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  1. BettyNewbie
    January 18th, 2015 10:08 AM
    TV Tropes to the rescue!

    "Spork" is used as a term to mock and criticize So Bad, It's Good and So Bad Its Horrible works, since sporks have the right size and shape to dig out an eye. A bad Fan Fic, for example, can be described as "It sporked me.", i.e: so bad it made me want to take my eyes out so I wouldn't have to view it any more.

    Not to be confused with "sporking", another name for MSTing. Also not to be confused with a Portmanteau Couple Name for Spock and Kirk.
  2. Meloetta
    January 17th, 2015 01:43 PM
    I did indeed! Chances are I'll go back to Zeria...I'll probably make an alt account somewhen, so I can swap between the two. I'll be putting random anime and game characters on display still though, so fear not =P
  3. OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
    January 16th, 2015 02:26 PM
    OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
    I noticed you and BN are talking about Twilight. While it sends a bad message to girls (and boys in that it's telling them women like being abused), it's not nearly as bad as that fan fiction of it's which later became called Fifty Shades of Grey...
  4. Mr. Pipboy
    January 15th, 2015 11:40 PM
    Mr. Pipboy
    Oi. c:
  5. BettyNewbie
    January 15th, 2015 08:36 PM
    I still don't understand how they unceremoniously cut Juan from ORAS when HGSS expanded on all the characters, with even Steven making an appearance.
    ORAS hates Emerald for some reason or another. I guess we should just be glad they didn't force Cynthia into the games like they forced her and Steven into HGSS.

    I looked at the list and it seems well thought. I'd scrap the Frontier though because **** the Frontier. Use whatever is the facility in the current gen instead.
    I should point out that this was originally written about a month before ORAS were released and we still thought that the Hoenn Battle Frontier would return.

    N isn't really evil, though. He's just weird in a charming sense. He's cute and weird and girls probably love him because of that despite him lacking the necessary social skills.
    Unfortunately, N/Hilda shippers don't always portray him that way... (HUGE content warning on that link!)

    When I read the first sentence I thought you had the hots for him. I happen to quite like his looks. He did say something about Twilight, something about the books being Meyer's personal fantasy that should've never been published, but I can't find the quote.
    Well, I'll admit that he's not bad-looking, although he's far from the greatest actor. I love how much he hates Twilight, though.

    Here's the quote you're probably thinking of:

    “When I read it ... I was convinced that Stephenie was convinced that she was Bella, and ... It was like it was a book that wasn't supposed to be published, like reading her - her sort of sexual fantasy about some - especially when she says that it was based on a dream, and it's like, 'Oh, then I had a dream about this really sexy guy' and she just writes this book about it, and there's some things about Edward that are just so specific that ... I was just convinced that this woman is mad, she's completely mad, and she's in love with her own fictional creation.”
    He nailed it, didn't he?

    Oh, that's right! Better than Kristen Stewart still, who always looks like she's constipated.
    Unfortunately, that's just how she "acts."

    Idk, I'd rather see Lance still in adventures, or at least doing something when required. His Pokémon are powerful, and they're going to be sitting around doing nothing, which would be pretty boring. Dragonite isn't a pet like Growlithe for example. I guess he'd rather release his Pokémon, or leave them back in the Dragon's Den in Blackthorn if needed.

    However, Lance doesn't really have anything to do anymore. I'd like him to teach young trainers. Being a parent doesn't stop you from doing that. Maybe, as a prodigy, he isn't skilled in teaching, but he could at least try, since he's widely respected in Blackthorn as a "master".
    Remember that this is my own shipper headcanon. Lance can't end up Happily Ever After with Lorelei if he's constantly traveling around, which defeats the purpose.

    Just because someone's a stay at home parent doesn't mean that they're just "sitting around and doing nothing." (Do you *really* think I have him chained to a stove? ) In my stories, Lance devotes a lot of his time to environmental activism and rescuing sick/injured/abandoned Pokémon (especially young Dragons). He also acts as a mentor to younger trainers (especially young Dragon users).

    And, raising children is a job, too, you know. A very unappreciated one, in fact.

    Haha Lance is very evil in Adventures. But they probably like that at GF, considering N shares his goals (to create an utopia for Pokémon).
    But, N is a completely different character, not one who had already been previously established elsewhere as a very gentle, noble, and kind-hearted person. Nobody's characterization was being butchered there.
  6. BettyNewbie
    January 14th, 2015 03:29 PM
    I'm a bit of the opposite because I love to see how worlds are built. Which is why the way Carlton Cuse and Damon Lindelof handled Lost after JJ Abrams left the boat disappointed me a lot. They included time travel and magic in something that, they promised, was supposed to be fully explainable through scientific means. And some things were left without explanation.
    My friend at another site is like that. He's a huge fan of Star Trek and Doctor Who, and he could go on all day about the inner workings of those universes. As for me, that stuff mostly bores me.

    Who's that blonde girl in the first pic? Also, the third one probably has a wrong link.
    The blonde girl is Yellow from Adventures. Fans of Adventures!Lance love to use her as their "Bella Swan."

    The third link was supposed to be N/Hilda. I have NO idea how it went bad.

    I know, know, Jacob is the better match for Bella, but I'm team vampire even if Edward is a complete asshole who treats Bella like his plaything.
    I'm more Team Robert Pattinson. I LOVE all of the not-so-nice things he's said about his horrible character and those horrible books and movies.

    It's rumored that Bella is actually Meyer's self-insert. But so much of Meyer's beliefs were inserted into the series, not just Bella. Meyer is a mormon and a conservative and made her main characters behave as such (no premarital sex, no abortion of the baby which was obviously hurting Bella, and so on).
    Just a rumor?

    Yeah, the conservative, retrograde messages of Twilight are very obvious, which is why those books are all the more dangerous. Girls as young as 10 are picking them up and learning that Edward and Bella are the "ideal" relationship, which does have serious consequences for them in the real world. Unlike in fiction, your love won't save the "Bad Boy."

    Also, it's funny how Lance has a bit of a change of heart in GSC. In RBY, he comes off as a bit arrogant, even. But in GSC he matured and is a gentle, understanding Champion. Perhaps his defeat at both Red and Blue's hands humbled him?
    Yeah, I've noticed that. I've always written off RBY Lance as having a bad day and thus, slightly OOC, but he definitely did show signs of maturing in GSC. (Probably more proof that he really was supposed to be a teenager in RBY, as there really is a world of difference between the maturity of a 17 year old and a 20 year old.)

    Looking back, my headcanon of Lance quitting the League after Gen 2 to settle down with Lorelei actually fits pretty well with the games. Unlike two certain other Champions, Lance hasn't been seen or heard from outside of his introductory regions. He only appeared in Gens 3 and 4 because of remakes, and he was only in Gen 5 because of the PWT (which, at this point, probably isn't canon). He never saw him cameo in any other regions, nor did we hear of his whereabouts.

    Since we never saw or heard of him again, he must've gone to GF's designated No Man's Land, the Sevii Islands. And, why would he go there? I'll give you one guess. And, when you have a man and a woman deeply in love, there will usually be children. Seeing as a certain Rocket Grunt from Gen 2 is shown having settled down and with a child in BW, as many as 10 years could have passed between Gens 2 and 5, more than enough time for Lance and Lorelei to become parents. And children take time, especially if you're the stay-at-home parent, like I write Lance. Plus, he still has his "scaly babies" to tend to, which also takes time. And, if he got into activist work like I write him, that's another chunk of his time being spent on something that isn't battling.

    In short, Lance hasn't been seen or heard from outside of Gens 1 and 2 because his priorities changed. Perfect for me!

    That episode should've been a full length movie, actually. Sticking the Groudon/Kyogre battle into the anime was a terrible decision. Just because it worked with Lugia didn't mean it would work again.
    Well, even Lugia had gotten its main debut in a movie before we saw it in the anime. That's a big reason why Lugia's anime appearance worked; there was no need to introduce it to the audience and flesh out its backstory. The same should've been done with Groudon and Kyogre.

    I like the idea of Adventures. But it does stray a bit too far from the games.
    I'm not a fan. To much of it reads like someone's attempt at a dark!fic of the games and only comes off as "trying too hard." The fact that it completely butchered one of my favorite characters, along with many others, also doesn't do it any favors. Plus, I find its art style to be wretched, IMO.
  7. BettyNewbie
    January 14th, 2015 02:17 PM
    But I hate the Fairy type for its lack of sense, and concern with balance. Why is it weak to Poison? Why is it strong against Dragon? It's just because of the "metagame" and the fact Poison only had one advantage in the past. It's not because water douses fire and fire burns grass.
    Well, in folklore, iron is said to repel fairies, and what's the closest thing we have to a "Iron Type"? It could also represent science overpowering folklore, as most Steel types have man-made, technological origins.

    As for Poison, well, fairies are traditionally connected to nature, which makes them vulnerable to pollution (also related to the technology/nature conflict).

    The Fairy Type can also be seen as Pokémon's version of "good magic," hence its strengths against evil (Dark Type) and monsters (Dragon Type). Think of the good knight slaying the evil dragon...

    I like the Fairy Type. It adds depth to the series, and does a good job of mixing things up... Just like Dark and Steel did.

    Speaking of Blissey, it (and Chansey) can somehow learn the move Wish. It doesn't seem incompatible with it, either. However, did you know it can only learn Wish in an NYPC 3rd gen event? Which means, to have a legal Blissey with Wish in a 6th gen cart, you need to have had the luck of attending the event (because wifi didn't exist back then) and transferring Chansey all the way across gens, which means you must have two DS Phat/Lite (one to transfer from 3rd to 4th gen and both to transfer from 4th to 5th gen), a 3DS and Pokémon Bank. To sum it up, it's a ridiculously rare Pokémon.

    Yet Smogon lists Wish Blissey as one of the standards.

    By Smogon's logic, if it's obtainable somehow, it's legal (illegal move combinations notwithstanding). They don't care if it was available, for example, in a Japanese exclusive 3rd gen event released to just a select few people and you have to do all that transferring mumbo jumbo to get it in the most up to date gen. If you can somehow obtain it, it's game in Showdown. It's a warped logic that's very toxic to the game IMO. In fact, it makes Showdown its own game rather than Pokémon anymore.
    Yeah, it's obvious where Smogon's priorities lie, and it's not with the games. All they see is data to plug into a simulator and nothing more.

    I don't really like Yellow tbh... And I think FRLG were supposed to be remakes of RB like ORAS are remakes of RS. So no specific Emerald bits. They could make an event revolving Pikachu and Team Rocket in the postgame, but, with the way te anime is, I don't know if it would be still relevant. It's best to let the games and the anime stay separate. Red is the weakest Champion in the B2W2 PWT by far because of Pikachu.
    And, yet, none of that stopped HGSS from including Crystal-exclusive features.

    My friend at another site came up with a good RB remake idea that included Yellow elements:

    My personal wants for a Gen 1 remake would be paired versions incorporating the elements of Yellow. For names, perhaps InfernoRed and SolarGreen/HydroBlue, or it could also be BlastRed and FrenzyGreen/HydroBlue (I personally think IRSG sounds better). My main wants for it would be:

    *Day/Night Cycle
    *Sevii Islands majorly expanded
    *Leaf as a 3rd rival, introduced as the PC's sister, and chooses the 3rd starter. Role filled by Red if you choose Leaf. Final battle with them in front of the Pokemon League, afterwards they can be rematched in Pallet Town daily, and also assists you in the postgame storyline.
    *Pokemon following you (Limited to Pikachu, the Kanto starters, Kanto/Johto Legendaries, Deoxys, the Hitmon's, Clefairy line, Jigglypuff line, Dragonite line, Eeveelutions, Kanto fossils, Lapras, Snorlax, Togepi line, Tyranitar line?)
    *Naval Rock as an actual postgame location
    *Fleshed out Mew and Mewtwo backstories
    *Mew/Mewtwo plays a major role in the postgame storyline. There's a storyline quest (could be an event) post-Sevii that allows you to encounter Mew in Vermillion City (wink wink) and then pursue it around Kanto, finally battling it at Mt. Silver.
    *Mt. Silver as a major postgame location (Could also show us why Red/Leaf are on Mt. Silver)
    *Hoenn's Battle Frontier in the Sevii Islands (Or a totally new Kanto facility, Battle Mansion or Battle Laboratory?)
    *Several NPC's always have a Pokemon following them (Blue's Eevee, which will become a member of his team alongside his normal starter, TRio's Meowth, Giovanni's Persian, Red/Leaf's Pikachu/Jigglypuff)
    *TRio, but actually important to the storyline and appears past Silph. Become a double battle
    *In-game event in Viridian Forest allowing you to capture a Pikachu. Pikachu holds a Light Ball and refuses to evolve.
    *Berry Trees
    *All new pre-evo's/evo's added to Kanto dex, plus some Pokemon from Johto, and rarely from Hoenn and Sinnoh when needed (for types like Ghost for example)
    *Moss Rock in Viridian Forest, Ice Rock as Seafoam Islands
    *Pokemon like Magnazone can evolve in Silph Co and the Power Plant
    *VS Seeker and Fame Checker return (FC actually has a reward this time, not sure what it could be. Maybe the ability to customize your character with the appearance of other NPC's, maybe even other PCs?)
    *Pikachu caught in Viridian can learn Surf (Maybe it could be version dependent, Surf in FireRed and Fly in LeafGreen)
    *Pikachu's Beach/Flying Pikachu game appear/return
    *Lugia's connection to the Legendary Birds is expanded
    *Pokemon Amie/Super Training/PSS
    *GB sounds available as an option
    I also suggested using the Kanto starter events from Yellow to give you the Johto starters (holding their Mega stones), instead, as all Generation 2 Pokémon would be included in the Kanto Dex. You would, somehow, get the other two Kanto starters later in the postgame (thus, preserving the Yellow-based Final Battle team from GSC/HGSS).
  8. BettyNewbie
    January 13th, 2015 12:18 AM
    It means you're more a fan of character development than worldbuilding. I remember the two camps were firmly opposites among Lost fans.

    I'm having to do more character development in my WIP because I don't have the dedication to worldbuild. Ideally, they should be balanced, and I like to have "rules" to follow, but many writers don't even follow their onw rules... Guess I need to play more RPG.
    Yeah, definitely. Even in my other (mostly TV) fandoms, my main focus is usually on character development and how characters are portrayed. Poor worldbuilding is annoying, but sloppy characterization outright enrages me. (Especially when I'm talking about shows that weren't particularly good at either... *cough*Charmed*cough*)

    Twilight is my guilty pleasure. I love watching the movies and laughing at them. But I couldn't stomach the first book. Gave up quite early. Bella is too "fascinated" by Edward to my taste.
    Oh, I wish I could be that lenient on those books, but then the feminist in me remembers all of the poisonous messages lurking between those pages...

    And, don't think that this crap hasn't affected Pokémon fandom. The number one reason these three ships are so popular is because they're literally Pokémon-flavored versions of Twilight--the small, weak younger girl (usually a player character and thus, easy to self-insert into) who tries to win over the (usually older) anti-hero with her "love," even as he treats her and everyone else like dirt.

    Horrifyingly, I remember one time reading a Lance/Misty fic (just out of curiosity), and the thing literally read like a Twilight fic that had Pokémon names subbed in. The author portrayed Lance as this cold, emotionless brooder and wrote entire paragraphs about how hard and ripped his body was. Meanwhile, Misty was this nervous, weak, wet mop of a character who was constantly getting herself into trouble and always needing to be saved. And, I must point out that these were supposed to be the ANIME versions of these characters, aka. this fiery redhead and this sweet, caring guy. Ugh...

    Well, that would be an interesting end for Lance, and I admit that retiring at your peak is very tempting. I'd probably do the same, lol.
    I interpret him as being almost a child prodigy of a trainer, similar to Red. He looked very young in his original design (like 17-18 years old), making him possibly one of the youngest Elite Four members ever (contrasting nicely with Agatha, the oldest ever), and on top of that, he was the leader of the bunch!

    I see him as having accomplished a lot by the time he was in his early 20s (almost to the point of him being robbed of a normal adolescence) and more than ready to settle down and take a break, as suggested by his post-battle GSC dialog:

    "…It’s over. But it’s an odd feeling. I’m not angry that I lost. In fact, I feel happy. Happy that I witnessed the rise of a great new Champion!"

    I thought Archer was underdeveloped in HGSS. He gets props for using Houndoom, but they could've added so much more into his character (as they did with the other admins). Drayano's Sacred Gold/Storm Silver hack features Archer more prominently, but you probably wouldn't like it because it's much harder than vanilla HGSS.
    Well, I develop him more, even if I turn him into a bit of an asshole. He's a fun character, though.

    Interesting hack, although I'm not too keen on the "hard" ones.

    Oh, that's so true! I haven't followed the anime, so I didn't realize it. Even Clair appeared, but not Lance. But the anime sadly ignores Lance's relation to Clair. I heard their family relationship is only canon in the games.
    Yeah, it is. I'll admit though that the anime portrayed Lance much more accurately to the game version, personality-wise, than a certain other adaptation did (and his design was pretty cute, too), which makes it all the more of a shame that he wasn't handled better. What possessed the writers to stick him into Hoenn, and, why are they blaming that episode's failure on him?
  9. BettyNewbie
    January 12th, 2015 11:01 PM
    I think Fairy would ruin Dragonite. And Altaria fans would be pissed.
    C'mon, you have to remember what Dragonite's based on. No matter how much you try, you just can't keep her away from her cute, cuddly roots, why not embrace them to the fullest?

    There's some cool fan ideas floating around. I love how they both take cues from Dragonair's design.

    I've never seen Clefable as a parallel to Blissey. They play quite different. Currently, Blissey is actually outclassed by Chansey! No idea why as I haven't followed the updates much.
    Oh, I haven't, either, but Smogon always has.

    LOL at Blissey being outclassed by her pre-evo! This is why Eviolite was a bad idea.

    Flygon has lots of Bug moves but Yanmega would need something like Dragon Pulse to shine.
    Well, they could always give it to Yanmega like they gave it to Ampharos.

    I thought the Sinnoh Victory Road was more difficult, but I could be wrong as it's been a while I've played either.
    Two. HM. Slaves. That's how many I needed to get through Hoenn's Victory Road. That place is horrible.

    They went with "accuracy", but really, it was a very unimpressive take on RBY.
    They were so "accurate" that they didn't even acknowledge the "Y" of "RBY," let alone stuff from GSC and RS. At this point, I want them to just scrap FRLG and make new remakes. Give us a truly modern Gen 1. (Like how HGSS was a truly modern Gen 2.)

    At least Clefable is Fairy now so she's definitely more useful.
    I know. That's another reason why I want a new Gen 1.
  10. Meloetta
    January 12th, 2015 06:57 AM
    I have an eye for them, no? You don't get much cuter than the Alchemist of Arland protagonists either. xD

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    Basically someone who started playing Pokémon in 1999 and never grew out of it. My first version was Blue, which I still have somewhere but I'm pretty sure my GBC doesn't work anymore anyway.

    I have severe OCD, so when I play I make up some "conditions" for my teams. Usually, my Pokémon's names must all start with different letters (used to mean that the Pokémon's *actual* names should start with different letters, so no Houndoom and Heracross together, but since I nickname I've made this condition more flexible), there must be no repeated types, and their general sizes can't be too different (a somewhat flexible condition). Yes, I'm weird like that. My ID also can't contain numbers I hate, so I restart the game until I have desired ID.

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