Why I hate BW/BW...
For those of you who saw my second to last blog entry (Or was it third? ¬.¬), some of you asked why I hated BW/BW so much while many of you really liked them. As I mentioned, I would tell my entire experience with Pokemon. Don't worry though, I won't go out all out with a wall of text, but bare with me with what I do manage to brush out ¬.¬
So I was 5 years old when I started watching the anime. I was about a year late but yeah, I was in love with it. Other kids watched Barney and Teletubbies, but not me. I was strictly Pokemon (And, well, to be honest it was Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh! :/ Though Pokemon dominated for sure). I always wanted the Pokemon games, but my first was Pokemon Silver. I played it over and over again, until I bought Pokemon Blue Version and played that over and over again as well. Later on, my brother bought Gold and Red Versions (He does it on purpose, he always chooses the exact opposite games as I do >_>). So I played those two too. I was still watching the Pokemon Anime too! When Ruby and Sapphire came out, I bought Ruby Version and played it like a million times. I reached a point where in the summer, I would totally finish the game every day (As in once a day ;O). Then I bought Emerald Version and I fell in love once more, and played that like a gazillion times. However, I quit on the anime after like 4 episodes of the Advanced Arc. Later I bought Diamond, then Platinum, then Soul Silver. I also played my brother's Heart Gold after he was done with it :/
Theeeeen, I bought White Version, and now I'm playing Black 2. To be honest, the only reason I started playing them was because I didn't want to miss out on a Pokemon game ¬.¬. Also, a while back, I started catching up on the anime. I'm currently in the BW: Rival Destinies Season. My experience with Pokemon is like, so deep it's unbelievable. I play the games, spin-offs, card games (Right now I only collect them xD), I used to hack Pokemon, I'm engaged in Pokemon forumming, I look up all sorts of Fakemon just out of curiousity. I even create my own Pokemon Storylines sometimes and roleplay in my head (Yeah I know, so retarded ¬.¬).
Up till today, Pokemon has been a part of me. It helped me get through my teenage period, being on PC has developed my personality and inspired me to learn graphics design, web design, and develop my artistic and writing skills. I can't talk enough about how much Pokemon has changed me and played a role in forming me. But when BW came, I hit a wall. Literally. Like I hit my head against a wall. ¬.¬
So the names and bow arts were released. I liked them, and I was excited to see where that would take the anime and games alike. Then the Zekrom and Reshiram arts were released. At first, I loved them! Gradually, I started realising they looked more like Digimon :/ I thought maybe Pokemon would do good of itself with the other Pokemon and features. Then, the Unova/Isshu map was released. So I hit the link and saw the map. I thought to myself: "I must've clicked the wrong link haha". So I hit back and went to the page again. This was my reaction: O_O
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE F***ING KIDDING ME! ¬.¬ ¬.¬ ¬.¬ ¬.¬
You call this, this, THIS, a Pokemon region map? O_O ._. o.O
I DON'T F***ING APPROVE OF THIS S***.
Explanation: Previous regions were original, natural, beautiful. I would look at the map at the beginning of each generation, when the map was released, and I'd be in love. It looked so exciting and intriguing. But I mean, seriously, what in hell is this crap supposed to be? I mean like, it looks more like a railroad schematic than a map ¬.¬
FFS
Beyond that, I waited. I waited for anything to show me that this generation wasn't as bad as I thought. Then, the remaining Pokemon art started being released. My reaction once again was: WTF. LIKE, WTF! *facepalm*
*headdesk*
*facewall*
GAH!
Like come on, seriously, what the hell is this supposed to be, Digimon breeding with Yu-Gi-Oh? Where is the originality? The beauty? Where is the spark I used to get the second I saw the site of the new Pokemon. I was devastated. I have to be honest, some of them are pretty original and nice. Emolga, the starters (Kinda-ish), the monkey thing trio, and a few others. Regardless, please don't give me that stuff about the Pokemon being creative. Trust me, they're not. You know just as much as I do. Like, why the hell did they have to make 156 Pokemon? That's the most ever in any generation, and it was pointless. All it really did was give them more room to make pointless, ugly, stupid and unoriginal Pokemon. WHAT IN HELL IS SAWK? AND THROH FOR THAT MATTER? I mean, F***. *facepalm*
Then, what is this ice cream trio thing supposed to be? Like, ok, I can understand maybe it's a coincidence that they are ice on a cone shaped object. I can try to convince myself that. But then comes their final stage. WHY IN HELL DOES IT HAVE STRAWS? >_>
Oh ffs. Then there's Maloetta. To be honest, if I picked up a stranger from the street, threw a wig on it and some make-up. Gave it some sort of vocal implant. I would have Maloetta! \o/
Oh ffs. I would rather burn to death than look at that piece of crap excuse of a Pokemon. The above are just a few examples of other totally illogical and stupid Pokemon.
That's enough of that, let's get to the anime. So Brock. Yes Brock. I know you've heard this a couple million times before, but I'll say it once more. Brock has been with use for four arcs. Over 10 years. To me and many other Pokemon fans, Brock was as much a main character as Ash ever was. Sometimes more. His sarcastic personality was the best thing to ever happen to the anime. Oh God, then as you know, he was removed. I mean like, why? You want a fresh start? Good, f***ing replace Ash too... It's totally illogical to replace one of them and not both, even if you want a fresh start. I cried, yes cried, when Brock left after Hoenn, and then after DP. :c :c :c
Now about the female companions. Misty was great, May better, Dawn the best <3 <3 They were full of character, respectable, funny, nice, just great! Perfect. That is all. I was sad when Misty left, same for May. But for dawn, I cried. Hers was the best personality and character in the anime. PERIOD.
Ok ok, I can understand that either way, she was going to leave. It's tradition right. But can someone explain to me what the hell Iris is supposed to be?
What is with that ugly and totally unreasonable hair-do? What's with the ugly ass clothe too? She is the most arrogant, most annoying character ever. Her personality stinks like a skunk and her presence is ruining the anime for me. Could they not have come up with a more subtle character? Possibly something, ANYTHING, more original?
:c :c :c
Finally, Ash/Pikachu resetting. I mean like, Ash getting a tad bit rusty after a break is understandable if they want to make it friendlier to newer audiences, but how in hell, does one forget that they need to battle a Pokemon before attempting to catch it? ¬.¬ How does he forget all of his previous skills in improvising... etc. I mean the dude defeated two, TWO, of the Tobias' Legendary Pokemon in the Lily Cove Valley Pokemon League Conference. TWW LEGENDARY POKEMON FOR GOD'S SAKE.
And how about Pikachu resetting? Losing to Snivy was ok, considering Pikachu was messed up at the time, but losing to Panpour? Ok, what the f***? Oh God.
Like, not only does it have a type advantage, but Pikachu is one of the strongest Pokemon in the anime. The thing friggin defeated a Latios... With a type disadvantage nonetheless. HOW CAN IT LOSE TO A PANPOUR? >_>_>_>_>_>
[Sigh]
I shall rest my case. BW/BW as a whole, totally overkilled in attempting to make the anime friendlier to newer viewers. It ruined so many of the traditional aspects that we all loved about Pokemon. Change is good, but not this much :c
BW/BW has received so much criticism that it's not even funny. They have destroyed Pokemon for me and many others out there. You might not understand if Pokemon is not as big a part of your life as it is mine. But I CANNOT stand this crap.
Though, despite all this, I must admit that Cilan is brilliant. The character is excellent and amazing and I love him (No homo). He's probably the only reason I'm even watching the anime any more.
Pedro out~
EDIT: One last thing I forgot to mention. Why did GF have to make sequels to BW? I can accept a sequel, but not two. That's totally unreasonable. Totally illogical. And completely pointless. Kthnxbye.
So I was 5 years old when I started watching the anime. I was about a year late but yeah, I was in love with it. Other kids watched Barney and Teletubbies, but not me. I was strictly Pokemon (And, well, to be honest it was Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh! :/ Though Pokemon dominated for sure). I always wanted the Pokemon games, but my first was Pokemon Silver. I played it over and over again, until I bought Pokemon Blue Version and played that over and over again as well. Later on, my brother bought Gold and Red Versions (He does it on purpose, he always chooses the exact opposite games as I do >_>). So I played those two too. I was still watching the Pokemon Anime too! When Ruby and Sapphire came out, I bought Ruby Version and played it like a million times. I reached a point where in the summer, I would totally finish the game every day (As in once a day ;O). Then I bought Emerald Version and I fell in love once more, and played that like a gazillion times. However, I quit on the anime after like 4 episodes of the Advanced Arc. Later I bought Diamond, then Platinum, then Soul Silver. I also played my brother's Heart Gold after he was done with it :/
Theeeeen, I bought White Version, and now I'm playing Black 2. To be honest, the only reason I started playing them was because I didn't want to miss out on a Pokemon game ¬.¬. Also, a while back, I started catching up on the anime. I'm currently in the BW: Rival Destinies Season. My experience with Pokemon is like, so deep it's unbelievable. I play the games, spin-offs, card games (Right now I only collect them xD), I used to hack Pokemon, I'm engaged in Pokemon forumming, I look up all sorts of Fakemon just out of curiousity. I even create my own Pokemon Storylines sometimes and roleplay in my head (Yeah I know, so retarded ¬.¬).
Up till today, Pokemon has been a part of me. It helped me get through my teenage period, being on PC has developed my personality and inspired me to learn graphics design, web design, and develop my artistic and writing skills. I can't talk enough about how much Pokemon has changed me and played a role in forming me. But when BW came, I hit a wall. Literally. Like I hit my head against a wall. ¬.¬
So the names and bow arts were released. I liked them, and I was excited to see where that would take the anime and games alike. Then the Zekrom and Reshiram arts were released. At first, I loved them! Gradually, I started realising they looked more like Digimon :/ I thought maybe Pokemon would do good of itself with the other Pokemon and features. Then, the Unova/Isshu map was released. So I hit the link and saw the map. I thought to myself: "I must've clicked the wrong link haha". So I hit back and went to the page again. This was my reaction: O_O
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE F***ING KIDDING ME! ¬.¬ ¬.¬ ¬.¬ ¬.¬
You call this, this, THIS, a Pokemon region map? O_O ._. o.O
I DON'T F***ING APPROVE OF THIS S***.
Explanation: Previous regions were original, natural, beautiful. I would look at the map at the beginning of each generation, when the map was released, and I'd be in love. It looked so exciting and intriguing. But I mean, seriously, what in hell is this crap supposed to be? I mean like, it looks more like a railroad schematic than a map ¬.¬
FFS
Beyond that, I waited. I waited for anything to show me that this generation wasn't as bad as I thought. Then, the remaining Pokemon art started being released. My reaction once again was: WTF. LIKE, WTF! *facepalm*
*headdesk*
*facewall*
GAH!
Like come on, seriously, what the hell is this supposed to be, Digimon breeding with Yu-Gi-Oh? Where is the originality? The beauty? Where is the spark I used to get the second I saw the site of the new Pokemon. I was devastated. I have to be honest, some of them are pretty original and nice. Emolga, the starters (Kinda-ish), the monkey thing trio, and a few others. Regardless, please don't give me that stuff about the Pokemon being creative. Trust me, they're not. You know just as much as I do. Like, why the hell did they have to make 156 Pokemon? That's the most ever in any generation, and it was pointless. All it really did was give them more room to make pointless, ugly, stupid and unoriginal Pokemon. WHAT IN HELL IS SAWK? AND THROH FOR THAT MATTER? I mean, F***. *facepalm*
Then, what is this ice cream trio thing supposed to be? Like, ok, I can understand maybe it's a coincidence that they are ice on a cone shaped object. I can try to convince myself that. But then comes their final stage. WHY IN HELL DOES IT HAVE STRAWS? >_>
Oh ffs. Then there's Maloetta. To be honest, if I picked up a stranger from the street, threw a wig on it and some make-up. Gave it some sort of vocal implant. I would have Maloetta! \o/
Oh ffs. I would rather burn to death than look at that piece of crap excuse of a Pokemon. The above are just a few examples of other totally illogical and stupid Pokemon.
That's enough of that, let's get to the anime. So Brock. Yes Brock. I know you've heard this a couple million times before, but I'll say it once more. Brock has been with use for four arcs. Over 10 years. To me and many other Pokemon fans, Brock was as much a main character as Ash ever was. Sometimes more. His sarcastic personality was the best thing to ever happen to the anime. Oh God, then as you know, he was removed. I mean like, why? You want a fresh start? Good, f***ing replace Ash too... It's totally illogical to replace one of them and not both, even if you want a fresh start. I cried, yes cried, when Brock left after Hoenn, and then after DP. :c :c :c
Now about the female companions. Misty was great, May better, Dawn the best <3 <3 They were full of character, respectable, funny, nice, just great! Perfect. That is all. I was sad when Misty left, same for May. But for dawn, I cried. Hers was the best personality and character in the anime. PERIOD.
Ok ok, I can understand that either way, she was going to leave. It's tradition right. But can someone explain to me what the hell Iris is supposed to be?
What is with that ugly and totally unreasonable hair-do? What's with the ugly ass clothe too? She is the most arrogant, most annoying character ever. Her personality stinks like a skunk and her presence is ruining the anime for me. Could they not have come up with a more subtle character? Possibly something, ANYTHING, more original?
:c :c :c
Finally, Ash/Pikachu resetting. I mean like, Ash getting a tad bit rusty after a break is understandable if they want to make it friendlier to newer audiences, but how in hell, does one forget that they need to battle a Pokemon before attempting to catch it? ¬.¬ How does he forget all of his previous skills in improvising... etc. I mean the dude defeated two, TWO, of the Tobias' Legendary Pokemon in the Lily Cove Valley Pokemon League Conference. TWW LEGENDARY POKEMON FOR GOD'S SAKE.
And how about Pikachu resetting? Losing to Snivy was ok, considering Pikachu was messed up at the time, but losing to Panpour? Ok, what the f***? Oh God.
Like, not only does it have a type advantage, but Pikachu is one of the strongest Pokemon in the anime. The thing friggin defeated a Latios... With a type disadvantage nonetheless. HOW CAN IT LOSE TO A PANPOUR? >_>_>_>_>_>
[Sigh]
I shall rest my case. BW/BW as a whole, totally overkilled in attempting to make the anime friendlier to newer viewers. It ruined so many of the traditional aspects that we all loved about Pokemon. Change is good, but not this much :c
BW/BW has received so much criticism that it's not even funny. They have destroyed Pokemon for me and many others out there. You might not understand if Pokemon is not as big a part of your life as it is mine. But I CANNOT stand this crap.
Though, despite all this, I must admit that Cilan is brilliant. The character is excellent and amazing and I love him (No homo). He's probably the only reason I'm even watching the anime any more.
Pedro out~
EDIT: One last thing I forgot to mention. Why did GF have to make sequels to BW? I can accept a sequel, but not two. That's totally unreasonable. Totally illogical. And completely pointless. Kthnxbye.
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A Pokémon is a Pocket MONSTER. The Pokémon in previous gens were far too cutesy and basic to be monsters...Gen V look uglier, scarier and the ideas between them are far more creative.
These are what Pokémon should look like.
People only dislike them because they're not the originals and people are all like "I only play Pokémon Red and Blue because that was before Pokémon was cool and we had all this 'Pokémon internet' stuff" so they'll look cooler for playing the originals...Posted November 6th, 2012 at 10:52 AM by Fireworks 
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That monster argument is invalid. Why did they have to wait till generation 5 to make them ugly ass monsters? Were they intentionally trying to make use used to the original format of Pokemon? Just so they could shove it in our faces? :/
And no, everything before generation 5 was beautiful. I never complained about anything other than generation 5, as a matter of fact, generation 4 was my favorite.Posted November 6th, 2012 at 10:53 AM by PEDRO12
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Pokemon loses fans everytime a new generation pops up. As much as I want to somehow explain the things you have pointed out in this blog post, I doubt it'd be any use. I mean, you're playing the game not for the fun of it. Somehow I think whatever I say here wouldn't even affect your opinion.
/2centsPosted November 6th, 2012 at 11:08 AM by Zeffy
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I think some of the new Pokemon are still pretty original.Sure there's some not so good ones, but they haven't ran out of ideas. I didn't like alot of them at first but they're growing on me. Every generation has some good Pokemon and there's bad Pokemon. Not every Pokemon has to be beautiful or good-looking. Personally I like Meloetta and find her pretty. I don't think they have to have a set number of Pokemon added to each generation. It was never 100 new ones everytime. Gen 4 brought us 107 new pokes and gen 3 brought 135.
I've never seemed to get why people say they look like Digimon now. Is their a definition of what a Digimon or Pokemon is supposed to look like? Not really though I guess , Digimon have more armor and spikes and guns. They're aren't a lot of Pokemon with armor or guns.
Sawk and Throh are personifications of Judo and Karate just like Hitmonchan and Hitmonlee are personifications of boxing and kickboxing. Sawk is a personification of karate and is based on karate expert Mas Oyama. Throh is a personification of judo.
I have to admit the anime isn't as good as it used to be, though I still like it. I was sad when Brock was replaced to, though I like Cilan. It's Iris I can't stand. Basically the same reasons you stated , she's arrogant and annoying to me.
They've recieved criticism only by fans, other than that they were highly praised receiving perfect to near perfect scores in reviews. B2W2 are now the third highest selling DS games of all time and sold 1.6 million copies in the first weekend.
Take my comments as you will, but I loved Black and White and Gen 5 and I can't wait to get my hands on Black2 and White2.
My opinion even if you may not agree with it. Wasn't trying to convince you that you're wrong.Posted November 6th, 2012 at 11:14 AM by AWsquared
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On the contrary, I think Generation 5 had some of the cutest Pokemon to date, most of them are my favorites.
My least fave generation was probably Generation 1, which is a bit weird.Posted November 6th, 2012 at 01:19 PM by Hikari10
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To be totally honest, I enjoyed White Version. The story-line was very good, the graphics were enjoyable. But, the Pokemon and world map annoyed me like hell.Quote:Originally Posted by Zeffy
Pokemon loses fans everytime a new generation pops up. As much as I want to somehow explain the things you have pointed out in this blog post, I doubt it'd be any use. I mean, you're playing the game not for the fun of it. Somehow I think whatever I say here wouldn't even affect your opinion.
/2cents
Also, it's kinda impossible to change someone's opinion like that. You might be able to change my opinion of the death penalty, but could I make you hate Harry Potter? Same applies here. I hate Generation 5. You might logically explain why this all happened, but the fact that I hate it won't change :/
Also, Pokemon has never undergone such a huge change, ever. Little to anything is the same right now as it was. I'm still a fan of Pokemon, but this generation was like, a disaster.
I'm still with Pokemon all the way, but I just can't bring myself to like this crappy generation.
Here's a list of what changed this generation:- Brock is gone. Nuff said. Totally irrational. Get rid of Ash while you're at it.
- The new female companion is a crappy excuse for a human being. Someone so arrogant can not be a part of Pokemon. Period.
- Ash has amnesia. Pikachu has been replaced by an alien.
- Team Rocket became professional. I liked this a lot to be honest, but it eventually only adds up to the massive changes.
- Evolution's appearance has changed for some reason. Same goes for Pokemon being released from Pokeballs. Iron Tail looks stupid. :c
- The Pokemon are stupid.
- The region map is stupid.
- I could go on if I hadn't woken up like 10 minutes ago >_>
That's not the point. They made too many Pokemon and ended up making some ridiculously stupid ones.Quote:Originally Posted by AWsquared
I think some of the new Pokemon are still pretty original.Sure there's some not so good ones, but they haven't ran out of ideas. I didn't like alot of them at first but they're growing on me. Every generation has some good Pokemon and there's bad Pokemon. Not every Pokemon has to be beautiful or good-looking. Personally I like Meloetta and find her pretty. I don't think they have to have a set number of Pokemon added to each generation. It was never 100 new ones everytime. Gen 4 brought us 107 new pokes and gen 3 brought 135.
They're pretty distinguishable when you know them that well.Quote:Originally Posted by AWsquared
I've never seemed to get why people say they look like Digimon now. Is their a definition of what a Digimon or Pokemon is supposed to look like? Not really though I guess , Digimon have more armor and spikes and guns. They're aren't a lot of Pokemon with armor or guns.
And why are they wearing martial arts clothing? Does every trainer who catch one buy it a pair for some awkward reason or are they born with it?Quote:Originally Posted by AWsquared
Sawk and Throh are personifications of Judo and Karate just like Hitmonchan and Hitmonlee are personifications of boxing and kickboxing. Sawk is a personification of karate and is based on karate expert Mas Oyama. Throh is a personification of judo.
[Sigh] Those two are the worst screw up in Pokemon history.
Agreed.Quote:Originally Posted by AWsquared
I have to admit the anime isn't as good as it used to be, though I still like it. I was sad when Brock was replaced to, though I like Cilan. It's Iris I can't stand. Basically the same reasons you stated , she's arrogant and annoying to me.
I've heard like, countless people saying they bought the games for the same reason I did, the graphics looked great, they were intrigued by the storyline, and they didn't want to miss out on a Pokemon game.Quote:Originally Posted by AWsquared
They've recieved criticism only by fans, other than that they were highly praised receiving perfect to near perfect scores in reviews. B2W2 are now the third highest selling DS games of all time and sold 1.6 million copies in the first weekend.
Everyone has their opinions I suppose.Quote:Originally Posted by AWsquared
Take my comments as you will, but I loved Black and White and Gen 5 and I can't wait to get my hands on Black2 and White2.
No problem on my end lol, I can't blog something like this and not expect criticism xDQuote:Originally Posted by AWsquared
My opinion even if you may not agree with it. Wasn't trying to convince you that you're wrong.
Some of them were great, I can't say otherwise. Emolga is so cute omg <3 <3 <3Quote:Originally Posted by Hikari10
On the contrary, I think Generation 5 had some of the cutest Pokemon to date, most of them are my favorites.
My least fave generation was probably Generation 1, which is a bit weird.
Volcarona and Hydreigon are very well done as well. The starters and monkey triplet are pretty good too. However, most of them were lame excuses for Pokemon. For some reason, people are trying to convince themselves that these Pokemon are original and creative. Original and creative are two different concepts. A Pokemon can in no rational explanation or in any logical world, resemble an ice-cream cone or wear a martial arts uniform.
If someone can give me an explanation as to why they made those pathetic Pokemon, I'm all ears. Could they not have had 151 Pokemon and left it at that?Posted November 6th, 2012 at 09:31 PM by PEDRO12
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Oh, what the hell...Quote:Originally Posted by AWsquared
I've never seemed to get why people say they look like Digimon now. Is their a definition of what a Digimon or Pokemon is supposed to look like? Not really though I guess , Digimon have more armor and spikes and guns. They're aren't a lot of Pokemon with armor or guns.
Look! Bazookas!
Look! Spikes!
Look! Armor!
Generalizing is stupid. Especially when Digimon actually got more extensive and creative designs. Pokemon keeps it way too safe, while there's a Digimon that's based on poop and one that's based on Beelzebub, a mythological demon. Also, it's ridiculous to compare their designs when one is supposed to be natural creatures while the other digital monsters. The looking like digimon complaint is from the fact that the current artstyle is similar to the one Digimon adopts, but doesn't seem to suit as well.
Fans only? I've yet to see a person who thought Pokemon B/W is a good game who isn't either a kid or a long-time fan. And there's no denying its flaws.Quote:They've recieved criticism only by fans, other than that they were highly praised receiving perfect to near perfect scores in reviews. B2W2 are now the third highest selling DS games of all time and sold 1.6 million copies in the first weekend.
Also, sales don't speak about the quality of the games, especially when most if not about 95% of the consumers are children. Pokemon is a media icon right now, it has nothing to do with it being a quality game. And it only got perfect score from Famitsu which is a joke. (Giving MGS Peace Walker 40/40 just because the game referenced them, for example, as much as I love the game.) Godhand, for example, received pitiful reviews and abysmal sales but it's still considered a PS2 classic among consumers.Posted November 6th, 2012 at 11:06 PM by Spinosaurus
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They wear martial arts clothing because people in judo and karate wear that. That's why. It so they can be accurate to what they're representing. And explain to me how original and creative are two different concepts?Quote:Originally Posted by PEDRO12
And why are they wearing martial arts clothing? Does every trainer who catch one buy it a pair for some awkward reason or are they born with it?
[Sigh] Those two are the worst screw up in Pokemon history.
If someone can give me an explanation as to why they made those pathetic Pokemon, I'm all ears. Could they not have had 151 Pokemon and left it at that?
Also you say they should of stuck with 151 but said the last three regions had beautiful maps and concepts. That sounds hypocritical to me. And if they didn't add more Pokemon to the dex, then it would be boring. People would be tired of using the same Pokemon over and over again. Variety in life makes things better. I hate it how years ago, people said there wasn't enough Pokemon and now that they added more, there's too much and they're like you said "pathetic" and ugly. When they're not, people just need to let go of their nostalgia goggles and move on. Things change whether you like it or. You may not like them all but the games are still the same as they were 15 years ago.
And don't want to offend you, but maybe you should get out of the "everything in life must be beautiful and only beauty should be appreciated" gutter. The only has ugly things, ugly people, and ugly creatures, so why can't there be ugly Pokemon as well? Pokemon don't have to be good-looking.
I'm sorry thought that had to be said.Posted November 6th, 2012 at 11:13 PM by AWsquared
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Hey, just wait for some R/S remakes. If they don't come, then you'll have an even bigger reason to get pissed. :)Posted November 7th, 2012 at 12:10 AM by AlexTheRose
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http://generallythinking.com/creativ...d-originality/Quote:Originally Posted by AWsquared
They wear martial arts clothing because people in judo and karate wear that. That's why. It so they can be accurate to what they're representing. And explain to me how original and creative are two different concepts?
Creativity, Originality, and Quality are three very different things. Previous generations had sufficient quantities of each, but generation 5 lacks originality.
Wtf? When the hell did I say that? Please try to pay attention when you read things. It's offensive that you can retaliate to something you haven't even understood properly. I meant that they could have gone without the Vanillite trio and Throh/Sawk in the Unova Dex:Quote:Originally Posted by AWsquared
Also you say they should of stuck with 151 but said the last three regions had beautiful maps and concepts. That sounds hypocritical to me. And if they didn't add more Pokemon to the dex, then it would be boring. People would be tired of using the same Pokemon over and over again. Variety in life makes things better. I hate it how years ago, people said there wasn't enough Pokemon and now that they added more, there's too much and they're like you said "pathetic" and ugly. When they're not, people just need to let go of their nostalgia goggles and move on. Things change whether you like it or. You may not like them all but the games are still the same as they were 15 years ago.
156 - 5 = 151
I was not talking about the national dex. In case you haven't noticed, I've mentioned multiple times that I love all generations except generation 5. That should have been an immediate give away of what I meant.
What? No.Quote:Originally Posted by AWsquared
And don't want to offend you, but maybe you should get out of the "everything in life must be beautiful and only beauty should be appreciated" gutter. The only has ugly things, ugly people, and ugly creatures, so why can't there be ugly Pokemon as well? Pokemon don't have to be good-looking.
Pokemon is a franchise, their job is to make good looking and interesting Pokemon to make it more popular. Why in hell would they purposefully make ugly Pokemon? And that's what I mean when I say generation 5 was a screw-up.
I'd appreciate if people actually read what I was saying before they replied. Thank you.Posted November 7th, 2012 at 01:48 AM by PEDRO12
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Stop posting your opinions like they're facts, that's why you're getting haters! You're saying things like "these Pokemon are the worst screwup in Pokemon history", that's why you're getting people being upset. No matter how many times you add to the end of a rant "this is just my opinion", when the things you say sound like you see them as facts you'll get criticism. :(Posted November 7th, 2012 at 01:55 AM by Toujours
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Quote:I'd appreciate if people actually read what I was saying before they replied. Thank you.
And this. Almost all gen I thumpers do that. It's annoying and makes me want to hate gen I. You know. "Fans ruin everything."Quote:Stop posting your opinions like they're facts, that's why you're getting haters! You're saying things like "these Pokemon are the worst screwup in Pokemon history", that's why you're getting people being upset. No matter how many times you add to the end of a rant "this is just my opinion", when the things you say sound like you see them as facts you'll get criticism. :(Posted November 7th, 2012 at 01:58 AM by Sydian 
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As I've mentioned, I don't have a problem with criticism. When you post a blog entry like this, you can only expect criticism. But if you read twe replies up, you'll realize why I'm upset right now.Quote:Originally Posted by Toujours
Stop posting your opinions like they're facts, that's why you're getting haters! You're saying things like "these Pokemon are the worst screwup in Pokemon history", that's why you're getting people being upset. No matter how many times you add to the end of a rant "this is just my opinion", when the things you say sound like you see them as facts you'll get criticism. :(
It's when I get criticism for things I didn't say that pisses me off.
lolQuote:Originally Posted by Sydian
As I have mentioned, I am not a "Gen 1 thumper" :/Quote:Originally Posted by Sydian
And this. Almost all gen I thumpers do that. It's annoying and makes me want to hate gen I. You know. "Fans ruin everything."
I think all generations of Pokemon are just fine, actually excellent, except generation 5. Here's how I list them, in descending order of quality:- Generation 4
- Generation 3
- Generation 2
- Generation 1
- Generation 5
Posted November 7th, 2012 at 02:06 AM by PEDRO12
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I did not say "PEDRO12 you are a gen I thumper." I was speaking about them in general. For someone that keeps saying "people need to read what I say before replying" you don't seem to do a good job of that yourself. But then again...
Posted November 7th, 2012 at 03:03 AM by Sydian
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I see your point u_u My bad :/
Posted November 7th, 2012 at 04:01 AM by PEDRO12
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Alright, as said before ignoring anime comments, even if I don't like it in general as I have not seen much I won't comment.Quote:At first, I loved them! Gradually, I started realising they looked more like Digimon :/Alright, first thing first; each people like different Pokemon. You hate Sawk and Throh for instance, while I like them. You like Emolga, I think it's 'ok'. Which is why some people may be disagreeing with you; what you thing is uncreative is not for others.Quote:Like come on, seriously, what the hell is this supposed to be, Digimon breeding with Yu-Gi-Oh? Where is the originality? The beauty? Where is the spark I used to get the second I saw the site of the new Pokemon.
I personally take issue with the 'looks like digimon' line. I pose this question: what defines a digimon? Is it the number of spikes on the body? The width of the lines to draw the monsters?
Similarly, what is the definition for something to 'look' like a Pokemon?
Thing is, I don't think one can exactly quantify that. There may be general trends here and there, but it is subjective to begin with and nothing terribly distinct between the two (not like...say, Lego style and Warhammer, for sake of example). What I would define as a Pokemon though is something made by people in the Pokemon company and thus called a Pokemon and used in the games. So what it looks like is really up to the creators.
And looking akin to something else isn't necessarily bad. Some pokes may remind me of other designs (e.g. Telefang), but that's not necessarily bad. Maybe someone else thinks opposite, but then as such to say these pokemon suck is your opinion rather than fact.
As said:Quote:WHAT IN HELL IS SAWK? AND THROH FOR THAT MATTER? I mean, F***. *facepalm*
So there you go.Quote:Sawk and Throh are personifications of Judo and Karate just like Hitmonchan and Hitmonlee are personifications of boxing and kickboxing. Sawk is a personification of karate and is based on karate expert Mas Oyama. Throh is a personification of judo.
Machoke has a belt, why does it need that? What about Hitmonchan's clothing? Why is this example then so bad when previous generations have had clothing? And heck, one might argue Machop could have benefitted from a getup. Again, all subjective. =pQuote:And why are they wearing martial arts clothing? Does every trainer who catch one buy it a pair for some awkward reason or are they born with it?
That said, there is reason behind the supposed madness, as again pointed out. Traditionally clothing is worn by karateka, etc.
Not so, imo. The main games have always been about promoting trading and battling. As such two versions here continues that; you have version exclusives again coupled with extra wifi features to promote trading with people (GTS for instance, which also greatly benefits Join Avenue, etc). That's no small point! And as for a sequel, a follow on from either case of B/W where different things happened kinda makes sense to me too.Quote:EDIT: One last thing I forgot to mention. Why did GF have to make sequels to BW? I can accept a sequel, but not two. That's totally unreasonable. Totally illogical. And completely pointless. Kthnxbye.
What is huge about current changes (games only, as said idk about anime) compared to previous, and what makes it a disaster though?Quote:Also, Pokemon has never undergone such a huge change, ever. Little to anything is the same right now as it was. I'm still a fan of Pokemon, but this generation was like, a disaster.
Nope. Their job is to sell merchandise, primarily the games. That means to appeal to as many people as possible in general, and sales show in that regard they're doing fine. Ugly Pokemon is subjective in itself, and as said every gen has its fair share (e.g. this has trubbish, 1st gen had muk).Quote:Pokemon is a franchise, their job is to make good looking and interesting Pokemon to make it more popular. Why in hell would they purposefully make ugly Pokemon? And that's what I mean when I say generation 5 was a screw-up.
I will say I kinda agree with you on maps. Not a instant 'bleh this map/region sucks!!' deal, but in BW I felt it was too linear (some people like that but I prefer a bit of freedom...e.g. johto in gsc with left/right options at ecruteak). I also have various qualms with BW myself (B2W2 however I certainly prefer thus far), but I do disagree with a number of your statements about the pokemon being the worst ever, etc.Posted November 7th, 2012 at 10:18 AM by bobandbill
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Always thought Hitmonlee was Tae Kwon Doe. Kickboxing involves punching you know, much more than Muay Thai.
Posted November 7th, 2012 at 01:50 PM by Spinosaurus
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Correct, it's closer to that martial art. That said, his Japanese name is based on a kickboxer iirc *checks* yup, go figure. Also Bruce Lee. Who did Kungfu and etc!
Hitmonlee sure is a confused Pokemon I bet.Posted November 8th, 2012 at 11:37 AM by bobandbill
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Quote:Originally Posted by bobandbill
Alright, as said before ignoring anime comments, even if I don't like it in general as I have not seen much I won't comment.
Alright, first thing first; each people like different Pokemon. You hate Sawk and Throh for instance, while I like them. You like Emolga, I think it's 'ok'. Which is why some people may be disagreeing with you; what you thing is uncreative is not for others.
I personally take issue with the 'looks like digimon' line. I pose this question: what defines a digimon? Is it the number of spikes on the body? The width of the lines to draw the monsters?
Similarly, what is the definition for something to 'look' like a Pokemon?
Thing is, I don't think one can exactly quantify that. There may be general trends here and there, but it is subjective to begin with and nothing terribly distinct between the two (not like...say, Lego style and Warhammer, for sake of example). What I would define as a Pokemon though is something made by people in the Pokemon company and thus called a Pokemon and used in the games. So what it looks like is really up to the creators.
And looking akin to something else isn't necessarily bad. Some pokes may remind me of other designs (e.g. Telefang), but that's not necessarily bad. Maybe someone else thinks opposite, but then as such to say these pokemon suck is your opinion rather than fact.
As said:
So there you go.
Machoke has a belt, why does it need that? What about Hitmonchan's clothing? Why is this example then so bad when previous generations have had clothing? And heck, one might argue Machop could have benefitted from a getup. Again, all subjective. =p
That said, there is reason behind the supposed madness, as again pointed out. Traditionally clothing is worn by karateka, etc.
Not so, imo. The main games have always been about promoting trading and battling. As such two versions here continues that; you have version exclusives again coupled with extra wifi features to promote trading with people (GTS for instance, which also greatly benefits Join Avenue, etc). That's no small point! And as for a sequel, a follow on from either case of B/W where different things happened kinda makes sense to me too.
What is huge about current changes (games only, as said idk about anime) compared to previous, and what makes it a disaster though?
Nope. Their job is to sell merchandise, primarily the games. That means to appeal to as many people as possible in general, and sales show in that regard they're doing fine. Ugly Pokemon is subjective in itself, and as said every gen has its fair share (e.g. this has trubbish, 1st gen had muk).
I will say I kinda agree with you on maps. Not a instant 'bleh this map/region sucks!!' deal, but in BW I felt it was too linear (some people like that but I prefer a bit of freedom...e.g. johto in gsc with left/right options at ecruteak). I also have various qualms with BW myself (B2W2 however I certainly prefer thus far), but I do disagree with a number of your statements about the pokemon being the worst ever, etc.
You basically stated everything I was gonna use in response, but I forgot about this blog till now. Oh well, guess this I'm a bit late to respond anymore seeing this is a few days old and he likely forgotten about it.
Though I like to add PEDRO , if you actually read these comments, I actually did read your comments.I made a bad response. Sorry if it didn't seem like it.Posted November 8th, 2012 at 12:46 PM by AWsquared
