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mrmo1115
July 9th, 2007, 05:29 AM
Is it just me, or does Mew have no connection between the first movie and Lucario and the Mystery of Mew... It seems to me that they didn't realize that "Legendary pokemon" only have one of that kind so that mew must be the only one in both movies... but that theory also is changed at the end when you see two Latios. So what is happening in these movies is it just not following the game/anime/manga ?

Animehero
July 9th, 2007, 07:25 AM
You have a really good point there.

Charaxes
July 9th, 2007, 08:58 AM
The TV series has acknowledged that the Legendaries aren't one of their kinds. We have OI Lugia and Whirl Islands Lugia, construct Entei and Groudon vs. the real deals, so obviously, there are two Mews. In the game canon, Mew hasn't been declared one of a kind, I don't think.

And the anime ignores game canon left and right, so don't be shocked. Besides, Mew is known for its short attention span (first movie), maybe it forgot it met Ash or something. Heh.

NessStar3000
July 9th, 2007, 09:04 AM
Here is the thing though...
The stories with Mew and all the other legendary pokemon might be connected and much more understandable in the Japanese versions of the movies, as I have learned the differences with the Japanese and English versions, when they translate the movies into English, some of the lines and even some parts of the story either slightly or majorly change. So I'm guessing that in the English versions of the movies, they weren't as understandable than the stories in the Japanese versions.

Charaxes
July 9th, 2007, 09:14 AM
Actually, the dub leaves that alone. With an occasional bent to the ultra rarity, like Moltres in Chronicles.

http://dogasu.bulbagarden.net/comparisons/chronicles/ep018.html

But that is out-of-continuity dub-wise with the main series' dubbing, so... I think in the original wave of movies, the rarity was true. But with the future Generations and genders, things change.

NessStar3000
July 9th, 2007, 09:32 AM
Actually, the dub leaves that alone. With an occasional bent to the ultra rarity, like Moltres in Chronicles.

http://dogasu.bulbagarden.net/comparisons/chronicles/ep018.html

But that is out-of-continuity dub-wise with the main series' dubbing, so... I think in the original wave of movies, the rarity was true. But with the future Generations and genders, things change.

So you're saying that there are only a few execptions in some of the cases of the legendaries?

Man of Faith
July 9th, 2007, 10:13 AM
I haven't seen the first movie in a while... But didn't Ash and everyone forget the events of part one... Or am I mixing it up with a movie from a different series(I do that a lot D: )

Pocket Monster Researcher Archer
July 9th, 2007, 10:18 AM
their might be more than one ledgend. ash apparantly catches all the pokemon making him a master. so their is more than likley mulitpul ledgends. mewtwo is the only one of a kind becasue it was designed to be a clone of mew, and man made.

NessStar3000
July 9th, 2007, 10:31 AM
I haven't seen the first movie in a while... But didn't Ash and everyon forget the events of what happend in part one... Or am mixing it up with a movie from a different series(I do that a lot D: )

Yes, everyone in New Island (except for Team Rocket) are teleported back into the Pokemon Center from the beginning of the movie with all of their memories on New Island lost. I've watched the movie more than 50 times so I know my info.

Their might be more than one ledgend. ash apparantly catches all the pokemon making him a master. so their is more than likley mulitpul ledgends. mewtwo is the only one of a kind becasue it was designed to be a clone of mew, and man made.

More likely the case, there are multiple legendaries in Pokemon in the game series if you have say... a Lugia from Silver and you face off a friend who also has a Lugia in their Silver, but this is the cause of the game, not the show which have great differences.

Charaxes
July 9th, 2007, 03:37 PM
So you're saying that there are only a few execptions in some of the cases of the legendaries?

I'm saying the series has changed from the first movie to now. But don't be surprised if that will further change in the future.

SBaby
July 9th, 2007, 06:02 PM
The way the Anime portrays it, it seems like there are main Legendaries that are more powerful than ordinary Legendaries. For instance, in the Battle Frontier, the Articuno Ash beat was of course nowhere near as powerful as the one from the second movie. If it had been THAT one, he would've gotten leveled by it.

ChibiGingi
July 9th, 2007, 06:25 PM
Okay. My theory? Remember how at the end of the first movie, Mewtwo erases everyone's memory (except maybe Mew)? That could explain why Ash and co. wouldn't remember meeting w/ Mew (though they seemed to know who Mew was).

As for Mew, someone else stated that it had a short attention span; that could be a factor, or perhaps Mew did recognize them, but knew that they didn't or couldn't remember him?

I never really thought about it much until you mentioned it, though. Interesting.

spike6958
July 9th, 2007, 06:36 PM
prehaps mewtwo's memory whip was'nt as permanent as they thought and they got bit's back and thats why the seemed to reconise him

ChibiGingi
July 9th, 2007, 06:41 PM
prehaps mewtwo's memory whip was'nt as permanent as they thought and they got bit's back and thats why the seemed to reconise him

Possibly. I'm guessing months- years passed since their encounter w/ Mewtwo (didn't see the sequel to that movie though) and it might have faded w/ time.

I figured that knowing of Mew's existence was common knowledge at this point or something, I guess.

Nekonron
July 10th, 2007, 02:06 AM
Possibly. I'm guessing months- years passed since their encounter w/ Mewtwo (didn't see the sequel to that movie though) and it might have faded w/ time.

Nope, by right Ash is *still* 10 years old. Although he should be at least 12 by now =/



Mew is known for its short attention span (first movie), maybe it forgot it met Ash or something. Heh.

lol yeah that's a very good theory. Or maybe he remembered but he rather have fun playing around with Pikachu. Mew is a very playful Pokemon after all.

Pocket Monster Researcher Archer
July 10th, 2007, 02:56 AM
mewtwo is probaly the most powerful pokemon. theirs nothing to say he dosent have the powers to erase memorys.

Shirona
July 10th, 2007, 03:36 AM
On a small note, Mewtwo did wipe everyone's memories even though Ash and friends met him again in Mewtwo Returns. Ash has to this date not recovered any memories of what happened in the first movie, nor the trainers he met, and his only sighting of Mew before the third Advance Generation movie was when he saw Mew at the pier at the end of the first movie.

ChibiGingi
July 10th, 2007, 09:28 AM
Nope, by right Ash is *still* 10 years old. Although he should be at least 12 by now =/

Ew... behold the children that never, ever age. It's like neverland...

Rayman6
July 11th, 2007, 12:54 AM
I love mew his is the best pokemon out there.