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  • Once I rule the universe, I'll dedicate a week to have constant rainy weather for you. Do you like thunderbolts? I can throw a couple of them into the mix to give a real shocking experience for the world. I'll have those random black thunderclouds follow above your enemies and zap them periodically too! What do ya say?
    Howdy sunshine.

    How's it hanging? I've finished with uni, so I'm in a good mood. I was watching the Eurovision and the group from Georgia sang this amazing song.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ7SGWZt9Zo

    I was wondering, whenever you have some spare time, if you could make an AMV with it. I dunno what anime to use, but it should involve lots of Dark themed scenes and such.
    Yeah, that pretty much sums it up. You can create a new type of morality as is such, but you'd be hardpressed to get it to work. Anyway, one other criticism I have of it is that, with the limited senses of humans, it will be hard to practice. How, for instance, will one individual know if what he's doing will affect the species for better or worse, and how practical is it when this effect on the species is so incredibly small to be negligible. Example: A doctor has to take the life of a patient who is in pain (euthanasia). There is nothing special about this patient, except for the fact that he has about the same opportunities for furthering the species, if alive, as everyone else. If the doctor, based on your morality, chooses not to euthanise the patient, then he will remain alive and in pain. Also, if this pattern continues, the hospital will become overcrowded. The doctor cannot possibly factor in all the variables by himself.
    Same reason for not replying plus I was busy. I can't really think about things when I'm busy because something garbled comes out when that happens.

    Well, yes, I was looking at it from a practical standpoint. From your question, I also want to ask you what you mean by create? If, by create, you literally want to instill a new form of morality based upon these ideals into humans, then that's intensely idealistic and will require a massive shift in the human psyche. If you want to develop a hypothetical theory, then that's something different. You can postulate the existence of such a form of morality, but that's as far as it goes. Can you expand on what you mean by create?
    A friend of mine likes to identify himself as Pastafarian. I've read the whole FSM Gospel.

    Morality on that standard can indeed be derived from such events. However, this is an idealistic view of morality. The world as we know it doesn't work that way, and only the really virtuous (virtuous as defined by Aristotle) would be able to naturally embody such a form of morality. In reality, and this is the blunt truth, people are naturally pre-disposed to be self-centred. Every action undertaken is a way to pleasure oneself or to conform to societal norms and preserve the status quo, and ergo happiness(stability) of society, which then leads back to the individual's happy life. For example, giving change to a homeless person, you may either feel happy at having done a good deed, or you may feel happy that people have seen you do it and now see you as a relatively decent person and thus raise the overall happiness or society.

    On the other hand, what you're describing, and this is what I assume you're describing, is that any objective action for the greater good is good. Like I've said, this type of morality can only truly exist in virtuous people. For instance, take the scenario of a nuclear holocaust in which the only survivors are eight children and eight adults. There is only enough food to feed one of the two groups. Now, imagine that you can only choose to feed one group. (This is a thought experiment to test the boundaries of your view of morality so just ignore the logic of the situation and concentrate on the dilemma.)

    In normal morality, feeding the children is good because of all the moral dilemmas involved in killing children. Nietschean morality mostly deals with survival of the fittest so we won't use that. In your morality, however, killing the adults is bad. The children won't survive on their own anyway. Letting the adults live is 'good' because the species benefits as they can procreate. Children can't.

    So yes, in conclusion, this kind of morality can exist, but, in certain cases, it conflicts so much with regular morality that practicing it is hard. Other examples deal with the greater survival of the species being too far out of the scope of normal people to notice.
    Curiously enough, if you're an atheist (which I'm not), these moral standards are, in fact, a lie, as you say. The actual moral code was set down by religion (if not created out of natural compassion) as an attempt to being order into an otherwise anarchic environment. However, this anarchy, again if you think about it, is all part of nature and survival of the fittest, so it's nothing more than natural chaos, the way the world is. Religion may not have created it, but it certainly consolidated the essence of compassion in a more objective format.

    I'll take that as a compliment. I feel like finding a logical reason for everything in the world from traffic to racial behaviour, but I find myself limited by the fact that I don't have that much time on my hands.
    It's more to do with evolutionary instinct. If our ancestors stayed in the rain, they'd be more susceptible to disease.

    If, as you say, its the result of a flaw in people's thinking, then I have this to say. Any lie, spoken long and loud enough, becomes the truth once a majority start to believe it. The same goes for dislikes. Social conditioning forces people to dislike something to uphold the status quo and eventually said object becomes hated by virtue of everyone hating it. For example, red sometimes being the connotation of evil.
    It's a random question, unless I'm missing something, but whatever. I do it all the time too.

    If you're asking my opinion, people dislike the rain because of all its negative connotations. For one, nobody feels really comfortable when wet and you can't do much in the rain. Also, rain brings with it a darkening of the sky and hence a lower level of light, which some people find depressing. As for me, I love the rain. I can't however, get myself excited by British rain because it's really nothing in comparison to what I'm used to.
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    In any case, you should have had a longer pause between the two VMs (days or so), reflecting your visit to Miniluv. That would have been amazing.
    and another gone and another gone another one bites the dust..hey gonna get you too another one bites the dust
    But you do not have to punctuate each sentence with an example of your prowess.

    The very essence of blackwhite and doublespeak is the rejection of this objective truth and the total submission to him. A better life is also subjective. Your view of a better life is that which the proles see as an unattainable utopia, such as the ones you can read in the prolefeed. Basically, they will dream of it, but this same yearning makes them see it as just that, a dream. Nothing worth striving for.

    The paintings... Of course, it is a favourite method of the thoughtpolice, used many times before. I wish you the best of luck. They may not kill you, but... let's just say I have seen this one senior frequent a tavern. The most patriotic of the lot. Loves 'him' or so he claims. But he has been through the fire. The barkeep tells me so.
    Comments like that make you look like a pundit in wordplay.

    Consciousness is subjective to definition. In this case, I view consciousness as becoming aware of the opression that they, the proles, are living through. Unfortunately however, the proles, as of yet, have no need to become conscious as life for them has been the same as always. What does it matter to them if we lock horns with Eastasia/Eurasia, so long as they are kept contented.

    Have you scrutinized every corner of the shop? A telescreen may be hidden in the most obvious of places. When you are detected, I will be powerless to help, and I will alter my IP to avoid being implicated. I have said too much.
    Indeed. Quite bad taste I might add. You should be punished.

    You have read 'the book'? The book in itself has certain truths yet... it outlines nonsense, or so one Inner Perty member tells me. Be wary of the screens. If you stray from their sight for too long, they will begin to suspect you.
    Heh, that sounded like a pun.

    Are you a follower of Goldstein? Thoughtcrime like that can get you arrested, friend.
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