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Relyt
July 15th, 2007, 07:35 PM
I started a new game not too long ago and I plan to go through the game with this team. This is NOT my competitive battling team, and I don't care about the Natures or EVs of this team, but basically, their movesets.

Bolded moves are what they have now Italicized moves are what they will be.

Steelix
-Ice Fang
-Fire Fang
-Iron Tail
-Strength/Stone Edge

Yanmega
-Silver Wind
-Ancient Power
-Slash/Air Slash
-Super Sonic/Bug Buzz

Honchkrow
-Fly
-Haze
-Roost
-Pursuit/Night Slash

Sceptile
-Focus Blast
-Solar Beam/Leaf Storm
-Leech Seed
-False Swipe/Dragon Pulse

Swampert
-Surf
-Take Down/Hammer Arm
-Mirror Coat
-Ancient Power/Earthquake

Girafarig
-Psybeam
-Assurance
-Double Hit
-Stomp

I'm going to completely replace Girafarig with someone else. I was thinking:

Drapion
-Thunderfang
-X-Scissor
-Crunch
-Cross Poison





Now, this is my competitive team I plan on using for WiFi and tournaments. Please help me out with it, and recommend some moves you think may be better.

Frosslass @ Leftovers
Snow Cloak
Timid --- 252 Sp. Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
-Hail
-Ice Beam
-Thunderbolt
-Confuse Ray

Probopass @ Leftovers
Sturdy
Sassy --- 252 Defense, 252 Sp. Defense, 6 HP
-Magnet Rise
-Thunderwave
-Stealth Rock
-Gyro Ball

Gliscor @ Choice Band
Hyper Cutter
Adamant --- 252 Attack, 154 Speed, 104 Defense
-Poison Jab
-U-Turn
-Earthquake
-Thunderfang

Electivire @ Life Orb
Motor Drive
Adamant --- 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 Sp. Defense
-Thunderpunch
-Cross Chop
-Earthquake
-Ice Punch

Blissey @ Leftovers
Natural Cure
Bold --- 252 Defense, 252 HP, 6. Sp. Defense
-Ice Beam
-Softboiled
-Seismic Toss
-Aromatherapy

Metagross @ Shell Bell
Clear Body
Adamant --- 252 Attack, 154 HP, 104 Speed
-Earthquake
-Meteor Mash
-Agility
-Explosion

I already have the Blissey and Metagross, so I can't really change anything unless I start right over. (Which I don't really want to do) But yeah, please help me with both teams. :P

Piplup Master
July 15th, 2007, 08:55 PM
I
Frosslass - Timid - 252 Sp. Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
-SHADOW BALL
-Ice Beam
-Thunderbolt
-Confuse Ray

Probopass - Sassy - 252 Defense, 252 Sp. Defense, 6 HP
-Magnet Rise
-Thunderwave
-STEALTH ROCK
-Earthpower

Gliscor - Adamant - 252 Attack, 154 Speed, 104 Defense
-Poison Jab
-X-Scissor
-Nightslash
-Thunderfang

Electivire - Adamant - 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
-Thunderpunch
-BRICK BREAL
-Earthquake
-FIRE PUNCH

Metagross - Adamant - 252 Attack, 154 HP, 104 Speed
-Earthquake
-SHADOW BALL
-Meteor Mash
-Explosion

Blissey - Bold - 252 Defense, 252 HP, 6 Sp. Defense
-BRICK BREAK
-Ice Beam
-FLAMETHROWER
-Softboiled

I already have the Blissey and Metagross, so I can't really change anything unless I start right over. (Which I don't really want to do) But yeah, please help me with both teams. :P

I marked the changes with capitals

Relyt
July 16th, 2007, 01:30 AM
No offense but I don't really like your suggestions at all...

Frosslass basically NEEDS Hail for it's ability (raises evasion in Hailstorm) So I'm keeping Hail.

The only thing I'm with you on is the Stealth Rock on Probopass.

Cross Chop is more effective than Brick Break. And Ice Punch for dem Ground types. Fire Punch is a no-no since I already have Earthquake to take out Metagross, etc.

AgiliGross is better than Shadow Ball. Shadow Ball is Special Attack... His Special Attack is like 180 while Attack is like 400... If I Agility then start attacking, I'll go first and own.

Brick Break on Blissey?! You mad?! xD Flamethrower over Aromatherapy?! xD Know your Blissey movesets. Seismic Toss to ALWAYS do 100 damage, Ice Beam to take out Ghost types. (Gengar) Aromatherapy for obvious reasons and Softboiled. Please, actually put reason to your moves, because those movesets... peh...

Soulinferno
July 16th, 2007, 01:39 AM
Electivire is perfect as is though the only thing i can suggest for metagross is to replace explosion/agility with thunder punch though you need and emerald version to do that.

Relyt
July 16th, 2007, 01:55 AM
Yeah, I was wanting a Thunderpunch Metagross, but my Metagross has 31 Attack IVs and is already level 100. So I don't want to take the time to go beat my Emerald again only to get a Thunderpunch Metagross. :/

Bleach and Sunshine
July 16th, 2007, 02:02 AM
Gliscor - Choice Band
-Poison Jab
-U-Turn/Knock Off
-Earthquake
-Thunder Fang/Toxic

Relyt
July 16th, 2007, 02:13 AM
Alright I'm thinking about that Choice Band Gliscor. But no Toxic or Knock Off, I'll probably give him Earthquake. Thanks Bleach and Sunshine :P.

EDIT: Here's what I got so far if you didn't read above but for some awkward reason only read the last post. :P

Frosslass @ ???
Timid --- 252 Sp. Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
-Hail
-Ice Beam
-Thunderbolt
-Confuse Ray

Probopass @ Leftovers
Sassy --- 252 Defense, 252 Sp. Defense, 6 HP
-Magnet Rise
-Thunderwave
-Stealth Rock
-Earth Power

Gliscor @ Choice Band
Adamant --- 252 Attack, 154 Speed, 104 Defense
-Poison Jab
-U-Turn
-Earthquake
-Thunderfang

Electivire @ Life Orb
Adamant --- 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 Sp. Defense
-Thunderpunch
-Cross Chop
-Earthquake
-Ice Punch

Blissey @ Leftovers
Bold --- 252 Defense, 252 HP, 6. Sp. Defense
-Ice Beam
-Softboiled
-Seismic Toss
-Aromatherapy

Metagross @ Shell Bell
Adamant --- 252 Attack, 154 HP, 104 Speed
-Earthquake
-Meteor Mash
-Agility
-Explosion

Bleach and Sunshine
July 16th, 2007, 02:26 AM
Knock Off has it's benefits.

Alright Choice Band ^_^

Frosslass @ Leftovers
Timid
-Thunder Wave/Hail/Light Screen
-Ice Beam
-Shadow Ball
-Confuse Ray

I would give Probopass Gyro Ball over Earth Power sue it's low speed. It would do more damage. D:

Relyt
July 16th, 2007, 02:36 AM
So does Gyro Ball do more if the user's speed is lower? I never understood how that move works. And if I were to get that extra Leftovers on Frosslass I'd need to clone seeing as I only have two. :( I'd probably keep Hail over Light Screen or Thunderwave since Probopass is getting Thunderwave and Hail will activate it's ability.

Thank you again Bleach and Sunshine!

Bleach and Sunshine
July 16th, 2007, 02:46 AM
So does Gyro Ball do more if the user's speed is lower? I never understood how that move works. And if I were to get that extra Leftovers on Frosslass I'd need to clone seeing as I only have two. :( I'd probably keep Hail over Light Screen or Thunderwave since Probopass is getting Thunderwave and Hail will activate it's ability.

Thank you again Bleach and Sunshine!

Gyro depends on the difference between the speed I believe.

Probopass is Steel. So Gyro Ball makes more sense. You can get Leftovers in Diamond and Pearl.

Relyt
July 16th, 2007, 02:52 AM
Alright Gyro Ball it is! And I've already gotten the Leftovers and if I can get it through Battle Tower I'm not... I hate Battle Tower. xD

PS. I'm on WiFi. :P

EDIT: What I've got so far:

Frosslass @ Leftovers
Snow Cloak
Timid --- 252 Sp. Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
-Hail
-Ice Beam
-Thunderbolt
-Confuse Ray

Probopass @ Leftovers
Sturdy
Sassy --- 252 Defense, 252 Sp. Defense, 6 HP
-Magnet Rise
-Thunderwave
-Stealth Rock
-Gyro Ball

Gliscor @ Choice Band
Hyper Cutter
Adamant --- 252 Attack, 154 Speed, 104 Defense
-Poison Jab
-U-Turn
-Earthquake
-Thunderfang

Electivire @ Life Orb
Motor Drive
Adamant --- 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 Sp. Defense
-Thunderpunch
-Cross Chop
-Earthquake
-Ice Punch

Blissey @ Leftovers
Natural Cure
Bold --- 252 Defense, 252 HP, 6. Sp. Defense
-Ice Beam
-Softboiled
-Seismic Toss
-Aromatherapy

Metagross @ Shell Bell
Clear Body
Adamant --- 252 Attack, 154 HP, 104 Speed
-Earthquake
-Meteor Mash
-Agility
-Explosion