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This blog mostly contains my latest escapades in the Pokémon fandom. Be it related to the games, the anime, my collection, or PC itself, this blog should have it. I assume this will mostly be filled with collection updates, since that's my main interest in the fandom, but we shall see. Thanks for reading!

If you're interested in my gaming habits outside of Pokémon, you might be interested in my Gamespot blog, perhaps. If you want my day-to-day ramblings, check out my Livejournal. The latter may have questionable content or not-quite-PG ratings, so use discretion. :P


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    Platinum bug? [edit: ALSO LEGENDARIES]

    [1/??] I have to go so I haven't written everything yet. XD

    Slow Erica is slooooow. Sorry for the late response. I've been dead tired the last little while. XD
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    Yes, the internet has to be the greatest place for finding random knowledge. People learn really great facts from the internet (I know that my English has improved a lot since I started frequenting forums) so I don't really understand why websites like Wikipedia are banned when doing schoolwork in most cases. Do the teachers not want you to finish the question quickly? No matter how hard it is to find something out, you're still going to learn it. I know I'd rather search up Wikipedia than trying Google Search for an hour or so.
    Oh god another tangent. XDD I think most school boards ban wiki because it's, firstly, editable by everyone. Standards are way up from when it was first introduced, however, so that's probably a secondary concern. Mainly, teachers want everyone to be able to look things up on their own WITHOUT wiki. Sure, it's great to have a centralized place for all the info you need, but you'd be surprised how many people don't know how to look up information in a real encyclopaedia. o_O; Or if you give them something that has no wiki entry, they're totally lost. I think that's why wiki is banned. :/
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    But my little rant aside, back to Pokémon. The greatest thing about the first and second generations was that all you needed was a bit of common sense to figure out what the Pokémon were based on/represented (at least, most of the time). Take Ekans, backwards for snake. And then Krabby. Does that even need an explanation? Hoot-Hoot is an owl. Blaziken is a fiery chicken that possess some blaze... Maybe. Zigzagoon... Wtf? Everything regarding originality seemed to spiral downwards with the third generation onwards. Either the Pokémon were too original (Castform) or they were too blunt (Luvudisk)

    I'm not sure if I agree with you when it comes to returning to the first generation with the fourth. You have the legendaries, which we've already discussed and come to the conclusion that they're crazy and unnecessary whilst you have Bidoof and it's just too damn obvious as to what inspired that design, you know?
    8D Zigzagoon was a racoon! I actually quite liked it, but I definitely agree with you. Ken Sugimori has created every Pokémon EXCEPT for the ones in the third generation, from what I hear. That explains why the designs of the DP Pokémon are just better than RSE's. (But some are still unoriginal, but I guess with 300-something to start out with, it's hard to be original after that. D:) I wonder when they'll hit a stop and finally decide "no more". Because I don't really see Pokémon getting any more original from here on out. They're already resorting to alternate forms of the SAME Pokémon.

    Your Bidoof example... I know it's really obvious, but a fair few first gen Pokémon were like that. I'm even just thinking of its first-gen equivalent, Rattata. It's an obvious one too. I actually feel Rattata, Pidgy, etc. are even more obvious than Bidoof. XD If it weren't for the "bi" part in its name and looking at its evolution too, I'd probably associated it more with a woodchuck than a beaver. :|

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    Well, of course they promote trading so strongly! Think about it; it's Wi-Fi. A whole new generation of gaming was upon the industry and Pokémon was already a goldmine so why not use it as an advantage? If you look at it that way, you can see the logic the mass amount of legendaries in DPP. Not everyone was going to catch every legendary. Some people wouldn't be bothered, other people thought certain legendaries were too hard, so Wi-Fi worked there. I've acquired Cresselia and Heatran off of the GTS because I didn't feel like catching them.

    That said, it has taken the novelty away from catching legendaries. As we've said already, there is no happy feeling fermenting inside of you as you catch a legendary nowadays. Instead, all you say is, 'Wow, another one.'
    I suppose this is true. I love the online stuff, but I do still yearn for the days when I could remember all the legendaries instantly instead of sitting there trying to write them all down for 15 minutes (and still missing some). XD; And if wifi is going to promote a ton of version-only legends... oh well. I'll live. :[
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    Well, Manaphy was an okay Pokémon. It was accepted by the fandom's followers because it was the Mew/Celebi/Jirachi counterpart, ya know? However, its three predecessors could not breed and this jumped the shark. Legendaries cannot breed. End of story. Don't break the laws you have set.

    The anime isn't really related to the games, especially the movies. If you count the movies as canon, you're going to hit plotholes from day one. Yes, there was an episode with a baby Lugia and a fully grown Lugia and it really shouldn't have been made. The writers should never have said that the adult Lugia was the mother of the baby because then someone else could make an assumption that it was just a baby Lugia, born from the heavens.

    And that makes two Lugias as well. Aren't they classified as legendary because they're one of a kind?
    Well, so long as the Manaphy isn't making another Manaphy, I think it's fine. Though I may not agree with Phione as being a legendary, whatever. I still think it's kind of cool. XD;

    This used to be a huge fandom debate way back in the beginning, I think. In RBY, there was no such thing as breeding. There were only TWO Snorlaxes in the game. If you killed both, you couldn't get one. Did that make it legendary? How about Farfetch'd. As far as I remember (and I could be wrong XD) the only way to get it was to trade someone in-game for it. Eevee? Only one. So a legendary isn't a legendary just because it's the only one, it's legendary because there are local myths and folklore associated to it. The anime helps show us what they are but even in the games I think some people will hint at legendaries and what they do.

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    Yes, exactly what I said. The side-quests were fun, the rewards were not. I had to search up on another website as to how to unlock the Regis because how would any normal gamer figure it out? It was random to the extreme.
    I love JRPGs so when it comes to crazy sidequests that you can only figure out by going online or using a guide? It's awesome. XD

    THAT SAID... I'll reply to the rest later. I'm at work now and my lunch break is over so I'd better go back to pretending I have something to do... even if I don't. 8D;
    Posted September 16th, 2008 at 09:17 AM by Cherrim Cherrim is offline
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    Platinum bug? [edit: ALSO LEGENDARIES]

    Hm, apparently you're unable to edit comments posted about entries. Anyways, here's the thread. The creator of the thread was wrong on a few accounts but as far as these things go, this was pretty good.

    Hope you don't mind me triple posting :x
    Posted September 14th, 2008 at 10:20 AM by Avey Avey is offline
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    Platinum bug? [edit: ALSO LEGENDARIES]

    Second half of my message because I have the attention span to write it.

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    Agreed, agreed, agreed. On all points. The pixies are just so boring. They're boring to catch. For the one that runs, Mesprit I guess (I never did catch it XD), that's annoying, but like you said, it could be good for the nostalgia factor since every game since GSC has had at least one Pokémon like that. But the fact that Mesprit runs. Cresselia runs. Something else (I think?) runs. Now with Platinum, the birds are roaming around too? Ugh. <_<; It was a pain to do it in GSC (though a creative one, back then) and it's still a pain now. At least keep the trio CONSISTENT. They run, or they stay in one spot. Grrr. >:O

    But yeah, the pixies aren't even interesting looking and they're all one type, so there's not even a real benefit to having all three in your team. (At least with the others, you could cover your bases as far as types go. With these? Uhhh...)
    Yes, if one was running they shouldn't have allowed another to run, especially if Cresselia happened to have no real place in the game whatsoever. Are the birds roaming around in Platinum? I've heard rumours but no one has actually confirmed anything for me. As for keeping the trios together; can I divert your attention to Pokémon Crystal? Suicune really had its own show there. Raikou and Entei were just thrown into the background because they were unloved.

    And yes, even with the Regis, you had three separate types. Now, as you said, three Psychic-Type Pokémon aren't really going to help you.

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    36 starters (including evolutions--only 16 if you don't) and 34 legendaries (not counting forms--who knows how many if you do). That's crazy. ._. There's no appeal to catching legendaries anymore. It's not "oh wow, I got this rare Pokémon and there's only one in the whole game" anymore. It's "oh, hey, I caught another legendary. This one's 'one of a kind' just like the first 8 legendaries." D:
    I'm pretty sure I replied indirectly to this already, so I won't bother repeating myself.

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    I just didn't repeat the Mew/Arceus one. It's ridiculous. My only thought when I was reading through the lore in that library in DP was "THIS POKEMON ALREADY EXISTS AND ITS NAME IS MEW." It's just... augh. Come on guys. They can't even pass this off as an AU Pokémon world because all these regions take place in the same... bigger world. I mean, if none of the games were at all connected in the sense that it was a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT world every time you played, then clashing myths and legendaries would be fine. But since it's all the same general place, it doesn't make sense. Sure, places can have different legends and myths, but you'd think that it would tie-in to the same Pokémon in the end. D: (And THEN alternate forms would make sense. One culture sees it as a fish, another as an underwater bird. Lugia could be both. But they don't take advantage of this, though I'm undecided as to whether I'd want them to or not. XD)
    Alternate forms of Pokémon do not make sense at all. It's quite obvious that they are only there to promote events and trading through Wi-Fi. Really, all the unveiling of alternate forms of Pokémon did for me was confirm my suspicions; the makes or the franchise have lost what they had with the first two generations: Originality.

    The Mew/Arceus debacle is quite interesting and necessary, believe it or not. See, Mew was the Original One, the ancestor of all Pokémon. It had the DNA of all Pokémon inside of it, so surely it created them. However, it could not create everything and other legendaries created what it could not. It could not create legendaries; that was Arceus' job. Arceus created Mew and anything else that formed the earth.

    I know that the game makers were trying to fill in some plotholes, but all they did was make everything much more complicated than before.

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    Done it once and probably won't end up doing it again because I'm so scared of Canada's post system. <_< It takes forever to send anything and even then it may never even get there. I wish they'd make use of WI-FI events. Wi-Fi mystery gift is built-in, is it not? ;_;'
    They did, remember? With the glitter in the snow city I can't remember the name of. Somewhat disappointing, but at least they're putting it to use.

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    That'd be awesome. It sounds like an interesting read. :D And... no, I don't get comment notification. 8| I just kind of check the "recent comments" list under the main blog header every few hours. Why that wasn't built-in to this plugin I have NO idea.
    Cool, hang on and I'll dig it out in a second.

    And yeah. What's up with that Vbulletin?
    Posted September 14th, 2008 at 07:38 AM by Avey Avey is offline
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    Platinum bug? [edit: ALSO LEGENDARIES]

    First half of my reply. Let's have a round of applause for character limits!

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    That's true. The good thing about the internet is that you can honestly find so much on it. I bet there's an explanation of virtually every Pokémon... somewhere out there. Makes me want to compile a list myself! (I know I had a list of where every Pokémon's name came from that I made myself back in first gen but that's not quite the same. XD) I'm obviously fine with some Pokémon that are really hard to place. I mean wtf is Lickitung supposed to be? XD I still like its design and I think it's a worthwhile Pokémon though. But then... *grabs RSE guidebook and opens to a random page* what's Gulpin supposed to be? I just think they got so much more abstract after second gen. (They came back to their roots a little more with DP, if you discount the legendaries though... I think. XD)
    Yes, the internet has to be the greatest place for finding random knowledge. People learn really great facts from the internet (I know that my English has improved a lot since I started frequenting forums) so I don't really understand why websites like Wikipedia are banned when doing schoolwork in most cases. Do the teachers not want you to finish the question quickly? No matter how hard it is to find something out, you're still going to learn it. I know I'd rather search up Wikipedia than trying Google Search for an hour or so.

    But my little rant aside, back to Pokémon. The greatest thing about the first and second generations was that all you needed was a bit of common sense to figure out what the Pokémon were based on/represented (at least, most of the time). Take Ekans, backwards for snake. And then Krabby. Does that even need an explanation? Hoot-Hoot is an owl. Blaziken is a fiery chicken that possess some blaze... Maybe. Zigzagoon... Wtf? Everything regarding originality seemed to spiral downwards with the third generation onwards. Either the Pokémon were too original (Castform) or they were too blunt (Luvudisk).

    I'm not sure if I agree with you when it comes to returning to the first generation with the fourth. You have the legendaries, which we've already discussed and come to the conclusion that they're crazy and unnecessary whilst you have Bidoof and it's just too damn obvious as to what inspired that design, you know?

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    I didn't mind not having mascots in Red and Blue, but I was perfectly fine with them in Gold and Silver. To be honest, while I like the idea of mascots, I hate how they do them now. D: In GS, you could catch YOUR legendary and later on, if you so desired, you could go catch the one from the other version in your game. Now they promote trading like whoa. ._. Before the internet, if you didn't know anyone with the other version and couldn't afford it yourself, you were screwed. That sucks. D: BUT I DIGRESS. I don't see how Palkia and Dialga are dragons either. Honestly, they don't look like much of anything. Save Palkia and its running joke about being a phallus. XD;
    Well, of course they promote trading so strongly! Think about it; it's Wi-Fi. A whole new generation of gaming was upon the industry and Pokémon was already a goldmine so why not use it as an advantage? If you look at it that way, you can see the logic the mass amount of legendaries in DPP. Not everyone was going to catch every legendary. Some people wouldn't be bothered, other people thought certain legendaries were too hard, so Wi-Fi worked there. I've acquired Cresselia and Heatran off of the GTS because I didn't feel like catching them.

    That said, it has taken the novelty away from catching legendaries. As we've said already, there is no happy feeling fermenting inside of you as you catch a legendary nowadays. Instead, all you say is, 'Wow, another one.'

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    I think it's interesting. In the anime, the legendaries can breed. Or they must, anyway, because there are more than one. Like, I know there's an episode with a Lugia AND the Lugia's baby. I know there's another example somewhere but I forget what it is. 8/ I think Manaphy is a good one though, breeding or not. It just... matches the others.

    I think Darkrai would have made an interesting mascot. It even had a movie where it was featured with Dialga and Palkia! In any other gen, that would've been enough. XD Giratina and its two forms piss me off though. I always sound like a hypocrite when I whine about forms all the time but I don't care. It's getting ridiculous, in my opinion. ._.
    Well, Manaphy was an okay Pokémon. It was accepted by the fandom's followers because it was the Mew/Celebi/Jirachi counterpart, ya know? However, its three predecessors could not breed and this jumped the shark. Legendaries cannot breed. End of story. Don't break the laws you have set.

    The anime isn't really related to the games, especially the movies. If you count the movies as canon, you're going to hit plotholes from day one. Yes, there was an episode with a baby Lugia and a fully grown Lugia and it really shouldn't have been made. The writers should never have said that the adult Lugia was the mother of the baby because then someone else could make an assumption that it was just a baby Lugia, born from the heavens.

    And that makes two Lugias as well. Aren't they classified as legendary because they're one of a kind?

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    Oh, I actually got the Regis simply because it was fun to get to them. But it wasn't the legendaries that made me want to go out and solve those puzzles, it was the puzzles themselves. I could've cared less what the reward in the end was. D: And that's... not good. I feel that, while fun puzzles are great, the reward in the end should be a legendary with meaning. Or at least something that doesn't make you go "wtf is this " when you capture it. Regardless, this is how legendaries should be caught! You have all these CRAZY WEIRD TASKS that no normal person would think to do, which is why no one in the game canon has a legendary and then you get to catch one. I just wish they were, you know, not so random. D8 I can deal only because they were fun to find.
    Yes, exactly what I said. The side-quests were fun, the rewards were not. I had to search up on another website as to how to unlock the Regis because how would any normal gamer figure it out? It was random to the extreme.
    Posted September 14th, 2008 at 07:26 AM by Avey Avey is offline
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    Platinum bug? [edit: ALSO LEGENDARIES]

    [2/2] SORRY THIS IS SO LONG. I CAN'T HELP IT.

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    The pixies are boring. Well, Azelf and Uxie definitely are. You just walk into a cave and battle them. Nothing exciting. With Mesprit, you have to chase like you chased the legendary beasts back in the day. Good for the nostalgia factor, bad for the fact that not everyone has the patience to chase a legendary Pokémon that doesn't really have the best stats ever anyways.

    The Regis were okay. You could see that the people in charge of Pokémon were trying to take it into a new direction (gradually, mind) and thinking they succeeded, they went ahead with a trio of Pokémon that were the same type.

    Yeah, not a good idea at all. I'm not sure whether it's the stats, the designs or the crazy concept of the legendary pixies that puts me off. It's probably a mixture of all those reasons and more, but the pixies are the definition of epic fail in my book.
    Agreed, agreed, agreed. On all points. The pixies are just so boring. They're boring to catch. For the one that runs, Mesprit I guess (I never did catch it XD), that's annoying, but like you said, it could be good for the nostalgia factor since every game since GSC has had at least one Pokémon like that. But the fact that Mesprit runs. Cresselia runs. Something else (I think?) runs. Now with Platinum, the birds are roaming around too? Ugh. <_<; It was a pain to do it in GSC (though a creative one, back then) and it's still a pain now. At least keep the trio CONSISTENT. They run, or they stay in one spot. Grrr. >:O

    But yeah, the pixies aren't even interesting looking and they're all one type, so there's not even a real benefit to having all three in your team. (At least with the others, you could cover your bases as far as types go. With these? Uhhh...)

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    Indeed. I miss the days when Legendary Pokémon were few and far between. Nowadays, they're as common as starter Pokémon. No one wants what everyone else has. It's what made Legendaries special back in the day. Everyone has at least one legendary Pokémon. They just are recognised as something worthy of celebrating a capture of anymore, which is sort of sad. Yes, they may have good stats and they may play a prominent role within the games, but they are just Pokémon. That's not the attitude the people had when the first and second generation games were around, but it is now, unfortunately.
    36 starters (including evolutions--only 16 if you don't) and 34 legendaries (not counting forms--who knows how many if you do). That's crazy. ._. There's no appeal to catching legendaries anymore. It's not "oh wow, I got this rare Pokémon and there's only one in the whole game" anymore. It's "oh, hey, I caught another legendary. This one's 'one of a kind' just like the first 8 legendaries." D:
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    If you think the Lugia/Kyogre, Rayquaza/Ho-Oh and Dialga/Celebi debacles are bad, you've realised that the Mew/Arceus predicament jumped the shark, right? Mew was the Original One. The ancestor of all Pokémon. Then this massive dog comes out of nowhere and calls itself a god.

    Lawl continuity.
    I just didn't repeat the Mew/Arceus one. It's ridiculous. My only thought when I was reading through the lore in that library in DP was "THIS POKEMON ALREADY EXISTS AND ITS NAME IS MEW." It's just... augh. Come on guys. They can't even pass this off as an AU Pokémon world because all these regions take place in the same... bigger world. I mean, if none of the games were at all connected in the sense that it was a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT world every time you played, then clashing myths and legendaries would be fine. But since it's all the same general place, it doesn't make sense. Sure, places can have different legends and myths, but you'd think that it would tie-in to the same Pokémon in the end. D: (And THEN alternate forms would make sense. One culture sees it as a fish, another as an underwater bird. Lugia could be both. But they don't take advantage of this, though I'm undecided as to whether I'd want them to or not. XD)
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    At least you can do stuff like that. I'm Irish, remember? No countries near me, let alone my city, gets events. The closest I'll get to a genuine event is a hack off the GTS.

    That said; I wouldn't really care. Legendaries are no longer novelty items seeing as everyone has them.
    Done it once and probably won't end up doing it again because I'm so scared of Canada's post system. <_< It takes forever to send anything and even then it may never even get there. I wish they'd make use of WI-FI events. Wi-Fi mystery gift is built-in, is it not? ;_;'
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    Thanks. Hang on and I'll link you to a thread explaining the masters thing in greater detail.

    Oh, by the way; do you get a blog comment notification? Just curious.
    That'd be awesome. It sounds like an interesting read. :D And... no, I don't get comment notification. 8| I just kind of check the "recent comments" list under the main blog header every few hours. Why that wasn't built-in to this plugin I have NO idea.
    Posted September 13th, 2008 at 08:41 PM by Cherrim Cherrim is offline
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    Platinum bug? [edit: ALSO LEGENDARIES]

    [1/2] LOL this stupid comment was so long I had to split it up. 8|

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    Hm, it really depends. I could say that Arbok was based on a cobra whilst Magby was based on a child playing with fire. Sure, the last explanation sounds surreal, but it still serves as an explanation. I'm sure (if I wanted to try hard enough, of course) I could list off things that could have inspired every design of Pokémon that has been drawn*. Someone will always have an idea and that idea will eventually pass off as fact. Take Pikachu, for example. I used to think the little yellow guy resembled a dog with a really spiky tail. A couple of weeks later I read in a book that it was an electric mouse. People's views are prone to changing based on how realistic the views presented to them are, but so long as there is a view in front of them, they will take it.
    That's true. The good thing about the internet is that you can honestly find so much on it. I bet there's an explanation of virtually every Pokémon... somewhere out there. Makes me want to compile a list myself! (I know I had a list of where every Pokémon's name came from that I made myself back in first gen but that's not quite the same. XD) I'm obviously fine with some Pokémon that are really hard to place. I mean wtf is Lickitung supposed to be? XD I still like its design and I think it's a worthwhile Pokémon though. But then... *grabs RSE guidebook and opens to a random page* what's Gulpin supposed to be? I just think they got so much more abstract after second gen. (They came back to their roots a little more with DP, if you discount the legendaries though... I think. XD)
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    Agreeing with you here. The twin versions need to have two mascots. However, just because their reasons for existence are valid doesn't mean they should exist. As far as designs go, I wasn't really impressed. I still don't understand how they resemble dragons, either. Palkia looks like a giant frog and Dialga looks like an orb with legs.
    I didn't mind not having mascots in Red and Blue, but I was perfectly fine with them in Gold and Silver. To be honest, while I like the idea of mascots, I hate how they do them now. D: In GS, you could catch YOUR legendary and later on, if you so desired, you could go catch the one from the other version in your game. Now they promote trading like whoa. ._. Before the internet, if you didn't know anyone with the other version and couldn't afford it yourself, you were screwed. That sucks. D: BUT I DIGRESS. I don't see how Palkia and Dialga are dragons either. Honestly, they don't look like much of anything. Save Palkia and its running joke about being a phallus. XD;
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    Manaphy is okay. They needed a Pokémon to follow the line of Mew, Celebi and Jirachi and Manaphy was created. However, making a plot twist to try and look original was a bad decision. If Legendary Pokémon aren't able to breed, keep it that way. Never ever break the canon in order to make it more original.

    Giratina was okay. I don't understand how it is classified as a dragon either (the thing has six legs and six wings on its neck?) but if they needed a third mascot, they needed a third mascot.

    By 'they', I mean Nintendo/Gamefreak.
    I think it's interesting. In the anime, the legendaries can breed. Or they must, anyway, because there are more than one. Like, I know there's an episode with a Lugia AND the Lugia's baby. o_O I know there's another example somewhere but I forget what it is. 8/ I think Manaphy is a good one though, breeding or not. It just... matches the others.

    I think Darkrai would have made an interesting mascot. It even had a movie where it was featured with Dialga and Palkia! In any other gen, that would've been enough. XD Giratina and its two forms piss me off though. I always sound like a hypocrite when I whine about forms all the time but I don't care. It's getting ridiculous, in my opinion. ._.

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    See, the thing I liked about the Regis was that it was actually quite a challenge to catch them. I can't quite remember how you unlocked them (I was only ten or so when I played the games and I haven't revisited them since) but I recall needing a Relicanth and a Wailord in your party and then you had to go underwater to try and unlock the doors to the temples the Regis resided in. After that you would have to pass another challenge (with Regice, you had to stand there reading the writing for five minutes without moving, with Regirock, you had to do something stupid maneuver with Strength and I can't even remember what you had to do with the last member of the trio) and then you would catch them. I enjoy a challenge and ended up catching them all. It took effort, though.
    Oh, I actually got the Regis simply because it was fun to get to them. But it wasn't the legendaries that made me want to go out and solve those puzzles, it was the puzzles themselves. I could've cared less what the reward in the end was. D: And that's... not good. I feel that, while fun puzzles are great, the reward in the end should be a legendary with meaning. Or at least something that doesn't make you go "wtf is this :|" when you capture it. Regardless, this is how legendaries should be caught! You have all these CRAZY WEIRD TASKS that no normal person would think to do, which is why no one in the game canon has a legendary and then you get to catch one. I just wish they were, you know, not so random. D8 I can deal only because they were fun to find.
    Posted September 13th, 2008 at 08:41 PM by Cherrim Cherrim is offline
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    Platinum bug? [edit: ALSO LEGENDARIES]

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    Some things I don't mind. Like, in Voltorb's case, you could put a spin on it that the engineers of the Pokéball modelled it after Voltorb to make it a more memorable design. I actually quite like Nosepass and its evolution, but I always kind of justify them with "well, people made the Mowai (sp?) statues based on that Pokémon" since, you know, Pokémon can be a total AU. But it doesn't explain the ones that LOOK LIKE NOTHING. D8
    Hm, it really depends. I could say that Arbok was based on a cobra whilst Magby was based on a child playing with fire. Sure, the last explanation sounds surreal, but it still serves as an explanation. I'm sure (if I wanted to try hard enough, of course) I could list off things that could have inspired every design of Pokémon that has been drawn*. Someone will always have an idea and that idea will eventually pass off as fact. Take Pikachu, for example. I used to think the little yellow guy resembled a dog with a really spiky tail. A couple of weeks later I read in a book that it was an electric mouse. People's views are prone to changing based on how realistic the views presented to them are, but so long as there is a view in front of them, they will take it.

    Read over that, it sort of sounds like a riddle, so let me say it in a clearer manner:

    You have Probopass, who resembles a giant rock and really doesn't seem to serve a purpose. People are too close-minded to just accept something new into their minds; they have to make it relate to something in order to describe it. So, instead of saying it's a Probopass, they'll say it's a giant rock. Then someone will come along and say that it was based on the Mowai statues and people will instantly go along with that because it sounds much more interesting and profound.

    Damn. I miss the days of not being able to describe a Kadabra. Now, thanks to Alter Ego and Jax Malcolm, and can tell you it looks like a fox. I could tell you much more, but I'll refrain. I'm sure you have enough boredom in your life without me adding to it.

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    For DP, the only legendaries I "approve" of are Dialga & Palkia (I don't mind them. They're the main legendaries and that's okay),
    Agreeing with you here. The twin versions need to have two mascots. However, just because their reasons for existence are valid doesn't mean they should exist. As far as designs go, I wasn't really impressed. I still don't understand how they resemble dragons, either. Palkia looks like a giant frog and Dialga looks like an orb with legs.

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    Manaphy (and Phione because it's an interesting spin--a legendary that can breed!), and I suppose Giratina, since they need a third one to sell Platinum with.
    Manaphy is okay. They needed a Pokémon to follow the line of Mew, Celebi and Jirachi and Manaphy was created. However, making a plot twist to try and look original was a bad decision. If Legendary Pokémon aren't able to breed, keep it that way. Never ever break the canon in order to make it more original.

    Giratina was okay. I don't understand how it is classified as a dragon either (the thing has six legs and six wings on its neck?) but if they needed a third mascot, they needed a third mascot.

    By 'they', I mean Nintendo/Gamefreak.

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    Though I'd much prefer if they'd do it like they did in GSC and base the third game on one of the existing legendaries. I hate the Pixies though. They aren't interesting and I have no will to go catch them. (Same with the Regis, to be honest.)
    See, the thing I liked about the Regis was that it was actually quite a challenge to catch them. I can't quite remember how you unlocked them (I was only ten or so when I played the games and I haven't revisited them since) but I recall needing a Relicanth and a Wailord in your party and then you had to go underwater to try and unlock the doors to the temples the Regis resided in. After that you would have to pass another challenge (with Regice, you had to stand there reading the writing for five minutes without moving, with Regirock, you had to do something stupid maneuver with Strength and I can't even remember what you had to do with the last member of the trio) and then you would catch them. I enjoy a challenge and ended up catching them all. It took effort, though.

    The pixies are boring. Well, Azelf and Uxie definitely are. You just walk into a cave and battle them. Nothing exciting. With Mesprit, you have to chase like you chased the legendary beasts back in the day. Good for the nostalgia factor, bad for the fact that not everyone has the patience to chase a legendary Pokémon that doesn't really have the best stats ever anyways.

    The Regis were okay. You could see that the people in charge of Pokémon were trying to take it into a new direction (gradually, mind) and thinking they succeeded, they went ahead with a trio of Pokémon that were the same type.

    Yeah, not a good idea at all. I'm not sure whether it's the stats, the designs or the crazy concept of the legendary pixies that puts me off. It's probably a mixture of all those reasons and more, but the pixies are the definition of epic fail in my book.

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    But lmao, I DID forget Giratina, despite the fact that just now I mentioned it. See? There are so many freaking legendaries in DP that I can't POSSIBLY name them off the top of my head. They aren't memorable--aren't legendaries supposed to be the ones that EVERYONE knows just because they're so highly regarded? Now it's just like... "oh, there are MORE to catch in this game? Oh well."
    Indeed. I miss the days when Legendary Pokémon were few and far between. Nowadays, they're as common as starter Pokémon. No one wants what everyone else has. It's what made Legendaries special back in the day. Everyone has at least one legendary Pokémon. They just are recognised as something worthy of celebrating a capture of anymore, which is sort of sad. Yes, they may have good stats and they may play a prominent role within the games, but they are just Pokémon. That's not the attitude the people had when the first and second generation games were around, but it is now, unfortunately.

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    Honestly, this is an entirely different topic in its own. I've been whining about the amount of legendaries since RSE and when DP came along, I was just FLOORED by how many there are. This is my biggest complaint with the Pokémon series and, instead of fixing it, it looks like they're going to take it further and further each time. At least MOST of the legendaries are ones I can safely ignore. (I only went out of my way to catch Giratina and Heatran last month in Diamond despite having it for over a year!)
    Haha. Yes, how did it go from Platinum to quality over quantity regarding legendary Pokémon? But yes, I've agreed with you already.

    As for Heatran and Giratina, I've had my Diamond for more than a year and I haven't caught them yet.

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    Also the fact that they're contradicting each other now, like the Arceus and Mew thing. And then you could even go so far as to say Lugia and Kyogre interfere with each other. In the anime, Lugia controlled the seas. When the birds got all out of whack, it threw a fit (lmao, I have such a way with descriptions XD) and then all the sea currents were messed up and then weather started going berserk everywhere. And then Kyogre also controls the seas and oceans? But it apparently MADE them. However in other games everything goes crazy underwater if Kyogre's angered or something. SO WHICH ONE IS IN CHARGE? It's so annoying. D': Rayquaza is (I think) the guardian of the skies... but so is Ho-oh? Dialga controls time, Celebi controls time travel. How close is too close? :/
    If you think the Lugia/Kyogre, Rayquaza/Ho-Oh and Dialga/Celebi debacles are bad, you've realised that the Mew/Arceus predicament jumped the shark, right? Mew was the Original One. The ancestor of all Pokémon. Then this massive dog comes out of nowhere and calls itself a god.

    Lawl continuity.

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    Latias and Latios are actually two very random Pokémon. D: Kyogre and Groudon were the equivalents from third gen.
    My bad. Random indeed. However, they do seem to pair up nicely with Cresselia & Darkrai.

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    It's just ridiculous. Not to mention so many legendaries are events now. Like, I can see why people think that's exciting but Canada does not get event Pokémon. The only reason I have a Darkrai is because Aegis (the member here) visited in May and I gave him my cartridge to take back to the US with him and he mailed it back with Darkrai.
    At least you can do stuff like that. I'm Irish, remember? No countries near me, let alone my city, gets events. The closest I'll get to a genuine event is a hack off the GTS.

    That said; I wouldn't really care. Legendaries are no longer novelty items seeing as everyone has them.

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    This is the most interesting conversation I've had in blog comments so far! I'd never really thought of the "master" thing in legendaries before, but it makes a lot of sense. It's a new way for me to categorize them because I'd always had such weird ways of justifying some and not others. This makes more sense. XD
    Thanks. Hang on and I'll link you to a thread explaining the masters thing in greater detail.

    Oh, by the way; do you get a blog comment notification? Just curious.

    *I could do it if you gave me a blog XD

    Just kidding.
    Posted September 13th, 2008 at 04:55 PM by Avey Avey is offline
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    Some things I don't mind. Like, in Voltorb's case, you could put a spin on it that the engineers of the Pokéball modelled it after Voltorb to make it a more memorable design. I actually quite like Nosepass and its evolution, but I always kind of justify them with "well, people made the Mowai (sp?) statues based on that Pokémon" since, you know, Pokémon can be a total AU. But it doesn't explain the ones that LOOK LIKE NOTHING. D8
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    And now we reach the finale, guys. DPP was an epic failure regarding legendaries but you can see the logic behind some of it.
    For DP, the only legendaries I "approve" of are Dialga & Palkia (I don't mind them. They're the main legendaries and that's okay), Manaphy (and Phione because it's an interesting spin--a legendary that can breed!), and I suppose Giratina, since they need a third one to sell Platinum with. Though I'd much prefer if they'd do it like they did in GSC and base the third game on one of the existing legendaries. I hate the Pixies though. They aren't interesting and I have no will to go catch them. (Same with the Regis, to be honest.)

    But lmao, I DID forget Giratina, despite the fact that just now I mentioned it. See? There are so many freaking legendaries in DP that I can't POSSIBLY name them off the top of my head. They aren't memorable--aren't legendaries supposed to be the ones that EVERYONE knows just because they're so highly regarded? Now it's just like... "oh, there are MORE to catch in this game? Oh well." :(

    Honestly, this is an entirely different topic in its own. I've been whining about the amount of legendaries since RSE and when DP came along, I was just FLOORED by how many there are. This is my biggest complaint with the Pokémon series and, instead of fixing it, it looks like they're going to take it further and further each time. At least MOST of the legendaries are ones I can safely ignore. (I only went out of my way to catch Giratina and Heatran last month in Diamond despite having it for over a year!)

    Also the fact that they're contradicting each other now, like the Arceus and Mew thing. And then you could even go so far as to say Lugia and Kyogre interfere with each other. In the anime, Lugia controlled the seas. When the birds got all out of whack, it threw a fit (lmao, I have such a way with descriptions XD) and then all the sea currents were messed up and then weather started going berserk everywhere. And then Kyogre also controls the seas and oceans? But it apparently MADE them. However in other games everything goes crazy underwater if Kyogre's angered or something. SO WHICH ONE IS IN CHARGE? It's so annoying. D': Rayquaza is (I think) the guardian of the skies... but so is Ho-oh? Dialga controls time, Celebi controls time travel. How close is too close? :/

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    -> Dialga/Palkia are the Ho-Oh/Lugia & Latios/Laitas counterparts.
    Latias and Latios are actually two very random Pokémon. D: Kyogre and Groudon were the equivalents from third gen.

    It's just ridiculous. Not to mention so many legendaries are events now. Like, I can see why people think that's exciting but Canada does not get event Pokémon. The only reason I have a Darkrai is because Aegis (the member here) visited in May and I gave him my cartridge to take back to the US with him and he mailed it back with Darkrai.

    This is the most interesting conversation I've had in blog comments so far! I'd never really thought of the "master" thing in legendaries before, but it makes a lot of sense. It's a new way for me to categorize them because I'd always had such weird ways of justifying some and not others. This makes more sense. XD

    ...Oh my I'm getting very off-topic here. 8( I should just post a thread about legendaries and complain there, lmao. *goes to edit blog title, haha*

    PS: alt+26 for the arrows. I love 'em. ;D
    Posted September 13th, 2008 at 03:34 PM by Cherrim Cherrim is offline
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    You made a few good points there, Lightning. Alright, not necessarily. The first generation did have Magmar, Voltorb ect but the third generation had Pokémon like Gorobyss and Luvudisk while the fourth generation had Probopass or whatever. At least Voltorb had something in common with the franchise. The later generations just seemed to be scraped together by whatever the designers could put together.

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    RBY Legends:
    → Zapdos, Moltres, Articuno (birds, obviously)
    → Mewtwo (clone, so it's okay that it only vaguely resembles any animal; it has a REASON XD)
    → Mew (cat)

    GSC Legends:
    → Raikou, Suicune, Entei (dogs, or whatever. Mythical beasts? Definitely.)
    → Ho-oh, Lugia (more birds. idk what Lugia is but Ho-oh = phoenix)
    → Celebi (a... fairy thing? Was never a fan of it. xD)
    See, the thing that made the first two generations of Legendaries is that everything was joined up in a way. You had the trio of legendary birds and their master was Lugia (proven in the second movie) whilst you had the trio of legendary beasts and their master was Ho-Oh (proven in the second generation games). You had Mew and Celebi, who were obviously meant to signify the smaller but greater Pokémon and you had Mewtwo who was a clone. Everything was joined together.

    When it comes to the third generation legendaries, I'll agree with you that things do get very messy. The Regis were put there to continue on the tradition of the trios and they did not put on that great a show. You then had Groudon and Kyogre being ruled by Rayquaza. Then there was Jirachi and Deoxys (both linked by residing in space). Latias and Latios were completely unneeded though, I'll agree.

    And now we reach the finale, guys. DPP was an epic failure regarding legendaries but you can see the logic behind some of it.

    -> The pixies are another failed attempt of a trio.
    -> Dialga/Palkia are the Ho-Oh/Lugia & Latios/Laitas counterparts.
    -> Cresselia and Darkrai are fairly unneeded but could easily be placed beside Dialga/Palkia.
    -> Manaphy and Phione were there for the Mew/Jirachi/Celebi circle.
    -> Regigas was the master of the regis. Every trio had massters except for the regis so they were given one. A generation too late but at least they were remembered.
    -> Heatran... Yeah ok wtf?
    -> Shaymin/Sky Forme... yeah ok wtfx2?
    Arceus -> Funny thing about Arceus: It was created to end the original one debacle and actually sprouted more questions and uncertainty. It created Mew and Mew created everything else. Fillin' in the missin' gaps, ya dig?

    You also forgot GIRATINA. funny thing about giratina is that it forms a trio with palkia and dialga. their master is possibly arceus, maybe heatran. you just dont know.

    Yes, I can understand what you're saying. Things certainly seemed fairly messed up regarding the legendaries from the third generation onwards.

    And yes, I was too lazy to copy and paste those nifty arrows of yours.

    Forgive me for the bad grammar in this comment as well. It's half ten at night and I have a headache.

    Oh and this is easily the best blog entry so far, Lightning.
    Posted September 13th, 2008 at 01:33 PM by Avey Avey is offline
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    Lol oh god tl;dr comment

    @Wind~: Now that DOES pique my interest. I don't like legendary plots but if this one is done well... maybe I'll play the whole game for once. XD I liked the 3D effect in towns and in the field. To see it done well elsewhere too... hmm.

    @Rekhyt: Not necessarily... I mean, everyone generally says that the first generation is the most creative. But then what about Voltorb? Or Electabuzz? Wtf are they supposed to be? o_O Not to mention something like Metapod doesn't strike me as a mythical beast. ;p My main problem is just that RSE was so AWFUL for designs. There were only a handful of Pokémon in that gen that were actually creative. DP fixed it a bit but... even if it looked better, I still can't shake RSE. 8/ The legendaries in it were AWFUL and they haven't improved on that!

    RBY Legends:
    → Zapdos, Moltres, Articuno (birds, obviously)
    → Mewtwo (clone, so it's okay that it only vaguely resembles any animal; it has a REASON XD)
    → Mew (cat)

    GSC Legends:
    → Raikou, Suicune, Entei (dogs, or whatever. Mythical beasts? Definitely.)
    → Ho-oh, Lugia (more birds. idk what Lugia is but Ho-oh = phoenix)
    → Celebi (a... fairy thing? Was never a fan of it. xD)

    RSE Legends:
    → Regice, Regirock, Registeel (LEGENDARY ROCKS. I mean, um. Golems? >:|)
    → Latias, Latios (more birds dflkjgshsldg)
    → Kyoger (fish), Groudon (...), Rayquaza (dragon thing)
    → Jirachi (sort of resembles those wish tag things in Japan. Makes sense)
    → Deoxys (tentacle monster? LOL I don't know 8/)

    DPP Legends:
    → Uxie, Mesprit, Azelf (...pixies. I guess. wtf are pixies. D:)
    → Dialga, Palkia (...no clue, though I know what I call Palkia...)
    → Cresselia (moon...?), Darkrai (?!?!? what are these!)
    → Manaphy, Phione (Cute but...)
    → Regigigas (AS IF I COULD FIGURE OUT THE FIRST ONES)
    → Heatran (...)
    → Shaymin (hedgehog! :D), Sky forme (...reindeer? o_O)
    → Arceus (big... thing.)

    See? You could tell what everything was supposed to be right up until they added a GAZILLION LEGENDARIES in RSE and DPP. :( I don't know. And now they've added Rotom (which I think probably has a backstory or something--like it watched too much TV and likes imitation ;p) but... augh. I miss when Pokémon really were based off animals and obvious items, not... nothings. D:
    Posted September 13th, 2008 at 06:13 AM by Cherrim Cherrim is offline
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    Meh, I wasn't the biggest fan of Diamond & Pearl and the likeliness of me getting Platinum is pretty slim. The new Rotom forms really jumped the sharks though, in my opinion. Aren't Pokémon meant to be mythical beasts? Since when does a lawnmower pass off as a mythical beast?
    Posted September 13th, 2008 at 05:01 AM by Avey Avey is offline
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    OMG, I totally forgot to tell you, the Torn World in Platinum version! O_O
    Seriously takes use of the 3D effects and graphics of the game, unlike D/P.
    Posted September 12th, 2008 at 10:36 PM by Tyrantrum Tyrantrum is offline
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    Platinum bug? [edit: ALSO LEGENDARIES]

    Oh noooo. I'm not a fan of rival battles. I hate going to Pokemon Centres because they, um, take too long. 8| So I usually heal only when I HAVE to meaning whenever the rival pops up to get in your face I struggle a lot. XD;
    Posted September 12th, 2008 at 08:59 PM by Cherrim Cherrim is offline
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    Platinum bug? [edit: ALSO LEGENDARIES]

    Also, your Rival appears A LOT more than usual in the game. O.o
    According to Marriland's awesome Platinum video's.
    Posted September 12th, 2008 at 08:45 PM by Tyrantrum Tyrantrum is offline
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    Platinum bug? [edit: ALSO LEGENDARIES]

    I'm excited about Platinum, but I still crossing my finger for a G/S remake.

    I was not going to by Platinum, but I played the Jap ROM a little, and I now have a desire to know what was being said (I don not speak or know how to read Japanese). So I will buy, when it arrives.
    Posted September 12th, 2008 at 08:45 PM by Shining Armour Shining Armour is offline
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    Platinum bug? [edit: ALSO LEGENDARIES]

    @Hiidoran: Well, I don't expect a TON from these games. They're just rehashes of the original two, after all. I get them just to say I have them, but I do like playing through them since by the time they come out, I feel like restarting my original game but I don't want to lose my save file so it works out. I just don't see why everyone thinks it's the BEST THING EVER since... it's still just a third-game rehash. ;

    @Wind~: Maybe. Yellow was the only game that wasn't the same thing over again. It was mostly the same but there were enough differences to make you want to play again (it mirrored the anime, which was the coolest thing ever when I was ten or whatever XD). From what I've heard, I just don't think there's enough added to merit all this hype. If they added the ability to go back to another region, now that would be interesting. But from what I've heard, they've just changed some gym leaders around, played with some movesets, and then added new forms for Pokémon. :/

    @BeachBoy: B-but I've always been disappointed with the third games. As I said just above, yellow was the only one that was really exciting because it wasn't exactly the same thing over again. Mind you, I've never really played through all that much extra content (I've still never gotten past the 4th or 5th badge in Emerald, eheh) but it's still the exact same game with a few tweaks. I've never seen the draw to it. (I get the games to say I own them and so that I don't have to restart my original game should I want to play that generation again.)

    It's not even that, either. It's mostly that but... I'm kind of getting sick of all these new forms of Pokémon. ;o; I miss the old days where, when you saw a Pokémon, THAT'S ALWAYS WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE. All this new-fangled stuff is so confusing. >:[ I just hate whining about this because it makes me such a hypocrite since my favourite Pokémon is basically Cherrim. (But even then, I greatly prefer its flower form, which is how it's shown in all media, so that's its "official" form and... and... I dunno where I'm going with this. ;;') idk, I'd prefer if they just made more Pokémon as opposed to just giving us the same thing, but altered a bit. :[

    ALSO THE CHERRIM MAKES ME SAD. I KNOW IT'S IN THE GAME. I HAVE TO KILL IT TO GET PAST THE GYM. BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW. ;_____;
    Posted September 12th, 2008 at 07:54 PM by Cherrim Cherrim is offline
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    Platinum bug? [edit: ALSO LEGENDARIES]

    You're not riding the wave of excitement? o0;

    I must say I'm actually surprised that you say this Erica. Platinum has numerous enhancements, so much so that in a way it compares with Generation II's (& III's) adds. Not to the same degree, but certainly a lot. Frankly I'm the opposite, but hey. *shrug*

    On Rotoms not being animal-like, well that's your opinion, nothing I can say. :x OMG I FREAKING LOVE A POLTERGEIST IN THE GAME!!111WERKLBNERGF

    Maybe gameplay will change your mind. There's a Cherrim in the game, shouldn't that be enough for you! ;O; [/kidding] Hopefully at some point you'll be able to get on the wave.
    Posted September 12th, 2008 at 07:17 PM by BeachBoy BeachBoy is offline
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    Platinum bug? [edit: ALSO LEGENDARIES]

    True, Emerald had minor changes, but, I think Nintendo might have realized they didn't make much of an improvement, and when they decided to make Platinum, they wanted to give players a better game(?).
    I think...:\
    Again, we all have our own opinions!
    Posted September 12th, 2008 at 07:12 PM by Tyrantrum Tyrantrum is offline
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    Platinum bug? [edit: ALSO LEGENDARIES]

    I understand what you mean.
    I've been playing my imported Platinum for quite a few hours now and I'm none too impressed. I suppose I just expected so much more, but it's very similar to the way Emerald was different from Ruby and Sapphire; nothing really revolutionary has been changed.
    Posted September 12th, 2008 at 07:11 PM by Hiidoran Hiidoran is offline
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    Platinum bug? [edit: ALSO LEGENDARIES]

    I have nothing wrong with this generation. :O I didn't really like 3rd gen but 4th gen is such an improvement. I probably only prefer the first two generations out of nostalgia, I can't be sure.

    Regardless, Platinum hasn't done much to make me excited for it. (Emerald didn't either and I'm STILL forcing myself to play Emerald just to finish it. x_x)
    Posted September 12th, 2008 at 07:04 PM by Cherrim Cherrim is offline

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