow were too small for that and once Staravia has fully evolved, it's over for him. There will be an episode called Bye Bye Staraptor, you're just too powerful for me

RYOUKI
June 29th, 2007, 12:22 AM
Well... it's all true. But maybe he just hasn't gotten around to it~ He could still go back for all his old Pokemon someday, but until then he did leave them for a good cause. (Protecting other weaker pokemon, training, helping people.) Lame excuses maybe, but good ones none-the-less.

In truth, I don't think he's really a liar~ just a procrastinator. ^-^

What does Procaratination has to do with this XD
I agree with you Miss~Kon, He Released his pokemon for a good cause...He Ones releases his Pikachu just to be w/ Pikachu's Friends but that is of course another Story,
Which really bothers me when Ash was in a Gym fight with Falkner....He saw Falkner's Pidgeot and he Hope to come back at his own Pidgeot Someday as he tells Falkner...but He never came back that means Ash IS really a liar for some reason
And in for short...I agree that Ash is a liar

Chibaymega12
June 29th, 2007, 03:49 PM
i wouldn't go as far as he's a liar, but i think it wasn't good of him to just leave pidgeot and butterfree and just drop them, i think at the least there should be an episode about how they're doing

Mr.Altosax
June 29th, 2007, 05:14 PM
Actually I don't think he ever said he was going to come back for Butterfree, of course I may be wrong. Though my opinion is that Butterfree is probably dead...If it's like Beedrill in which the case is...they die after they mate. It would be cool to see Butterfree back again, I was actually kind of sad when it went away. As I was with Primeape, etc.

Of course the Pidgey's that Pidgeot were protecting have evolved, but I'm sure they've bred and there are new generations of Pidgey's to protect. Someday, perhaps for one of the leagues he'll call upon Pidgeot, Primeape, or Charizard to come help him. I would probably seriously celebrate, and leap into the air with joy.

Apathetic_Yen
June 29th, 2007, 05:31 PM
I seriously think that Ash has totally forgotten about Primeape. He lasted for about two episodes and the only significant thing Primeape ever did was that he stole Ash's hat, and Ash doesn't wear that hat anymore. That's a shame, I liked his old hat. He won that hat in a contest where he had to send in a hundred letters for that hat.

Exeter
June 29th, 2007, 07:52 PM
I actually would like to see, if nothing else, how Primeape is doing. He wasn't on the show very long and curiosity on how he is currently doing has arisen. That sad part is Ash off's him just when Primeape starts like him.

Which really bothers me when Ash was in a Gym fight with Falkner....He saw Falkner's Pidgeot and he Hope to come back at his own Pidgeot Someday as he tells Falkner...but He never came back that means Ash IS really a liar for some reason

He could have had at least the courtesy to see how Pidgeot is doing, if nothing else. :\

Extric
June 29th, 2007, 08:14 PM
I didn't know that Ash had released Butterfree. I thought when the boat sunk that he lost his Butterfree, though I may be wrong as I don't remember much from the Kanto episodes.

Though, I'm sure that before the series ends, Ash will have all the Pokémon he once had again. I'm sure it's really hard to include them into the storyline now as Ash is moving to diffrent regions almost the next day he gets back in Kanto. It would be nice to see his Primeape again, but the writers might have a hard time including them in the storyline.

Drifblim
June 30th, 2007, 11:44 AM
Or maybe the fandom adage is right and he's just forgetful.

geordz
June 30th, 2007, 12:21 PM
how come ashs pikachu beata dranite and couldent beat a eltakid??????????????????????????????????????????????????

Chibaymega12
June 30th, 2007, 01:11 PM
oh yeah, i forgot about primate, where did ash leave him, was it at the P1 grand pre? I liked him

Pidgeot needs to come back, there has to be at least ONE other pidgeot in the group that can take care of the pidgey

X-Files
June 30th, 2007, 01:59 PM
In the Jappense anime didnt they have an Opening and Pidgeot and all ash other pokemon Primeape Butterfree ect where on the intro and where all like flying twords ash but it was in japenses so I never knew what it was about.

Exeter
June 30th, 2007, 07:56 PM
I didn't know that Ash had released Butterfree. I thought when the boat sunk that he lost his Butterfree, though I may be wrong as I don't remember much from the Kanto episodes.

Aye, he did release it. There was a whole flock (or whatever Butterfree groups are called) of Butterfree. So Ash let ti loose with them. I think it found a mate to, it was pink to if I remember correctly, but I've always had trouble distinguishing colours, so meh.

pokemonranger_john
July 1st, 2007, 07:39 AM
You shouldn't call him a liar

Ichida
July 1st, 2007, 07:43 AM
Give him a break, he's a 20-year old with a height deficit. (The show's been on for ten years and he was ten when it started. :P) But yeah, he gives away all his Pokemon, then makes no effort to reclaim or even visit anyone besides Charizard, who actually came to him.

thescarface1989
July 2nd, 2007, 01:07 PM
Actually I don't think he ever said he was going to come back for Butterfree, of course I may be wrong. Though my opinion is that Butterfree is probably dead...If it's like Beedrill in which the case is...they die after they mate. It would be cool to see Butterfree back again,


I think in the Japanese version Brock told Ash that it might die after it mates, which is why he cried so much, of course this was taken out of the english version.

Shinji_
July 6th, 2007, 05:05 PM
Who knows, he might go back for them..Although him losing to paul in D/P serious is kinda wack becuase his pokemon should be way stronger but meh....And in the end later I think he will have alllhis pokemon with me but we can only all assume right? :P

Winter Wishes
July 6th, 2007, 05:24 PM
You definately have a valid point here. Butterfree I'm pretty sure he did release for good, but it seems like he's simply given up on all the others. Still, Butterfree flew across the ocean to raise a family, and now Ash has also sailed to new lands. You'd think there would be an episode where they'd at least meet up, or better yead have Butterfree rejoin the team.

Charizard appeared in the third movie to help Ash, I believe, but has yet to return since. None of his other Pokemon have ever been heard from since then too, including the ones left with Professor Oak, the herd of Tauros exlcuded. Seriously, Ash needs to come back and fulfill the promises he made to his friends.

Hydross
July 7th, 2007, 02:42 AM
Charizard appeared in the third movie to help Ash, I believe, but has yet to return since. None of his other Pokemon have ever been heard from since then too, including the ones left with Professor Oak, the herd of Tauros exlcuded. Seriously, Ash needs to come back and fulfill the promises he made to his friends.

The third movie was during the johto season, and since Johto, charizard has returned twice, both times in battle frontier.
(against articuno and against Brandon). Hope we'll see him in Sinnoh as well.

ChibiGingi
July 9th, 2007, 05:38 PM
I am willing to believe that he completely FORGOT about poor Pidgeot after mentioning him in that Johto episode, and Butterfree? Yeah, he long since forgot about THAT little guy.

This is the same kid that forgot that Donphan evolved from Phanpy, guys and uses Electric Pokemon against Ground types. He's not the brightest color in the crayon box. (And I know I just stated the obvious on that one XD)