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  • I've just been busy with school and crap. I've been meaning to get on, but i haven't. definitely soon tho
    ill check it out tonight! :)

    you may have saw that i logged off right after you sent it- I'm not ignoring you, just need to get homework done lol
    we can discuss anarchy here

    and by the way I'm more active on my discord now

    John Henry (BadSheep) #8563 I think. if that doesnt work, msg me
    I think voting is sometimes moral, but sometimes not moral. For example, I could not morally vote for Trump because he will increase government somewhere else, but decrease it in another. I could only morally the vote for a candidate that increases government only. Its like self defense- I can initiate force if I am attacked, but not if I am not attacked. However, I am mixed on whether or not voting matters.
    At first i thought he was defending trump because everyone hates him lol. But other than that, I pretty much agree with him on a lot of stuff except maybe voting.

    What is your opinion on voting? Is it moral? Is it right? Does it contradict our philosophy?
    Same. I dislike that he is suddenly pro-closed border. He says its justifiable to initiate force for close borders to prevent a greater initiation of force. But now he is mixing philosophy with a pragmatic argument. So idk about him anymore.
    No problem! Rothbard makes everything pretty easy to understand to be honest.

    Some questions are fun to answer, and challenging, but others are just so common its ridiculous. How many times have your heard the "muh roads" argument?
    I watch Molyneux, and he has certainly helped a bit. Read Rothbard. you can't be Ancap without naming your children Rothbard or reading him. xD
    well i was a neo-conservative for a while, then I found a libertarian instagram page and I was sort of interested. I was a paleo-conservative for a while and started some more research. Then I discovered the N.A.P, and slowly became a minarchist. after that i read a lot of Rothbard and read more on property rights. So i became a Voluntaryist.

    I consider myself a Voluntaryist because it allows for more things, unlike Ancap. Ancap is sort of like Ancom- it does not allow for communes or voluntary governments, which goes against my philosophy against coercion. Then again, thats sort of my definition of Ancapism. Honestly, Voluntaryism and Ancapism are pretty much interchangeable. And I dont consider myself Rothbardian because I disagree with him on some things, but I do agree with him on voting, unlike other Voluntaryists/Anarcho-Capitalists. Voluntaryism also sounds better to stat its being drawn in. Anarcho sort of pushes them away...
    interesting. there are only a few libertarians on the form that I have found.

    I am a Volutaryist, but I see it occurring peacefully because I feel like violence wont achieve anything but another government (like French Revolution).

    1. People must lose all respect for the fiat currency and the Fed abolished. This can occur by auditing it.
    2. People must realize that they can rule themselves, and that the government has no true authority. The government only has authority as long as people think it does.
    3. A man or woman must be elected president and slowly restore power to local towns and cities in a process called localization
    4. After private organizations have been formed and roads slowly privatized to stock companies, the public will not have to worry about instant crime, and there will not be any reason to have a government.
    5. This state of anarchy must stay in place for at least 1-2 generations before people get used to it, so a bad incident will not result in a provisional government that will result in another government.
    6. The rest of the world will follow our example.

    I haven't thought too much how to achieve it, but education is the best way in my opinion. You? In addition to this question, do you prefer the term Anarcho-Capitalist, Voluntaryist, or Anarchist? Would you consider yourself a subset of these, such Rothbardian?
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