View Full Version : whos stronger...diagla vs palkia
rishi 20
June 28th, 2007, 03:16 PM
i would go with diagla. can they both fly.
~Misty~
June 28th, 2007, 04:03 PM
Oh yay! Another Dialga Vs. Palkia Thread and endless flamers defending their versions Pokemon... JK.
But I don't really know, I think They are both good, it depends on how the trainer raises 'em.
-Jirachi-
June 28th, 2007, 04:03 PM
Well for that we would have to look at both Dialga's and Palkia's Types, Nature Stats and moves. Now Dialga is a Steel/Dragon while Palkia is a Water/Dragon. Both are pretty equal on the element defensive due to the fact that Palkia's water moves are not very effective neither are Dialga's steel moves yet both pokemons Dragon moves are super effective.
Now here come the Nature Stats.
Dialga's best stat type is:
HP:404
Attack:372
Defense:372
Sp. Attack:438
Sp. Defense:328
Speed:306
Palkia's best stat type is:
HP:384
Attack:372
Defense:328
Sp. Attack:438
Sp. Defense:372
Speed:328
So we can see that Dialga has better HP and Defense while Palkia has better Special Defense and speed.
Up to now both Dialga and Palkia are looking pretty equally matched but if we look at each pokemons strongest move set they could possibly have against each other it could decide who may just win the fight.
Possible Dialga Moveset:
Roar of Time
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Attack Power: 150
Accuracy: 90
PP: 5
Type: Dragon
Dragon Pulse
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Attack Power: 90
Accuracy: 100
PP: 10
Type: Dragon
Draco Meteor
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Attack Power: 140
Accuracy: 90
PP: 5
Type: Dragon
Flash Cannon
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Attack Power: 80
Accuracy: 100
PP: 10
Type: Steel
Possible Palkia Moveset:
Spacial Rend
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Attack Power: 100
Accuracy: 95
PP: 5
Type: Dragon
Fire Blast
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Attack Power: 120
Accuracy: 85
PP: 5
Type: Fire
Flamethrower:
-------------
Attack Power: 90
Accuracy: 100
PP: 15
Type: Fire
Draco Meteor
------------
Attack Power: 140
Accuracy: 90
PP: 5
Type: Dragon
(NOTE: Dialga's moveset is customized to take out Palkia as is Palkia's to Dialga.)
Right so looking at the movesets Dialga has some really high powered moves his most powerful being Roar of Time holding a staggering 150 Attack Power, Whereas Palkia has a move set designed to work on Dialga's Steel to Fire weakness and with Fire Blast at hand with 120 Attack Power and a chance to burn could put Palkia down quickly.
In the terms of a battle Palkia would go first unless Dialga was holding a item which increased his speed (Is there such a item?) In which case Palkia could possibly win, however if Dialga went first he would more likely KO Palkia.
Or even if Palkia went first nine times out of ten one hit from Dialga's Roar of Time is enough to kill any dragon type pokemon outright so in conclusion i believe that Dialga would win overall
(Sorry for the mass essay :P)
wakachamo
June 28th, 2007, 04:27 PM
^Do note, however, that Roar of Time takes on time to recharge, and Spacial Rend doesn't.
And I'll just move this to Strategies & Movesets.
Moved~
rishi 20
June 28th, 2007, 05:14 PM
i think diagla looks better
Punishment
June 28th, 2007, 05:22 PM
Dialga is stronger then Palkia physically but base stat distribution wise Palkia outranks Dialga.
Always and Never
June 28th, 2007, 05:31 PM
Looks? Come on you can do better than that. There's a bunch of competitions where each of them win...
Appearance:
Dialga. I mean who doesn't like spikey steel stuff?
Call:
Palkia. Sounds like a real dragon except at the end.
Size and Weight:
Dialga totally has Palkia beat. 17'09" vs. 13'09" and 1505.8 lbs. vs. 740.8 lbs. Dialga owns in that.
Pokedex description:
In my opinion, controlling space kills over controlling time. If you distort space, there is no reason to distort time. Palkia wins.
Types:
Dialga has a brand new type combination. Steel and Dragon. Killing it's two major weaknesses, Fire and Dragon.
Palkia, on the other hand is Water and Dragon. Kills all Ice weaknesses. Dialga wins on that one.
Rarity:
In real life, Diamonds are worth more than Pearls. Dialga's bigger so you also own the giant diamond that sits on its chest plate, and if you have Palkia, you have a puny pearl. Dialga wins.
General Living:
Dialga doesn't have wings, it has to walk unlike Palkia who flies freely. Dialga stand on all fours, leaving it open to aerial attacks, Palkia stands on two legs, leaving it open for attack from behind. Dialga's diamond is in a bad place, one Giga Impact and that thing would be shattered. Palkia's has full protection laying on its shoulder.
Palkia wins on that one.
So that's my analization. In my opinion, use Dialga. He won one more category than Palkia xD
Vainz
June 28th, 2007, 05:45 PM
First of all, it is way better to control time. You could just pause time and physically alter space. I think Dialga needs to win the Pokedex description xXscytherXx. Roar of Time is God. Besides, Dailga has resistances to:
normal
Water
Electric
Grass
Poison
Flying
Psychic
Bug
Rock
Ghost
Dark
Steel
Plus, nothing can shadder daimonds
lol
Dailga wins
Punishment
June 28th, 2007, 05:48 PM
Well time is a man made object believe it or not. It is a concept devoloped by humans to keep on track.
Space on the other hand isn't so Palkia wins.
Sephanie Liana
June 28th, 2007, 05:51 PM
First of all, it is way better to control time. You could just pause time and physically alter space. I think Dialga needs to win the Pokedex description xXscytherXx. Roar of Time is God. Besides, Dailga has resistances to:
normal
Water
Electric
Grass
Poison
Flying
Psychic
Bug
Rock
Ghost
Dark
Steel
Plus, nothing can shadder daimonds
lol
Dailga wins
Nothing but a diamond can cut another diamond. Shattering a diamond, though, is a completely different story.
Edit- lawl. I actually agree, though. I have Pearl, but Dialga seems way more awesome.
Punishment
June 28th, 2007, 05:53 PM
Yeah if we launched Dialga into the sun I dont think it will look very pretty.
rishi 20
June 28th, 2007, 06:08 PM
so im gussen most pepps here have diamond
Vainz
June 28th, 2007, 06:25 PM
First, let me start by saying that this is the funniest thread i have seen yet. I guess i have to take back the Daimond no shattering comment. The only thing i was trying to say was that a Giga Impact could not shattter a daimond. Yes i do have daimond, but if i had Pearl, i would still say Dailga is better.
Punishment
June 28th, 2007, 06:29 PM
Ohh pooey Arceus would kick both thier behinds. On the other hand they are obth nearly equal. It all depdns on the trainer I suppose and how you train them.
Portujesus
June 28th, 2007, 06:45 PM
Some moderator should move this to "Useless Noob Discussions".
Paranoia
June 28th, 2007, 08:57 PM
Possible Palkia Moveset:
Spacial Rend
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Attack Power: 100
Accuracy: 95
PP: 5
Type: Dragon
Fire Blast
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Attack Power: 120
Accuracy: 85
PP: 5
Type: Fire
Flamethrower:
-------------
Attack Power: 90
Accuracy: 100
PP: 15
Type: Fire
Draco Meteor
------------
Attack Power: 140
Accuracy: 90
PP: 5
Type: Dragon
The only reason your Palkia would loose is because your moveset = Fail
Types:
Dialga has a brand new type combination. Steel and Dragon. Killing it's two major weaknesses, Fire and Dragon.
Palkia, on the other hand is Water and Dragon. Kills all Ice weaknesses. Dialga wins on that one.
What about Dialga's fighting weakness? *cough* Aura Sphere (Can't Miss) *cough*
But yeah, the only reason dialga wins, is because some people don't know how to battle properly.
Avolition
June 28th, 2007, 09:06 PM
Is Fighting Dialga's only weakness? What about Ground?
sims796
June 28th, 2007, 09:35 PM
Well time is a man made object believe it or not. It is a concept devoloped by humans to keep on track.
Space on the other hand isn't so Palkia wins.
Time isn't a manmade object. Time always existed before we came along. When the day turns into night, year passes year, thats time. We just found a way to measure it.
Yes, Dialgia is weak against ground.
Vainz
June 28th, 2007, 10:01 PM
Ask yourself this question. Would you rather control space or time? I want a dinosaur, so, Dailga wins.
by the way, this is pretty stupid
wolfie1177
June 28th, 2007, 11:36 PM
omg DIALGA! no question- he looks cooler and is less vulnerable imo than palkia
sims796
June 28th, 2007, 11:52 PM
Ask yourself this question. Would you rather control space or time? I want a dinosaur, so, Dailga wins.
by the way, this is pretty stupid
While this is stupid, this is alot of fun.:D
Paranoia
June 29th, 2007, 03:17 AM
Time isn't a manmade object. Time always existed before we came along. When the day turns into night, year passes year, thats time. We just found a way to measure it.
Yes, Dialgia is weak against ground.
Ahahaha just coz this thread = Fail I will post my opinion, Time is a man made idea, the reason there is day and night is because the earth moves, and spins, so light can't reach it, that isn't time, it's the natural order of things!
And another reason time was created, is because there isn't exactly 24 hours in a day, its 23.56 or something, its not exact, that's why there are leap years and daylight savings.
Also, Dialga looks like a retarded horse, I pfft at his so called tail, it ain't as cool as Palkia's
Always and Never
June 29th, 2007, 03:34 AM
Well hink of it like this. Hourglasses keep track of time, but what's natural about them is gravity.
Palkia has control of all forces, volume, mass, weight, gravity, aything. If it distorts space, it can distort anything
Of course, Dialga could do a rollout and stab it with its butt-spine thing. And Diamonds are shatterable. And a Giga Impact could totally break off a piece.
Dialga's call sounds like a little seagull on the beach.
Palkia's sounds lie death. I take bak my decision...
Palkia wins.
Short Range
June 29th, 2007, 04:15 AM
Think about physical strength measuring now. What about is they were both a Rattata at the same level? Who would win then?
Always and Never
June 29th, 2007, 04:29 AM
A rattata? How is that relevant to anything?
okothnuva
June 29th, 2007, 04:38 AM
Pink > Blue
Therefore, Palkia > Dialga
sims796
June 29th, 2007, 04:43 AM
Ahahaha just coz this thread = Fail I will post my opinion, Time is a man made idea, the reason there is day and night is because the earth moves, and spins, so light can't reach it, that isn't time, it's the natural order of things!
And another reason time was created, is because there isn't exactly 24 hours in a day, its 23.56 or something, its not exact, that's why there are leap years and daylight savings.
Also, Dialga looks like a retarded horse, I pfft at his so called tail, it ain't as cool as Palkia's
What about things aging and getting older? The Earth spinning may be a natural order, but time measures the, um, time it would take for the Earth to rotate. Whether it rotates fast or slow, it still happens according to a set pace.
And stop saying time is a manmade idea. Whether we like it or not, the concept is still there. If thats the case, we could name it whatever we want, the concept of things passing is still there.
Fail, pfft. He may look like a drugged horse, but at least he's not a hunch-back. And pearls are way more fragile, and less valuable. Oh yeah. I went there. Come get me.
Respect your opinion, though.
Phanima
June 29th, 2007, 05:14 AM
Many of the posts have deterred away from the actual topic as to which Pokemon is stronger, Dialga or Palkia.
Other ideas such as the definition of time, pink verses blue, diamonds are more valuable than pearls, and Dialga looking like a drugged horse while Palkia resembles a physique similar to a hunchback, are all irrelevant in terms of the thread's topic.
In respect to the game, -Jirachi- has already established their recommended movesets and a summation on a battle between the two. Factors including proper training with EV's and IV's also influence how the battle would be concluded, with whether Dialga or Palkia being the more strong. To test this, battles have to be conducted in a sample period and then the results can be averaged to see who would be "stronger".
However, I doubt anyone would be willing to properly train each Pokemon for a battle against one another repeatedly, efficiently. So, as far as this thread goes, -Jirachi-'s assumptions should be enough. Personal preference has no relevance to the topic.
Paranoia
June 29th, 2007, 06:01 AM
What about things aging and getting older? The Earth spinning may be a natural order, but time measures the, um, time it would take for the Earth to rotate. Whether it rotates fast or slow, it still happens according to a set pace.
And stop saying time is a manmade idea. Whether we like it or not, the concept is still there. If thats the case, we could name it whatever we want, the concept of things passing is still there.
Fail, pfft. He may look like a drugged horse, but at least he's not a hunch-back. And pearls are way more fragile, and less valuable. Oh yeah. I went there. Come get me.
Respect your opinion, though.
Yeah it happens, BUT Humans made up the idea of time to measure it, it isn't there as everything is theoretical, we can't prove anything in the world, unless we make it, take black holes for an example, it was theorized that they occur after a certain type of star dies, yet we have never seen a black hole (Not that you can as even light can't escape it's gravity strength) does that mean they still exist even though we haven't seen them, No, they might not exist, so time doesn't exist until we see it, and even you say it yourself, time is a concept, it wouldn't exist if we didn't exist, because we made it up, yet the planets would still keep spinning, but theoretically, they wouldn't exist because we don't exist to see them spin, hehe.
Yes, the earth does rotate, but, did you know that the earth is slowly tilting, and is slightly changing it's orbit, not by much mind you, (Although I forgot where I read that)
I respect your opinion aswell, but I can still argue (Mwahahaha)
Well, I want to battle someone's Dialga, against my Palkia, One VS one match, we'll see who wins, mwahaha
Dialga is a retarded horse, don't deny the truth...
sims796
June 29th, 2007, 06:50 AM
Oh Phanima, lighten up. I wasn't the only one who said dumb things. We argued which is stronger, so were having a bit of fun with the topic. No one can truly decide which are stronger. They both have great movesets, which, while having nothing to do with the plot of the game, counters each other. Its all a matter of opinion.
Also, when people talk about version exclusives, there will always be talk that makes no sense, all in the name of what we believe is best, like me & Paranoia, so like I said, lighten up.
PS: Paranoia, according to Wikipedia, both time AND space are just matter of human perspective.
Paranoia
June 29th, 2007, 07:31 AM
In respect to the game, -Jirachi- has already established their recommended movesets and a summation on a battle between the two. Factors including proper training with EV's and IV's also influence how the battle would be concluded, with whether Dialga or Palkia being the more strong. To test this, battles have to be conducted in a sample period and then the results can be averaged to see who would be "stronger".
However, I doubt anyone would be willing to properly train each Pokemon for a battle against one another repeatedly, efficiently. So, as far as this thread goes, -Jirachi-'s assumptions should be enough. Personal preference has no relevance to the topic.
-Jirachi-'s movesets were the most un-effective movesets ever created for Dialga and Palkia.
And I have EV trained mine, I also reset for good IVs, and a good nature, so my Palkia is tank, I still want to vs someone's Dialga with it.
Ahh, I didn't know space was, lol, that's crazy, I'm going to have to read more on this "space" hehe xD!!
Archer
June 29th, 2007, 07:58 AM
first of all, dialga is weak against ground (earth pwr) and fighting (aura sphere). palkia is weak against dragon (roar of time)only. Palkia has higher speed, so if dialga can survive and earthpwr/aurasphere, a roar of time is sure to smash palkia afterwards.
NOTE: Dialga is steel/dragon. steel resists dragon so it is neutral.
I prefer Dialga. not because i have diamond, but i got diamond cause i liked dialga.
beauty. proletariat
June 29th, 2007, 08:29 AM
Stupid thread...
But they are equal. Weakness wise, one has 1 more weakness than the other... Not that much difference.
If you look at Palkia, it can PWN dialga... But if you look at Dialga, it can do the same to Palkia. The only reason i see that they can be compared to another is when using them in a team, and you need to pick one more member, and you're stuck on them two...
Otherwise... DW, both are good. Both are obtainable quite easily.
Phanima
June 29th, 2007, 09:27 AM
Oh Phanima, lighten up. I wasn't the only one who said dumb things. We argued which is stronger, so were having a bit of fun with the topic. No one can truly decide which are stronger. They both have great movesets, which, while having nothing to do with the plot of the game, counters each other. Its all a matter of opinion.
Also, when people talk about version exclusives, there will always be talk that makes no sense, all in the name of what we believe is best, like me & Paranoia, so like I said, lighten up.
PS: Paranoia, according to Wikipedia, both time AND space are just matter of human perspective.
That's fine to have fun and everything, but some of the posts are bordering on the edge of spamming, and unfortunately, I don't like spamming. Of course, my opinion counts for minimal in the eyes of others on this forum, but like you, I'm entitled to just that, my own opinion. And that's what I stated.
Sure, go ahead and talk about the differences of the versions and continue arguing about which is better for whatever reasons, but unfortunately, I have a personal problem that makes me address the topic at hand when I post, to help minimise how spam-ish my posts come across to be.
Also, I'm glad you have a light-hearted nature, but telling me to lighten up won't do any good. There are a few people in this world, believe it or not, that are serious, and others that aren't. I'm one of the more serious types, so "lightening up" isn't exactly something I can do easily. Of course, that means I'm not allowed to be myself, right?
You can stay here and continue arguing.
I also apologise for contradicting myself, as this post is completely off topic and can be considered as spam, something that I said I try to avoid when posting. I took it too personally.
sims796
June 29th, 2007, 01:48 PM
Being serious is fine enough. We all get that. But notice that more than half the forum should be considered "spammish". This thread doesn't really belong in Stategies & Movesets, in my opinoin. We left that topic, two, three dozen post ago. Don't 'lighten up' if you don't want to. Be serious all you like. But this forum is full of, well, light-hearted people believe it or not . So be serious, just comprimise enough for this particular forum, just like we gotta be serious enough to avoid spamming. And thank you sooo much for the lesson on the types of people in the world.
But, like I said, we all love our own version exclusives, so sorry if it seems like spamming in your eyes (except for that rattata post-that was spam).
And yes, I will keep arguing. Thanks for your permission.
Now, Dialgia & Palkia, as I said, counters each other quite nicely. Dialga has one more weakness, but resistant to poison, which, in my opinion, complements each other, while Palkia has one less weakness, butis weak to a few of Dialgia's moves. There stats are the same, trading some off for another, but they add up for the same total. Sorry, Phanamia, but no one cares enough about who is stronger to go about your experiment. Don't get me wrong, it is a great way to see once and for all, but no one, as you said, will take the time to go about and try it out. But it is a great idea. This isn't sarcasm.
Apathetic_Yen
June 29th, 2007, 09:26 PM
Although I own Diamond, I'd say Palkia wins. His type is better and his stats go better with the moves he goes best with. I like Dialga better though.
sims796
June 29th, 2007, 09:29 PM
Really? I always liked the uniqueness-pardon my spelling-of Steel/Dragon, but Water/Dragon works for Kingdra, so hey.
wakachamo
June 29th, 2007, 09:35 PM
Some moderator should move this to "Useless Noob Discussions".
And you need to start respecting people.
Waffle-San
June 29th, 2007, 09:43 PM
omg DIALGA! no question- he looks cooler and is less vulnerable imo than palkia
Dialga, weaknesses:Ice, Ground and Fighting
Palkia, weaknesses: Dragon
of course poison won't effect Dialga and theres probably more moves that are not very effective against Dialga.
I like Plakia's move pool better because it may lack the super powerful moves but It learns more versatile and more accurate moves.
Someone mentioned using Fire Blast on Dialga, it'd just be normal effective because fire is not very effective on Dragon.
if it comes down to which ones better (coming from someone who owns Pearl) I'll have to say they're pretty even but I like Diamond's better than Pearl and Ramparados better than Bastiodon.
Avolition
June 29th, 2007, 09:44 PM
No, Ice is weak to steel, so it would be neutral to both.
Waffle-San
June 29th, 2007, 10:13 PM
No, Ice is weak to steel, so it would be neutral to both.
O really, I always thought ice is normal effective on steel, ussually I know the type chart pretty well, dang.
Archer
July 1st, 2007, 06:32 AM
Dialga has 11 resistances, palkia has three. Firstly, look at palkias attack - 120 - and EQ has no stab. look at dialgas defence and HP - 120 and 100 respectively. i doubt palkias EQ would OHKO dialga and with the right EVs and nature, dialga could out run palkia, ten points is not a huge difference in base stats for speed. With the Orbs, dialga gets a bonus to its super effective attack, palkia doesnt.
Smarties-chan
July 1st, 2007, 07:35 AM
You guys are taking the wrong approach here. You can't determine which Pokémon is better by just looking which one would win in battle. That's just ridiculous. The correct way to do things would be to list the Pokémon they counter in their own metagame, ubers and how easy they're to switch in on things.
Dialga can...
Safely switch in on Mewtwo as long as it doesn't carry a Fighting type move, (and Fighting type moves aren't that common in Uber because most things there resist those. They're mostly for Blissey countering) laughs at the most common Lugia moves because it's immune to Toxic, only takes normal damage from Ice Beam (which won't hurt Dialga much) and resists Aeroblast. (though it isn't that common on Lugia) Dialga could also cripple the oh-so common Swords Dance Arceus with Thunder Wave if they're switched in on the same time and get at least one hit on it as well. Darkrai won't be able to do much damage to Dialga assuming you play with Sleep Clause and your opponent has already put one of your Pokémon to sleep. Dialga also does fairly well against Palkia even though I'm pretty sure Palkia would beat it. At least Dialga will put a huge dent in Palkia with Draco Meteor or Dragon Pulse. (preferably Draco Meteor) Who knows, maybe it'll even be a one-hit-KO if you have enough Sp.Attack EVs.
Now for Palkia:
Palkia laughs at Kyogre because Surf will have a 0.25x damage modifier on it, Thunder will only deal normal damage and so will Ice Beam. Palkia will most likely be able to do huge damage to Kyogre before it gets enough Calm Minds to do any significant damage to Kyogre, too. Deoxys will most likely not OHKO Palkia, but Palkia will easily defeat it with any damaging move it has. Palkia also defeat Ho-oh rather easily and even with its STAB removed from Surf, it'll still do good damage to Groudon thanks to Lustrous Orb.
So I'd say Palkia and Dialga stand on pretty equal grounds. Both have their strengths and weaknesses. Dialga's signature move sucks, though, whereas Palkia's owns.
Archer
July 1st, 2007, 09:04 AM
What about how they fare ingame. (elite 4+1)
Dialga - Bug-Owns with ancientpower and resists all but heracross.
-------- Ground- Useless here.
-------- Fire - Normal damage, kills with ancientpower/earth power
-------- Psychic - Resists
-------- Cynthia - resist spiritomb and roserade
Palkia - Bug- Normal but handles heracross
-------- Ground - Beats half of them.
-------- Fire - Resists most
-------- Psychic - Average
-------- Cynthia - Useless
Fairly even. Dialga outdoes palkia slightly here.
Smarties-chan
July 1st, 2007, 09:19 AM
What about how they fare ingame. (elite 4+1)
Dialga - Bug-Owns with ancientpower and resists all but heracross.
-------- Ground- Useless here.
-------- Fire - Normal damage, kills with ancientpower/earth power
-------- Psychic - Resists
-------- Cynthia - resist spiritomb and roserade
Palkia - Bug- Normal but handles heracross
-------- Ground - Beats half of them.
-------- Fire - Resists most
-------- Psychic - Average
-------- Cynthia - Useless
Fairly even. Dialga outdoes palkia slightly here.
In-game stuff has nothing to do with strategy and since this is the GB Strategies and movesets, I see no point in comparing them by how well they do in the elite four. Even a team of 6 Bidoof could beat the e4. When measuring a Pokémon strength I always take a competitive point of view sinc in-game it doesn't matter what you use.
Archer
July 1st, 2007, 09:31 AM
@replay man-That was innapropriate, pointless SPAM. Delete that please.
replay_man
July 1st, 2007, 09:39 AM
Aww... ALright. Just my opinion, not spam haha. it's gone though. =/
peabobo's sexy legs
July 1st, 2007, 12:57 PM
i would go with diagla. can they both fly.
Uh... I hate this thread.
Dialga's Roar of Time sucks.
Also, Dialga is weak to Ground and Fighting, while Palkia is only weak to Dragon (which it is also strong against).
Space > Time
Diamonds look like crap.
Pearls are sexy.
Distribution of stats, Palkia > Dialga
Namewise, Palkia >>>>>> Dialga
And Water > Steel
rishi 20
July 1st, 2007, 01:12 PM
so do all of u guys thinks palkia looks better
Smarties-chan
July 1st, 2007, 01:26 PM
Uh... I hate this thread.
Dialga's Roar of Time sucks.
Also, Dialga is weak to Ground and Fighting, while Palkia is only weak to Dragon (which it is also strong against).
Space > Time
Diamonds look like crap.
Pearls are sexy.
Distribution of stats, Palkia > Dialga
Namewise, Palkia >>>>>> Dialga
And Water > Steel
Palkia isn't better than Dialga. They're equal. They both counter different Pokémon. Yes, palkia does have a better signature move, but Dialga is immune to Toxic, which is a huge advantage. And no one cares a crap about if pearls are sexier than diamonds because that doesn't affect the Pokémon in any freakin' way. <.<
Nooby McNooberson
July 1st, 2007, 11:59 PM
Palkia > Dialga
Better moveset and less weaknesses.
Dialga is weak to Ground (Earthquake anyone?) and Fighting (Close Combat anyone?)
Palkia is only weak against Dragon, and there are few Dragons that Palkia can't outrun.
Spacial Rend > Roar of Time (Battle wise, although I admit RoT looks WAY better)
The only thing Dialga has is that he's immune to Poison, and resistant to like 10 types. Palkia is only resistance to 3. But Palkia is a sweeper, and Dialga is a Tank. Sweepers > Tanks!
:P
Who cares, use em both, or better yet, use Mewtwo!
Mewtwo > Both of em!
sims796
July 2nd, 2007, 12:17 AM
Not all likes sweepers over tanks.
Ethereal
July 2nd, 2007, 05:31 AM
Dialga (obviously) uses Roar of Time.
Palkia uses Endure (activates Petaya Berry).
...gets 2 attacks before Dialga can move...
...battle ends.
Yes it's tailored, but all of these 'battles' are anyways. At least this is a new tailored battle.
And as for general battling... Palkia has a single weakness, Dragon. Seriously, that's a relatively rare one - not like Dialga's common Fighting and Ground weaknesses. Ok, so D. can't be poisoned... yahoo, it still gets ripped open by all those Close Combats, Brick Breaks and Earthquakes which Palkia can certainly absorb alot better.
As for looks... buy PBR... watch Palkia spread its wings and move. How can you still say Dialga 'looks' better.
...and them's my two cents.
Smarties-chan
July 2nd, 2007, 07:19 AM
Dialga (obviously) uses Roar of Time.
Palkia uses Endure (activates Petaya Berry).
...gets 2 attacks before Dialga can move...
...battle ends.
Yes it's tailored, but all of these 'battles' are anyways. At least this is a new tailored battle.
And as for general battling... Palkia has a single weakness, Dragon. Seriously, that's a relatively rare one - not like Dialga's common Fighting and Ground weaknesses. Ok, so D. can't be poisoned... yahoo, it still gets ripped open by all those Close Combats, Brick Breaks and Earthquakes which Palkia can certainly absorb alot better.
As for looks... buy PBR... watch Palkia spread its wings and move. How can you still say Dialga 'looks' better.
...and them's my two cents.
Except that no good player would use Roar of Time and would instead use Draco Meteor (which, I'm pretty sure, can 2-hit KO Palkia.) or Dragon Pulse and as I already said, putting two Pokémon in a battle against each other is not a way to determine which one is better. -.- And of course every Pokémon has a counter and Dialga's counter is a strong physical sweeper with Earthquake/Close Combat. However, Dialga is much easier to switch in on things, while fragile physical sweepers don't like switching in on Dialga. Besides, the only Pokémon in Ubers that really use Earthquake or a Fighting move are Deoxys, Groudon, Arceus and Ho-oh. Sure Palkia also carries Earth Power, but a STABed, Adamant Orbed Draco Meteor from Dialga says hi.
sims796
July 2nd, 2007, 02:58 PM
Didn't I say that they could counter each other quite nicely?
Besides, a battle will not be decided as simply as Ethereal said. A good trainer would have a MUCH better moveset, and won't fall into such an obvious trap.
Smarties-kun is right, a SINGLE battle is not enough to prove who is stronger. But rather, who would be more useful in a team. As he said, they both have their counters.
And on a personal note, I still think Dialga looks better. I always liked four-legged animals.