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November 20th, 2009 02:05 AMGold warehouselmao, the picture of Bush in the signature kind of gave it away, but I didn't think a troll would bother to put that much effort into their responses, there's no denying it now after that last reply though.
RatM's lyrics contain typically left-wing ideas, it's what you were implying.
November 19th, 2009 02:49 PMAgent CobaltDid I call you as Communist? Kid, unless you actually intend to address my points and rebut me, don't bother making new posts on my page. Don't think you need to resort to hit and run posts laced with non-sequiturs to save face. It's an abortive effort at best.
November 19th, 2009 02:05 PMGold warehouseI'm not sure what you're trying to achieve by attempting to assert your dominance over me, but there's no need to ~waste your valuable time~ really now, we could throw facts at each other about various different wars for a while and end up getting nowhere, but that's not the point of this. The bottom line is, war is not a good thing and America's acts are no more respectable than those of any other nation. After burning Tokyo, flattening Hiroshima & Nagasaki and all you can say is "well, Japan is still standing today." If that is not 'barbaric', I don't know what is.
Also, I love how you assume I am a communist supporter, lulz.
November 18th, 2009 03:54 PMAgent CobaltI doubt you could, because you really don't know what you're talking about nor could you counter what I've written with any historical substance. You've demonstrated your inability to grasp history or read in depth about the great conflicts you attempt to spout off about. And quite honestly you're just a typical rage-against-the-machine youth willing to act up when it comes to easy targets like Bush but easily silenced and quieted once actually confronted with facts. You're not the first one to challenge me and turn tail as a last resort against your better. And honestly it's not new, and it's getting old.
You think you're all that trying to contradict me in a topic but then too busy or not committed enough to be bothered with a block of text obliterating your argument. I don't mind you giving up, though. Honestly it saves me the trouble of constantly having to set the record straight. But honestly it's annoying to have to respond to the nonsensical ramblings of anti-Bush kids that use, not logic to make points or prove me wrong, but non sequiturs and logical fallacies.
Don't feel bad though, you're like the ninth one on this site to do this and get plowed aside. No hard feelings. Just don't do it again and don't think you have anything to prove by taking me on. Appreciate it.
November 18th, 2009 03:34 PMGold warehouseI'm sure I could conjure up a suitable reply if I had the time and willpower, but what would be the point? It's obvious you're a typical pro-American, blind to the rest of the world around you, who cannot be coerced into seeing common sense. Your time can't be that valuable if you can find the time to write that much senseless rambling to someone a Pokemon forum.
November 18th, 2009 03:28 PMAgent CobaltYeah that's what I thought.
Next time you want to challenge someone that actually knows what they're talking about, make sure you're not biting off more than you can chew. Don't waste my time next time, guy.
November 18th, 2009 03:25 PMGold warehouselol, I can't be bothered to read all of that BS, I just don't give a damn about your blind pro-America ramblings + I find it hard to take anyone who has a picture of George Bush in their signature seriously. I'm sorry that you have been brainwashed by propaganda.
November 18th, 2009 03:17 PMAgent CobaltQuote:This was not a selfless act to fight against tyranny, as you make it out to be, Lend-Lease brought benefit to the US, they were making profit from a war they refused to take part in
Even then, though, you're distorting the purpose of Lend-Lease into being some war profiteering effort, which it wasn't. The goal of Lend-Lease was to halt the spread of Fascism and preserve the Allies. You're framing this around whether the US benefited from it, rather than why it was done, and that's not going to get you anywhere.Quote:You failed to notice my sarcasm here, of course the Soviets were selfish and aimed to conquer parts of Eastern Europe. My point is, America is no better, no nations are really. Even Britain and France only declared war because they were fearful of Germany's increasing power.
And had you any grasp of history you wouldn't have made such a foolish remark to begin with. The United States was absolutely better than the Soviets. Only one who's either blind to the actions of both nations in that war and afterward or one who is ignorant of reality would claim the role of the US to be no better than that of the USSR. Which nations in that war did the US enslave and turn into puppet colonies? Last time I checked, the people were trying to flee the East for the West, and I think you know why.
The Soviets were no different than the Nazis in their brutality, actions, policies, and goals. I can never understand moral relativists that actually have it in their heads that all nations are equal in standing. The USSR and USA were incomparable when it came to anything, other than maybe size. To say that the United States, no nation even, is better than the Soviet Empire was is to play the fool.Quote:What about China, Russia and North Korea? I don't seem to recall America "liberating" them, oh that's right, they're too powerful and there's no easy way the US can screw their country up.Quote:Korea was split up due to the allies in the first place due to the aftermath of WWII, it was in America's own interest to prevent the North from conquering them. The same applies for all the countries you listed, it was all part of the feud between the USSR and the USA, not because America wanted to protect those countries at all.Quote:It's funny that you should mention Afghanistan, the very country that our nations are fighting against at this moment; America provided them with plenty of weapons to shoot the Soviets with, they're probably using the same weapons to shoot back at their suppliers now.Quote:Germany was weak because of the Treaty of Versailles, put upon them by the Allies. That is why the Nazis came to power, even then nobody retaliated because they didn't care until after they started becoming too powerful and conquering neighbouring nations.Quote:Killing helps keep the peace? What. Of course peace arrives after everything's been destroyed and thousands have been killed, because there's nothing left to fight for. You seem to be forgetting the definition of the word 'world' in this case.Quote:The Taliban only came to power because America failed to aid Afghanistan in the aftermath of the Soviet-Afghan war, once the war was over and the Soviets had withdrawn there was nothing to gain by continuing to interfer in Afghanistan's matters, so they were left to fight amongst themselves.Quote:The military causes just as many problems if not more than the amount it solves.Quote:I'm not a pacifist and I realise that war is sometimes inevitable, but you're trying to claim that war brings good to the worldQuote:and that America is on a mission to save the world by killing "barbarians" whilst aiding and saving the innocent in an act of complete selflessness, which is entirely untrue.
November 18th, 2009 12:52 PMGold warehouseQuote originally posted by Agent Cobalt:The United States got in late, absolutely. Once in, though, our goals were clear. And even before entering, we made it a huge part of our policy to fight the Axis Powers through programs like Lend-Lease. We did our best to arm, aid, even feed our allies in an attempt to undermine and halt the Axis Powers. So throw away the historical revisionism.
Quote:Three words- The Phony War. The Soviets, up until their invasion by the Nazis, were the willing co-conspirators of the Nazis and Axis Powers. For some time the USSR was considered by many as part of the Axis. They worked alongside the Nazis to conquer, dominate, and tear apart Europe for their empire.
Quote:I think South Korea, the Dominican Republic, Greece, Nicaragua, Afghanistan, and Eastern Europe would disagree.
It's funny that you should mention Afghanistan, the very country that our nations are fighting against at this moment; America provided them with plenty of weapons to shoot the Soviets with, they're probably using the same weapons to shoot back at their suppliers now.
Quote:That equation is missing something. What did we do after the war? Oh right, we disarmed, as did the world. I'll repeat myself- War comes, not when the forces of freedom are strong, but it's when they're weak that tyrants are tempted.
Quote:Killing sure ended the Pacific War and brought peace there. It ended the War in Europe. Killing has done a lot of good and helped keep the peace. When's the last time Germany's invaded a democracy? It's called the Democratic Peace. The United States is not actively liberating everyone, no, but it is benefiting the world with its actions against our enemies, for our enemies are the world's enemies.
Quote:I think the Afghans would disagree. Or should we have bribed the Taliban?
Quote:Yeah, and how effective are they? I still see global warming activists running around, but every day I'm learning we're even closer to Armageddon. My point was that I'm actually being active in solving real problems for real people.
I'm not a pacifist and I realise that war is sometimes inevitable, but you're trying to claim that war brings good to the world, and that America is on a mission to save the world by killing "barbarians" whilst aiding and saving the innocent in an act of complete selflessness, which is entirely untrue.
November 17th, 2009 05:31 PMAgent CobaltDone.
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