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  1. [Imaginative]:[Clockwork]
    August 3rd, 2011 07:13 PM
    [Imaginative]:[Clockwork]
    Oh, I see what you mean. If closing is really what drove everyone away, it seems like that could've been a huge blow to the section. I dunno, I still feel like at least a little buzz going around has to be better than everyone leaving. :/ Also, Jax (or I guess JX_Valentine, since I don't really know her that well) has a forum?

    Lately I've had a hankering for more long-winded titles but I can never think of anything clever enough to justify it. XD Thank you for your politeness. *bows*

    I know exactly what you mean. It seems like the last page is written in like thirty minutes while the rest takes days. That's typically the reason my endings are without description and full of typos. >.< It's too exciting.

    Oh yeah, I mean, if it's actually relevant and helpful then by all means, advertise. I'm just talking about people who cap off their posts with "Be sure to check out my story it's awesome ;D". For some reason that frustrates me greatly. >:/

    I just saw your post in Serebii's battle thread and that was a looooong one. Like JX length. XD Nice. I find it so odd that I have awards so often. It seems like it would take away the novelty. Congratulations, though! :D Also, I thought the interview thing was a cool idea. I'd suggest it for Serebii but all the ideas in the planning thread have pretty much been shot down and I have no justification other than "It sounded neat." Also, I doubt anyone would be willing to do it.
  2. Misheard Whisper
    August 1st, 2011 10:41 PM
    Misheard Whisper
    Well . . . no. Any activity is not necessarily good activity, which was the exact problem Astinus had with the FFL. Everyone was posting there when they could have been reviewing - in some periods, it moved as fast as the DCC (back when that moved fast too ). Also, it wasn't 'everyone', unfortunately. The newbie writers didn't really get in there, and if they did, they found the discussion moved far too fast for their liking and we were hardly expending all effort to bring them in and make them feel welcome. :/ It was a clique made up of the veteran writers. I had the balls to go in there pretty much right off the cuff and stick around, but in the year or so that I was there, I saw one new member become a FFL regular. One. (He then had a car accident and spent a week in a coma which left him unable to type properly so he kinda left.) The rest of the makeup didn't change the whole time I was there, and then when it finally closed everybody just . . . drifted away, leaving only the newbies behind. Dagzar and I hung around a little bit, but everyone else basically bogged off somewhere where there was more happening - be it Serebii, Jax's own forum or elsewhere. The golden days of the FF&W section were over, and although several attempts have been made to facilitate a renaissance (one such putsch is in progress right now), none have had any significant measure of success.

    And there's your history lesson for the day. XD

    One-word titles are for the absolute win, and 'aaa' is just me screaming from the awesomeness. Quietly and considerately.

    I actually do that too, posting things just before I go to bed. Partially because I love getting a review in the morning, partially because I often stay up late just to finish the chapter just five hundred more words a few more paragraphs nearly there oh god it's midnight doesn't matter I'm almost done and post it before dropping into bed.

    Yeah, I do avoid doing that. I will freely name-drop my fic, of course, but that's only when it's necessary. For example, in a discussion about battles, I feel much more comfortable posting an example from Champion Game or convalescence+convergence than just grabbing a good one I found in someone else's fic. I use my fics to answer questions pertaining to them directly as well, of course. Things like 'In your fics, how do you deal with sexual tension between your MC and their rival?' (Not that there's any of that in Champion Game. Yet.) But no, advertising like that is just a bit kablaah.

    And yeah, extra-long posts in the Author's Cafe threads are great. I've been doing long reviews over on Bulbagarden too, because that's essentially a new forum for me (although my account is now over two years old) and I want to make an impression. (It seems to work . . . I just won Best Newcomer in the quarterly awards, so . . .)
  3. [Imaginative]:[Clockwork]
    August 1st, 2011 08:34 AM
    [Imaginative]:[Clockwork]
    Yeah, I guess that would be a problem. Still, any activity is good activity right? And it seems that everyone was in that thread, so a clique consisting of the entire writing community would actually be cool.

    Devastated could've been one of Broken's working titles. XD I always try to avoid one word titles but I end up using them anyway since it always seems like I eventually find the perfect word and then can't add anything onto it to make it less plain.

    I can't believe it's been hiding from me for so long since it basically describes the majority of what I write. I didn't know what (b")b was at first but when I finally understood I was just like OH MY GOD THAT'S AMAZING. Also... what's "aaa"? /dumb

    Haha have you found the perfect time? I usually post my one-shots at night so maybe I can wake up to a review or something to brighten my morning. *shrugs* Random, but I've always liked your banner. When I first saw it, I though "I like that idea" and then wanted to steal the idea. Aaanyway, I wish I was as active as that. I usually just toss out a one-shot and hope someone takes a look. Also, if I ever post a review or in the Author's Cafe, I try to make my post look extra long so people will think "That ):;Imaginative?>?Clockwork*&^ guy knows what he's doing!" XP Maybe when I get a chaptered fic going I'll start the heavy advertising.

    (Also, please don't ever be one of those people who posts something that includes some obnoxious form of "Take a look at MY fic". ; At least be subtle or have it pertain to the discussion.)
  4. Misheard Whisper
    August 1st, 2011 02:07 AM
    Misheard Whisper
    Well, the reason it was closed was because it was getting all the activity and the section itself was getting none. Everyone came on to hang out in the FFL and we were all turning into some kind of horrible big clique thing. Ugh.

    Yeah, titles are horrible to try and come up with. For a while, I had this naming scheme . . . first came Torn, then Shattered, Broken and Crushed XD. Champion Game's working title was Devastated or something stupid for a while.

    Headcanon is a brilliant word that I only learned a few weeks ago XD And (b")b is one of the best smilies in the history of ever. aaa

    That's all you can really do, isn't it? I've realised lately how much actual work goes into becoming a 'successful' fanfic writer even after putting the words on the page. I've been experimenting with posting chapters on weekends, weekdays, different times on weekdays, reviewing popular stories so people will see my banner and so on . . . I'm waxing tangential here, but the point I'm trying to make is that writing fanfiction has a lot of PR involved. XD
  5. [Imaginative]:[Clockwork]
    July 31st, 2011 11:44 PM
    [Imaginative]:[Clockwork]
    Right now I have zero cred points based on join date. >:( Good Lord, that's a monster of a thread. They need to restart that. It's kind of funny/sad to see basically the same problems with the forum being discussed then and now. It's also odd that the kind of slow fanfic forum here gave birth to a 600 page thread. More of that "community" stuff, I suppose.

    I like the name. :) Titles are usually the bane of my writing experience since I can never think of anything snappy. I hope I can look back on it like a year from now and find some rough idea that I can polish into my own "Broken" but some of the ideas I have saved are just bad. There was one where some kid was watching airplanes and looking across the ocean at Mossdeep City (it was set in the past and the island was just being colonized or something) and he called it "Heaven" because it was like a neverending camping trip. I remember I was pulling so hard to set up a "fly to Heaven" thing at the end and then finally looking at it like ".... wtf am i doing...?" and tossed it. God, it was so awful. :P Some things are better left unwritten.

    *headdesk* I CAN'T THINK OF A SOLUTION. I'm so upset right now. On the plus side, you just introduced "headcanon" into my vocabulary. And (b")b.

    Oh yeah, I totally agree with her. It's just that "We were mentioned in the hate thread" is such a hilariously depressing statement. XD But yeah, I mean, I wrote Fad thinking it would probably attract some nostalgic readers but I really just expected it to disappear after a couple of "Aw, that's sad" replies. When it took off, it started to get really frustrating that there were so few actual reviews. It got to the point where people wouldn't even mention the story itself in their reply and would just dive into their own memories. :/ But oh well. I guess it got my name out there.
  6. Misheard Whisper
    July 31st, 2011 11:10 PM
    Misheard Whisper
    Yeah, that's pretty much the long and short of it. Some people do put a lot of stock in someone's join date, though. Yeah, the FFL was a monster of a thread. You could probably still dredge it up with a search in the Writer's Lounge - it used to be the biggest sticky there. Oh look, there it is. And check out the post stats. XD I had nearly 700 posts. At the time of its closure in early 2010, that was more than half of my postcount, haha. It was a brilliant community, though. It's the only reason I can sit around and chat with Jax and Astinus and Dagzar and all those other guys. :3

    Successful? I guess you could say that. But no, I will finish One Last Summer in the next couple of weeks, at least. And yeah, I have that unfinished one-shot catalogue somewhere too. I was flicking through it a few months ago, and I found this little thing called Broken. I think that one turned out all right XD.

    Headcanon is as good as canon to a fanfic author. (b")b Actually, that would make a surprising amount of- WAIT. In RS, we see Wally again AFTER battling and defeating Wallace! :0 What do we do now? @_@

    *sad high five* indeed. Jax was kinda right, though. I think I got maybe three useful reviews on New Game. The others were all just 'zomg you reminded me of my old blue version now i'm sad'. I mean, that was precisely the effect I was going for, but it was essentially the nostalgia value that got it the reviews it did.
  7. [Imaginative]:[Clockwork]
    July 31st, 2011 10:46 PM
    [Imaginative]:[Clockwork]
    I think as long as you're semi-active and don't suck at whatever you do people start lumping you in the "veteran" category soon enough. Was that a thread here? That sounds like an interesting hang-out spot, especially if it was as active as you make it sound.

    What a giant tease. I guess your successful chapter fic is a little more important than a random one-shot. It was probably wasn't meant to be. :( I have a ton of almost-or-partially-completed one-shots saved on my computer that I suddenly decided I hated in the middle of writing them. XD

    I would seriously love it so much if they made RS remakes that had some huge added subplot explaining Wally's evolution to Wallace (which I will now treat as fact and not just a fan theory). I'm just gonna go with the idea that he somehow fused with his Gardevoir, becoming the flamboyant man we see at the end of the game. It just has to be true.

    On a side note, I just saw that we were mentioned in the "Things you hate in fanfiction" thread. *sad high five*
  8. Misheard Whisper
    July 29th, 2011 01:16 PM
    Misheard Whisper
    I haven't been on the forums that long, I suppose - two and a half years, give or take a couple of weeks - but I somehow find that I'm categorising myself with the veterans rather than the newbies. I blame the old Fanfiction Lounge for that, because that was basically a great big hangout thread where we talked about writing, and I frequented that a lot back in '09. I got to know the older members and learned a lot from them. I still look up to them and place them on a different level, but for the purposes of my point, we're all pretty much groupable.

    Turns out I couldn't finish it, hehe. I got distracted by the chapter of Champion Game that I needed. I'll try and finish it sometime?

    OH GOD. WALLACE IS WALLY. That is freaky. They must have had some reason for doing that, because they normally never make two characters with the same name, especially not in the same game. Wow, that's actually worth thinking about. But I can't imagine Wally ditching his Gardevoir for those silly Water-types.
  9. [Imaginative]:[Clockwork]
    July 29th, 2011 09:43 AM
    [Imaginative]:[Clockwork]
    The secrecy-wink combo just makes it all the more painful to know I'm not allowed to see. If only I wasn't so cheap...

    The problem is that those authors (how long have you been on the forums? Those are all like the ancient legendary members XD ) usually don't give a lot of reasons to tear their stories down. And I'm also afraid of reviewing the first chapter of a really bad fic in a moment of generosity and then getting pressured to sticking with the whole thing even if I don't enjoy it at all. :/ I hardly ever review since it's usually more time-consuming than writing another one-shot. I have to go through this annoying process of organizing and re-reading and then they're usually only like half a page. The thing is, I actually like reviewing but the time it takes usually scares me off. I feel like I only write depressing one-shots too. My attempt at a "positive" one was a teenage girl choosing not to commit suicide but everything up until that point was bleak, bleak stuff.

    Don't feel pressured to do that just because of me. And you never posted it! D:< Lies!

    I did like finding him hidden away in that cave. I would have preferred a completely new Champion, though, or maybe your rival just for kicks. I just don't get why they picked Wallace. He's so forgettable no matter what position he's in. Why not Wally? Unless Wallace=time warp Wally. :O I've figured it out.
  10. Misheard Whisper
    July 25th, 2011 02:44 AM
    Misheard Whisper
    Seriously, I don't get the VIP forums either. :/ Not allowed to talk about what exactly goes on in there, though. ^_~

    But you see, as long as you deliver it with a smile, a mountain of cruel can be the best thing for an author. Maybe not for the new kids, but for those who've been in the business a couple of years or more (like me, Jax, Dragonfree, Breezy etc god I feel old next to those names) it's a wealth of important information. I've been working on my reviewing skills lately, and I'm now becoming known for my pages-long reviews as well as my depressing one-shots :/ (on Bulba at least).

    Well, I figured I'd turn my SWC entry-to-be into something of a sequel for Something Will Be Born, so look out for that, I guess? I hope to get it up tonight if I can finish it.

    Pretty much, eh? Steven Stone would have been fine as Champion in Emerald - better, even, because it would have gone well with his role in the Sootopolis Crisis. I guess Nintendo's logic was that they wanted the Champion largely removed from the legendaries' storyline, but they sure threw that out the window with Cynthia! ;
  11. [Imaginative]:[Clockwork]
    July 23rd, 2011 06:44 PM
    [Imaginative]:[Clockwork]
    I'm sure they're all secretly members of a genius cult speaking to each other in code but until I begin an investigation I just like to be annoyed. It's a blast.

    *falls on knees* I need to be a part of this VIP forum. I honestly can't imagine what you could talk about that it would need a private forum (unless you're member-bashing or something...).

    I almost hate giving reviews because I'm so much better at picking out the bad when I read and I don't want my review to be a mountain of cruel. I have to admit, I love a good journey and good English is just dandy. I would promise to review it but I'm horrible at keeping promises. I will make an attempt though! And maybe someday my hesitantly negative reviews will grace your thread! That's still quite a few, though, seeing as it usually seems to be just a few regular reviewers and then a few random "I've been reading! It's great!" guys who never review again for any longer fic. Haha it's no problem.

    D: Those poor people waiting for Cynthia's next move...

    Just like Juan. -_- I'll never understand why they replaced Wallace with a less interesting version of himself.
  12. Misheard Whisper
    July 22nd, 2011 02:30 PM
    Misheard Whisper
    Yeah. That'll fly. And I guess some people think strings of numbers make their usernames more unique? But really, if it's unique enough to begin with (like Misheard Whisper or [Imaginative]:[Clockwork]) there's no NEED to make it more so.

    The only real privilege of the VIP forums is that you get to read people's threads asking why there isn't more VIP stuff in the VIP forums.

    I actually know several reviewers who do that, actually. Farla There's an old adage in the fanfiction world - 'The only fics that get mountains of reviews are the really good ones and the really ****** ones'. People - myself included - love to tear apart bad fics, so that I can sort of understand. Unfortunately, everyone has a different definition of a 'good' fic. The one that seems to apply most to the above saying is 'journeyfic, not too dark, written by somebody with a competent grasp of the English language'. Those seem to be the main criteria for a 'good' fanfic. I like to think Champion Game is well written and interesting (I mean, I can't really judge because I wrote the thing) but I think I have maybe two or three people reading it at Serebii, one or two here, and three to five at Bulbagarden, judging by the people who've reviewed. Nobody's had anything particularly bad to say about it, and many do praise it, but it still seems to lack readership . . . oh, dear. I'm ranting about my own fics again somehow.

    Sequel? Oh, yeah . . . that. I honestly have no idea. I remember starting one, but Arceus only knows where the bastard disappeared to. :/

    Yeah, Wallace is kinda boring. He makes up for it somewhat by being excessively flamboyant and as camp as a row of tents, however.
  13. [Imaginative]:[Clockwork]
    July 22nd, 2011 01:53 PM
    [Imaginative]:[Clockwork]
    What I don't understand is why people create an already unique username and then add 457834589345 to the end. It makes me dislike them instantly. >:( Just tell them it's your brother or something. Who also writes fanfiction. In the exact same style as you.

    Ooh, VIP forums. Sounds exciting. ;D When I first found PC, I was used to Serebii so I was looking for it's main news site (Like Serebii.net to serebiiforums.com) and when I couldn't find one, I just didn't know the forums got so big. Guess they're just a cool place to be around.

    Before I made this account, I was still around Serebii so yeah, I saw a lot of her reviews and stuff. She seemed to gravitate toward the lesser-quality fics so she would be able to make an entire review out of negative comments. :( And yeah, it's just so clunky and only a couple of the themes don't give you a massive headache after a few minutes. Which is why I only use the default.

    Haha it wasn't that bad! But I could definitely see a huge improvement from that one compared to your more recent ones that I've read. Whatever happened to that sequel you promised everyone? xP

    Except Wallace, right? He's pretty boring.
  14. Misheard Whisper
    July 21st, 2011 09:50 PM
    Misheard Whisper
    Haha, well. It was a little noobish. At least I can proudly say I never appended strings of numbers to my username, though. (Also, if Serebii allowed it, I'd totes make a new account called Misheard Whisper. >_< )

    Yeah, people love PC. Some only donate because you get perks (access to 'VIP forums', bigger avatar size - which is why mine's 150x150 - more PM space, a blog and so on) but on the whole, I think there's just a lot of appreciation for the site and how it's run.

    I've noticed that double-barrelled sarcasm/cynicism thing, actually. Say, did you ever encounter a reviewer named Yami Ryu? She was banned some time ago, but I can't remember exactly how far back. She was one of the worst. Not sure what eventually got her banned, but let's just say nobody was sorry to be lacking her reviews of their fics. And god yes, that layout. >_< Where PC is clean and fresh and sharp, Serebii looks like a bulletin board from the age of Windows 2000.

    Why aren't I linking to it in my sig? Because it's OLD and it's HORRIBLE and also it's GHASTLYYYYY. And yeah, old. And I forgot about it entirely until Cynthia came up again.

    I have this strange fascination with Champions . . . >_<
  15. [Imaginative]:[Clockwork]
    July 21st, 2011 09:21 PM
    [Imaginative]:[Clockwork]
    Both of those reasons stand the test of time so well. It's almost a shame you changed it now that I think about it. XD

    People must be donating all the time 'cause I see those blue italicized names all over the place. I have to wonder what the many levels of authority are for though. Another difference: I can't imagine anybody ever donating to Sppf. ^^;

    It's just not a good place to get to know people, really. Most of the people who become friends there have a mutual love of sarcasm and cynicism which are both awesome but not when all the well known are all like that and chase off newbies. Also, I wish someone would update the layout. :/ It's from like 2006. There's a lot to complain about when it comes to Sppf. ;)

    I moved 'em all to the complete section at the same time. And Fad's got far too many reviews as it is (I don't want to sound ungrateful, though. I mean, I think it's seriously awesome that so many people enjoyed it and took the time to say so.). Ha, that was a nice read. Kind of a bleakness in the middle of the jolly little park. WHY AREN'T YOU LINKING TO THAT IN YOUR SIG?

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