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  1. Dark Sonic
    November 25th, 2013 3:51 PM
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  2. Jambo51
    September 10th, 2013 4:13 AM
    I never actually played 4 swords (what with it requiring 3 other people to play), but in Sappy at least, it plays back significantly crisper.

    The main notable thing is that it has half the normal number of ticks per measure (96 as opposed to the midi standard 192).

    This is why the tempo value gets halved, and why modulation values need to be halved when porting down from DS or up from GB, because both of those systems work on a 192 tick measure system.

    The M4AA engine is very bad at modulation at high speeds (see the utter failure of it to correctly play back the GSC Rocket Hideout as an example).

    Finally, it doesn't seem to have any obvious way to control the noise channels, unlike the GB, although it may simply be a case of finding the right conversions, and the engine has nothing to do with it.
  3. Jambo51
    September 8th, 2013 10:26 AM
    Yeah, I noticed the clarity drop in ALTTP as well. Interestingly, ALTTP's sister game (on GBA) Four Swords used the M4AA engine, at least partially.
  4. Jambo51
    September 8th, 2013 8:46 AM
    It might use a completely separate engine. Seems pretty unlikely, since most, but not all, Nintendo games use the M4AA engine.

    The quality is probably because the samples are low quality. I can't definitively say that, but that's probably the reason.
  5. Jambo51
    August 13th, 2013 4:28 AM
    What is it?
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  7. Jambo51
    December 15th, 2012 1:59 AM
    As it happens, through debugging I found a set of somewhat random looking numbers accessed whenever the game uses a noise track on GSC. I suspect these numbers may be related to what you're talking about in that they set how the noise track is played.

    I haven't yet found the same table on RBY, but through debugging, I should be able to find it.

    As to porting it over to the GBA, I don't know. You managed by doing a sort of "by ear" conversion, so perhaps it would be useful to start from there?

    Also, I am having severe issues with the modulation in one particular song from gen 2. The Team Rocket hideout has such a high modulation rate (127, the max value!) that the whole note becomes distorted, rather than producing a smooth note like the GBC. Any thoughts?
  8. Jambo51
    December 2nd, 2012 4:08 PM
    In theoretical terms, at least, 100% sure. With a delay of 1 and a length of 0, it should produce a note length of 1.

    In practical terms, I don't know.
  9. Jambo51
    December 2nd, 2012 1:36 AM
    My plan was to have note length just be a decimal value between 1-192, and on compilation, the tool would calculate if a frame delay change was necessary, and if it was, insert the command, followed by the note. I was going to try to hide this complexity from the end users, if at all possible.

    From my immediate rationalisation, I worked out that the max values of frame delay and note length would be 0xC and 0xF respectively. These 2 values combined give the maximum note length of 192 in GBC note architecture. This also means every note value in this range is covered.

    In terms of other commands, they would take the obvious necessary parameters, it would be up to the too to rationalise them so that they make sense when played back on the GBC.
  10. Jambo51
    November 29th, 2012 2:04 PM
    OK, implemented those changes and I'm getting sensible sounding noises out. If I could just understand and parse the actual noise behaviour (ie, how it chooses what sound it makes), I'd be done.

    Oh well, in any case, I'm about to move on to assembly into the Gen 1 and 2 ROMs.
    Got any preferred formats for that? I was thinking something that looked a bit like XSE in terms of the music commands (since the music is technically a script, when you think about it).

    So an example music command would be:
    Note C 4 12 7 1
    Where the parameters stand for:
    C = Note to play
    4 = Octave
    12 = Length
    7 = Velocity
    1 = Fade

    The reason for so many parameters is that asking a user to understand the Frame Delay command is asking a bit much, IMO, so if I have it in each note command and parse it correctly, I can add it in on the fly when necessary.

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  11. Jambo51
    November 25th, 2012 10:24 PM
    I can tell you that E3 determines the noise pattern on Gen 2, although I'm unsure as to how it actually defines anything, as it points to a bunch of numbers which carry no obvious meaning. As for the rest, I'll see about implementing the changes at least, so that the notes exported make sense.
  12. Jambo51
    November 25th, 2012 1:32 AM
    Well, that pretty much covers the full gauntlet of questions for Gen 1, as (distortion and noise notwithstanding) I seem to have very accurate reproductions of the music coming out now. There are some issues with the rising notes, but I'll look into them more accurately at a later date.
  13. Jambo51
    November 24th, 2012 8:34 AM
    Fair enough, I worked off that assumption, and it seems to be working. Now another question, do you know where the headers for the songs in this region (22330-23F51) are? They're missing from any known list, and they would appear to include the battle themes (given that those are absent from what my tool can export currently).

    I have tried to find them, with no luck, so I'm a bit bemused.
  14. Jambo51
    November 24th, 2012 7:21 AM
    Don't suppose you know the "max" value of it? I assume it can't be 0, for obvious reasons, so does it just operate from D1 - DF?
  15. Jambo51
    November 24th, 2012 7:01 AM
    Frame delay defines how long each "tick" of the music actually takes. It's normally set to 0xC, but can be changed to lengthen/shorten a note's duration. With a note length of 0 and a frame delay of 0xC, the note lasts 12 (0xC) frames on a GBC, or W06 on GBA (due to the halving effect).

    In GSC, there's a command which directly modifies this frame delay to allow for longer/shorter notes, and I was wondering if there was an analogous command on RBY, since some notes don't play at the correct rate on export with my tool, and I assume that with the systems being so similar, there will be a command which modifies this value somewhere.

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