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  1. BettyNewbie
    February 9th, 2015 11:08 AM
    Seems there's a split between Kanto remakes being ORAS style or (another) FRLG style (some of us say we'll like to see HGSS style but the middle ground seems to be slipping for us...)
    It's less of a real split, and more of that one certain stubborn poster hating change and new things and wanting every remake to be a cheap copy/paste of the original. I think most people would prefer a HGSS/ORAS style remake over another FRLG, trust me.

    May you post in the XY third version and Gen VII threads? No one has responded to my ideas it seems...(do you have any threads that could use bumping?)
    I'll see what I can do. Think you could post in my "Original vs Remake: Gym Leaders" thread in the Gen 1-2 subforum? That one seems to have been a dud for some reason.
  2. Makoto Tachibana
    February 9th, 2015 02:14 AM
    Makoto Tachibana
    LOOOOL Not sure if you're trolling or what. xD
    I was asking your school life. lol As in your daily school life, like your interactions with your peers and so on.

    Break-a-leg with the midterm babe. You can do it.
    Japanese LOL IHaveGivenUpOnMySelfStudyJapaneseLessons.
  3. Makoto Tachibana
    February 8th, 2015 11:58 PM
    Makoto Tachibana
    How's campus life buddy? Final exam already, right?
  4. BettyNewbie
    February 8th, 2015 10:39 PM
    Funny you mention that as that supposed region should be in between Hoenn and Johto...Shikoku is closer to the areas Johto is based on though. A region based on what Shikoku has left (as Cianwood and another coincidence is the Hoenn weather trio ruins...which is likely why it was put there as that area is around the half way mark between Johto and Hoenn if they're as far apart as their rl counterparts take up part of it already) would be quite small, maybe Johto size or smaller so it could work. I wouldn't mind a Gen II style 'sequel'. They could make it sort of a more indirect sequel than GSC was to RGBY too and not have the Hoenn Gen III evil teams involved but have a key character (best bet is Zinnia) play a role.
    Well, my idea for this sequel would have a new evil team (founded by either a former Magma/Aqua Grunt or another Hoenn character entirely), but the events would, otherwise, be a direct continuation from ORAS' story. Most of the older characters would return, and Hoenn, itself, would return in the postgame (and don't fear, it wouldn't be nearly as chopped down as GSC Kanto was). The two regions would also share a League, just like Kanto and Johto do.

    As far as the PCs go, I'd prefer them to be made equally canon in some way, but if that wasn't possible, then it needs to be May. I'm tired of the female PCs constantly getting shafted in favor of the guys, and May, like it or not, is more popular and iconic than Brendan.

    [QUOTE]Anyways back on topic. If they did that I'll like to see some references to Johto too. Perhaps the mascot that wasn't captured (Kyogre in the first, and Groudon in the second) in OR/AS will appear in the Johto ruins if they pop up again (or in Origin Cave back in Hoenn). If made for the New 3DS it could even include both the new region, Hoenn, and Johto but it'll leave Kanto without a 3D version still but that's where remakes can come in, Kanto remakes will still work as.../QUOTE]

    Even if this new region is close to it, I'd rather leave Johto out of this sequel, as three regions might be a bit too much. Johto can be in the Gen 1 remakes (seeing as Gen 2 remakes will probably be years away, as HGSS are much newer than FRLG; better to put Johto in the Gen 1 remakes than to separate Gens 1 and 2 even further than the earlier remakes did).

    Gf really did a number on the timeline worse than what we thought...(making it impossible to make sequels for all the Gens minus VI).
    They sure did. Hopefully, the last two Gen 6 games will fix this mess.
  5. BettyNewbie
    February 8th, 2015 08:47 PM
    They could give it a GSC-style sequel that starts in another region and takes you back to Hoenn in the postgame. As I mentioned before, some people have spotted what looks like a new region visible in the Delta Episode, and this mystery region closely corresponds to one that's located next to Hoenn's RL counterpart.

    It would center around new Legendaries and a new evil team (or two) that was, maybe, founded by a former Magma/Aqua Grunt (or, even, an entirely different character from ORAS). Either way, the story would be a direct continuation of ORAS'.

    The region, itself, would share the Evergrande League with Hoenn like Kanto and Johto share the Indigo League, so none of its gyms would have the same type as a Hoenn gym (leaving Bug, Grass, Poison, Ground, Ice, Ghost, Dragon, Dark, Steel, and Fairy open as possible gyms). Wallace would appear in the new region to help you out against the evil team similar to how Lance was in the Gen 2 games, and also like Lance, he would be the Champion waiting at the end of the Elite Four.

    The Elite Four themselves would also see some changes. At least, two of the members would be scrapped (hopefully both Sidney and Drake to balance out Indigo scrapping the two women from Gen 1), and one of the new ones would be a former Hoenn Gym Leader (most likely Norman, as I could easily see either Wally or the opposite gender PC taking over his old gym). The Elite Four, itself, would ideally be made up of 3 women and 1 man to balance out Gen 2 Indigo's male-dominated Elite Four.

    Hoenn would also see some changes. Juan would be in Wallace's old gym, of course, and either Wally or the opposite gender PC would be in Norman's old gym (if he gets promoted to the Elite Four). Certain Gym Leaders like Roxanne and Liza/Tate would also visibly appear older (like Misty did in Gen 2). Magma and Aqua's old hideouts would be abandoned, and could serve as the setting of a postgame story involving the new evil team. You would also see the Battle Frontier, fully completed and open, in place of ORAS' Battle Resort.

    Waiting at the end of Meteor Falls would be one of the ORAS protagonists with a high-leveled team. If they can't find a way for either to appear, then it should be May to balance out Red being favored in HGSS. Her ace would be Mega Blaziken (since that's the starter most associated with her), and the rest of her team would include Wobbuffet (Lavaridge Wynaut Egg), Metagross (Beldum from Steven), two of the Johto/Sinnoh/Unova starters, and possibly Rayquaza (if it was canonically caught).

    Obviously, this kind of "sequel" would have to happen in Gen 7 since it involves new Pokémon, but it's still something they could do.
  6. Makoto Tachibana
    February 8th, 2015 11:18 AM
    Makoto Tachibana
    I was staling you and I read your bio wrongly. *slapped hard*

    'If you want someone to talk dirty just talk to me ' @_@

    West Coast' Is it me or you changed your location? :o
  7. BettyNewbie
    February 8th, 2015 10:13 AM
    It would be unrealistic. Though the best way to fix it would be to make the prequels happen at the same time as ORAS after all.
    Probably so. While FRLG coincided with RSE, and HGSS coincided with DPP, ORAS do not coincide with XY, and that's where most of the timeline problems are coming from. Again, I don't think GF fully anticipated XY happening in the same Gen as RSE remakes.
  8. BettyNewbie
    February 8th, 2015 09:07 AM
    I think we can blame ORAS for it as XY seems to have originally been planned to continue the line (if XY took place a couple of months after B2W2 it wouldn't have retconned anything. Also someone from GF put RSEFrLg, DPPHgss, BW, B2W2XY in the same timeline prior to ORAS coming out so...that's kind of why I want them to make Z and simply have the Gen III-VI timeline be one where Megas came later compared to what ORAS established) established by ORAS original counterparts ironically... I guess in a way Hoenn was both the beginning and the end for the Gen III-V/VI timeline...and the start of a new one, only to end it in a way ( GF should make the next games Pokemon A and Pokemon Z with Pokemon Z symbolizing the end of the timeline. A forme Zygarde will have Thousand Arrows, while Z forme Zygarde will have Thousand Waves).
    I guess that's pretty much the only way they can fix this... Establish XY as being part of the Gen 3-5 timeline, and have ORAS be the beginning of the new one. Again, I don't think GF really thought this through very well.

    Well the only way out now will be to remake all of the Pre Kalos gens in Gen VI (even though ORAS have trade data for only two games they can always patch it and XY to contact with the newer ones like how they patched Pokebank to be compatible with ORAS a week before they came out). Or for GF to actually do DLC and make XYORAS(AZ?) able to include Gen VII Pokemon (I heard the Gen VI National dex has room for like 80 or so more mons so maybe it'll be possible) which can be transferred through time from Gen VII games, and remake Yellow, Crystal, and Diamond and Pearl...not sure what would become of the Unova games in such a strange scenerio.
    I highly doubt we'll see remakes of ALL the previous Gens in Gen 6... That's just way too unrealistic, especially for the Unova games (which are less than 5 years old). At the most, we'll see Gen 1 remakes this Gen, but that's about it.

    Though as I said GF would be smart to ride the ORAS wave and remake some of the other regions, it'll delay the arrival of even more mons. Plus Nintendo seems to have a thing for remakes right now...It would be interesting to have all the regions in one gen...that hasn't been done since Gen II (while none have had all the stories at the time except for I, with Gen II and Gen III coming close (percentage wise Gen III had 66 Percent versus Gen II's 50 percent of the stories at the time). Meanwhile Gen IV had the second most regions after I/II missing only Hoenn).
    You kind of need to be careful with your language here... Region =/= Generation. While Gens 2 and 4 had Kanto, it was a completely different Kanto from the one we saw in Gens 1 and 3. This is an important difference, because many people use Kanto's presence in HGSS to argue why Gen 1 doesn't need a new remake.
  9. Makoto Tachibana
    February 8th, 2015 02:11 AM
    Makoto Tachibana
    Thanks Luke, you're the sweetest.
    I wish I hadn't left PC for FB and Free stuff... I guess sighing won't help.
    Glad you're still by my side.
  10. BettyNewbie
    February 7th, 2015 11:42 PM
    I thought you had understood what I meant by Gen I-V remakes happening post Gen VI would break the current timeline revealed in ORAS (I mentioned this many times and you didn't seem to question it that why I thought you understood). Gen VII mons presence would contradict the known Pokemon at the time of XY and having Pokemon not in the XY National Pokemon dex in a game prior to XY in time would disturb things like how Gen III's mons did to Gen I-II's timeline.
    Man, Gen 6 really did a number on the games' timeline, didn't it?

    In a sense, they already wrote themselves in a corner when they chose to set XY during B2W2 and didn't completely hit the reset button like they did way back with the original RSE.

    I'm sure GF already knew that remaking RSE would require another "reboot" of sorts, since the games take place before GSC/HGSS on the timeline and were, themselves, the original reboot. But, on the other hand, I don't think GF was entirely sure on how to do this.

    The easy way out would've been to just hit the reset button with XY and set it during the same time as Gens 1 and 3, but then, they ran the risk of alienating more people, especially when you consider how soon XY came out after B2W2. That was obviously something GF was trying to avoid.

    In short, GF didn't plan this new timeline out. At all.

    (And, that's not even considering the fact that they may have already screwed things up by introducing new Megas in ORAS and not patching them to exist in XY.)
  11. Makoto Tachibana
    February 5th, 2015 05:34 AM
    Makoto Tachibana
    It's prolly nothing life threatening. In case you're too worried, just pray for me.

    --gonna reply more soon, gtg for now--
  12. BettyNewbie
    February 3rd, 2015 09:31 AM
    Yup, he did. This is what he said:

    For example, if after Black and White we came out with a Grey, people would have been expecting that," he said. Same thing with X/Y and having a Z straight afterwards. So we're always just trying to surprise people.
    Not only would Z be way too predictable, but it would also make XY obsolete and pointless in the same way as RS and DP. (And, seeing how people who bought XY reacted to the lack of a compatibility patch for ORAS, a Third Version probably wouldn't go over too well.)

    Do you know if GS were considered "direct sequels" to RGBY or were they just seen/called sequels in general, if it's the latter than it may be another region. There are hints that Xerneas and Yvetal may not have been found in Kalos (but more towards the east as someone mentions a Team that wasn't flare came by Anistar, and I think there's a similar reference in Dendemille town so. There's there's the train.)
    GSC have always been considered direct sequels, as their events are a direct follow-up to the events of RBY; even Johto, itself, is a direct expansion onto Kanto.

    It's possible that XY could see a similar kind of sequel that's set in a neighboring region. (The Strange Souvenir region, perhaps?) Some people have also spotted what looks like a possible new region located near Hoenn.

    Or it could be like Sinnoh was to Hoenn...it took place 3 years later but wasn't directly connected (so in a way was an indirect sequel).
    That would be Gen 7's main games, more than likely.
  13. Makoto Tachibana
    February 3rd, 2015 04:49 AM
    Makoto Tachibana
    That is something I can't elaborate.
    Not that I don't trust you, never take it that way.
    It's just that there were too much drama lately and I'm sick of it, also fed up with getting accused of manipulating/gaining sympathy when I have done nothing of sort.

    Don't think too much.
  14. Makoto Tachibana
    February 2nd, 2015 09:49 PM
    Makoto Tachibana
    It's something like. xD

    Heeheehee! I knew you weren't THAT lonely. :p How are your sisters? :D

    Uh well it's related to my 'illness', so yeah I've forgotten most of the stuff.

    Anyway have you figured out if I'm a dude or a gal? x'D
  15. BettyNewbie
    February 2nd, 2015 08:11 PM
    As thus far only two games remain in Gen VI...unless GF doesn't want to give Kalos a prequel or a third version with a drastically different story.
    As I've said, Masuda's already ruled out a sequel to XY, and the existence of two more games also precludes a solo Third Version (which Masuda also ruled out, anyways). It'll be interesting to see what they are.

    That's true...actually the only pair game of Gen III-IV I bought was Sapphire after having brought Emerald (I expected more differences tbh). Since Gen V had sequels Gen III still is the only one thus far I've own two games of (with Omega Ruby it's three Hoenn games) discounting remakes. I do feel foolish for having retroactively gone back and brought Sapphire (should gone farther back and gotten Silver)...but I learned my lesson for Gen IV holding off on Pearl for Platinum.
    Yellow and Crystal really are to you what Emerald and Platinum are to me.
    Looking it up, the only reason to own Sapphire if you've already bought Emerald is... Surskit/Masquerain, Meditite/Medicham, Roselia, and Lunatone. Big whoop.

    (Interestingly, all of the RS exclusives can also be found in Pokémon XD, thus making RS completely pointless and obsolete for anyone with a GameCube.)

    You were very smart to wait for Platinum, as DP were far worse to it in comparison than even RS were to Emerald. They had a tiny, badly-distributed Pokédex, tons of glitches, and terrible framerates, making the games nearly unplayable. (Platinum was almost less a Third Version and more a bugfix for DP.)

    You know Kanto remakes are now one of the most predicted/speculated things to follow ORAS? Other top speculation for what's next for Pokémon is: Z, Kalos prequels, Kalos sequels, Delta Emerald, or Gen VII. I think that order may even be the likelyhood order most give them (with Kanto re-remake or Z on top). You're probably thinking 'Delta Emerald is more likely than Gen VII? How?' Well some seem to think so due to the same reasons I brought up before. Anyways enough about my Emerald remake, the speculation for your own 'Emerald' was interesting. One of the arguements for Kanto remakes was that Kanto shares the same spot as Hoenn (yay Gen 1(FrLg) sharing the same time with your least favorite Gen may end up being a reason for them to remake your favorite Gen) in the timeline plus: "while it may have better graphics than Ruby and Sapphire they don't look as good as Diamond and Pearl do."
    That's news to me, but not in a bad way. It means that people are starting to wise up.

    Yes, Gen 1 has technically already been remade, but its remakes are older than DPP, and why remake a newer game before an older one? People who want to play Gen 4 on their 3DS can just grab a copy of Platinum and stick it in. People who want to play Gen 1 on their 3DS aren't so lucky. (The Gen 2 remakes, HGSS, are about the best they can do.)

    I still don't think Delta Emerald has the slightest chance of happening, although you never know. Based on the few Emerald "hints" that were thrown into ORAS, I think we may actually get Emerald stuff in the form of a sequel instead of a third remake, which would be unprecedented (as remakes have never gotten sequels that weren't other remakes).

    Plus unlike Hoenn Kanto lacks a device...I guess one could be made or a 'Pokégear 6' could be made (with 'Pokégear 7' for Crystal's remake). However chances are it'll lack the nav's tracking as it's not a navigator (same for Z's device)).
    I'd love to see the Pokégear be retconned into Gen 1. Kanto and Johto are extremely close, so it'd make sense that they'd share the same device.

    If they do Yellow and Z instead of 2 Kalos games next Gen they can remake DP and Crystal next Gen in 3DS more polished graphics but still similar for Yellow and Crystal to look alike. It would be unusual to see Hoenn and Sinnoh look similar though as those two (and the remakes made in their generations) are the second most unsimilar pair (1-2, 3-4, 5-6) graphically after V-VI.
    While there is a precedent for remakes happening on handhelds that can still play the originals (*cough*FRLG*cough*), GF seems to want to avoid that. This is why Gen 3 wasn't remade in Gen 5, for example; the DS could still play RSE (albeit, only the DS Phat and DS Lite).

    Gen 4 remakes on the 3DS might have been a possibility had the New 3DS killed DS compatibility like the DSi killed GBA compatibility, but again, we didn't exactly get Gen 3 remakes in Gen 5.

    Knowing this, Gen 2 probably won't be remade until after Gen 4 is, thus driving Gens 1 and 2 even further apart than the first remakes did. Hopefully, at least, the new Gen 1 remakes will include more Gen 2 references/characters, if not Johto, itself.

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Wow I can't beleive that I'll be completing my third year on this site already...time sure went by quick. I remember joining at the time when Gen V speculation was picking up. Now we're in the middle of Gen VI speculation! During that time I made friends, and lost some too. Even then I found these three past years on here to be fun overall. I hope that the next three years will be better than these past three .

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