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    Hype, Pokémon, and Storylines

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    Update it now that BW2 and XY have provided perspective.
    Hmm, I would probably rather write other articles I have in mind (when I have time...) rn, but maybe? Although it would probably be better writing a new article instead (like a follow up).

    Hope that entertained at any rate.
    Posted 3 Days Ago at 05:38 AM by bobandbill bobandbill is offline
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    Hype, Pokémon, and Storylines

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    That is quite impressive!

    Luckily it is a ramble I prepared earlier. ;p http://bbs.studio-revolution.net/magazine/?p=58 On a webzine I run, although this was written some time ago (and co-written too for that matter)
    Update it now that BW2 and XY have provided perspective.
    Posted 4 Days Ago at 09:40 AM by BeachBoy BeachBoy is offline
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    Hype, Pokémon, and Storylines

    That is quite impressive!

    Luckily it is a ramble I prepared earlier. ;p http://bbs.studio-revolution.net/magazine/?p=58 On a webzine I run, although this was written some time ago (and co-written too for that matter)
    Posted 4 Days Ago at 05:26 AM by bobandbill bobandbill is offline
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    Hype, Pokémon, and Storylines

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    Correct. BW's story was the best of the three (and all the main games for that matter imo) - it's just that it's still lacking. But that's another ramble/rant. =p

    I think there was probably? Certainly the fairy type thing dominated a lot of discussions, haha.

    Platinum just had so much to do in it. Even though I preferred rse's contests, they were fun to do - add in berries and etc as well with that, the battle frontier (HECK YES THE ARCADE), the pokerader (I used that so much), the underground... it was stacked with things to do besides battling and catching them on. I love that too, but if that's all a game really has then after so many Pokemon games played already it just won't do enough even if the story was okay for myself to last as long as others. I play games for the gameplay most of all, especially with Pokemon. So that is why I preferred B2W2. It had more to do in them and was more polished overall.
    I still feel that my 175 streak in the Arcade is the greatest thing I'll ever accomplish in Pokemon. Glory days.

    And I would love to hear that ramble/rant.
    Posted 5 Days Ago at 08:12 AM by BeachBoy BeachBoy is offline
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    Hype, Pokémon, and Storylines

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    So, let me see if I understand: while you thought B/W had a superior storyline, it was B2/W2 that made it more preferable because of all the little things? And as for story: B/W > BW2 > X/Y ... Am I following you?

    As for the hype, I believe you're right. I wasn't around to see the X/Y hype, but I did wonder what is was like (please tell me there was a "Mr. Mime is now a fairy" thread).

    And I find myself finally appreciating DPPt for all it's worth. I miss them. I miss the Battle Arcade especially.
    Correct. BW's story was the best of the three (and all the main games for that matter imo) - it's just that it's still lacking. But that's another ramble/rant. =p

    I think there was probably? Certainly the fairy type thing dominated a lot of discussions, haha.

    Platinum just had so much to do in it. Even though I preferred rse's contests, they were fun to do - add in berries and etc as well with that, the battle frontier (HECK YES THE ARCADE), the pokerader (I used that so much), the underground... it was stacked with things to do besides battling and catching them on. I love that too, but if that's all a game really has then after so many Pokemon games played already it just won't do enough even if the story was okay for myself to last as long as others. I play games for the gameplay most of all, especially with Pokemon. So that is why I preferred B2W2. It had more to do in them and was more polished overall.
    Posted 5 Days Ago at 04:47 AM by bobandbill bobandbill is offline
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    Hype, Pokémon, and Storylines

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    Overall gen V imo were fun.

    Story wise - B2W2 was imo a step backwards again from BW which was the strongest by far from the main games, just... still weak when looked at. But that said, X&Y really went backwards imo in that regard. =( But ignoring that they were still fun Pokemon games. At least B2W2 still made actual characters out of a number of gym leaders for instance.

    Overall I much preferred B2W2. I felt it executed the smaller things better, and offered way more to do beyond the main quest (and really used wifi stuff well too). Join Avenue, the local wifi missions/minigames, white hollow/black tower being improved, the movies, the world tournament were all great additions in their own right. BW meanwhile just lacked besides explore other areas and the battle trains and catch them all, yadda yadda. Dream World just didn't cut it.

    On this:
    I think it is fair to say that people do this with every set of new games in fact. 4th gen had it too, for example. So did X&Y. Meanwhile, soon enough I anticipate DPPt to start getting the treatment RSE have the last few years when a wave of kids who started out with them start getting nostalgic and really appreciating them. Just like with RBY, and GSC. Screw the others, enjoy (or don't) each set of games in your own way imo.

    I also feel that it is better to try to not overhype new games too much. Lower expectations (=/= low expectations) means less dissapointment at worst, and greater surprises at best. It's now an advantage that the Japan release isn't a half year or whatever beforehand which I think contributed a bit to that with previous gens.

    (Also - hi!)
    So, let me see if I understand: while you thought B/W had a superior storyline, it was B2/W2 that made it more preferable because of all the little things? And as for story: B/W > BW2 > X/Y ... Am I following you?

    As for the hype, I believe you're right. I wasn't around to see the X/Y hype, but I did wonder what is was like (please tell me there was a "Mr. Mime is now a fairy" thread).

    And I find myself finally appreciating DPPt for all it's worth. I miss them. I miss the Battle Arcade especially.
    Posted 5 Days Ago at 04:33 AM by BeachBoy BeachBoy is offline
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    Hype, Pokémon, and Storylines

    Overall gen V imo were fun.

    Story wise - B2W2 was imo a step backwards again from BW which was the strongest by far from the main games, just... still weak when looked at. But that said, X&Y really went backwards imo in that regard. =( But ignoring that they were still fun Pokemon games. At least B2W2 still made actual characters out of a number of gym leaders for instance.

    Overall I much preferred B2W2. I felt it executed the smaller things better, and offered way more to do beyond the main quest (and really used wifi stuff well too). Join Avenue, the local wifi missions/minigames, white hollow/black tower being improved, the movies, the world tournament were all great additions in their own right. BW meanwhile just lacked besides explore other areas and the battle trains and catch them all, yadda yadda. Dream World just didn't cut it.

    On this:
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    I remember us creating the forum and posting the speculation threads and how awful it was prereviewed.
    I think it is fair to say that people do this with every set of new games in fact. 4th gen had it too, for example. So did X&Y. Meanwhile, soon enough I anticipate DPPt to start getting the treatment RSE have the last few years when a wave of kids who started out with them start getting nostalgic and really appreciating them. Just like with RBY, and GSC. Screw the others, enjoy (or don't) each set of games in your own way imo.

    I also feel that it is better to try to not overhype new games too much. Lower expectations (=/= low expectations) means less dissapointment at worst, and greater surprises at best. It's now an advantage that the Japan release isn't a half year or whatever beforehand which I think contributed a bit to that with previous gens.

    (Also - hi!)
    Posted 6 Days Ago at 10:14 PM by bobandbill bobandbill is offline
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    Hype, Pokémon, and Storylines

    @DJTiKi, much appreciated! Glad you threw your hat in the ring. I'm going to sweep back and go through, and I bet I'll agree with you.

    @Stargazer, what about that "challenge mode?"

    @Zach, hi. Yes that's me, haha. Drop me a vm, would be great to get to know you!

    @Jak. okay, gotcha :V
    Posted 6 Days Ago at 05:03 PM by BeachBoy BeachBoy is offline
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    Hype, Pokémon, and Storylines

    Ryan, keep your beachy butt here. :(
    Posted 1 Week Ago at 09:13 PM by Jak Jak is offline
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    Hype, Pokémon, and Storylines

    Ah, so the BeachBoy I've heard so many good things about from the older staff has come back to PC. :)

    BW and B2W2 were "okay" for games (still not as good as Gen 4 imo), but I dunno how to compare it to X and Y in terms of gameplay.
    Posted 1 Week Ago at 01:10 PM by Zach Zach is online now
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    Hype, Pokémon, and Storylines

    Generation V is my favorite, too, Black and White are pretty nice for the story and only using new Pokémon, and hold some nice challenges, especially the final battles with N and Ghetsis. As for the sequels, which are my favorite games in the series, they're not as much on the difficult side but have more to do, including more variety, more post-game and some good development throughout. You just have so much to do between both games.

    XY are a close second though, massive variety and cool 3D wins it for me.
    Posted 1 Week Ago at 11:43 AM by Stargazer Stargazer is online now
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    Hype, Pokémon, and Storylines

    I loved Generation 5, it still holds as my favorite, it had a lot of small tweaks that some people take for granted(like Reusable TMs and Dream World Abilities), it even expounded upon online play a bit. I loved story and gameplay(especially PWT!). All in all, I liked Gen 5, and Gen 6 kinda fell short for me, in a lot of ways.
    Posted 1 Week Ago at 10:51 AM by DJTiKi DJTiKi is online now
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    Hype, Pokémon, and Storylines

    Klippy! Another familiar name.

    Find it interesting that Black didn't cut it but X got you with the 3D. And yeah, Sapphire was my favorite, so I won't be able to resist the remakes.
    Posted 1 Week Ago at 09:04 AM by BeachBoy BeachBoy is offline
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    Hype, Pokémon, and Storylines

    I was done with Pokemon (again) after Black. I didn't enjoy it like I thought I would, but I ended up getting bamboozled into buying X because I liked the 3D battling and it looked fun.

    Overall I enjoyed it. It was fun. But I am still undecided on ORAS. (Someone will say, "You'll still get it") That's certainly likely. RSE was one of my favorite gens.

    Good to see you around, Ryan. Glad things are going well for you! And yes, the name changes make things completely confusing.
    Posted 1 Week Ago at 08:38 AM by Klippy Klippy is offline
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    Hype, Pokémon, and Storylines

    Fitting name, then.

    And forever is still forever. Least some things have stayed consistent.
    Posted 1 Week Ago at 08:31 AM by BeachBoy BeachBoy is offline
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    Hype, Pokémon, and Storylines

    Black is terrible couldn't play past the 5th gym #terrible
    Posted 1 Week Ago at 08:29 AM by hashtag hashtag is online now
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    Hype, Pokémon, and Storylines

    good choice pokemon black and white were the best games ever invented ever
    Posted 1 Week Ago at 07:58 AM by Forever Forever is offline
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    '11 reflection: JUMP, despite all that deny you.

    This is inspiring, good read!
    Posted December 9th, 2013 at 12:52 AM by Chronø Chronø is offline
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    Platinum Journal Entry VII - Battle Against the Soulful Dancer.

    Awesome Blog ! Just Awesome I love the way you make..
    Posted December 3rd, 2013 at 02:10 PM by ℨᶾanana ℨᶾanana is offline
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    '11 reflection: JUMP, despite all that deny you.

    Mm, what a great honest post Ryan. I didn't get to know you very well back in the day, but I wish that I did. Best wishes. - Jon
    Posted June 25th, 2012 at 01:45 AM by UntouchableJon UntouchableJon is offline

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