lol, see you later.
Ah. I see. X3 I wonder why they didn't teach that in my school... oh well, the Georgia School system is not exactly up to par. This is going to be an interesting experience RPing with you. I'm Nideous, if my username didn't give it away. Even if it did, it's always polite to introduce oneself. Pleasure to meet you!
July 20th, 2013 7:38 PMCirrus
Anyway I'm off to do stuff. Bye.
(I'll probably post in the IC ... later? hopefully?)
July 20th, 2013 7:33 PMCirrus
The English subjunctive is essentially a purpose clause. It's most commonly used with verbs such as ask, request, urge, and so on as well as the that particle. There is sometimes no noticeable difference between the standard employment of a verb and its usage in the subjunctive, but sometimes there is:
He [leaves] at once.
I demand that he [leave] at once.
Probably the most noticeable usage is in "... [were]" phrases like "if it were me" or similar; however, the irreverent sameness of the verb to be is simply be when used in the subjunctive, which is equally irregular. But regardless of what the specific case is, it's quite likely that a good portion of people will mess up in the construction of the subjunctive.
(Of course, you can cheat by substituting a should clause. That's what they do in the UK, I believe.)
Latin's subjunctive has a lot more use to it (for example in the hortatory / jussive / volitive cases as well as being required for potentiality), but that is a different animal altogether.
July 20th, 2013 7:24 PMNideous
That's pretty cool. Also... I don't recall them saying anything about a Subjunctive Tense in my lessons in highschool. What is it?
July 20th, 2013 7:18 PMCirrus
Latin is a very syntactic language, because tense / conjugation / how you decline a word can mean a world of difference... I'm a lot more keen on capturing grammatical details due to my time studying it (for example, the subjunctive tense in English, which gets ignored half the time nowadays). So yeah that's why ... Latin. : o
July 20th, 2013 7:16 PMNideous
Don't feel sad! Because you aren't "Most people" that makes you different and unique. Differing views are the only way to grow as a person you know? If you find someone that sees things differently than you do and can have a nice peaceful discussion like you and I are now then it will broaden everyone's perceptions. And now i feel like I should be on that show G I Joe. >> Anyways. I look forward to RPing with you. I'm going to stop now, before i get long winded, and just leave it at that.
Also i don't know Latin, but i would love to learn it :D
July 20th, 2013 7:12 PMCirrus
I feel sad that I'm not "most people" =(
(But actually it's probably because of Latin.)
July 20th, 2013 7:07 PMNideous
That is true, but it is heavily implied. Argue perspective all you like, but most people would interpret it the way i did. It's just worded so awkwardly that it makes it hard to think that he meant it any differently. That's just my take on it, make of it what you will.
July 20th, 2013 6:59 PMCirrus
Yeah, I saw that, but you can interpret differently as well! Because he uses pluperfect for the first statement (heavily implied past of past) and past imperfect for the second, and since the general tone of the post is that he's basically ignoring everyone, it's possible to think that "(the agent is that) he noticed a Bulbasaur [...] (during the occurrence of) having scouted the place [etc]", so it depends on how you look at it. It's always nice to give the benefit of the doubt!
July 20th, 2013 6:48 PMNideous
", Adrian took up a casual stride and entered the PokeMart. Having scouted the place from the outside already, there wasn't much more to look at. He noticed a Bulbasaur sitting off to the side, and passed it off as Bill's?
That is taken directly from his post. He specfically sees the Bulbasaur inside, and he mentions others gathered as well. Not to nit pick, but it's the truth.
July 20th, 2013 6:34 PMCirrus
Re: Cosmic Fury's post: Dunno if it says explicitly inside; semi-implies it, but.