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  1. DBZ fan
    August 11th, 2015 11:23 AM
    DBZ fan
    I know. Not to mention Brock and Gary changed their goals realizing how they want to become something else in life. But Misty never changed her goals. Even after taking over gym she still expressed desire to leave and travel not forgetting how she wanted to become water master and maybe E4 member one day. With sisters just not giving her much of choice, unless she wants to risk their hometown gettng wrecked.

    Real queston is why writers portrayed Misty that way? They could made her change her dream deciding how being gym leader is enough for her. But they did opposite portraying her as sad and disappointed affirming how sisters are main reason behind staying at gym not abandoning her dreams. Thus leaving her future completely unclear and unfinished.

    Only logical explanation is that writers left everything convoluted and undefined on purpose because of planning to bring her back resolving problem with gym and substitute(they even started making Daisy seem abit more comfortable with gym and battling when spending time with Misty like in Luvdisc episode). But for some reason they changed their mind forgetting to give Misty closure which is unacceptable.
  2. DBZ fan
    August 10th, 2015 12:34 AM
    DBZ fan
    About that kid from Hoenn, Misty was already active gym leader with kid Jimmy saying how he got badge from Daisy, because Misty wasn't in gym. This indicates how either Misty went to Pallet town visiting Tracey and professor Oak. Or she went on short journey to possibly catch new pokemon or enter some tournament. In reality its unown why Misty wasn't at gym, because it was never explained. But this happened after Misty already released Togetic returuing back from Hoenn.

    Ash proved that when saying to Jimmy shocked after seeing his badge how he must be very good trainer when he managed to defeat their friend Misty(before Ash find out how he got it from Daisy). Ash talks in plural showing how May and Max already met Misty becoming friends with her.

    This episode proved how Misty sisters are still technically gym leaders, just passive ones(reserves). With Misty even expressing sadness and disappointment several times in chronicles and in &quot;A Real Cleffa Hanger!&quot; over her sisters being lazy not doing their chores and responsibilities at gym. Having to takre care of things herself preventing her from going on longer journey to advance her dreams.

    Heck, even when she does temporary short travels visiting Ash at Pallet, sisters are already rushing her home not wanting to battle challengers. Daisy even treatened how she will give trainers gym leaders without battling in Misty last appearance with Misty being frustrated and saddened over sisters not understanding her own desires and needs. Talking with Max about it and delaying coming back. Being more interested in traveling with Ash and being with friends again. She even said at end of episode how she &quot;unfortunately&quot; have to go back to gym.

    Yeah i know, writers did Misty big injustice. She clearly wants to become water pokemon master and E4 member if her idolization of E4 Lorelei was something to take in account. Taking over gym brecause of incompetent sisters who almost get it shut down.

    With writers leaving Misty story completely unfinished and future uncleared of what will be of her dreams and in what direction her life will go. Indicating how they on purpose had Misty not abandon her dreams and changing goal like Gary and Brock did, portraying her as disappointed at gym taking care of it out of necessity revealing desire to leave and showing to have higher dreams she wants to achieve than being gym leader. To have easier way to justify Misty return in case they ever decide to bring her back de to not being set up and defined her future.
  3. DBZ fan
    August 8th, 2015 12:13 AM
    DBZ fan
    I know,it seemed to me there circulated lot of confusion and disinformation around. So i contacted member in question over there trying to help clear out situation regarding gym and presenting dialogues, scenes in episodes and what was writers point decided to be decanted on screen in original version. About Misty status as gym leader before returning back to Cerulean and how she felt about this new obligation forced on her. Showing desire to leave on journey again not giving up from her dreams, but also knowing she has no choice due to not having anyone to rely on.

    Pokemon wikia can be edited by anyone, so whole information about Misty not being gym leader before was written by someone who obviously ddn't had his facts straight. Not being familiarized much with this situation and what was said in older episodes confirming how there existed 4 Cerulean gym leaders at time Misty travelled with Ash.
  4. DBZ fan
    August 6th, 2015 11:29 PM
    DBZ fan
    Hi, sorry for not getting to you earlier. But with current work i have over summer dont leave me much free time for other things. Barely coming on sites like this one. Ill be more active once this is over.

    But to answer your question i dont recall exact dialogue word by word persay. But PIA inspector Joy congratulated Misty saying how she passed test and can continue to be gym leader. Resuming her position and asking Joy to tell ASh if she meets him how everything is fine passing test in saving gym from being shut diwn. That test was never about Misty becoming gym leader, but in reactivating her status as gym lader resuming duties.

    Not to mention i talked to other members who are fluent Japanese speakers such as Adamant, Dogasu or Sushi and all of them confirmed how Misty was gym leader before meeting Ash.

    Misty mentioned several times how she was Cerulean gym leader in Original series. Whether it was when someone insulted Pewter and Cerulean gyms with Misty and Brock demanding from Ash to defend their reputation as gym leaders like trainer AJ. Or when introducing themselves to others.

    In Totodile duel Misty mentioned how she has reputation as Cerulean gym leader to defend on stake with this battle "being opportunity to settle down unfinished work started way back in Kanto at Cerulean".
    I recall Misty saying to Molly in third pokemon movie how she is against one of Cerulean gym leaders. Etc.

    In "Waterflowers of Cerulean City!"(7th episode)Misty presents herself as 4th Sensational sister and gym leader according to original version. With Daisy saying how she is only one having pokemon ready to battle-
    Which would explain why battle between Misty and Ash in 7th episode at Cerulean was treated as official with Misty setting rules with none of her siblings objecting at that.

    Misty was passive gym leader in Original Series just like Brock was when traveling with Ash or Cilan in Unova. Reserve(frozing mandate of her gym leader status)when deciding to go on journey to pursue her own dreams of becoming water master. With Daisy, Lily and Violet being put in main charge of it.

    Once Misty took over in chronicles she reactivated her gym leader status with Bulbapedia confirming that by saying how Misty resumed her post as gym leader in Trivia section of Cerulean Blue! episode. But Serebii as well in its description of what was said in tthat euisode under episode guide section.
    With Misty older sisters becoming reserves as confirmed when Daisy gave badges when Misty was away(such as to that kid in Hoenn saying he got badge for cleaning pool or in "Real Cleffa Hanger!" when Misty scolded Daisy on phone for planning to give challengers badges without battling them.

    It was also established through Takeshin Shudo novelizations how one of ways to be gym leader is through family tradition and according to mr. Shudo blogs gym was left to be lead by their daughters, including Misty.

    Hope this helped.
  5. Wobbu
    April 6th, 2015 6:13 PM
    happy anniversary :D
  6. Serena08
    April 6th, 2015 9:43 AM
    Happy anniversary!
  7. Rukario
    April 5th, 2015 9:48 PM
    Happy Anniversary, Happy Anniversary, Happy Anniversary, Happy Anniversary, Happy Anniversary, Happy Anniversary, Happy Anniversary, Happy Anniversary, Happy Anniversary, Happy Anniversary!
  8. Otter Mii-kun
    April 5th, 2015 7:08 PM
    Otter Mii-kun
    I don't think anybody else has noticed, but I'd like to say Happy 10th PC-versary (even though you've been off most of the time during college)!
  9. Gligar
    April 4th, 2015 12:13 PM
    I don't get you, why don't you have an avatar. I mean, you're getting kinda popular in the anime section.
  10. Gligar
    April 4th, 2015 12:02 PM
    Hawlo there, how's it going?
  11. IcyIce
    March 19th, 2015 6:39 PM
    And the director is the same. He was never fired according to what I have read.
  12. IcyIce
    March 14th, 2015 12:02 PM
    I didn't want to get off topic on the Team Flare post, but yes I think only 3 Showcases are needed to rank up. They haven't really said if there is a showcase they must be completed after the 3rd win to rank up. There needs to be a little more info about them. As for the shortest run between gyms. I think you are correct. I cannot think of any right off the bat that were shorter runs unless it was in Johto that was really close together.
  13. Ash
    January 10th, 2015 11:27 AM
    Eh, that may be the case but I'm left that topic ages ago and don't plan on going back to it.
  14. DBZ fan
    January 6th, 2015 2:17 AM
    DBZ fan
    I did it already, but i guess in this thread and poll more supporters of other characters came and gave their vote of who they like best. Sometime Misty will win, sometime she will lose in polls depending on number of voters and who comes and vote. Many Misty fans left forums being discouraged and losing hope of Misty ever coming back, showing to be the case with lack of support for her in forums over past few years. After not returning in person for almost 10 years.

    We can only hope that writers will recognize potential, appeal and popularity Misty as charscter holds deciding to soften up their inconsiderate policy and bring her back. Because demand for return is huge, people like her colorful persponality and want to see justice made with her unfinished story.
  15. DBZ fan
    January 4th, 2015 6:48 AM
    DBZ fan
    Hi there. Just wanted to say that i agree with more or less everything you said in my reply in Misty dreams thread. With reply not being required, and i believe thread served its point very well helping to many who came into that thread and read it to understand what in reality water pokemon master means, what was established in canon about path to walk upon in order to achieve it. Along with clearing out false beliefs circulating around it.

    So continuation may not be needed.

    I just want to say how regarding whole water master thing berng dub edit. Bulbapedia refutes that by mentioning how title water master was brought up in Japanese original version as well. I used to talk about it with fluent Japanese speakers and reputable members Sushi and Adamant(on serebii known as dephender)who know Japanese and one of them lived there. They confirmed how in Japanese version it was several times through episodes stated how Misty wants to become water pokemon master being definitely something writers wrote in scripts and came up with.

    So whatever Dogasu may have said he made mistake, which i presume he corrected or should had by now.

    p.s. By the way all the best in 2015!

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