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  1. SSJ4 Furanki
    October 27th, 2012 05:47 AM
    SSJ4 Furanki
    Yeah, I got'cha. I've been using the fourth gen sprites as reference when re-coloring the 3rd gen ones. Some sprites will just be the 4th/5th Gen ones. Such as Charizard has its HG/SS sprite for the front and a re-colored one for the back. Sceptile will use its 5th Gen, a lot of Hoenn will since it has a better pallete than 3rd gen.

    Charizard Example - with screens:



    I went and made the waist a tad bigger, so it looks more natural. I will focus on correcting some of the shading after I work on more of the Pokémon.

    I fixed Bulbasaur and made it's face look more like 5th Gen and took the bottom from the 5th Gen sprite:
  2. RichterSnipes
    October 26th, 2012 08:15 PM
    RichterSnipes
    Re-coloring the Pokémon sprites, eh? Sounds like a neat idea, I kind of prefer that the games went for a more straight-up cartoonish look for sprites in the 4th and 5th Generation games versus the 3rd Generation. It looks like you've got a good grasp on what to do with them, but it seems a little more could be done about Bulbasaur, particularly with the face.

    As for the new Leaf (I'm guessing that's her canon game name, with Green being her manga name) sprite, it looks much better than before! There are two immediate issues that stick out, though. First, her waist is ridiculously slim. I don't think she can support her own weight given those proportions! And second, the overall shading seems to be a bit...off. It's definitely more of the style of the DS games than that of the GBA games (which is good), but it all comes off a bit flat.

    It's nice to see your progress, regardless!
  3. SSJ4 Furanki
    October 26th, 2012 04:16 AM
    SSJ4 Furanki
    Yeah, other than final forms, I'm taking the revamp approach, here's what I've got so far:


    Completely ignored the base for Leaf I had before and this is the new result:



    Since I couldn't get Red to look right without complete editing, I just used his HG/SS sprite and gave him a cocky smirk and erased the darkest skin shade so it makes him look a little younger.
  4. SSJ4 Furanki
    October 26th, 2012 02:59 AM
    SSJ4 Furanki
    At this point I'll have someone re-do the Red and Green/Leaf sprites. I've made sure to shrink it so it looks decent on the GBA. I noticed that a lot of people ignore shirking things for the DS. Hm, for Pokémon, I could always de-color everything and revamp them to look like 4th Gen/5th gen. That way they're the same size as they're supposed to be. Or I could just wait for Chaos Rush's project to finish.

    Overall I'm good with art, but, sprites are tougher due to how small everything it has to be, haha.
  5. RichterSnipes
    October 25th, 2012 06:28 PM
    RichterSnipes
    If you didn't see the response from long ago, I'm sorry. I screwed up how I sent it!

    DISCLAIMER: I'm not trying to be mean with the following comments, they're just constructive criticism. Art isn't for everyone, and what you've shown in the other departments is proof enough of your skills.

    Well, I guess that's the idea I had with Red. But now his right arm looks a bit stiff. And his face...it's a bit...derpy. Just the way his eyes are in comparison to his mouth. The Green/Leaf sprite is another improvement, but it still doesn't look like it's at the same quality as the HG/SS sprites. I think at this point it might be better to find a spriter. But, before you consider that, read the rest please!

    I just mentioned the Sabrina sprite because of how different it was to the original art compared to the other sprites. Technically you could find little nagging problems with all of the sprites. Like with Blue, there seems something different about him in his HG/SS sprite, but I can't put my finger on it. What I'm trying to say with that is that it isn't necessary to change Sabrina's sprite just for that. Her HG/SS sprite is still recognizably her, perhaps just a bit modernized.

    If anything, I think the issue you'll run into with the HG/SS trainer sprites is that all the sprites that you don't change are going to be a lot smaller in comparison. Also, all the Pokémon sprites will be off in size by comparison, especially when you compare sizes in the Pokédex. Obviously you can't import all the DS sprites because several of them won't fit within the GBA's 64 x 64 pixel limit, and using shrunk versions of them defeats the entire purpose of using larger trainer sprites.

    So, I guess the big question is...Is it really worth it to change the trainer sprites from their FR/LG versions if it's going to lead to that many issues? I'll let you answer that yourself!

    I hope all is going alright, by the way.

    *ADDED DETAIL* I realized that many other hackers have ignored these consistencies when using different sprites in their GBA Pokémon hacks. If you feel comfortable with the work you've done, then just go with it. I'll be fine either way.
  6. SSJ4 Furanki
    October 8th, 2012 10:44 PM
    SSJ4 Furanki
    These are the most current versions, taking your suggestion of the happy look while still being HG/SS/BW/BW2 style.




    And originally I was gonna use Sabrina un-edited, but, this is what I edited it into. It keeps the FR design for the most part, but, I kept the green color and wristbands from the HG/SS one:

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