View Full Version : A team to counter ubers
Roihu
July 15th, 2007, 09:57 PM
Ok I have no option of ubers to use for the GS tournament and if they are used I'll be in some trouble.
I have a little less than 20 EV trained pokemon.
I have an espeon, A cresselia, A forretress, a gyarados, a metagross, an umbreon, a cloyster, a Skarmory (which I messed up on the EVs), A attacking sceptile, a Ninjask which I'm defenetly using but I think I should change sword dance to DT, gliscor, Weavile, Reversaler Lucario, sp attacking snorlax, sp attacking Manaphy, physical Blaziken, Bronzong, Latias (which is hacked so I might not use this one) Darkrai (Again hacked), Special Lucario, Leech seeder sceptile, a physical snorlax, A Breloom, and a Porygon-Z.
I'll get into detail on the ones you guys ask.
But I really need help cause I want to beat this tournament. (and hope there is no ubers)
And when I say ubers I mean the non EV trained at least.
Akuchiki Byakuya
July 15th, 2007, 10:07 PM
I suggest running all the moves of your pokes together, maybe like swords dance and speed boost with your ninjask to a slow attacking snorlax and unleash some returns and maybe you should use a toxi-tank umbreon so that you might stand a chance against a kyogre(which I doubt would happen).
Roihu
July 15th, 2007, 10:17 PM
I think replacing sword dance with DT specially for this tournament just in case I get lucky with a miss or any hyper beam.
Vainz
July 15th, 2007, 10:35 PM
I suggest just using the best pokemon combination you can come up with. I dont like Uber compition, so i dont know very much about legendaries, but i can help you with the best i can.
Here is what i suggest from your options:
Metagross
Ninjask
Gyarados
Umbreon
Cresselia
Porygon-Z/Darkrai
What the crap is a Sp.Attacking Snorlax???
DDBoahTar
July 15th, 2007, 10:42 PM
Special Attacking Snorlax is something I showed him a while ago (Polistorm, HI ROI!)
Snorlax @ Choice Specs
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt
- I think it was Flamethrower.
Roihu
July 15th, 2007, 11:07 PM
Oh SS >_>
Anyways I hope people show up with lv 5 bulbasaurs :P
DDBoahTar
July 15th, 2007, 11:23 PM
Level 1 is better.
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anemos
July 15th, 2007, 11:39 PM
the easiest way is to avoid battling people who use ubers without letting you know beforehand.
Roihu
July 16th, 2007, 12:45 AM
That won't work at the GS tournament -_-
anemos
July 16th, 2007, 12:46 AM
Oh, i guess thats true. i'm considering doing the gamecrazy one, probably will have a lower turnout, thus more organization.
Berserk Gene
July 16th, 2007, 12:52 AM
Definately put weavile on your team, along with a swords dancing/substitute BPer.
Swords danced ice punch kills giratina and diagla. Swords danced night slash kills alot of the ubers..since so many are psychic. Give weavile focus sash, and try to BP to it with a substitute in play, that way, weavile will survive 3 hits, minimum. Plenty of time to sweep like there is no tomorrow.
anemos
July 16th, 2007, 01:08 AM
i say ninjask for the baton passer. theres always the shock factor, as most peole use a an aerodactyl or jolteon as their starter. you gain at least 2 boosts without being damaged in most cases.
Roihu
July 16th, 2007, 01:08 AM
Finally the 1st good tip I got!!!
Thanks Berserk Gene!!!
Ninjask is no doubt gonna be my BP.
freedom123
July 16th, 2007, 03:23 AM
^ do this:
ninjask@ leftovers
>baton pass
>swords dance
>agility
>AA/x-scizor
first turn: set up sub
gained: 1 rank in speed
2nd turn: sword dance
gained total: 2 stages in speed, 2 stages in attack
3rd turn: set up 2nd sub
gained total: 3 stages in speed, 2 stages in attack
4th turn: sword dance
gained total: 4 stages in speed, 4 stages in attack
5th turn: 3rd sub on
gained total: 5 stages in speed, 4 stages in attack
6th turn( can be variables): if the uber is rayquaza, which has extreme speed, baton pass now, but since not alot have it use another sword dance.
total gained: 6 stages in speed and attack ( maxed considering opponent doesnt have extreme speed)
baton pass to physical sweeper, meaning that sweeper gains extra 600% in speed and attack, ie if both stats are 250+, its gonna get pumped to 1500 (1 hit ko in most cases)
now it is very important to survive the hit that u receive after u baton pass...if memory serves me correct u do get hit...i usually use rhyperior...with solid rock meaning it will survive that hit, and still in the end have around 800 speed and around 1800 attack with the boosts but i guess lucario and blaziken are still usable.
also it is very important to know that now that u ahve such high attack and speed, do not miss, so if u use blaziken let it have AA so kill anything that can double team(if this is official competition DT and those that affect accuracy are banned) and another 3 moves that has 100 hit rate for example brick break, flare blitz, close combat, elemental punches.
hope i helped, and any questions i will answer
Roihu
July 16th, 2007, 03:59 AM
Since everyone is saying Ninjask I'm guessing it'll be extremely helpful in this tournament.
freedom123
July 16th, 2007, 04:05 AM
look at how i would use him...u get a slow pokemon to end up with around 8-00 speed and 1.5k offence...its ultra good xD
Toothache
July 16th, 2007, 08:25 AM
Yeah, just don't put Agility on him since you have Speed Boost.
Speaking of useful Bug types, consider an Endreving Heracross. With Swarm, that Megahorn is doing a massive 270 base damage, Reversal at 300 base damage at low health. Just be sure to remove Quick Attackers before setting this monster up. With the commonness of Psychic types among the ubers, Megahorn pwns most everthing. HEld item should be a Salac Berry, EV 252 Att / 252 Speed /6 HP. Have Rock Slide in your fourth slot.
Cabose
July 16th, 2007, 10:16 AM
^ do this:
ninjask@ leftovers
>baton pass
>swords dance
>agility
>AA/x-scizor
first turn: set up sub
gained: 1 rank in speed
2nd turn: sword dance
gained total: 2 stages in speed, 2 stages in attack
3rd turn: set up 2nd sub
gained total: 3 stages in speed, 2 stages in attack
4th turn: sword dance
gained total: 4 stages in speed, 4 stages in attack
5th turn: 3rd sub on
gained total: 5 stages in speed, 4 stages in attack
6th turn( can be variables): if the uber is rayquaza, which has extreme speed, baton pass now, but since not alot have it use another sword dance.
total gained: 6 stages in speed and attack ( maxed considering opponent doesnt have extreme speed)
baton pass to physical sweeper, meaning that sweeper gains extra 600% in speed and attack, ie if both stats are 250+, its gonna get pumped to 1500 (1 hit ko in most cases)
now it is very important to survive the hit that u receive after u baton pass...if memory serves me correct u do get hit...i usually use rhyperior...with solid rock meaning it will survive that hit, and still in the end have around 800 speed and around 1800 attack with the boosts but i guess lucario and blaziken are still usable.
also it is very important to know that now that u ahve such high attack and speed, do not miss, so if u use blaziken let it have AA so kill anything that can double team(if this is official competition DT and those that affect accuracy are banned) and another 3 moves that has 100 hit rate for example brick break, flare blitz, close combat, elemental punches.
hope i helped, and any questions i will answer
Just explain to me how you expect ninjask to survive when he;
1) doesn't have substitute on his move list
and 2) He won't be able to always sub, as a hit from any uber is guaranteed to break your sub, so you'll constantly be loosing 25% of your HP without being able to set up, that's why I suggest protect, instead of an attacking move, but meh, its your preference.
Roihu
July 16th, 2007, 04:28 PM
What I'm hoping is to switch it in on a dialga so it uses Roar of time of something :P
Also I might not be using ninjask because of the fact it might be double battle...of course that could also work to my advantage with noobs not attacking the weaker looking one...