SSBB: Pokémon needs noticing a bit more!

[Gyoka]

Does anyone else think that lucario is going to be in brawl? I feel that he will be and will be similar to Mewtwo from Melee.

[Ariel]

I'd like to think that he will be present in Brawl, yes.

However, I get the feel he won't be. And that the main Pokemon featured in it will be the R/S/E set. Which is lame, as some of the new ones would look amazing in SSBB. It would certainly help increase people's awareness pf Pokemon D/P...not that the games need any more advertisement.

[ConfusedOne]

I'd love for Lucario to be in Brawl.

To take a game like Smash which I'm already an avid fan and player of and to throw in Lucario who is indeed one of my favorite Pokemon... wow. One can only imagine the possibilities.
I already know I'd use Lucario and try to master his moves.

I did the same with Mewtwo when I first unlocked him for Melee. I was telling myself that he was horrible long ago and now... I find Mewtwo to be a weapon of choice for me when I play Melee against friends. Hopefully, I'll do the same for Lucario but just always like what he is capable of.

[Shadowflame3458]

He better be. I wanna blow someone off the field with Aura Sphere!

[wolfie1177]

probably not. i mean, he's cool but chances are they'll throw in a legend or something, not lucario

[Ichida]

Can't say for sure, but Lucario's the right size and has enough personality and appeal to be in Brawl.

[ConfusedOne]

Can't say for sure, but Lucario's the right size and has enough personality and appeal to be in Brawl.

All good reasons why Lucario should be in Brawl.
I'll give more.

He is a fighting type. Why not put him in a game entitled "Brawl".
He could use Aura Sphere just like Mewtwo was able to use Shadow Ball in Melee.
Looking at his stats and moves in something like D/P, you would think he could be highly physical right? Thats an attribute perfect for Brawl.
As far as a special move goes... I can imagine Lucario unleashing a massive Aura Sphere or Focus Blast on his opponents.

All in all, I think this Pokemon has all the key assets not only be a playable character in Brawl, but also to be a major powerhouse in it.

A Super Smash Bros/Lucario fan has spoken. Give the people what they want =P

[Ichida]

Yeah, his Final Smash would probably be Focus Blast. XDD

[Shiny Umbreon]

It's not going to be because SSBB is about the last generation (GameCube + GameBoyAdvance), but it could be a good idea for the next Smash Bros. game. Though I have somehow the feeling that Deoxys will replace or at least clone Mewtwo.

[ConfusedOne]

It's not going to be because SSBB is about the last generation (GameCube + GameBoyAdvance), but it could be a good idea for the next Smash Bros. game. Though I have somehow the feeling that Deoxys will replace or at least clone Mewtwo.

Then why third party characters like Snake?
Or do you just mean last generation in general?

[Gyoka]

They did include Link from Twilight Princess, A Wii game. That is not last generation.

[Shiny Umbreon]

A Wii game also available in GameCube. And also this game was in development for much more time but it had many delays. Finally they just kept it until the release of the Wii. And also, I think Nintendo as well as most fans prefer any Link than Wind Waker's. (Not because it looks childish but also because it doesn't really represents Zelda, which must be more mature and serious)

Then why third party characters like Snake?
Or do you just mean last generation in general?

The Gamecube and GBA were a reference. Obviously it means GameCube + GBA + PS2 + XBox + etc.

[Gyoka]

I still think Lucario will be in Brawl. There's no justifiable reason why he can't be. And Pokemon Diamond and Pearl did come out before Twilight Princess anyway.

[Shiny Umbreon]

I know Pokémon began as a kids' game about little cute monsters that fought with slaps and whatever, but it's not like that anymore. It's the second biggest franchise (second to Mario) and it has attracted many, many, many people, even above 20 years old keep playing (I will, too). The thing is that, say, you don't know about Pokémon and you play SSBM. You see a Pokémon Stadium and PokéFloats. It looks as if Pokémon was just any game there, but really Pokémon has lots of stories and legends, even ones not told in the games that fan create or try to puzzle out.

So my complaint is this: I think Pokémon won't be attracting to people who don't know it. This means that games like SSB should have locations, people or any other reference to Pokémon that fans could recognize and talk about. For example, an idea would be to have the Sky Pillar as a stage in SSBB, with Rayquaza sleeping in the back and maybe waking up and attacking sometimes. Mt. Pyre, Mt. Silver, Tin Tower, Seafoam Islands, Power Plant, Stark Mountain, Safari Zone, many of these could be good and appealing for players.

I don't know if I'm expressing myself well but really Pokémon Stadium (and much less the PokéFloats) don't exist in the Pokémon canon. Aside from Pokéballs, there could also be some other things like Lava Cookies, MooMoo Milk, Sacred Ash, King's Rocks, Smoke Balls, or even berries. What I try to say (again repeating) is that Pokémon looks as any game when it should have as many elements as Mario because, aside from the four characters, there's nothing from Pokémon that stands out to have people notice it.

Complain if you agree with me. POKÉMON NEEDS NOTICING!

[Shiny Umbreon]

And are they going to forget completely R/S/E. That's the focus right now. It's always about the second newest thing because the newest would spoil the game (like Sheik if he had been in SSB64)

[Gyoka]

How would Lucario spoil anything? The movie featuring him came out about a year ago and he was one of the first 4th gen announcements and even if Lucario gets added that doesn't mean another R/S/E pokemon won't. They added Pichu and Mewtwo to Melee. They could always add Lucario and Blaziken or something. But I do understand your argument about how the focus will be on the 3rd gen. I think the pokeballs focus is definitely on R/S/E since Groudon has been announced.

[Ichida]

Yeah, Luc's enjoying a lot of popularity right now.

It just occurred to me; this shouldn't be in the Battle Revolution section...

[Gyoka]

Yeah, Luc's enjoying a lot of popularity right now.

It just occurred to me; this shouldn't be in the Battle Revolution section...

Sorry bout that. I just saw Wii in parentheses. lol. Wasn't paying much attention.

[Allstories]

You cannot be serious. There were way too many Pokémon in SSBM, and I think you're being a tad unrealistic in assuming that ANYONE who would play SSBB wouldn't know about Pokémon at all. Just because you apparently like Pokémon a whole lot doesn't mean that it should get a disproportionate amount of attention. You, I'm afraid, are not everyone.

[Soma Peries]

If you haven't noticed. Nintendo doesn't care how well each game series does when they pick things for the SSB games. The game is supposed to be diverse, spanning many different games and many different genres. In my opinion, all of the Pokemon in Melee was overkill playable character wise. We didn't need Pikachu, Pichu, Jigglypuff and Mewtwo. Stick with the two classics for the game, Pikachu and Jigglypuff, and you're golden.

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[That_Stick_Dude]

I'm leaning towards probably not. I'm not sure if it'll be in, but it has a chance. I don't know, I think only a few Pokemon will be in. Or maybe the same one's in Melee, but with one or two Sinnoh Pokemon.

[Shiny Umbreon]

You cannot be serious. There were way too many Pokémon in SSBM, and I think you're being a tad unrealistic in assuming that ANYONE who would play SSBB wouldn't know about Pokémon at all. Just because you apparently like Pokémon a whole lot doesn't mean that it should get a disproportionate amount of attention. You, I'm afraid, are not everyone.

The second biggest franchise means many people, not only me, like it. I'm just asking what Pokémon deserves. I know, Pichu and Jigglypuff should die and never return but apart from them, what do you have from Pokémon? 1 item and 2 stages, while Mario must have half the items and 4 stages. Really it's being left apart.

If you haven't noticed. Nintendo doesn't care how well each game series does when they pick things for the SSB games. The game is supposed to be diverse, spanning many different games and many different genres. In my opinion, all of the Pokemon in Melee was overkill playable character wise. We didn't need Pikachu, Pichu, Jigglypuff and Mewtwo. Stick with the two classics for the game, Pikachu and Jigglypuff, and you're golden.

Yeah, too many Pokémon, or at least too many useless Pokémon. I don't know why Jigglypuff is there, though. Of course it must be diverse but obviously the most popular must be the most important. That's why half the items are from Mario.

[Shadow Chaos]

Attack Deoxys comes out of the Poke Ball in Super Smash Bros. Brawl! Check out today's update on the site!

[The dawn Witch Lucia]

Speed Deoxys comes out of the Poke Ball in Super Smash Bros. Brawl! Check out today's update on the site!

It's attack deoxys IIRC. Yeah, there needs to be a Mt. Coronet/Spear Pillar arena.

[Fallen Angel_Messiah Of Black Roses]

Berries should come out of Party balls like the food... yeah.. there we go

[Shadow Chaos]

It's attack deoxys IIRC. Yeah, there needs to be a Mt. Coronet/Spear Pillar arena.

So it is; my mistake!! -.-' I don't have Deoxys, so I made the mistake cause they kinda look alike a little... Fixed...

[Shiny Umbreon]

Wow. Another Pokémon coming from a Poké Ball. Now THAT is a new thing we fans couldn't have thought about!

[Pikachu2007]

So far, Pikachu is the only Pokémon confirmed as a palyable character. If the game should add another Pokémon as a playable character, I think Munchlax would be an interesting choice. It' very strong for a baby Pokémon and could probably be hard to knock off the stage. It's perfect!:)

[Pikachu2007]

Now that you mention it, Lucario would be perfect for Brawl. It'd be Melee's Mewtwo!

[~Daisuke~]

Probably Blaziken too...How 'bout this you give me a character idea you think is goin' to be on SSBB...Because what I can do is summarize the probabilities of the character in the game. So start asking me I'll start writing down.

[Pikachu2007]

Probably Blaziken too...How 'bout this you give me a character idea you think is goin' to be on SSBB...Because what I can do is summarize the probabilities of the character in the game. So start asking me I'll start writing down.
Well, I thought Munchlax would be a good idea, but what about Lucario?

[~Daisuke~]

Thing is they will put D/P Pokes as usable characters on SSBB but they didn't do any SSB games during R/S/E/FR/LG's release so they focus on those first then they might fit in D/P ones but for Lucario..they might..They like to use pokemon that can use physical/special moves that aren't to big.Like Lucario would have special attacks like:
Direction-Special move button:Force Palm
Special move button:Shadow Ball
Jump-Special move button:Sky Uppercut
Duck-Special move button:Low Kick

Tell me what you think.

[Shiny Umbreon]

I have somehow the feeling that Deoxys will replace or at least clone Mewtwo.

Deoxys has been announced as a Pokémon coming out from the Poké Balls. *cries*

I was thinking about something like this:
B = Charges Psycho Boost in a similar way of Mewtwo's Shadow Ball.
Up + B = Extremespeed. Shows Speed deoxys "teleporting" as Pikachu does with quick attack.
Down + B = Becomes Defense Deoxys for a short amount of time and acts as Fox's Reflector or Peach's Toad.
Left/Right + B = Zap Cannon or whatever, but it must be a proyectile attack, obviously as Attack Deoxys.
The rest of the time it would be normal-form deoxys.

[NessStar3000]

Lucario makes perfect sense as a character for SSBB. The game does not come out until Dec. 3, so the creators should have enough time to think about it.

[Angelix]

It's not going to be because SSBB is about the last generation (GameCube + GameBoyAdvance), but it could be a good idea for the next Smash Bros. game. Though I have somehow the feeling that Deoxys will replace or at least clone Mewtwo.

Deoxys is now a Pokeball Pokemon, it's official. It uses Hyper Beam.

Reference:

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/items/mball/mball03.html

Also, I thought Lucario would have used a Bone Throw (or whatever it's called) as a B attack. You know, as a projectile.

[The Real AAA]

No he's not going to be in the game but I wish he was

[Shiny Umbreon]

Deoxys is now a Pokeball Pokemon, it's official. It uses Hyper Beam.

Reference:

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/items/mball/mball03.html

Also, I thought Lucario would have used a Bone Throw (or whatever it's called) as a B attack. You know, as a projectile.

Yeah, I just posted that a while ago.

[TRIFORCE89]

The lack of Pokemon doesn't bother me. But, I won't object to more as long as its based on the games and not the anime.

[Shiny Umbreon]

Well, there's so little information to consider it based on the games, though that's what it's supposed to be. Misty's trophy has her anime clothes, however.

Well, I thought Munchlax would be a good idea, but what about Lucario?

As I said, this is emphasizing the third generation, which means no Lucario or Munchlax. Munchlax could be a good choice for the next one, though. I hadn't thought about him.

[Hero of Time Link³]

I think if there is going to be more pokemon it should only be a trophy(kinda like a pokeball) and SSBB has mainly gotten the fans votes for characters so it there isn't much chance their getting pokemon arenas.

[Cherish_Darkrai]

Hey! How do you know Lucario isnt going to be in it?

[Always and Never]

How do you know it is?

I personally despise Lucario, and I think it is disgusting that it would be a character.

[Shadowflame3458]

ifyou Imagine 3 potential MAJOR powerhouses in this game, They would be:

Lucario
Blaziken
Mewtwo

[~Daisuke~]

No he's not going to be in the game but I wish he was

Thing is you don't know that. And for the post before that
it has to make sense..I mean where would Lucario get a bone from?
Like a water pokemon wouldn't have surf in that game nore any other moves that are learnable but don't make any sense in another 3d games.

[~Daisuke~]

Well, I thought Munchlax would be a good idea, but what about Lucario?

Well since it'll be complicated to make it in Wii controls I'll do it GC controls and yes Munchlax is quite possible for a pokeball command and character:

B:Solar Beam
Left/Right+B:Mega Punch
Down+B:Rest
Up+B:Snore

Once you think about it Munchlax will probably be a SSB twin of Jigglypuff like Pichu is a twin of Pikachu.

[ConfusedOne]

Thing is you don't know that. And for the post before that
it has to make sense..I mean where would Lucario get a bone from?
Like a water pokemon wouldn't have surf in that game nore any other moves that are learnable but don't make any sense in another 3d games.

BACOON is right. Just because the move is learnable in D/P doesn't mean it would work it a game like Brawl.

As far as a projectile move goes, Lucario would be fine with a chargable aura sphere.

[Hero of Time Link³]

Lucario is probably not going to get in it because the creators have already decided the characters and are slowly showing them off.

[Scales]

Highly doubt full. Since Diamond was recently released and all the characters from Brawl were most likely all decided when Brawl was first announced. So It is highly doubtful that the creators would. Since they also lean towards protagonists, major characters and antagonists more then just regular characters

[Ninja Monkey]

Highly doubt full. Since Diamond was recently released and all the characters from Brawl were most likely all decided when Brawl was first announced. So It is highly doubtful that the creators would. Since they also lean towards protagonists, major characters and antagonists more then just regular characters
It's not like they design the Pokemon the day the game comes out. Lucario appeared in one of the movies the same year Brawl was first announced, so it's not a big time deifference.

[pokemon lover]

I love them games, i hope lucario is on it, as then i will def get the game (im lucario's hugestest fann)

love pokemons,
ThePokemonLover

[Heracross]

I don't know. I would like him to be in the game, but then I don't know if he will. Yes, he is a very important Pokemon, but what about others? We will just have ot wait and fimd out for ourselves.

[Shadowflame3458]

Maybe they should put Blaziken in there for a little Smash Mix-Up. Maybe a Chargeable Blaze Kick.

[Shiny Umbreon]

Pikachu and Pichu, and maybe even Mewtwo are alright. I don't know why you want other nonimportant pokémon to be playable. Maybe Deoxys or Darkrai (in the next Smash Bros) would be good because they are important.

[Ninja Monkey]

Pikachu and Pichu, and maybe even Mewtwo are alright. I don't know why you want other nonimportant pokémon to be playable. Maybe Deoxys or Darkrai (in the next Smash Bros) would be good because they are important.
Deoxys will be in the pokeball, so he wouldn't be a playable character. Darkrai isn't humanoid enough to be a character, and is probably too large.Maybe they should put Blaziken in there for a little Smash Mix-Up. Maybe a Chargeable Blaze Kick.
Sounds an awful lot like Captain Flacon to me.

[PenguinGengar]

I honestly think he will be in the game. He is THE most popular Pokemon of D/P, and might possibly be up there in popularity, close to Pikachu even. He HAS been out for a long time, could have the perfect moveset, and would appeal to a large amount of fans, which would sell the game more.

PC should start a petition to send to Nintendo to get them to put Lucario in the game and to not get rid of any characters.

[gameplay]

it would sound really awesome if lucario was in brawl!

[gameplay]

Do you guys think Pichu will not be playable, but instead be a pokemon in a pokeball?

[The Real AAA]

Thing is you don't know that. And for the post before that
it has to make sense..I mean where would Lucario get a bone from?
Like a water pokemon wouldn't have surf in that game nore any other moves that are learnable but don't make any sense in another 3d games.

um 99% he's not going to be a playable character but IF he is feature in the game he probably be a pokeball doing an extreme speed or something

[Sakurah]

I hope it's another playable character like in the last game.
It was so cute. xD

[Poke Spriter]

I hope pichu becomes playable because I like pichu

[Shiny Umbreon]

Lucario will NOT be in the game at all. We can be sure of that because Smash Bros (except for the 64 one, because it appeared much later than the N64 itself) focuses on the previous generation. I know there isn't much to spoil in Pokémon, but even if Lucario has been known for a while, it has been just months since D/P came out, so people won't know it at all (except for Pokémon fans). And remember that GameFreak doesn't actually tell whoever makes Brawl the new Pokémon it's going to use and new places that are going to appear. Smash Bros takes ideas from previous games, unless you keep thinking that in 8 months they'll decide to add a character, model it, animate it, make it fit in the selection screen, make event matches for it, and whatever. This takes time and playable character are the first thing that's decided here.

Thing is they will put D/P Pokes as usable characters on SSBB but they didn't do any SSB games during R/S/E/FR/LG's release so they focus on those first.

Excuse me, the GameCube is from the GBA era, but of course Melee came out a month after the Cube and, unless it had come out very late, it wouldn't have had GameCube/GBA elements on it either.

[NessStar3000]

Sure the SSB series started with this whole "I'm first so I'll add in new stuff in the sequel" pattern, but that doesn't mean Nintendo can make surprises. Lucario could be a secret unlockable character and they would not most likely show the new secret newcomers on the super smash dojo website, due to him being a secret character.

If he doesn't make it into the game, here is another possibility of surprise from Nintendo... don't you remember hearing a feature on the Wii where you can download new features for your game? (I heard and watched this feature being explained on the Wii demomstration disc) This includes downloadable new characters, so hey, I'm guess there's a slight bigger chance of Lucario being in the game now.

If you are just those people who say he won't be in the game but in reality want him to be in the game, you are just probably want to avoid dissapointment. That's understandable, because I suffered from that in the past about a lot. I eventually got kind of use to it though and this is why I'm a game creator myself. I know Lucario will be in my extreme cross-over PC fighting game, Ultimate Clash, so you can believe that for sure. ^_^

[Esupio]

Lucario will NOT be in the game at all. We can be sure of that because Smash Bros (except for the 64 one, because it appeared much later than the N64 itself) focuses on the previous generation. I know there isn't much to spoil in Pokémon, but even if Lucario has been known for a while, it has been just months since D/P came out, so people won't know it at all (except for Pokémon fans). And remember that GameFreak doesn't actually tell whoever makes Brawl the new Pokémon it's going to use and new places that are going to appear. Smash Bros takes ideas from previous games, unless you keep thinking that in 8 months they'll decide to add a character, model it, animate it, make it fit in the selection screen, make event matches for it, and whatever. This takes time and playable character are the first thing that's decided here.



Excuse me, the GameCube is from the GBA era, but of course Melee came out a month after the Cube and, unless it had come out very late, it wouldn't have had GameCube/GBA elements on it either.

Lucario appeared a LONG time before diamond and pearl were released.

[NessStar3000]

Lucario appeared a LONG time before diamond and pearl were released.

Yeah, that's true for sure and I bet Lucario is pretty famous in Japan too, the US majority isn't the only thing that counts.

I know myself it takes awhile to make playable characters for a game and I bet it takes the creators much more time and effort to create a character in SSBB than me making a character for Ultimate Clash, but in another reason why would they be lazy about it? They are known good game creators and would spend their game creating time by adding new features and characters and taking their time doing it, making sure the fans stay satisfied.

[diamondpearl876]

I think it'll be playable, since it's close to Pikachu and Pikachu basically represents pokemon..

[Dr.Stiles]

i really really hope so but if it is i hope everytime it does an electric attack it doesnt hurt itself i didnt like that in smbm

[Sabaku no Gaara]

I think it'll be playable, since it's close to Pikachu and Pikachu basically represents pokemon..

but then where is Raichu? Raichu came before Pikachu but it was never put into the game.

[Lightning]

I hope Pichu isn't put into the game. It's my favourite Pokémon, no doubt about that, but it really is useless in most battles. I only ever use it if items are turned on because it's quick to get and use them...but for mostly everything else, it's a terrible player. It's too light to hold its ground on stage and it hurts itself any time it uses a decent attack. I just use Pikachu instead because, although not as fast, it's a better all-around fighter. oo;

I don't want it to be playable, but I don't see how it could be useful from a Pokéball. It's not a legendary and the fact that it shares an evolution chain with a definite playable character (Pikachu) means it won't have any signature moves that it could use either.

I'd rather just see it taken out of the game so that people stop ratting on how useless it is. ;_;' It's hard to defend it when it has few good points.

[jigglyppuff8]

Has anybody ever considered pichu becoming an assist trophy?
It doesn't matter if pichu becomes playable, a pokeball pokemon, or an assist trophy. Jigglypuff will own them all!!!

[Pikachu2007]

It's not like they design the Pokemon the day the game comes out. Lucario appeared in one of the movies the same year Brawl was first announced, so it's not a big time deifference.
True. And Munchlax first appeared in the Destiny Deoxys movie WAY before Diamond and Pearl came out, so it's likely that Munchlax might be in the game.

[wmoor0826]

I remember a loooooooooooooooong time ago, I heard the new playable pokemon was either gonna be weavile, infernape, lucario, blaziken, or deoxys. And deoxys is now a pokeball pokemon so he's off.

[Shiny Umbreon]

I just noticed that my thread and the "Will Lucario be in Brawl?" were merged. Now the title doesn't make sense with the poll, the first post and the rest of the discussion...

[PenguinGengar]

Lucario should be in the game, I think.

Pichu/Pikachu should have a Zelda/Shiek kinda thing, but instead of Transform Pichu uses Evolve, and Pikachu uses something else. Everstone, perhaps? I dunno.

Does anyone know if the makers of Brawl have like, a suggestion box or something? ;-;

[Gyoka]

Lucario should be in the game, I think.

Pichu/Pikachu should have a Zelda/Shiek kinda thing, but instead of Transform Pichu uses Evolve, and Pikachu uses something else. Everstone, perhaps? I dunno.

Does anyone know if the makers of Brawl have like, a suggestion box or something? ;-;

That's not a bad idea, but it will never happen.

[Shiny Umbreon]

Does anyone know if the makers of Brawl have like, a suggestion box or something? ;-;

I heard they did ask for suggestions in Japanese forums, but that was long time ago.

[gameplay]

That's not a bad idea, but it will never happen.

True that. But, I really think Pichu will just be taken out of the game FOR GOOD. That's my opinion. Plz don't criticize.

[BrainDamage]

well, think about it, mewtwo could talk..... lucario could talk (in that movie) just some other useless comparison for you to think about. xD

[yinyang147]

If Lucario is gonna be in Brawl, I doubt they'd make it a playable character. Maybe it'll come out of a pokeball like Ho-oh, and all the other pokemon that aren't playable.

[Rena Ryuugu]

So far, the only pokemon scheduled to be in it for sure is pikachu.

Super Smash Bros. Dojo! (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/index.html)

This site has daily updates about SSBB.

[Toshinden]

There were 4 PKMN in the last game... I'm pretty confident they need LESS PKMN coverage in SSB since no other franchise has that many characters in the game (and don't tell me that the Mario franchise has too many characters in it, because each of those characters appears in games outside of the regular Mario series somewhere).

SSB needs another Fire Emblem character (even though I'm stoked that Ike is in it... I'd love to see Zihark, Tibarn, or Mordecai), possibly a Final Fantasy character, a Golden Axe character, Sonic and/or Knuckles, and someone from Tales Of (i.e. Lloyd or Presea)

[pokemon157]

Lucario in Braw whould be awsome!!!!

[HoundoomOfTheDarkness]

I honestly must say that Pichu's going away. There is no possible way that can give it a moveset that stops it from being a Pikachu clone. And yes, Lucario would be awesome in Brawl.

And, quite simply, Mario characters on SSB:M include:

Main Mario (mushroom symbol)
Mario
Luigi
Peach
Bowser
Dr. Mario (clone)

Other Mario (other symbols)
Yoshi
Donkey Kong

Of course, Mario is Nintendo's mascot...

[Sr E]

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/index.html

Red is going to be a playable character in Super Smash Bros (under the name Pokemon Trainer). Rather than fighting himself, he will switch between a Squirtle, an Ivysaur, and a Charizard to battle for him.

[Soma Peries]

Which in my opinion is the most ridiculous concept ever. =/

Seriously, that makes four playable Pokemon so far. I hope to God they don't bring out anymore.

[Extric]

Yeah, I don't think you'll be seeing this character being used much. I'm just going to be sticking with Link/Pit/Ike/Fox characters. They've already got Pikachu and Jigglypuff and both are pretty good characters, but this one isn't good at all.

[Innagadadavida]

Are you guys kidding me? CHARIZARD.

I'll play as this guy. But I'm switching out squitle and ivysaur right away. This is a FANTASTIC idea. I love the concept and I can't wait for the game.

[Extric]

Are you guys kidding me? CHARIZARD.

I'll play as this guy. But I'm switching out squitle and ivysaur right away. This is a FANTASTIC idea. I love the concept and I can't wait for the game.

You can't only just play with Charizard. They have a Stamina meter that plays into effect when you use the Pokemon.

They all share the same damage meter, so they don’t recover from damage during Pokémon Change. But they also have another stat, which you might call stamina.

If you keep fighting with the same Pokémon, or if you change them out too often, it’s not so good for the Pokémon.

If you want to be a good Pokémon Trainer, you’ll need to learn these kinds of ins and outs.

[Innagadadavida]

You can't only just play with Charizard. They have a Stamina meter that plays into effect when you use the Pokemon.

Oh... I guess I need to start RTFA.

So I retract my previous statement.

RIP OFF!

[Gyoka]

The new update today on the smash bros. website is awesome. Charizard, Ivysaur, and Squirtle are all playable characters at the same time. (They can be switched in and out)

[Ausaudriel]

lawl xD

Interesting.. I think I'll actually have fun playing with this character. :O Being able to switch between three different "sub" characters (the Pokemon) reminds me of playing as Zelda/Sheik.

Also, I like the "stamina" meter concept a lot. I'd probably end up relying on one Pokemon too much. Like this, I'll be forced to switch around a bit.

[TRIFORCE89]

I like how the Pokemon. They look good in 3D for once.

But, Smash is fun as a straight multiplayer free-for-all brawl. If one person has to worry about this stamina thing I thing it gives them a disadvantage.

[Honey-Senpai]

Oh man, I never expected this!
It's going to be fun playing with Red!
His hat is a bit pinkish though...

Waaai~
~Honey-Senpai~

[Rena Ryuugu]

XD It was only a matter of Super Smash games until this happened.

I think it's a clever idea, but it could be slightly annoying...

[~Daisuke~]

Think about it. It is common sense cause they didn't overdue it by making the pokemon all 3rd evos. Also they probably go like the Ice Climbers. And when they talked about stamina they probably mean(and I know I'm right)people will stick with Charizard cause he is(teh uber-b33st:in noobish slang) but he will worn out and have to keep changing around to the other pokes and that will also worn them out.Which also makes sense.

[yuki123]

It's quite interesting. But I'll stick to Link and similar chars(unless I'm really good with Red)

[vizforte]

COOL!! Super Smash Bros has always been a rather quirky game as is. Adding a Pokemon Trainer is actually, for pokemon addicts, a rather novel idea. I know this alone will make me want to buy it even more. Would make less sense if the trainer fought. lol. Course, some different pokemon would be nice, like... oh load in maybe some of your own starter pokemon only.

Just a thought, but interesting idea. Specially since they only really had the lame or over done pokemon in SSB, Jigglypuff.... WHY?! Pikachu.. shock shock. PUN intended. Pichu... no comment. Mewtwo... because he is that cool? No, just that much hype..

Some pokemon like Hitmonchan, HitmonLee, some of the fighting pokemon would make more sense. Since its a fighter game. Hariyama would be my preference.

[Extric]

It doesn't say anything about the Pokémon regaining stamina when they're not battling. So if they don't recharge then what will you do when all three of those Pokémon run out of stamina? It doesn't say anything about red himself being able to fight, just the Pokémon. With all of your Pokémon down you might be in trouble. Besides, they already have the Pokéballs that let me use Pokémon.

[Ausaudriel]

It doesn't say anything about the Pokémon regaining stamina when they're not battling. So if they don't recharge then what will you do when all three of those Pokémon run out of stamina? It doesn't say anything about red himself being able to fight, just the Pokémon. With all of your Pokémon down you might be in trouble. Besides, they already have the Pokéballs that let me use Pokémon.
I'm sure the stamina recharges. o.o I doubt they'd make a character that would just.. "expire", nobody would use it if they did. That doesn't make sense.

Just because they don't specifically say the stamina recharges doesn't mean it doesn't, it just means.. they haven't said anything about it yet.

[Sr E]

What do you think happens when his pokemon get KO'ed? Will he also be knocked off stage, or will they do something like, "Red whited out"?

[Shiny Umbreon]

Ridiculous idea. Especially the stamina thing. And why isn't it "Red" rather than "Pokémon Trainer". And, can't Charizard fly? How would it get smashed?

The most funny part is that I saw a fake trailer with Red as a newcomer. I said "No one can believe this because it will NEVER happen."

[Shiny Umbreon]

Terrible idea, in my opinion. Charizard would be good, if it couldn't fly. Squirtle is just not correct, and, Ivysaur? I thought characters had to be biped.

[Sr E]

The most funny part is that I saw a fake trailer with Red as a newcomer. I said "No one can believe this because it will NEVER happen."

LOL, I guess Nintendo never ceases to amaze.

[Ausaudriel]

What do you think happens when his pokemon get KO'ed? Will he also be knocked off stage, or will they do something like, "Red whited out"?
Didn't it say the percentage is shared? I'd assume when you get KO'd as any one of them, you're out. As for Red, in the screenshot it looks like he stands in the background, I doubt he'd randomly go flying off of the stage with his Pokemon. Maybe he'll just sort of "*poof*". XD

[Archuleta Shuckle]

I think it's wonderful. People for years wanted to play as Charizard and Squirtle and now they get their wish. It's a nice way to incorperate more playable Pokemon without actually taking up spots on the Character roster.

Sadly, I do think Mewtwo will be the final smash, and that Jigglypuff and Lucario will be playable.

Pichu will obviously be cut.

[Shiny Umbreon]

The "Red whited out" idea is not that bad. I guess he could also disappear as Nana did if only Popo was KO'd.

How can he be in the background in, for example, Rumble Falls, the Lylat Cruise or Skyworld?

[Sr E]

Well, he'll probably just stand at the edge of the stage.

[Sr E]

I seriously hope Lucario's in the game somewhere, maybe as a hidden character, like how Mewtwo was.

[Shiny Umbreon]

I can assure you (the same way I assured Red wouldn't be in Brawl) that Lucario won't appear because it's from the 4th gen, while Brawl will focus on the 3rd generation. However, it's so popular they might include at least in the Poké Balls.

[Shiny Umbreon]

What about Rumble Falls? Is he going to climb along with the other characters?

[Sr E]

Maybe he'll float, or ride Charizard. But that also causes problems when he switches out to Charizard. I guess he could ride him while fighting, though.

[Extric]

What about Rumble Falls? Is he going to climb along with the other characters?

They might put him on some kind of cloud thing that moves up while he's in the background. Either that or you don't get the KO until you defeat the Pokemon, which would make that level hard because Red would be out in the very beginning of the match and if one of the Pokemon gets KO'ed or runs out of stamina then you might lose faster. That level would probably not be the ideal level for a Red player.

[Little_Miss_Ghost_Freak]

This sounds like an... interesting idea! I hope it plays as good as it sounds, being a Pokémon Trainer in a smash brother game would be really fun!

I wonder how it will work though! ^^

[Mikefox124]

His Costume better change regions. I want to have a Mudkip.

[HoundoomOfTheDarkness]

That's going to be my "fun" character. Right there. XD

Pikachu will be my killing machine, Red is my funner. Me and my brother have always been fans of the "weird" characters.

That update made me laugh 'till I cried.

EDIT: Oh yeah, it's not Red. It's the D/P male trainer.

[HoundoomOfTheDarkness]

Ummm... that's not Red.

IT'S THE MALE TRAINER FROM POKEMON D/P!!!

Okay. I'm done with the extreme emphasis.

But people... that's a fourth gen character. All arguments against Lucario have just died. I'll be back to laugh when Lucario is revealed. If he isn't, that means he's a hidden character, and I'll laugh when I unlock him. If he's not unlockable, I'll laugh because I'm insane. Hahahahahahahaha!

EDIT: Nevermind. It's Red. I'm still insane.

[Grant]

I really like the idea. I'm curious if Poke-Trainer will have any special rules about him in tournament play, and what tier he could possibly be in...

And I'm also curious as to how he'll keep along in the other stages... I'm betting he'll just jump around in the back as the stage moves, and he'll disappear like Nana if his Pokes get knocked out.

(Doubts Mewtwo for the final Smash; gambling along the lines of a team-up effect.)

[Shiny Umbreon]

His Costume better change regions. I want to have a Mudkip.

By looking at all the strange things that keep appearing here, it's probable that we'll see a Red clone: Brendan, with Blaziken, Grovyle and Mudkip.

Ummm... that's not Red.

IT'S THE MALE TRAINER FROM POKEMON D/P!!!

Okay. I'm done with the extreme emphasis.

But people... that's a fourth gen character. All arguments against Lucario have just died. I'll be back to laugh when Lucario is revealed. If he isn't, that means he's a hidden character, and I'll laugh when I unlock him. If he's not unlockable, I'll laugh because I'm insane. Hahahahahahahaha!

EDIT: Nevermind. It's Red. I'm still insane.

What are you talking about? It's Red? Well, I'll be here waiting for you to laugh because I'm 1000% sure Lucario won't appear in Brawl.

[Soma Peries]

Yeah, they won't put Lucario in. He has no significance in terms of being a popular icon like Pikachu, Pichu, or Jigglypuff, nor is he a legendary like Mewtwo. Chances are we'll get Mewtwo back, if anyone.

[Mikefox124]

Yeah, they won't put Lucario in. He has no significance in terms of being a popular icon like Pikachu, Pichu, or Jigglypuff, nor is he a legendary like Mewtwo. Chances are we'll get Mewtwo back, if anyone.

But he IS the first non-legendary to have a movie of his own. For all he know, he could possibly be one, or a replacement for Scyther.

[Ichida]

Lucario I could see happening, as it is a fighter by nature, but I'm not voting for or against it. If it happens, it happens.

Mewtwo will be back, there's no reason not to bring back everyone from Melee.

[Shiny Umbreon]

Lucario I could see happening, as it is a fighter by nature, but I'm not voting for or against it. If it happens, it happens.

Mewtwo will be back, there's no reason not to bring back everyone from Melee.

Yes, there is. There were some characters that people didn't like so they said they'd drop out some for Brawl. I guess the obvious example is the Ice Climbers, but who knows? The Dojo could give us a surprise soon. (Really, I hope they don't, one weird character is enough)

[Shiraishi]

I wonder how ivysaur/squirtle are supposed to recover when falling...I think vine whip will be used for grab/throw.

[Shiny Umbreon]

Squirtle could like Bowser (hiding in its shell and spinning) For Ivysaur, yeah, something like Vine Whip probably. Charizard may have something like Pit (to fly for a short time)

[fearow23]

I think the Final Smash would be either Hydro Cannon, Frenzy Plant, or Blast Burn (whoever is out). I wonder why I haven't seen anyone suggest that would be it...

[Jordan]

By looking at all the strange things that keep appearing here, it's probable that we'll see a Red clone: Brendan, with Blaziken, Grovyle and Mudkip.

If Brendan does appear, I am hoping for Swampert. He has one in his movie cameos, and maybe significance between Fire and Water will switch from Kanto to Hoenn. That is, if Brendan will appear. *prays*

Jordan.

[Grant]

*Hopes for one of the costume changes, Squirtle has his Squirtle Squad Sunglasses*

[Mikefox124]

I think the Final Smash would be either Hydro Cannon, Frenzy Plant, or Blast Burn (whoever is out). I wonder why I haven't seen anyone suggest that would be it...

I already know it is.

I hope they change regions for costume change. Mudkip, Spectile and Typlosion would rule.

[fearow23]

I already know it is.

I hope they change regions for costume change. Mudkip, Spectile and Typlosion would rule.

I've been hopping that too. They should have two outfits per region (one boy, one girl.)

[Ichida]

It's a costume change. They aren't going to change the entire rendering and moveset into different Pokemon...

[Delano]

might as well. i think lucario would make for a good smash character, infact, i think its perfect. they need to get rid of pichu i think, but they probably wont.

[gameplay]

Don't really care about Red(unless I'm good with him).

I just really want to use Yoshi, Mario, and Pikachu again. They're my faves.

To me.....
Chances:
----------
Lucario - small chance
Pichu - will definitely be cut! but i can see a new moveset!
......................................................Ok, I can't. WILL BE CUT.
Jigglypuff - she will definitely be back, since she was in ssb.
Mewtwo - a high possibility. there is honestly no reason to cut him off(in my opinion).

Oh yeah, I can see an event match where the player must defeat Red, Pikachu, and some other pokemon.

[Leon K. Fox]

I thought Pokemon got a fairly good amount of characters o.o considering the amount that had to make the cut

[Purfugly]

Don't really care about Red(unless I'm good with him).

I just really want to use Yoshi, Mario, and Pikachu again. They're my faves.

To me.....
Chances:
----------
Lucario - small chance
Pichu - will definitely be cut! but i can see a new moveset!
......................................................Ok, I can't. WILL BE CUT.
Jigglypuff - she will definitely be back, since she was in ssb.
Mewtwo - a high possibility. there is honestly no reason to cut him off(in my opinion).

Oh yeah, I can see an event match where the player must defeat Red, Pikachu, and some other pokemon.
Mewtwo was slow and pretty weak, not to mention he was just a slower version of Samus. Pichu can go die now. Jigglypuff = pwn. Lucario is just a complete piece of crap that needs to go to hell.

With the costumes, Hoenn Pokemon would be severely bad, as they are severely bad. Johto > Hoenn.

[Rebellious Treecko]

Pichu has a high chance of returning, so go cry about it.

[NessStar3000]

^ I agree, if you don't like as Pichu then don't play as him. If you're just annoyed by Pichu being in the game then that's too bad.

One more thing I've notice in this thread, some of the reasons why people don't think Lucario won't be in the game because they hate the pokemon, which really isn't fair for the votings. Oh well, this is just an unofficial poll either way.

[Mikefox124]

I play Pichu alot, and I'm good at him. XD

I really hope Buizel gets an apparence.

[NessStar3000]

I play Pichu alot, and I'm good at him. XD

I really hope Buizel gets an apparence.

I have a hunch that Buizel will make some kind of appearence in the game.

[The Real AAA]

Pichu has a high chance of returning, so go cry about it.

oh god Pichu has a chance to be in it? he was useless be4 and he will be useless agian!

I want Mewtwo to return to the game, I was always good with him

[NessStar3000]

oh god Pichu has a chance to be in it? he was useless be4 and he will be useless agian!

I want Mewtwo to return to the game, I was always good with him

I don't think they'll remove him out the game. If they don't remove Pichu, then they will most likely leave Mewtwo.

[Grant]

Even though I know it's a possibility, I still can't imagine any of the characters being cut. They all have such huge followings in the competitive world, some for the fact that they are worthless (Pichu & Mewtwo)... However, of the two, Pichu is probably more likely to get cut.

[Leon K. Fox]

Yes, Buizel is one I wanna be playable, or at least as an Assist Trophy or Pokeball

But I'm sure you could tell I'd want Buizel...

[Ausaudriel]

Yes, Buizel is one I wanna be playable, or at least as an Assist Trophy or Pokeball

But I'm sure you could tell I'd want Buizel...
I.. highly doubt Buizel will be a playable character. O_o Just seems far too random a selection to make it a full-blown playable character.

Out of curiosity, what kind of moves would you like/expect it to have if it DID make the cut?

[NessStar3000]

I.. highly doubt Buizel will be a playable character. O_o Just seems far too random a selection to make it a full-blown playable character.

Out of curiosity, what kind of moves would you like/expect it to have if it DID make the cut?


If your post was a reply to mine, I meant making an appearence in the game as a pokeball, trophie, stickers, or something.

[Leon K. Fox]

meh, to each his own but I think it'd be pretty cool myself, but like as I said

"or at least as an Assist Trophy or Pokeball"

He needs to make some kind of apperance, seriously

[Ausaudriel]

If your post was a reply to mine, I meant making an appearence in the game as a pokeball, trophie, stickers, or something.
My post was in reply to Leon Prower.

[~Daisuke~]

Guys they just made a new Pokemon Stadium stage and this one has Flying,Ice,Ground,and Electric Field changes. By the way for Pokemon trainer there will be a higly likely change for costume changes Pokemon Trainer's squirtle will have glasses.

[Gyoka]

Now munchlax is part of the game. That gives hope for 4th gen hopefuls in Brawl. Lucario? (I doubt it though)

[Soma Peries]

By the way for Pokemon trainer there will be a higly likely change for costume changes Pokemon Trainer's squirtle will have glasses.

And where's your source for that? Please don't say things like that if you have no solid proof. =/

Lucario won't be in it, I can guarantee it. You people are naive if you think he's going to get in because he's a 4th gen fighting Pokemon focused on in one movie.

[NessStar3000]

Lucario won't be in it, I can guarantee it. You people are naive if you think he's going to get in because he's a 4th gen fighting Pokemon focused on in one movie.

You sure said that in the nicest way possible... x_x

All I have to say is that if he was to be a playable character, I would fine that awesome, but if he isn't, well I wouldn't mind much because I'm a game creator myself.

[Shiny Umbreon]

Now munchlax is part of the game. That gives hope for 4th gen hopefuls in Brawl. Lucario? (I doubt it though)
Wrong. Munchlax did appear in games before the 4th gen, so it doesn't really count.

[Rebellious Treecko]

It might not be confirmed yet, but I still hope for other D/P Pokemon to appear in Brawl.

Although I'm not sure if the game would have enough memory to have that many. >.>

[Dragonzilla]

I doubt it, but if he was his moves would probably be

Up b= sky uppercut
B=aura sphere
>B=force palm
Down B= counter/detect

final smash:
Close combat
^ that would be kewl^

[~Daisuke~]

Down B could be Counter/Detect.

[Dragonzilla]

Down B could be Counter/Detect.

ooh nice idea i'll change my post

[Pikachu2007]

Hmmm... Now that Munchlax is a Pokemball Pokemnon now, what else do you guys think will be in Pokeballs and what attacks will they use? Here are my ideas:

So far:

Goldeen - Splash
Chikorita - Razor Leaf
Groudon - probably Eruption
Attack Deoxys - Hyper Beam
Munchlax - Stockpile (I think)


My ideas:

Pigeot - Whirlwind
Ekans or Arbok - Poison Fang
Clefairy - Metronome
Meowth - Fury Swipes or Payday like in the original SSB.
Arcanine - Extremespeed or Flamethrower
Magnemite - gathers other Magnemite (or Magneton) and use Thunder Wave
Lickitung - Slam
Koffing or Weeking - Smokescreen
Chansey or Blissey - Softboiled (the egg move that they use)
Staryu or Starmie - Swift
Ditto - Transforms into a random character and helps you battle one of your enemies for a while.
Vaporeon - Water Gun
Jolteon - Pin Missile
Flareon - Flamethrower
Snorlax - Body Slam
Articuno - Blizzard
Zapdos - Thunder
Moltres - Sky Attack
Mew - Nothing
Quilava - Flamethrower
Feraligatr - Hydro Pump
Togepi - Metronome
Bellossom - Sleep Powder
Azurill or Marill - Tackle
Aipom - Grabs items and chunks them at enemies or Swift
Espeon - Psybeam
Umbreon - Faint Attack
Unown- Swarm
Wynaut or Wobbuffet - Counter
Steelix - Rock Throw
Scizor - Slash
Mantyke or Mantine - Surf
Donphan - Rollout
Smeargle - Sketches random items
Raikou - Spark
Entei - Eruption
Suicune - Icy Wind
Lugia - Aeroblast
Ho-oh - Sacred Fire
Celebi - Nothing
Treecko - Slam
Blaziken - Sky Uppercut
Marshtomp - Mud Bomb
Swellow - Aerial Ace
Slakoth - Nothing. Just sleeps.
Mawile - Iron Head
Electrike - Spark
Plusle - Spark
Minun - Spark
Torkoal - Smokescreen
Chimecho - Sing
Regirock - Rock Throw
Regice - Blizzard
Registeel - Metal Claw
Latias - Psychic
Latios - Dragon Claw
Kyogre - Water Spout
Rayquazza - Outrage
Jirachi - Doom Desire


I'll post 4th gens later.

[Hideki~kun]

There definatley needs to be more Pokémon in SSB. I think Lucario would be perfect for SSBB.

[Wicked Weavile]

Super Smash Bros. Brawl is the latest installment of the Super Smash Bros. series. Developed by HAL Laboratories, Super Smash Bros. Brawl is set to release in the United States on December 3rd, 2007. As of now, not every tidbit of information is known about Super Smash Bros. Brawl. However, one of the head developers, Masahiro Sakurai, is updating the Super Smash Bros. Dojo, the official Super Smash Bros. website, with new details every Monday through Friday. However, the time is set as it is taken more of a blog style rather than a traditional website. So he updates in each language at around 5:00pm, JST (?). That would mean our updates come at 12:00 am (PST), 2:00 am (CST), and 3:00 am (EST). However, this does not mean he will immediately update the website. On certain occasions, he updates the website an hour or two later. That means something big might be uploaded.

When the update time comes around, generally one new piece of information will be added. Once in awhile two new pieces of information will be added. The following is a list of updates (Eng. USA)...
---Characters:New and confirmed characters include:
-Meta Knight
-Pit.
-Zero Suit Samus (Situational).
-Wario.
-Snake (From the Metal Gear Solid series. 3rd Party Character).
-Ike.
-Pokémon Trainer.
-Diddy Kong.
---How To Play.
-This is not limited to what you already know by playing past SSB games! Like new techniques!
---Game Modes.
-This includes Adventure Mode!
---Stages.
-Battlefield
-Delfino Plaza
-Yoshi's Island
-Lylat Cruise
-Bridge of Eldin
-Smashville
-Rumble Falls
-Skyworld
-Castle Siege
-Wario Ware
-Pokemon Stadium 2
-Battleship Halberd
---Items.
--PokéBall Pokémon.
-Deoxys
-Groudon
-Munchlax
--Super New! Assist Trophy Characters!
-Samurai Goroh
-Dr. Wright
-Knuckle Joe
-Devil
-Andross
-Lyn
---Music.
---Notices.
-Small minute updates.

There is a lot you can learn from the website!

-Absolutely no discussion on characters you think should be in Super Smash Bros. Brawl. This especially applies for 3rd Party Characters. 3rd Party characters are Sonic or Mega Man.
-Stick to talking about things listed on the Super Smash Bros. Dojo or credible sources (Gaming Magazines, online web sites like IGN or GameSpot). Do not, I repeat, do not talk about rumors on forums.
-Do not create your own character roster.
-Do not post fake or photoshopped images of SSBB.
-Only believe photos/movies from the Super Smash Bros. Dojo or any credible websites. Like Nintendo.
-If you are excited about an update (or even the game), do not just say so. Explain why you like it. Be sure that if you speaking in very broad terms, go into a deeper explanation. Each post can create a new topic of discussion if you put your mind to it. It is okay to post small details someone might have forgotten or debatable questions. The same goes if you hate an update.
-Do not flame someone’s opinion, especially a moderator’s opinion.
-If you discover your post has been deleted, do not repost it.

All of this is from Smashbros.com.

[Rebellious Treecko]

What if Zangoose and Seviper were both Pokeball Pokemon?
Zangoose would use Slash, and Seviper would use Poison Tail.

However, if the two Pokemon were on the screen at the same time...they would start attacking eachother, damaging players caught in the fray. :3

I thought of that a long time ago...

[HoundoomOfTheDarkness]

At last... an SSB game with wi-fi... Now, I can't wait for December. I've always had to just play with computers or my little brother. Not that I don't expect cheaters... like in pretty much every DS wi-fi game. However, I digress. Can't wait to play this game...

I'll see you guys on the battlefield! (spins Wii Remote and puts in pocket cowboy style)

Hmmm... Pokeball Pokemon? They could replace Snorlax... WITH WAILORD!!!

[Gilgαmesh]

What if Zangoose and Seviper were both Pokeball Pokemon?
Zangoose would use Slash, and Seviper would use Poison Tail.

However, if the two Pokemon were on the screen at the same time...they would start attacking eachother, damaging players caught in the fray. :3

I thought of that a long time ago...

Slash fails for Zangoose, seriously. D: I would much perfer Crush Claw, and I think that's more of it's specialty than slash.

And the famed Poison Tail for Seviper. Not bad, really.

Hmmm... Pokeball Pokemon? They could replace Snorlax... WITH WAILORD!!!

...That would be funny as heck. XD While Snorlax covers a portion of the stage, Wailord can cover the whole dang thing.


As for other pokeball pokemon, Zapdos has to make a comeback, this time with some better moves and stuff. His electricity raising the opponent's percentage in melee was awesome, but I admit he could do better.

And latley I've been thinking plainly. Like Torterra, doing Earthquake, Empoleon doing Hydro Pump, and Infernape using the move we all love, Close Combat.

I just hope there's at least Sinnoh pokemon in the game, as well as a few Hoenn.

[TRIFORCE89]

Smash is WiFi in case you haven't checked the blog today. :o

[NessStar3000]

It was very conspicuous that Brawl is going to have features dealing with Wi-Fi. It's going to be pretty awesome though, battles against other SSB fans.

[Pikachu2007]

Now Piplup's a Pokeball Pokemon.
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/items/mball/images/mball05/mball05_070920a.jpg
Here are the details: Piplup uses Surf and whoever is in the way gets washed off the stage! Cool idea, Mr. Masahiro Sakurai! :) :) :)
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/items/mball/images/mball05/mball05_070920b.jpghttp://www.smashbros.com/en_us/items/mball/images/mball05/mball05_070920c.jpghttp://www.smashbros.com/en_us/items/mball/images/mball05/mball05_070920d.jpg
After all, Diamond and Pearl was out for at least a year in Japan before SSBB will. That said, here are my 4th generation Pokeball ideas:

Turtwig - Razor Leaf or Bite
Torterra - Earthquake
Monferno - Flame Wheel
Pachirisu - Spark
Buizel - Aqua Jet
Buneary - Bounce
Gabite - Dragon Claw
Lucario (if not a character) - Aura Sphere
Croagunk - Poison Jab
Weavile - Ice Punch or Night Slash
Porygon-Z - Tackle or Tri-Attack
Uxie - Zen Headbutt
Mesprit - Psychic
Azelf - Shadow Ball or Psychic
Dialga - Roar of Time
Palkia - Spatial Trend
Darkrai - Dark Void
Shaymin - Seed Flare
Arceus - Judgement


Characters (assuming more will come):


Jigglypuff
Mewtwo (if it makes it back. I hope it does!)
Pichu (I hope it will come back!)
Kecleon
Buneary
Lucario (A good choice. Riolu may also work.)

[TwiliteReflektion]

Shaymin and Arceus won't be in the game. Period.

If there's Groudon as a Pokeball Pokemon, then I think Kyogre will also be one. Like how they had Lugia/Ho-Oh.

If they had Gible, I think Draco Meteor would be cool.

[The Real AAA]

Maybe Monferno flame wheel sounds possible

[MasterDookie]

Most likely, IMO. he's probably going to be in it.

[HoundoomOfTheDarkness]

Yep. Now that Piplup's a Pokeball Pokemon, there is no logical barrier against Lucario as a character.

*user walks away, laughing maniacally in reference to a previous post that he made but didn't quote here*

[Pikachu2007]

Well, now the Pokemon Trainer's Final Smash has been revieled. It's called Triple Finish and here's how it works:
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/pokemon_trainer/pokemon_trainer_070927a.jpg
Any one of them can grab a Smash Ball.
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/pokemon_trainer/pokemon_trainer_070927b.jpg
All three come out at once and...
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/pokemon_trainer/pokemon_trainer_070927c.jpghttp://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/pokemon_trainer/pokemon_trainer_070927d.jpg
All of them use thier strongest attacks at once! Squirtle uses Hydro Pump, Charizard has Fire Blast, and Ivysaur has SolarBeam. And the closer your foes are to the attack, the more damage will be caused. How cool is that!?

[Bobby]

That's a pretty awesome attack. The only thing I'm hoping for is that they don't underrate it too much. They probably won't apply the damage power that it gives out in the game, but it should do a decent amount of damage.

As for PokeBall Pokemon ideas; I like the Darkrai one. It would be like Jigglypuff in a way, but it can put them to sleep for a bit longer.

[HoundoomOfTheDarkness]

Hehehe... it's like Tri Attack to the extreme.

I just looked at the page for Pokemon Trainer's special moves and realized how much the water graphics have been improved since Melee. Obviously, that's what allows them to give Piplup Surf, and even to make Squirtle a playable character.

I can't wait for this game. *randomly punches a calendar* It's my Halo 3.

[NessStar3000]

Yeah, the updates just get more awesome each time. Yay for Piplup too and goodbye to the not-adding-sinnoh-pokemon theory. ^_^

Now the chances of adding Lucario is more likely than before.

I slam a sticky note onto my calender to help me recall the release of Brawl, "This will be my Halo 3 too!"

[Pikachu2007]

Me too. It's great to see that that "No Sinnoh-Pokemon in Brawl" theory seems to be not true!

What if Zangoose and Seviper were both Pokeball Pokemon?
Zangoose would use Slash, and Seviper would use Poison Tail.

However, if the two Pokemon were on the screen at the same time...they would start attacking eachother, damaging players caught in the fray. :3

I thought of that a long time ago...
BBRRRILLIANT!!! Why didn't I think of that? Good call, man! :) :)

@Aeon: Thanks. I'm glad you like the Darkrai idea. :)

EDITED BY TRIFORCE89Please do not double post. I edited your two posts together~

[Pikachu2007]

Sorry For the long wait, but what's new of SSBB, in case you didn't know, is that Kyogre and Torchic are now Pokeball Pokemon. Kyogre jumps over the stage and uses Hydro Pump on the players. Torchic seems to use Fie Blast on foes as well.

EDIT 10/17: Meowth is now a Pokeball Pokemon.
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/items/mball/images/mball06/mball06_071017a.jpg
Like my prediction stated, it uses Pay Day, tossing coins at foes. Here's some pics:
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/items/mball/images/mball06/mball06_071017b.jpghttp://www.smashbros.com/en_us/items/mball/images/mball06/mball06_071017c.jpghttp://www.smashbros.com/en_us/items/mball/images/mball06/mball06_071017d.jpg

I'll be back with more updates as soon as they come out! :)

This just in: the newest Pokemon to make an a ppearance is Rayquazza. It's in the new video that the site just released.

Don't make multiple posts consecutively. I put your other post in here. TRIFORCE89~