Hacked Pokémon Battle Reporting thread

[Haruki Hanai]

Community battling: Hacked Pokémon reports
A bit of information
We're all a part of the community at this forum, but it turns out some people are being very unfair in the course of their battling by using hacked Pokémon or false moves in their battles.

As it's becoming a major issue here, and quite a complaint across the forum by numerous users, it's part of our initiative to avoid users from being kept voiceless. We've always held a policy in the Trade forum against it.

Rules regarding hacked Pokémon
You cannot represent yourself with a battle thread if you have hacked Pokémon.
You cannot volunteer to battle other people in their threads with a hacked Pokémon.
Should you wish to battle others with hacked Pokémon, make arrangements over the PM system.
Proven usage of hacked Pokémon will result in punishments.

Reporting violations
Members in this forum are entitled to report offences. If you find someone you battle in your battle thread is using hacked Pokémon, report it here. You may also report to us if a user has a battle thread and uses hacked Pokémon.

Please note that we need to reasonably suspect a person of doing so. Unless you can provide evidence, or numerous people back up the idea that a person is using a hacked Pokémon, we may refuse to take action on a user.

[Nightofshadow]

For the"real" hacker report. We have jirachi87.

Here is our match. At first i knew his pokemon were all hacked because they were all in masterballs. I didnt mind that because i dont mind people hacking pokemon. But when it came down to it it came down to me using a very strong fighting technique on tyranitar. Who happens to be x4 weak to fighting techniques. I used the move and Tyranitars life BARELY moved. Now How is it that when Tyranitar is KNOWN to die to fighting techniques He LIVES through this one? Better yet, How does a 190speed rhyperior out run 230 speed vaporeon with out the use of quickclaw? This hacking stats nonsense is getting out of hand here. Ryperior MAX speed is 190 Im not following on HOW his pokemon was able to outrun mine with out the use of quickclaw. I am getting sick and tired of playing this people who feel they need to cheat to win a match. Hacking stats is so (insert word here) up that I am probably going to stop playing people on this website if it continues

http://pkmncommunity.com/showpost.php?p=2568765&postcount=18

This is proof that someone else ALSO has seen this

[Legacy]

I can also confirm that Jirachi87 (http://www.pokecommunity.com/member.php?u=48611) is a cheating hacker.

My brief battle against him (I disconnected after I realised he was a cheat) goes like this:

My Starmie was up against his Metagross. I used Surf and only did about 15% damage, when it normally does a fair bit more than that. I gave him the benefit of the doubt at first, though. Afterall, he could've ploughed 252 EVs into Sp.Defense and HP and that may have been the reason for the low damage.

However, after his Metagross finally goes down, he brings out Gengar against my Electivire. My Adamant, 252 Attack EV'd Electivire's STAB'd Thunderpunch did just under 30% damage to his Gengar; A Pokémon with very low base defenses. After this, I was sure something was going on. So while battling, I loaded up an online damage calculator to work out how much damage should've been done. And the only way I could've possibly done so little damage was if he had +defense nature and 252 EVs and 31 IVs in HP and Defense.

Now what kind of idiot would use a Gengar like that? But, I still decided to give him the benefit of the doubt until I could conclusively prove he was cheating. I decided that if he had a +defense nature and no EVs in Speed then his Gengar would be relatively slow. So I brought out my Timid, 252 Speed EV'd Gengar against his and, lo and behold, his Gengar outsped mine and would've OHKO'd it had it not been for Focus Sash, yet my Gengar's 252 Sp.Attack STAB Shadow Ball only managed 60-70% damage to him.

So, to conclude, a hacking cheat, and he'll blatantly lie about it when confronted. Don't battle him.

[Nooby McNooberson]

Better yet, How does a 190speed rhyperior out run 230 speed vaporeon with out the use of quickclaw?

Choice Scarf? Salac Berry?

=/

[Legacy]

Choice Scarf? Salac Berry?

=/
No. He said Rhyperior was holding the Quick Claw but it didn't activate on that turn when it outsped his Pokémon.

[Cema]

I want to fight him. That way, I can get it on video. But the reports seem to be good enough. Gengar might have been holding a +Defense item, you know.

[sims796]

I want to fight him. That way, I can get it on video. But the reports seem to be good enough. Gengar might have been holding a +Defense item, you know.

Unliikely. If he cheated twice, more than likely he cheated for Gengar. Even if he didn't, once you've been labeled cheater, it can be hard to prove your case.

[Nightofshadow]

http://pkmncommunity.com/showthread.php?p=2577478&posted=1#post2577478

Another hacker report. Guy ADMITS to using hacked pokemon with wonderguard and SOMEHOW got them from his friend and GTS all at the same time. Smart move man...



Idiot......

[rocklee666]

I want to battle him as soon as I get my game. I'll destroy him.I am well known for stratedgy with my pokemon. I can and will beat him.unlike others I rarely catch pokemon, so that way I can understand my own pokemons limits,weaknesses and strengths like the back of my hand. A lot of poeple just focus on making them stronger. I make my pokemon Have a great spc.Defense and spc.attack and speed. I breed a lot, train them, then breed again to make pokemon with superior strentgh. And thats not cheating ^_^.

[Always and Never]

What does that have to do with reporting hacked pokemon?

Stay on topic xD

[Punishment]

Well for Jirachi87 just look at his profile and see what he is offering to trade. It screams hacker ten times over.

[sims796]

Well for Jirachi87 just look at his profile and see what he is offering to trade. It screams hacker ten times over.

I agree. If that isn't cheating, then he must have some damn good luck. Daraki didn't even come out yet.

[Haruki Hanai]

All of Jirachi87's Wi-Fi Battling Threads are now closed. Should the member post in your own battle threads offering to battle, file reports.

Jirachi87's battle thread ban will last until July 17. 2007.

[Abyssion]

I have a Houndoom that's hacked so that it has perfect IV's, a specific Hidden Power, and it's shiney. Acceptable, or Unacceptable? I'd love to use 'im, but I can always switch some things around so I don't use him.

Edit: His stats in case you wanted to know: Hp-296, Attack-167, Defense-135, Sp. Attack-345, Sp. Def-196, Speed-289.

[от_Ian]

I want to say, having masterballs does not mean you hacked your pokemons.
Also, I think you should only use hacked pokemons against NPCs.

[Abyssion]

I want to say, having masterballs does not mean you hacked your pokemons.
Yes, but having 6 pokémon in masterballs usually means that you cheated to get the masterballs, and the person is likely to do other things like hacking pokémon. Also, having pokémon that can't be in Masterballs, like starters, means that you definently hacked them.

(Pokémon is both the singular and plural form, btw. Just felt like pointing that out. >.>)

[Nightofshadow]

Eh.... I dont care if people use hacked pokemon at all. Hacked STATS on a pokemon are another issue and which is why i consistantly bring these things up with people who use them

[Faceless*]

Eh.... I dont care if people use hacked pokemon at all. Hacked STATS on a pokemon are another issue and which is why i consistantly bring these things up with people who use them

stats? what about illegal moves? so freakin cheep, i already fought a guy that had a Starmie use fire blast >.>

[Always and Never]

All right, so I've been noticing a couple of things.

When people start to lose they automatically assume that pokemon are hacked.

I mean I've had pokemon that have been hacked before, but they're dumb, so I trained my own pokemon straight from eggs.

And low and behold, I start winning a battle and the guy turns off the DS and confronts me from being a cheater.

My point is, their are so many hackers that people think everyone is a hacker. Just, be absolutely sure before you report someone in here, and I think people should get a chance to prove that they're not hacked, by posting all the information on their pokemon. If you don't believe the information, have a quick trade to see the summary.

I'm just tired of being accused because I start to win.

Sorry I EV train people, it's not my fault my match type is super effective against yours.

Calm down about hacking, and if you see a person in the Action Replay code thread, then they're a hacker.

Maybe someone should start a list where people show their pokemon and get proof and won't be able to get suspected.

[Nightofshadow]

You have been accused of hacking. You even admitted to it so who what do you expect =\

[Sabaku no Gaara]

Calm down about hacking, and if you see a person in the Action Replay code thread, then they're a hacker.

That is not neccisaraly (sp??) true. I've posted twice in an AR thread, but none of them have to do with hacking my pokemon. (unless you consider changing the OT hacking (i get bothered at the littlest things so I wanted to change the OT of my Huntail) which I don't) the other one was for 999 max elixers to make going through the E4 100 times. you can't use max elixers or any items like that in competitive battling. I just wanted to state that not everyone in the AR thread is a hacker who just wants there pkmn to smoke everyone online. I EV train and train to lv. 100 legitly, and i havn't even gotten a lv. 100 pkmn yet.

[Nightofshadow]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bw6Ko3T8is

I am reporting shadowdragon of the "takers" This video is made to show you his hacking nature. Kudos to cema for getting it recorded

[sims796]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bw6Ko3T8is

I am reporting shadowdragon of the "takers" This video is made to show you his hacking nature. Kudos to cema for getting it recorded

Oh my God. Now I don't know how a Plusle, who has 40 base defence, could have possibly of surviving an Areodactyl's Earthquake by even a small margin of health. Also, an Areodactyl's sp.def should have prevented such damage, despite Plusle's sp.att. And how did Raichu survive?

Nighty, you were right. That guy screams hacker all over.

[<Nico>]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bw6Ko3T8is

I am reporting shadowdragon of the "takers" This video is made to show you his hacking nature. Kudos to cema for getting it recorded

I endorse this report... Kudos to cema on my behalf aswell

[StealthDragon]

Lol at Starmie using fire blast. Hacking movesets is the most stupidest thing to do it dosent even help in no shap fashion or form. Using AR to catch wild pokemon is cool. Using it to hack and get CRAZY stats is cheating. In PBR you cant even use pokemon like that they turn right into bad eggs. If the hacker really has hack stat pokemon face them in pbr..cuz i bet they wont do it cuz the game wont let them. Too bad in D/P this happens alot..try battling with friends that you know dont hack stats..

[xcjzerox]

Lol at Starmie using fire blast. Hacking movesets is the most stupidest thing to do it dosent even help in no shap fashion or form. Using AR to catch wild pokemon is cool. Using it to hack and get CRAZY stats is cheating. In PBR you cant even use pokemon like that they turn right into bad eggs. If the hacker really has hack stat pokemon face them in pbr..cuz i bet they wont do it cuz the game wont let them. Too bad in D/P this happens alot..try battling with friends that you know dont hack stats..
not really i battle someone who has a darkrai and here a video who is using darkrai

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjvtuVS20-g&mode=related&search=

[Myoko-chan]

I think the reported user(s) should have their FC(s) listed too, just incase the person makes another account.

[sims796]

Unfortunatley, we can't really force that on them. Some people would rather keep their FC private. Maybe for a second offense, yeah, but if I gave my FC to somebody, they have no right to give it out.

[Faceless*]

http://www.pkmncommunity.com/showthread.php?t=89959&page=6

Alright, i didn't even want to do this, but all he does is lie, and trash talk at me after I and few others saying that HE DOES HACK!

He used an Aggron with sandstream, and says his Aggron use the sandstorm itself. I had a Skarmory out first, he had an Aerodactyl. He withdraws his Aerodactyl, for Aggron (wtf, why Aggron?) and the sandstorm comes into the game, saying that it's sandstream whipped up a sandstorm. After we all admit he hacks, all he can say is "Nameless can't read", or "If Nameless hadn't brought this bullsh*t up ---".

why not go there yourself using the link above >.>

[Nightofshadow]

I cosign the above, I will conduct a personal investigation of this matter.

[Hinamori_Momo]

i went to nameless's link and id have to agree with night and nameless. this guy does hack. i would know a hacker when i see it and when it comes to Shift, Nameless111, and Nightofshadow in a 3:1 argument when they ALL battled the same pokemon i agree. He hacks AND talks trash to others in the SAME clan.

[☼Charlie☼]

I also looked at that thread and agree that this guy used a hacked pokemon.



Calm down about hacking, and if you see a person in the Action Replay code thread, then they're a hacker.



Not true. Not true at all. Just because someone has an action replay doesn't mean they have hacked pokemon. Even if they have hacked pokemon from an AR, it doesn't matter unless they actually use those hacked pokemon in a battle. I myself have an action replay and have hacked pokemon, but I do not use them in battles after realizing how much everyone hates them.

[Light Yagami]

I also looked at that thread and agree that this guy used a hacked pokemon.





Not true. Not true at all. Just because someone has an action replay doesn't mean they have hacked pokemon. Even if they have hacked pokemon from an AR, it doesn't matter unless they actually use those hacked pokemon in a battle. I myself have an action replay and have hacked pokemon, but I do not use them in battles after realizing how much everyone hates them.

I don't hack pokemon but I do however own an action replay, you can't say that all action replay users are hackers. If my mini usb was working I'd probably hack some pokemon in to trade over WTS, they're requests are crazy.

[Sabaku no Gaara]

haha, I've hacked just the three event pokemon except manaphy, then released them cuz I wanted to fill out my Sinnoh Legendary area and my little bro traded me his Dialga and I traded Palkia, then we traded right back. So not every AR owner does hack the pokemon they use in competitive battles, like us three.

and yes GTS requests are crazy, I searched level 9 and under Bidoof just for the heck of it and there were 3 people, 1) Lv. 100 Dialga 2) Lv. 100 Cresselia 3) Lv. 100 Lugia

They're crazy out there.

[sims796]

More like insulting. Maybe they think we are dumb with request like those.

[<Nico>]

More like insulting. Maybe they think we are dumb with request like those.

makes me wanna get an AR and make plenty of lvl 100 legendaries with 1 point per stat and splash as every move just to punish them >_>

[Sabaku no Gaara]

you know, that wouldn't be a bad idea....*goes and does it* haha.
btw nico, can you take my misdreavus or magby today?

[sims796]

Hold up, now we are begining to spam. Lets chill before we get in trouble.

[Ichaste Pekoni]

Calm down about hacking, and if you see a person in the Action Replay code thread, then they're a hacker.

I posted codes in the Action Replay thread, but I don't hack Pokemon. Don't automatically assume that, since one is true, then the other must be true. My Pokemon online are completely legitimate.

On the other hand, I've run into quite a few hackers lately. However, they've already been dealt with, so......is there really much of a point in bringing them up again?

[Always and Never]

That was a joke. I'm just saying, some people when they start to lose, they automatically assume someone hacked.

I've used pokemon that were hacked before, but my latest team isn't, and like 2 people said they were. I just get tired of it.

[~Mithos~]

Calm down about hacking, and if you see a person in the Action Replay code thread, then they're a hacker.

I posted on there asking what a pokesav. was, i'm not a hacker =P

[☼Charlie☼]

That was a joke. I'm just saying, some people when they start to lose, they automatically assume someone hacked.

I've used pokemon that were hacked before, but my latest team isn't, and like 2 people said they were. I just get tired of it.
Guys let's not rag on scyther too much, he has already stated that the comment "If you see someone in the Action Replay Code thread, then they're a hacker," was simply a joke and now we all know it is not true. So let's try and decrease the amount of comments on that. Don't take this the wrong way because I also commented on that at some point in this thread.

[Faceless*]

That was a joke. I'm just saying, some people when they start to lose, they automatically assume someone hacked.

I've used pokemon that were hacked before, but my latest team isn't, and like 2 people said they were. I just get tired of it.


Thats because they are :\

I mean, your Porygon-Z outrunning my staraptor w/out a quick claw?

[Always and Never]

I told you, I have no idea how I outran you. I'm still trying to figure it out.

Seriously, my pokemon are in PBR. Pokemon Battle Revolution won't let hacked pokemon through, so there's no way that it is over the max.

Especially like 328, it would just turn into a bad egg.

[Trace]

I told you, I have no idea how I outran you. I'm still trying to figure it out.

Seriously, my pokemon are in PBR. Pokemon Battle Revolution won't let hacked pokemon through, so there's no way that it is over the max.

Especially like 328, it would just turn into a bad egg.

Scyther is exactly right. That I know of about PBR, they would cap Pokemon with stats over the limit, turning them into a bad egg.

Not to mention, I've heard this occur before.
And yes, this is getting offtopic. Try and keep it ontopic, guys. =\

[StealthDragon]

I told you, I have no idea how I outran you. I'm still trying to figure it out.

Seriously, my pokemon are in PBR. Pokemon Battle Revolution won't let hacked pokemon through, so there's no way that it is over the max.

Especially like 328, it would just turn into a bad egg.

Choice scarf? A move that has speed priority? Anywho...i use AR to catch my poke and then i EV train...i dont have much time to breed but i have a couple pokes that i breed before. I hate when ppl think i hack i never even touched stats like that!

[Nightofshadow]

Choice scarf? A move that has speed priority? Anywho...i use AR to catch my poke and then i EV train...i dont have much time to breed but i have a couple pokes that i breed before. I hate when ppl think i hack i never even touched stats like that!

Hacking pokemon and EV training is one thing. Hacking pokemon with insane stats is completely different and is generally frowned upon.

[Faceless*]

Choice scarf? A move that has speed priority? Anywho...i use AR to catch my poke and then i EV train...i dont have much time to breed but i have a couple pokes that i breed before. I hate when ppl think i hack i never even touched stats like that!

ok, if he says hes holding a Choice Scarf, im going to freakin laugh at him

http://www.pkmncommunity.com/showpost.php?p=2590150&postcount=1

[StealthDragon]

Ahh i see...that is weird...maybe he lied and has choice scarf on..lmfao..or maybe its hacked!

[Nightofshadow]

Dark Palkia: He uses hacked shiny ubers with insane stats and a wonderguarded lucario. Be on the look out for this

[Burzes]

Im reporting Nizzly for hacking a shaymin I dont even know if its possible to even get the shaymin event in Jpan yet. Click here for the whole thread/topic (http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?p=2618704#post2618704)

[Always and Never]

Japanese surf glitch. Sorry but he didn't hack it ^_^

[☼Charlie☼]

Legit Shaymin are obtainable in the Japanese version of the game.

[Purfugly]

Claimed to have Arceus. (http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?p=2620734&posted=1#post2620734)
As far as I know, all Arceus come from hacking.

EDIT: http://www.pokecommunity.com/showpost.php?p=2620553&postcount=3
^That is more specific.

[Faceless*]

Claimed to have Arceus. (http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?p=2620734&posted=1#post2620734)
As far as I know, all Arceus come from hacking.

EDIT: http://www.pokecommunity.com/showpost.php?p=2620553&postcount=3
^That is more specific.

Why does it say you're a beginning trainer? LOL! Hes hacker

[Purfugly]

Why does it say you're a beginning trainer? LOL! Hes hacker

Yeah, and I'm sure the Darkrai is probably hacked, too.

[sims796]

I don't really mind hacked pokemon, I just don't like hacked stats.

[Faceless*]

I don't really mind hacked pokemon, I just don't like hacked stats.

Your right, i dont to, but If they use Arceus, you KNOW they hack, light NightofShadows said, there are very few "fair" Action Replay users... :(

[Senerio]

Just for the note, this is for reporting users of hacked battlers, not legendary reporting.

[sims796]

Just for the note, this is for reporting users of hacked battlers, not legendary reporting.

I know, but what if they just hack pokes but not stats? Then hacked battlers like Jirachi ruins it for the rest. But your right, this is for hacked battlers. That just gets under my skin.

[Gedow_Trainer]

His name is Opdi. Not only did all of his pokemon have maxed stats, but he even admitted to me he cheats. And all of his Pokemon came in Master balls. He's dispicable

[Opdi]

His name is Opdi. Not only did all of his pokemon have maxed stats, but he even admitted to me he cheats. And all of his Pokemon came in Master balls. He's dispicable

First of all, my only Pokemon with max stats is Porygon Z with 405 sp.attack, and I didn't even hack it. I admit that I cheated to GET the Pokemon, but then I EV trained them completely without hacking. I'm really just too lazy too find them :P, but none of my Pokemon have hacked stats. They aren't bad eggs on PBR either.

[Ichida]

If you hacked to get it, then it's still hacked. Laziness is a lame and unjustifiable reason to hack Pokemon. <.<;

[Opdi]

Why does it even matter? Their stats aren't too high, and I even spent all that time EV training them. Its not like I have an unfair advantage or anything.

[Gedow_Trainer]

If you hacked to get it, then it's still hacked. Laziness is a lame and unjustifiable reason to hack Pokemon. <.<;

I know. If you're a good trainer you can go get them yourself. Like I do. I never, ever cheat. I get my own Pokemon, and when I do, I know I've earned it. Now if you'll excuse me I'm trying to catch a ditto

[Luigi264]

umm...hello? is someone here welling to take the time to check my pokemon's stats? because i know a few people in this thread think i am a cheater when i swear that i'm not!!!
...please don't hurt me...~covers head & and trembles in fear~

[Richard Lynch]

If you hacked to get it, then it's still hacked. Laziness is a lame and unjustifiable reason to hack Pokemon. <.<;

Sure, they're"hacked", but they're still technically "legal". Would you tell the difference between a legit Porygon-Z bred for a 405 Attack, and a hacked Porygon-Z with 405 Attack?

And sure hacking is justifiable:

See, I have this real moron thing I do called having a life.

And many people who hack are the same. That's when its justified. Not everyone can sit around for hours on end breeding for an electric mouse with perfect stats. However, when someone hacks for insane stats, all maxed out, THEN it becomes unjustifiable. Good hackers hack to play the game; bad hackers hack to win. And personally, I have to say most of the latter aren't really good at their job. XD

[Ichida]

Just because your time frame is limited doesn't mean you can't play legitimately. Spread your training efforts over a longer period of time, take the game with you when you go places. Sure, that means you're team will take longer to breed and raise, but at least they'll be legit. Right now the only excuse I'm seeing is laziness.

[Luigi264]

well i am correcting my stat mistake and when i am done, I CHALENGE YOU Ichida! I'M NOT AFRAID TO LOSES A BATTLE OR TWO!

[sims796]

Just because your time frame is limited doesn't mean you can't play legitimately. Spread your training efforts over a longer period of time, take the game with you when you go places. Sure, that means you're team will take longer to breed and raise, but at least they'll be legit. Right now the only excuse I'm seeing is laziness.

Seriously, Pokemon is not the only game I have. If I have to 'schedule' time to play, it isn't worth playing. Then it becomes a chore, and I do enough of that everyday. Some people have jobs, kids, or both, and they have little time to themselves. Then they have to spend time training? I have other games I would like to play in what little time I have to play. You can't sit on your high horse and judge people lazy for cheating at A GAME THEY BOUGHT, while telling them to play on their free time. If they cheat, fine. As long as they don't get insane stats, all good, like Richard said. If me & you ever battled, you would never know whether I cheated or not, cause their stats are normal. And I didn't. I have the time to train, so I will.

And don't say "at least they'll be legit". Like I said, if Richard cheated (which he doesn't) you can never tell. Stop acting like legit is so holy. It's not up to you to decide whether legit isthe best or not. Its up to those playing the games.

[Ichida]

I have a job, a girlfriend, several forums to moderate, a novel to write, events to plan for, and still I get in the time I need to raise a perfectly legit team. What people need to learn is that Pokemon is a game of skill, selection, and patience, not to mention luck when it comes to some scenarios. If you can't learn how to adapt, how to play it for real, stick to the weak in-game trainers and don't bother taking on any real competitors with your hacked monstrosities. Not that anyone with real skill would fight you knowing your Pokemon were hacked anyways.

[Luigi264]

I have a job, a girlfriend, several forums to moderate, a novel to write, events to plan for, and still I get in the time I need to raise a perfectly legit team. What people need to learn is that Pokemon is a game of skill, selection, and patience, not to mention luck when it comes to some scenarios. If you can't learn how to adapt, how to play it for real, stick to the weak in-game trainers and don't bother taking on any real competitors with your hacked monstrosities. Not that anyone with real skill would fight you knowing your Pokemon were hacked anyways.

wow! talk about total obsession, anything else you do on free time besides playing a Wii or something?

[Ichida]

I've been spending most of the last week playing Osu Tatakae Ouendan 2, lol. I'm also trying to finish a few PS2 games and I'm torrenting the entirety of the old Mainframe series, Transformers Beast Wars, in addition to the few hundred gigs of anime I still have that I haven't watched yet, lol.

[Luigi264]

...................................

[sims796]

Skill, selection, and pactince? True. Even if you have all those things going on, it doesn't justify you telling people that they must not cheat to play the game correctly. You saying that people must play the game "the legit way" makes it seem like you're way up high above all others telling everyone else how to play right. Thats not fair. Just cause you can make time, doesn't mean everyone else can.

You have to have understanding for other curcumstances before you start calling people lazy. You're not that ahead to start saying how others should play & that they should make time. And don't start spewing the word weak. That shows you feel you are better than everyone else, NOT THAT I'M SAYING YOU DO FEEL LIKE THAT, YOU'RE WORDS MAKE IT SEEM THAT. Felt I had to cap that.

Besides, its their game. They can cheat if they want. You didn't make the game. I don't want to buy a game if it's a chore, cause I do that in real life. I got other games to play.

[Luigi264]

by the way. sims796, didn't you want to battle me?




right. good idea.

[sims796]

Lets take this to 'the clan' thread, before we get in trouble, Luigi264.

[Gedow_Trainer]

First of all, my only Pokemon with max stats is Porygon Z with 405 sp.attack, and I didn't even hack it. I admit that I cheated to GET the Pokemon, but then I EV trained them completely without hacking. I'm really just too lazy too find them :P, but none of my Pokemon have hacked stats. They aren't bad eggs on PBR either.

It doesn't matter. Read the second rule

[Dragon Commando]

Hacking pokemon and EV training is one thing. Hacking pokemon with insane stats is completely different and is generally frowned upon.
I completely agree. I don't particularly mind if a person uses an Action Replay to catch Pokemon that only appear in another game (Like how you need Pokemon Colosseum to get a Houndour, or how you can get Murkrow in Fire Red but not Leaf Green). I have done this several times, but afterwards I train them myself. I don't quite know if you have the same views on this part of the debate, so I will respect your opinion. However, hacking for ridiculous stats is probably the most despicable thing ever - I wouldn't do it if you paid me. A Pokemon that is one of the slowest in the game moving first against one of the fastest in the game? That's only possible with hacked stats.

Going back to the first part of my rant, I have a Froslass in a Master Ball because I was trying to catch a Snorunt for a while and didn't want to risk knocking it out. HOWEVER, I trained it fairly before I evolved it, so I think that in my personal opinion cheating for Master Balls isn't the worst thing a person can cheat for.

Again, this is my opinion. I will respect anyone else's.

[Light Yagami]

Your right, i dont to, but If they use Arceus, you KNOW they hack, light NightofShadows said, there are very few "fair" Action Replay users... :(

I am an Action Replay User, as of yet I haven't been to get it connected because of vista. However there are MANY fair Action Replay users, you can't snipe a WHOLE group of people because of what SOME do. hacked pokemon are completely harmless, its when the stats come into play is where I completely cross the line. If you can't train pokemon well don't compete.

[Alizée Jacotey]

HEy Fiore is a hacker.

Her pokemon are on lv 50-60(some with bad stats) and mine 80's and she won me. Or am I too bad?(I don't think so)

But its fine I lose i admit it.

[Fiore]

I am not a hacker. Have you heard of EV TRAINING? You are a terrible battler. also you said no ubers/legends, and you broke your own rule.

[Alizée Jacotey]

I am not a hacker. Have you heard of EV TRAINING?

Ok, ok. I losed Its ok, but I don't know how a Garchomp with 120-130's of attack won against a Latias' 185 defense...
And how a garchomp with 170's speed attacks first against a Lati@s with 219/217.....

But it is ok you won.

[☼Charlie☼]

If her pokemon were in the 50-60s but they were EV trained, they could easily be as strong as 80s. Also, strategy has to do with a big part of it.

[electricgrass]

Ok, so say that you used Action Replay to get like straight 31's in all stats, but still Ev'ed them and such until you got to the legal max(510 ev's).

is that still concidered hacking?

[Ichida]

Yes, since they hacked IVs.

[electricgrass]

ok, just checking on that- but one more thing, if you bred said perfect pokes with other pokes, perfect or not, would the babies be legal?

[Nightofshadow]

They would be what you call "semi legit" But they still would be considered hacked and thus are not allowed to be traded on the forum

[Ichida]

That would fall under the category that includes event-hacking for Darkrai, etc. The Pokemon itself is perfectly legit, but there are a lot of people who won't appreciate your methods nonetheless.

[Haruki Hanai]

I'm glad for the few users having a dispute with Master.Over.All, but I must ask that posts in this thread aren't irrelevant and serve to prove that people are using hacked Pokémon in battle. Disconnectors and Forfeiters, and discrediting them for such things, is not something this thread exists for. As part of that, the posts have been deleted.

[finallegacy]

rogersanchez12 hacks, he used phione with wondergaurd and a move called sacred fire. the rest of his pokemon were probably hacked too

[Nightofshadow]

I think this place needs people who can inspect pokemon incase hacking stats and movelists comes up. So if i may i would like to be that person, If not then we will just have to play it by ear

[Shifty]

Eh, Dark Piplup has a hacked Lucario. Caught in a Master/Great ball.

[Always and Never]

Just cause it was caught in a master ball doesn't mean it's hacked.

Seriously.

[msdfabio]

Just cause it was caught in a master ball doesn't mean it's hacked.

Seriously.

True, but Lucario or Riolu never appear in the wild so it means someone has hacked it if they are caught in anything but a Pokeball.

[Shift]

That's eaxctly my point. Sorry I didn't explain further.

[xcjzerox]

True, but Lucario or Riolu never appear in the wild so it means someone has hacked it if they are caught in anything but a Pokeball.

Lucario there a event call palcity it should appear in a cherish ball...

Edit; okay yes it should be in a pokeball nothing else sorry .. there is an event call palcity as well....

[Faceless*]

Eh, Dark Piplup has a hacked Lucario. Caught in a Master/Great ball.

Doesnt really matter if you hack pokemon INTO the game. What really matters is illegal movesets/hacked stats/incorrect ability

[Nightofshadow]

Doesnt really matter if you hack pokemon INTO the game. What really matters is illegal movesets/hacked stats/incorrect ability

Correct. Im glad someone finally gets it lol

[Luigi264]

and believe me shifty, it is not cool battling wifi with crazy hacked pokemon! it does not feel good at all!!!!!!!!!!

[Ichida]

Um, no. If it was obtained any way other than where it's listed as being obtainable, it's hacked and shouldn't be allowed. Doesn't matter if it's any stronger or not, it just shows laziness if someone's not willing to get the Pokemon legitimately. And don't say that people who don't want to buy the other games aren't lazy, because I'm sure it's not that hard to obtain a mere thirty dollars. I've seen the GBA games for just twelve dollars at ever ystore I've been to recently. Besides, money issues aside, you can just as easily put up a trade request for whatever you don't want to buy a game to get, then breed your own version. In summation, the only reason people have for hacking non-legendary Pokemon is their own ineptitude and laziness, and it's a damn sorry excuse at that.

[Nightofshadow]

*Yawn*

So anyway, People will do what they want to do with their stuff. You can complain all you want but it isnt changing anything so have a blast complaining.

*Going back on topic before these posts actually get deleted again*

[Ichida]

Oh, good comeback. Like I said, laziness. Ironic that laziness motivates more people than anything else.

[sims796]

I'm glad to see your in a position to judge people lazy or not. Its nice to see some people able to judge others without considersation. If a person illegally got a poke with fair stats & moves, you couldn't tell. Whether they belong is just a matter of opinion, but it would be near impossible to determind a fair-hacker. If my Torterra has 394 HP, fairly, how can you tell if someone else has a Torterra with 394 HP? And both has fair stats all around.

We can only control those who unfairly hack stats, as Nightofshadow always say.

Now lets drop the subject at that. We don't wanna get in trouble.

[Ichida]

Love your consistent attitude towards me. :P If you're gonna accuse me like that, then prove that I'm not allowed to make that call. Each and every non-event Pokemon in my collection I caught without having to encounter-hack them. I admit there are some that are troublesome to get, but like I said before, that's what trading was created for. I didn't have to stoop to hacking them like some of us, because I'm not nearly as weak-willed as people who don't understand the purpose of trading and breeding are, or those too cheap to go out and buy another version.

[sims796]

Thats good for you. Some aren't in your position, so before you start calling out laziness, consider different predicaments. Not all has wi-fi to trade, and not everyone has people to help get a Porygon-2 to evole. It seems like you feel that you are that far ahead to judge others.

Sorry if you felt I was getting on you, I didn't mean for it to sound like that. Lets stop before we spam, or worse, flame.

[Gedow_Trainer]

Love your consistent attitude towards me. :P If you're gonna accuse me like that, then prove that I'm not allowed to make that call. Each and every non-event Pokemon in my collection I caught without having to encounter-hack them. I admit there are some that are troublesome to get, but like I said before, that's what trading was created for. I didn't have to stoop to hacking them like some of us, because I'm not nearly as weak-willed as people who don't understand the purpose of trading and breeding are, or those too cheap to go out and buy another version.

That right there... that is precicely what I think. I get Pokemon I can't get from trading and the rest catch myself. I got a Lickitung yesterday

[RayquazaWrath]

Are movie Darkrai's allowed?

[-Lugia-]

Yes, it is allowed, but only as long as it IS a Movie-event Darkrai.

Am I right? Anyone?

[Light Yagami]

not alot of people play with ubers, so its still iffy

[Shiraishi]

If someone uses arceus in a battle should he be banned :x

[71796]

Hey i got someone who hacked there manaphy and i have proof cause he comes out and says that he ared it. His name is xxTragicNightmare and he admits it when I see his manaphy come out of a master ball. My thread is 'first battle...' and it is post number 21 and 22 and admits that all his pokemon are in master balls.

[Shiraishi]

Also, xxTragicNightmare used an arceus. Which we all know is impossible to get w/o cheating.

[Nightofshadow]

No form of darkrai is allowed unless its used in uber battles.

[Haruki Hanai]

The rules do not specify that people must absolutely say in their thread that "uber" or whatever is allowed. In fact, I don't care for uber battler crud here. Although the fact an Arceus was brought into battle strikes as curious.

xxTragicNightmare's battle threads are now closed until the 15th. He may create a new battle thread after that date. Please report any further incidents where he battles you or creates a thread until then.

[FoxHound]

I wont say the name without positive confirmation but my Aerodactyl Jolly Full spd ev's and 30 Iv was outsped by a Charizard without quick claw activating...

[Ichida]

Two words: Choice Scarf, lol.

[Richard Lynch]

I wont say the name without positive confirmation but my Aerodactyl Jolly Full spd ev's and 30 Iv was outsped by a Charizard without quick claw activating...

It was probably a Choice Scarf incident.

The only way a Charizard would EVER be able to outrun a Jolly Aero like that without Choice Scarf is if the hacker set the stats to 999, or something, which you don't see too often. Also for that you would be able to tell instantly, long before Aero even came out (when a Flamethrower can OHKO a Milotic, something ain't right, right? :P)

[Volkner's Apprentice]

This is probably a noobish question in terms of hacked pokemon; Gamesharks = hacked correct? My brother uses some just to add to his collection, I'd rather get them legitimately but..yeah.

As another question, where is Celebi available legitimately? Only at events?

[Ichida]

There is no English event release for Celebi, so if the Celebi isn't Japanese, it's hacked.

[Myoko-chan]

There is no English event release for Celebi, so if the Celebi isn't Japanese, it's hacked.

Er... Does 10th Anniversary Event ring a bell? =PPPP

[Ichida]

Ah, right. I already have a Japanese Celebi so I haven't been paying attention to events.

[Richard Lynch]

Er... Does 10th Anniversary Event ring a bell? =PPPP

PWNED!

I won't say anything about my view on hacking, since I stand with Nightofshadow.

EDIT:

Damnit, Cema told me my attempt at humor was futile. Ah well, *I* thought it was funny.

Anyway, just to stay on topic, so and so uses hacked Pokemon, and this guy has all shinies, and this other guy has all his Pokemon in Master Balls and Cherish Balls, blah blah blah.

[Samson]

Foxhound was talking about my choice scarf Charizard.

i hope he/she doesn't think i'm a complete idiot and would send a charizard in against an aero w/o some sort of speed boost ._.

[fearow23]

I would like to report theplaya for using hacked pokemon during our battle. He used a sceptile caught in a masterball. I also fought against a dragonite and gengar caught in masterballs aswell.

[ThePlaya]

they are in masterballs.THEY DONT HAVE HACKDED STATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!OKAY I PLAY FAIR. THEY ARE ONLY IN A MASTERBALL. AGAIN THEY DONT HAVE HACKED STATS!!!!!!!!!!!!

[fearow23]

yes there hacked pokemons because they are in masterballs.but who would spend 20-40 dollars on another pokemon game just to get the pokemon you want. THEY DONT HAVE HACKDED STATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!OKAY I PLAY FAIR. THEY ARE ONLY IN A MASTERBALL. AGAIN THEY DONT HAVE HACKED STATS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Then just ask around to trade for them. I can easily breed for a dratini and gengar. I also have a Treecko I can trade you. It's not too hard to trade around here for basic pokemon. In fact some people give them out.

[Myoko-chan]

I have battled ThePlaya before, and what he is saying is correct, his pokemon do NOT have hacked stats, personally, I'm fine with that but I'm not sure about the community rules regarding the difference between hacked pokemon and pokemon with hacked stats.

[fearow23]

Ok, I'll drop the case. If theplaya wishes, I'll give him a legit dragonite, treecko, and gastly for free.

[ThePlaya]

well i already trained them and they dont have hacked stats. the only difference is that they are in masteballs.i played fair. and if i want a gengar i need to trade somebody again so that the haunter can evolve. and i dont have anybody to trade with now since my cousins DS broke

[fearow23]

well i already trained them and they dont have hacked stats. the only difference is that they are in masteballs.i played fair. and if i want a gengar i need to trade somebody again so that the haunter can evolve. and i dont have anybody to trade with now since my cousins DS broke

PM me when you want to evolve it, I won't mind helping out.

[ThePlaya]

PM me when you want to evolve it, I won't mind helping out.

but i already trained them and is going to take forever to get them to level 100. and i dont really want to train another one

[sims796]

Please, lets get back to topic, before the mods come.

[DropkickFatman]

What if the pokemon was hacked, but didn't have hacked stats?

For example, a Blastoise with 29/25/31/30/30/26 ivs.

Just asking, because some people still want to play fair but don't have time to spend hours breeding for great IVs.

[sims796]

We wouldn't be able to tell. So it doesn't matter.

[Light Yagami]

We wouldn't notice but it sure seems lazy to me

[sims796]

Yes. If I gotta spend 5 hours breeding, and here you come with perfect IVs, I wanna see blood. Lots of it. But keep yer trap shut, and no one will notice.

[PsyDragon Trainer]

Name: caleb51
FC: 3694 6586 2217
Reason: Uses Arceus and Darkrai. (xD)

[-: Trey :-]

Well Darkrai has been released in Japan so its not really a true sign of a hack just wanted to point that out

[Ichaste Pekoni]

Well Darkrai has been released in Japan so its not really a true sign of a hack just wanted to point that out

It it's name is in English or has more than five characters, it is.

[Spinda]

New report.
Skeleton90
He had an Arceus and made all the pokemon, including mine, shiny.
Then he 1 hit KO'ed somehow my Buzz somehow and fled at the end.

[Asch_R2]

they are in masterballs.THEY DONT HAVE HACKDED STATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!OKAY I PLAY FAIR. THEY ARE ONLY IN A MASTERBALL. AGAIN THEY DONT HAVE HACKED STATS!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have to agree with the masterball thing, if you have more than one pokemon in a masterball people automatically accuse you of hacking. I mean hacking stats is bad and i think anyone who does shouldn't be allowed to battle unless the other person knows there hacked. However if someone wants to use an AR to get 999 masterballs i dont see the problem they are not hurting anyone, only making life a little easier to get the desired team slighty easier.

[ThePlaya]

I have to agree with the masterball thing, if you have more than one pokemon in a masterball people automatically accuse you of hacking. I mean hacking stats is bad and i think anyone who does shouldn't be allowed to battle unless the other person knows there hacked. However if someone wants to use an AR to get 999 masterballs i dont see the problem they are not hurting anyone, only making life a little easier to get the desired team slighty easier.

thank you shuya. thats what i think to. i dont see what the problem is i just care if they have hacked stats

[Mike™]

all right. i just wanted to make sure of this. Can Blissey come out in a ultra ball. (in dp).

[~Mithos~]

yah, if the chansey is caught in an ultra ball in the trophy garden only though.

[Samson]

actually, you can also find several chansey in the wild by the town where the day care couple is. i've ran into a few and wished there was a "spit" option each time.

[─AdvancedK9─]

SHADOWDRAGON HASN'T BEEN REPORTED YET!? At exclactly 0:58 of
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bw6Ko3T8is

Shadow(which is Shadowdragon as proven in the second page of Risk:Pokemon Edition in the Games Section) Had dusk ball, and inside that Dusk ball, was A SHINY SCEPTILE.
I should have done this some time ago but i had fear of people not beleiving me, in that page and in the video is proof that ShadowDragon is a hacker.

[Nightofshadow]

lol old business man... hmmmm

[sims796]

All of ThePlaya's pokemon are in Master balls, but none have hacked stats. He's ok.

[─AdvancedK9─]

lol old business man... hmmmm
I don't see why ShadowDragon accused himself in the 2nd page of this. just to be unsucpecting? You guys should pay attention. There is no way that dude is Night of Shadow, SHE is ShadowDragon, you want more evidence quotet fresh from the thread?

[sims796]

I'm sorry, but of all the dumbest...She's been here longer than Shadow.

[Nightofshadow]

me and shadowdragon are clearly different people. Im saying its old because everyone KNOWS he's a hacker.

[sims796]

Night, don't explain yourself. To make a claim like that in public is just absolutely ludicros. Before you say Nightofshadow, or anyone else, is the same person just logged in a different name, come with better things, other than "she says thats old news".

I get touchy when you accuse a friend of mine, without concreate proof.

[─AdvancedK9─]

Incase you're confused i meant SHADOWDRAGON164 (or somthing). I don't know why she isn't reported yet.

[sims796]

I don't see why ShadowDragon accused himself in the 2nd page of this. just to be unsucpecting? You guys should pay attention. There is no way that dude is Night of Shadow, SHE is ShadowDragon, you want more evidence quotet fresh from the thread?

Sounds like you weere accusing Night to me.

[Always and Never]

Who cares if he accuesed Night? She has just as much probable cause as the next person to be accused, since now that everybody who plays in the Wireless Battle Stadium are sore losers with that "I don't care about hacked pokemon only hacked stat ones" everyone gets reported. Believe me, whenever I face anybody and win they accuse me for hacking because my Choice Scarfed Cross will outrun they're precious Espeon or something. This thread isn't about defending your friends, it is about REPORTING hacking, not discussing it.

Plus, what I do, instead of posting in here and making people hate me, there is a report button to the upper right of every post.

[sims796]

He wasn't accusing her of cheating. He was accusing her of being another user, which doesn't make sense, especially with his reasoning.

If he's gonna accuse her, at least have some real proof. I don't see why you shut out facts, just to make a point. I wasn't "defending my friend", even though I mentioned it, but if you noticed, I was shutting down his awful reasoning.

[Always and Never]

And I don't see why you felt the need to do that. Again, this thread is about reporting players, not shutting down reasons. And do you have proof that she doesn't hack?

[sims796]

The problem was, he didn't have reason to call her a hacker. I won't tolerate people accusing others without proof. I don't have to prove she's not, but before claims are made, real evidence must be shown, not a nonsense post saying "look, Nightofshadow & Shadowdragon are the same people because of this irrelevant sentence!".

Frankly, I never thought you was a hacker, but people randomly accusing you can ruin a reputation. If there was some harfcore proof, I can believe you are a hacker, but since none has been shown, your word comes first.

[Samson]

OK this is just silly.

AdvancedK9 is way out of line on this whole thing, and if you've failed to recognize this, then you should not be posting.

he jumps from accusing someone who already admitting to hacking LONG AGO to accusing Nightofshadow of being the same person for no apparent reason other than the "shadow" in her username...

sillyness. be gone.

[sims796]

That's what I've been saying. I wasn't merely defending Night, but getting rid of stupid, spammish reasoning. There's no impossibility that she is a hacker, but I'll always take her word for it-unless absolutely proven otherwise. Samson said it perfectly.

Besides, it seems a bit silly to accuse someone a hacker because "we can't prove he's not", especially when we can't prove they are cheaters. What, we put someone in jail cause we can prove he didn't do it, even without proof he did?

[Gilgαmesh]

Everyone, calm down. Stop the little flames, now. This isn't the little "he did she did" stuff. This thread is to report people who used hacked pokemon in battles and nothing else, not to have furious debates over them.

[Nightofshadow]

Lol well thanks for defending me sims <3

Anyway look, Shadowdragon was reported a while ago for hacking. Thats pretty much that.

[!Weavile!]

Another hacked pokemon user is Iwillfaintyou. I posted a thread saying that I wanted to try an online battle because I jsut connected to WFC today. He volunteered to battle me. Right away I knew he had hacked pokemon because his first was an Umbreon that came out of a cherish ball!
My first was my weavile. I'm new to this site so I didn't know there was anything against illegit battling, so we continued. After some brick breaks, his umbreon fainted and sent out another pokemon in a cherish ball. I forget what it was but beat it anyway.He sent out a milotic that seemed overly powerful than possible... I'm not sure what ball it came out of but probably a cherish one. He also had a dragonite which might have been legit because it came out of a safari ball. I disconnected before I saw anymore hacks.

[sims796]

I don't think Dragonite comes out of Safari Ball. Most likely hacked.

[Iwillmakeyoufaint]

I don't think Dragonite comes out of Safari Ball. Most likely hacked.

are you an idiot? i caught my dratini in a safari ball and leveled it up.

disconnected before I saw anymore hacks.

I lost connection getting something to eat jeez. Besides I only had 2 lvl 100s and all I wanted was to try it. You had all 100 hacked ones lol.


so which lie is it make up your mind.

[Myoko-chan]

I don't think Dragonite comes out of Safari Ball. Most likely hacked.



Dratini is in the Safari Zone in Leaf Green and Fire Red bub.
Do some research on catch locations before saying things are hacked.


EDIT: Weavile, can you tell us more info about this Milotic? Like what was "overly powerful" about it?

[Iwillmakeyoufaint]

Dratini is in the Safari Zone in Leaf Green and Fire Red bub.
Do some research on catch locations before saying things are hacked.


EDIT: Weavile, can you tell us more info about this Milotic? Like what was "overly powerful" about it?

he was losing to it, so his only rational explanation was that it was hacked

[Myoko-chan]

To make the most possible explanation, can you tell me what pokemon your milotic was up against?

[sims796]

My bad, I said "I don't think", meaning not to sure. I also said probably, meaning not really accusing. Regardless, I don't think Cherish Balls are open to general pokes like Umbreon.

[Hinamori_Momo]

Cherish balls only come in the DS Event Pokemon so Iwillmakeyoufaint is an obvious hacker.

[Iwillmakeyoufaint]

Cherish balls only come in the DS Event Pokemon so Iwillmakeyoufaint is an obvious hacker.

i got my umbreon in a trade, i wont use it any more if it was hacked i wasnt sure it was an honest mistake.

edit** i released it so quit crying.

[Mike™]

i got my umbreon in a trade, i wont use it any more if it was hacked i wasnt sure it was an honest mistake.

edit** i released it so quit crying.

How the heck was Shadowdragon154 crying? He/She was stating that you were a hacker. NOT whining. It's your fault for using the Gts btw. It's risky.

[Samson]

i'm here to confirm that Iwillmakeyoufaint actually hacks his pokemon.

he battled Cema in Cema's thread. he had a Tyranitar that did not have Sandstream as its ability. in response, he used the same excuse:

got my tyranitar in a trade. didn't know it was hacked released it already.

how does someone not recognize that their tyranitar did not have sandstream? he obviously hacked for it and the rest of his pokemon. why do i conclude this? well:

1. no one would go through the trouble of hacking for a Tyranitar without its actual ability and trading it. if the person can actually hack, then they could just hack for the pokemon they wanted rather trade for them.

2. after finding out that his first set of pokemon were hacked the first time, you'd think he'd look at all his traded pokes and see whether they were hacked before battling someone again. but no, he obviously didn't especially when he used a Tyranitar without Sandstream.

3. if he actually did trade for the Tyranitar, then he could've simply seen that it didn't have Sandstream and could have not used it at all, but he did, and continued to use it in his battle.

this guy hacks and should be kept from battling people who don't know any better. he clearly is one of them... i mean really... no sandstream?

[sims796]

Second time he was mentioned. He was caught with half his team in Cherish Balls. His excuse? "I got them in a trade"! Not good enough.

[Iwillmakeyoufaint]

Second time he was mentioned. He was caught with half his team in Cherish Balls. His excuse? "I got them in a trade"! Not good enough.

what you want me to do send you a im sorry thank you card or something? i havent been playing pokemon for years on end like you guys mistakes happen. get over it and quit *****ing.

[Gilgαmesh]

what you want me to do send you a im sorry thank you card or something? i havent been playing pokemon for years on end like you guys mistakes happen. get over it and quit *****ing.

First of all, that post was completely uncalled for. You're warned for flaming. Try not to do this next time.

[!!SoUlEaTeR!!]

why does it matter anyway, hes caught in a red ball, so i was winning, if u r a good trainer and not a noob it wont matter what they caught it into...

[sims796]

The problem is, it is impossible to catch it in said red ball. Only event pokemon are in those. I don't mind if he didn't know, mistakes happen, but don't show off those mistakes on wi-fi.

[Always and Never]

The problem is, it is impossible to catch it in said red ball. Only event pokemon are in those. I don't mind if he didn't know, mistakes happen, but don't show off those mistakes on wi-fi.

But isn't your main quote "it doesn't matter what ball or location it is caught, it just matters that their stats aren't hacked."

I think it should say don't show the laziness of using an action replay on Wi-Fi. XD

[sims796]

Yeah, but those stats has been altered as well. He then eliminates all reasoning with those Cherish Balls. His Ttar didn't have Sand Stream. If your gonna hack, do it right. He got it in a trade, but still.

That last sentence you wrote got me cracking up. I said the EXACT SAME THING yesterday. Like I said, if ya do something wrong, do it right.

[Always and Never]

Or don't do it at all? That makes much more sense.

[sims796]

Well, lets not discuss this here. We can both say that neither of us hack. If they decide to mess up their game with AR, thats on them.

But regardless, let's not talk on that here, lest the mods come.

[~Mithos~]

umm D/C'ing isn't against the rules, it's uncalled for, but not against the rules. I have had a few times where I have dropped my DS and the likes and even just walking upstairs my connection can dissapear.

even if he did do it on purpose, you can't report him for it, people D/C from me all the time, even if it IS on purpose.

[Ash_Pokemaster]

I'm here to report Iwillmakeyoufaint.
He used a Garchomp caught in UltraBall, while still having Outrage, a breed move. A Garchomp can't learn Outrage by means of level up, Move Tutor, TM or any other way. The only way to get it is through breeding, which would result Garchomp being in a Pokeball.

[Samson]

I'm here to report Iwillmakeyoufaint.
He used a Garchomp caught in UltraBall, while still having Outrage, a breed move. A Garchomp can't learn Outrage by means of level up, Move Tutor, TM or any other way. The only way to get it is through breeding, which would result Garchomp being in a Pokeball.

i'm glad you payed attention to this. the guy should be blacklisted already.

[Iwillmakeyoufaint]

I'm here to report Iwillmakeyoufaint.
He used a Garchomp caught in UltraBall, while still having Outrage, a breed move. A Garchomp can't learn Outrage by means of level up, Move Tutor, TM or any other way. The only way to get it is through breeding, which would result Garchomp being in a Pokeball.

you're just mad cuz i beat your entire team without breaking a sweat. when i caught my gible it already had that. quit crying. funny how all the people that lose to me make up excuses to why they lost. lol and i didnt even beat your team with garchomp i used snorlax. some one is salty. sore losers are the worst, make your pokemon stronger and then come see me for a rematch.

[Faceless*]

you're just mad cuz i beat your entire team without breaking a sweat. when i caught my gible it already had that. quit crying. funny how all the people that lose to me make up excuses to why they lost. lol and i didnt even beat your team with garchomp i used snorlax. some one is salty. sore losers are the worst, make your pokemon stronger and then come see me for a rematch.

Haha listen to the mods wont yah? Dont Flame, and he is not angry because you "swept his team", it's only the matter you hacked your pokes, simple as that. And lol... you caught a Gible in the Wayward cave knowing the move Outrage? I laugh at that much

[Light Yagami]

I agree, Gible knowing outrage is like catching a pikachu knwing Surf. It ain't happening. And if I see that Garchomp in my tourney or any other suspicious pokes in my tourney, you'll be blacklisted.

[Iwillmakeyoufaint]

Haha listen to the mods wont yah? Dont Flame, and he is not angry because you "swept his team", it's only the matter you hacked your pokes, simple as that. And lol... you caught a Gible in the Wayward cave knowing the move Outrage? I laugh at that much

last time i checked i would know more about my own pokemon that you would. And im not flaming. These lil kids need to stop crying and pointing the finger at every one else when they lose.

I agree, Gible knowing outrage is like catching a pikachu knwing Surf. It ain't happening. And if I see that Garchomp in my tourney or any other suspicious pokes in my tourney, you'll be blacklisted.

you just compared a pokemon to a move that it can never learn to garchomp and outrage. work on your analogy skills.

[Mike™]

last time i checked i would know more about my own pokemon that you would. And im not flaming. These lil kids need to stop crying and pointing the finger at every one else when they lose.



you just compared a pokemon to a move that it can never learn to garchomp and outrage. work on your analogy skills.

You seriously act like a baby, stop it, leave this forum, or just don't use your hacked pokemon at ALL. I hope you get banned permantely soon.

[Faceless*]

you just compared a pokemon to a move that it can never learn to garchomp and outrage. work on your analogy skills.

That isnt the point, this is only the way you pick on something he mistakes on instead of defending yourself...

[Mike™]

iwillmakeyoufaint, need's to stop flaming the people he argues and stuff like that with, learn from your mistakes.

[Yoshistar64]

Oh pfft. I've had enough of this. Just play along! Apologize! You don't need to lie about these kinds of things, it's minor. But when you lie way too much it becomes something big okay? Now... just listen to us... it'll all be fine.

Garchomp can't learn Outrage through leveling up. (http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-dp/445.shtml)

[Iwillmakeyoufaint]

lol show me where im flaming. lol @ all the pre-teens getting angry.

[Faceless*]

Please tell me where I'M getting angry, and flaming is the thing we're talking about the least. We're talking about how you act like the boys who play dumb and not admit that you are really hacking. In case you have noticed, you're the one that is exactly getting angry >_>

[Mike™]

lol show me where im flaming. lol @ all the pre-teens getting angry.

=noob. Get the heck out of Pc, Dumbass. i'm sorry, but somebody has to get him out of here. Ban him, please.

[Iwillmakeyoufaint]

Please tell me where I'M getting angry, and flaming is the thing we're talking about the least. We're talking about how you act like the boys who play dumb and not admit that you are really hacking. In case you have noticed, you're the one that is exactly getting angry >_>

im far from angry, im over here laughing at you kids mad over a game. when i caught my gible it had outrage, and the funny thing is , is that i put it in for one turn and took it out- then destroyed his team with my other pokemon, hes just salty cuz he lost. Hes a sore loser- as i said before step your game up then come see me mmkay?

[Faceless*]

im far from angry, im over here laughing at you kids mad over a game. when i caught my gible it had outrage, and the funny thing is , is that i put it in for one turn and took it out- then destroyed his team with my other pokemon, hes just salty cuz he lost. Hes a sore loser- as i said before step your game up then come see me mmkay?

First off, do NOT call us kids, as you say your far from angry, we're definitly far from being kids

Second, it doesnt matter HOW you won the battle in any ways, it only matters if the Pokemon is indeed hacked, and in this case, is surely is.

and if your saying sore loser... define it

[Mike™]

im far from angry, im over here laughing at you kids mad over a game. when i caught my gible it had outrage, and the funny thing is , is that i put it in for one turn and took it out- then destroyed his team with my other pokemon, hes just salty cuz he lost. Hes a sore loser- as i said before step your game up then come see me mmkay?

[SYou know why it had Outrage? It is becuase YOU HACKED IT WITH AN AR/ACTION REPLAY.IZE="1"][/SIZE]

[Myoko-chan]

lol show me where im flaming. lol @ all the pre-teens getting angry.
Okie doke, I'll show you.

what you want me to do send you a im sorry thank you card or something? i havent been playing pokemon for years on end like you guys mistakes happen. get over it and quit *****ing.


Besides, you've already been warned for it.:P

[Iwillmakeyoufaint]

First off, do NOT call us kids, as you say your far from angry, we're definitly far from being kids

Second, it doesnt matter HOW you won the battle in any ways, it only matters if the Pokemon is indeed hacked, and in this case, is surely is.



ok you aren't a kid you're almost an adult playing games designed for kids which is far worse. Didn't i beat you before too? U mad?

and if your saying sore loser... define it

sore loser- Itachi Uchiha, and fox hound.

Okie doke, I'll show you.




Besides, you've already been warned for it.:P

wow you little kids find new and more creative ways for failing each and every time, that was from a different situation not the current one.

[Mike™]

ok you aren't a kid you're almost an adult playing games designed for kids which is far worse. Didn't i beat you before too? U mad?


sore loser- Itachi Uchiha, and fox hound.

wow you little kids find new and more creative ways for failing each and every time, that was from a different situation not the current one.

Wow. you're a complete idiot and noob, Iwillmakeyoufaint. Loser.

[Faceless*]

ok you aren't a kid you're almost an adult playing games designed for kids which is far worse. Didn't i beat you before too? U mad?


sore loser- Itachi Uchiha, and fox hound.



wow you little kids find new and more creative ways for failing each and every time, that was from a different situation not the current one.

Bold : This is absurd AND shameful to see... if you must say this, there is no way in joining the Pokecommunity period. And as for you have ever beatne me, I doubt you will even get pass 2 of my pokes. Improve your memory

Underlined : Use a dictionary, not your head mr. hacker

Red : It was in the same situtaion moron, improve your memory... AGAIN

[Warheart]

im far from angry, im over here laughing at you kids mad over a game. when i caught my gible it had outrage, and the funny thing is , is that i put it in for one turn and took it out- then destroyed his team with my other pokemon, hes just salty cuz he lost. Hes a sore loser- as i said before step your game up then come see me mmkay?

Yeah, I know. Al these little pre-teens suck huh? I mean, you're obviosly way too hardcore to be playing against any of them, so why don't you just leave? Like..Now T.T

Dude, drop it. Gible Can't learn Outrage withought breeding. You suck at lying, and have been caught on several other occasions of having "been traded" hacked pokemon. Give up, no one believes you. Maybe if you could actually just admit to hacking, people wouldn't be on your ass like they are now.

[Shiny Umbreon]

Iwillmakeyoufaint, please stop disrespecting other members. You've been telling them they don't know how to lose when you're the one using hacked Pokémon and you are aware of it. Rather than apologizing, you give impossible excuses. It's totally obvious that a Machamp in an Ultra Ball can't have Outrage, but you admit it has, which means you admit it's hacked. Using hacked Pokémon and apologizing is not so bad as not accepting you're mistakes, lying and accusing others of being sore losers. You may think rules shouldn't exist, but, if they do, you should follow them. If you don't like how rules are here and you prefer to cheat, I suggest you didn't play at all. You have been warned (again) now.

[Gilgαmesh]

For crap's sake. Stop the freaking arguing, people. It's seriously immature and highly prohibited.


All these posts are now being deleted.

Now please everyone, stay on topic.

The next argument that happens, everyone that participated in it is going to get a warning. It's life, people. Play the better man and learn not to take part in stuff that doesn't deserve any attention whatsoever. Just report it.

[Richard Lynch]

Ummm... I think Shiny Umbreon might have taken care of things, Hoshiko, so your post was slightly redundant.

Either way, I just battled Iwillmakeyoufaint and can say without a fraction of a doubt that his Pokemon are not only hacked, but their stats are hacked too. No Tyranitar can take 40-% damage from ANY kind of Earthquake (and do more than 60% damage to a Skarmory with a Stone Edge without a critical hit!).

And it took Meteor Mash from Metagross (reminder: STABed, 100 Base, 405 Attack) 3 turns to KO a Snorlax. That's just not normal. Ice Beam from Claydol did around 40% to Salamence (when it should do around 60-70%), and Garchomp absorbed Dark Pulse like it was candy.

Not to Mention Aerodactyl, who had the most HP I've ever seen an Aerodactyl have (this Aero's HP took longer to decrease than a friggen Blissey's HP), and a STABed Dark Pulse shaved off nearly 15%. Something ain't right here.

[Iwillmakeyoufaint]

what are you talking about i didn't even battle you. now ppl are just making things up.


People coming in this thread with 0 proof of anything they are talking about.

[Mike™]

what are you talking about i didn't even battle you. now ppl are just making things up.


People coming in this thread with 0 proof of anything they are talking about.

And where exactly is your proof, That proves you're not a Hacker?

[Richard Lynch]

what are you talking about i didn't even battle you. now ppl are just making things up.


People coming in this thread with 0 proof of anything they are talking about.

Are you kidding me? Do you have anterograde amnesia or something?

No, no, you're right, I made all those things up for kicks.

Like I said in the PM, if you're truly innocent, you wouldn't mind a stat check. PM me whenever you're ready to go into the trade screen, and then we'll have definitive proof.

[Nightofshadow]

what are you talking about i didn't even battle you. now ppl are just making things up.


People coming in this thread with 0 proof of anything they are talking about.

Stat checking your pokemon is rather easy. Though i already know the outcome of that but i think that richard should check your pokemon.

[Always and Never]

It's just a waste of time. It's obvious he hacked, leave it at that until he is punished.

[!!SoUlEaTeR!!]

J_Zero was using a Arcues against me and kingofClubs...he used 3 Raquaza 2 raikou and 1 Ghost Arceus against me..i won of course with my 400spatk+chioce spec+downlown porygon-Z..ice beamed all his pokemon...But i dont want noone to lose like KingofCLub lost bc he is not playing fair with a Arceus nor is he following rules...

[FoxHound]

Iwillmakeyoufaint is clearly posting BS everyware so everyone simply, STOP TALKING TO HIM, ignore him thats what i did, he requested a battle and i knew he hacked so i disregarded the pm, and i'm apparently a sore loser for that, dont battle him, don't listen to him and he'll soon fade away from PC

[Myoko-chan]

J_Zero was using a Arcues against me and kingofClubs...he used 3 Raquaza 2 raikou and 1 Ghost Arceus against me..i won of course with my 400spatk+chioce spec+downlown porygon-Z..ice beamed all his pokemon...But i dont want noone to lose like KingofCLub lost bc he is not playing fair with a Arceus nor is he following rules...

It's impossible to have Arceus without AR, so this should be dealt with quickly..

[!!SoUlEaTeR!!]

thank you...at least someone cares...thanks Angel

[Iwillmakeyoufaint]

Stat checking your pokemon is rather easy. Though i already know the outcome of that but i think that richard should check your pokemon.

who is he to check my team? I never battled him anyway.

Iwillmakeyoufaint is clearly posting BS everyware so everyone simply, STOP TALKING TO HIM, ignore him thats what i did, he requested a battle and i knew he hacked so i disregarded the pm, and i'm apparently a sore loser for that, dont battle him, don't listen to him and he'll soon fade away from PC

yeah give me the "silent treatment" lol kids.

[Gilgαmesh]

who is he to check my team? I never battled him anyway.



yeah give me the "silent treatment" lol kids.

Stop the little flaming here. That's it. Anyone, And I mean anyone who spams, or tries to start a flame war, WILL get a warning.

[Nightofshadow]

I just want to point out that warnings dont really do anything, Warning someone over the internet has what kind of effect on them exactly? Sorry to say, but i think threatening with warnings isnt really a threat =\.

[Mike™]

I'm seriously sick and tired of people accusing me of hacking just becuase I caught it in a DARN MASTERBALL!! That doesn't mean i'm a hacker. Hacking moves and stats mean's you're a hacker. He's even telling me iv hack, and he's deafeating me?

[PsyDragon Trainer]

Torterra defender is a hacker. He used a Shiny Deoxys in a Cherish Ball. I 5-0'ed him anyway, lol. If he didn't crit I'd had 6-0'ed him xD.

[Torterra defender]

i didnt know it was hacked. i got it from a friend i promise not to use it again ok and if it was hacked there is no way he couldve beaten it so easily which means his pokemon are haked

[Faceless*]

i didnt know it was hacked. i got it from a friend i promise not to use it again ok and if it was hacked there is no way he couldve beaten it so easily which means his pokemon are haked

It doesnt even matter dude, it is against the rules to play with ubers, AND dead obvious it is hacked lol

[Haruki Hanai]

There aren't specific rules prohibiting playing with "ubers". That's only a stupid "competitive battling" guideline people take to heart too seriously.

As for hacked Pokémon usage, the best resolution is that Torterra defender not use the Pokémon in any further battles. Should he do so, only then will action be taken. That's the final word from me.

Arbitration closed.