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Knight of Three
August 2nd, 2007, 06:32 PM
Help my Torkoal:

Torkoal-???
Trait-White Smoke
Impish Nature (+Def -Sp.Attk)
EV's-252 HP/Attk 126/126 Def
-Curse
-Gyro Ball
-Eartquake
-Rapid Spin/???

What do you guys think?I also need one more Special Sweeper in my team.

Samson
August 2nd, 2007, 09:10 PM
Torkoal @ Leftovers/Shuca Berry
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
252 HP/232 DEF/24 SP ATK
-Flamethrower/Overheat
-Explosion
-Substitute
-Will-O-Wisp

Knight of Three
August 4th, 2007, 01:45 AM
Torkoal @ Leftovers/Shuca Berry
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
252 HP/232 DEF/24 SP ATK
-Flamethrower/Overheat
-Explosion
-Substitute
-Will-O-WispHow do I use this?And people I need a Special Sweeper, not Pory-Z, he's already in.

Kayashi
August 4th, 2007, 01:48 AM
Grass types go very well with Fire types and can cover a lot of ground.

A fast-acting grass type would do.

Horo
August 4th, 2007, 01:54 AM
I think Alakazam can be a nice special sweeper.

Nature Modest / Timid

Modest 252 Sp Atk/ 252 Speed / 4 Hp
Timid 252 Sp Atk/ 252 Speed / 4 Hp

Moveset

Focus Blast Remove dark pokemons
Phsycic Nice STAB
Shadow Ball Take out other phsycic
Calm Mind/Grassknot/Recover Extra moves

Knight of Three
August 4th, 2007, 01:57 AM
Grass types go very well with Fire types and can cover a lot of ground.

A fast-acting grass type would do.Timid Meganium?:
Meganium @???
Timid Nature
Ev's:Sp Atk 127/Def 127/Sp Def 127/Spd 127/
Aromatheraphy
Giga Drain/Energy Ball
Synthesis
HP[Ice]


Originally Posted by Horo
I think Alakazam can be a nice special sweeper.

Nature Modest / Timid

Modest 252 Sp Atk/ 252 Speed / 4 Hp
Timid 252 Sp Atk/ 252 Speed / 4 Hp

Moveset

Focus Blast Remove dark pokemons
Phsycic Nice STAB
Shadow Ball Take out other phsycic
Calm Mind/Grassknot/Recover Extra moves
Energy Ball or T-bolt could do, but I don't really like using OU's, do you think my Torky could be a physical wall?

Knight of Three
August 4th, 2007, 02:45 AM
Bump, people help me please.

Jordan
August 4th, 2007, 03:02 AM
Torkoal @ Leftovers
Relaxed
252 HP, 252 Defense, 6 Special Defense
-Curse
-Gyro Ball
-Eruption
-Rest/Earthquake

How about Mismagius for a Sp. Sweeper?

Mismagius @ ????
Modest
252 Sp. Attack, 252 Speed, 6 Sp. Defense
-Energy Ball/Magical Leaf
-Thunder Bolt/Charge Beam (I'd recommend Charge Beam for Sp. Attack Boost)
-Ominous Wind/Shadow Ball/Dark Pulse
-Psychic/Calm Mind

Samson
August 4th, 2007, 05:53 AM
How do I use this?And people I need a Special Sweeper, not Pory-Z, he's already in.

you switch it in to take a physical hit (preferably one that's not Super Effective) or bring it in against a steel type like Bronzong or Skarmory who otherwise have no chance against it, and they will obviously switch out. so, you use substitute, and if what they switch in is a physical sweeper, you use will-o-wisp to cut their attack. if it is a bulky water (that you fear you won't be able to take out) or something like blissey, then use explosion (if you're confident of it). if they switch in a special sweeper that takes normal damage from flamethrower/overheat, then use it and switch out after they break your sub.

so basically the strategy is: switch it in to make your opponent switch out and use substitute to protect it from harm, and to give it a free chance to inflict status, explode, or cause quick damage.



oh and if you already have porygon-z for a special sweeper, then that's enough. it's not really helpful to have more than one full special or physical sweeper. if you need something that uses special moves, then go for a mixed sweeper. that way, you aren't completely walled.

Knight of Three
August 5th, 2007, 03:30 AM
you switch it in to take a physical hit (preferably one that's not Super Effective) or bring it in against a steel type like Bronzong or Skarmory who otherwise have no chance against it, and they will obviously switch out. so, you use substitute, and if what they switch in is a physical sweeper, you use will-o-wisp to cut their attack. if it is a bulky water (that you fear you won't be able to take out) or something like blissey, then use explosion (if you're confident of it). if they switch in a special sweeper that takes normal damage from flamethrower/overheat, then use it and switch out after they break your sub.

so basically the strategy is: switch it in to make your opponent switch out and use substitute to protect it from harm, and to give it a free chance to inflict status, explode, or cause quick damage.



oh and if you already have porygon-z for a special sweeper, then that's enough. it's not really helpful to have more than one full special or physical sweeper. if you need something that uses special moves, then go for a mixed sweeper. that way, you aren't completely walled.Lucario can work as a mixed ,can he?

Samson
August 5th, 2007, 05:09 PM
yes he can. good luck with your pokes.