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  1. Anti
    April 26th, 2008 03:56 PM
    BTW, Shaymin would run:

    Shaymin @ Leftovers
    Trait: Natural Cure
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SAtk
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Aromatherapy
    - Rest
    - Hidden Power [Fire]
    - Grass Knot

    Counters gyarados and those ever-feared steel walls. Thoughts? It's only preliminary though >.>
  2. Anti
    April 26th, 2008 03:53 PM
    I actually just did the work myself Go Netbattle damage calc!

    Anyways, 216 EVs gets me 308 SAtk, which does 94%-100% (which with SS will KO Gyarados).

    But I also ran some calcs that found that D-E with no Def EVs and max HP will actually survive a DDed Waterfall from Gyarados, and by a healthy margin (as in SS won't kill it).

    I dunno, the changes to my team have still caused more problem's than they helped with...my only weaks originally were:


    And I believe that's it. You all said forretress was a dead weight, so what beats both of those...? It also has to be able to beat what forretress did, like Weavile I'm looking at since Hippowdon as a Weavile counter is lol. Then again, Gyarados will do for Weavile, so never mind that. Assuming I actually keep Celebi, how would Cresselia alone sound?

    I could run Reflect/Rest/Ice Beam/Psychic. I'd have MixApe backup and I'd beat MixMence. Dunno about grassers though >.>

    I do have a solution though! Shaymin can Aromatherapy and Counter Gyarados, only Pursuit doesn't destroy it! So the final lineup could be Hippowdon/Snorlax/Spiritomb/Cresselia/Gyarados/Shaymin? I don't see any weaknesses.
  3. Dark Azelf
    April 26th, 2008 03:35 PM
    Dark Azelf
    Iv done your calcs

    252 SP.ATT Modest Deoxys-E

    Defender HP: 384
    Damage: 371 - 437
    Damage: 96.61% - 113.80%

    With Thunderbolt on 212 hp / 0 sp.def neutral nature Gyarados.

    So id just max it.
  4. Anti
    April 26th, 2008 01:34 PM
    Well...it's essential to what my EVs will be, lol.
  5. Dark Azelf
    April 26th, 2008 01:26 PM
    Dark Azelf
    I just like Knock Off as it does more than one job via preventing a CB Pursuit and basically cripples anything else that wants to switch in on me. I could use Reflect, but i find Knock off much more useful.

    I havent run numbers on how much sp.att ohko's ape and gyara, ill get it done later i think.
  6. Anti
    April 26th, 2008 01:10 PM
    Wouldn't Reflect be better for the job than Knock Off though?

    Also, what is the amount of SAtk you need to guarantee OHKOs on Mixape with Psychic and Gyarados with Tbolt?
  7. Dark Azelf
    April 26th, 2008 12:59 PM
    Dark Azelf
    I was thinking Focus Blast on Deoxys used in conjunction with Psychic, to beat Pursuit-ers. Like Weavile and T-Tar. I also use Knock Off for that reason alone, to Knock Off Choice bands so they cant OHKO me with pursuit.

    I sometimes use 220 HP / 252 SP.ATT / 36 SPEED@Modest, that does a nice job too.
  8. Anti
    April 26th, 2008 12:53 PM
    Just give it Wish support with Pain Split, and its recovery gets a lot better.

    Also, I use Psychic over Knock Off to beat Mixape, who gets OWNED by Speed Deoxys. Even if you switch into a non-boosted Flamethrower, you can still beat it (Recover FTW). I also don't give it speed since I never use Ice Beam (so trying to compete with Scarfchomp would be futile).

    D-E can become ridiculously powerful if you know how to use it.

  9. Dark Azelf
    April 26th, 2008 12:50 PM
    Dark Azelf
    Ive tried spiking deoxys, its a beast i use

    160 HP / 252 SP.ATT / 96 SPEED
    Timid Nature
    - Knock Off
    - Thunderbolt / Ice Beam
    - Recover
    - Spikes / Stealth Rock

    Speed to outspeed Scarf Chomp

    I too like weezing, but Pain Split and Rest Talk =[. If it got Recover i would use it every match =[

    Also my next annoyance, if Mesprit and Uxie also got Recover dont you think they would be a staple on most teams ?

    Also why in the blue hell does Snorlax NOT get Slack off hes the perfect pokemon for it, dont you think? Even frikkin Infernape gets it =/
  10. Anti
    April 26th, 2008 12:39 PM
    Well, I'm still designing that Speed Deoxys Spiker set, but the EVs are close to finalization.

    Taunt Skarm? I've seen one or two.

    Celejump is Espyjump with Celebi passing CM boosts.

    I think I prefer Advance because stalling is a lot easier there...and I think I keep coming back to DP because I enjoy a challenge

    Also, I don't see why nobody uses Weezing, It's a beast
  11. Dark Azelf
    April 26th, 2008 12:34 PM
    Dark Azelf
    Yep Jump Skarm, it had Taunt xp. What is Cele Jump ?

    I agree with you there, i too prefer rating and making teams. Lower tier battles and Uber are really fun though =)

    Duggy is 38th i believe in unweighted usage on shoddy, id say it was OU too. My only problem with it though, is that if you use Jolly it lacks power and if you use Adamant, you get outsped, so meh.

    Id like to have a lurk at that stall team when its done.
  12. Anti
    April 26th, 2008 12:26 PM
    JumpSkarm? Never heard of it. I know of EspyJump and Celejump, as those are both common (or Celebi at least). I don't play much ADV or DP anymore, I prefer making and rating teams as opposed to actually using them, lol.

    As for Dugtrio, BL/OU is usage, so whatever its usage is. If it was based on power, I would say OU. Half the teams I play against are Duggy weak - I just can't figure a way to work it into my mega-defensive teams. I actually like to sweep with some stuff, but the sweepers I use are usually for defensive purposes (as weird as it sounds).

    As for that stall team, it's looking much better right now. No weaks
  13. Dark Azelf
    April 26th, 2008 12:22 PM
    Dark Azelf
    SHUT UP NUB !!!! lol

    Now in your honest opinion , which tier would you class Dugtrio in ? OU OR BL ?

    Also can you remember "JumpSkarm" from advance, ive just remembered that thing XD ?
  14. Anti
    April 26th, 2008 11:37 AM
    GO WEEZING! Down with Gliscor!

  15. Anti
    April 26th, 2008 08:49 AM
    Happy Birthday!

    Speaking of age, it always makes me lol when people go "ZOMG you're 58 and ur on da internetz! Pervert!!!! lol"

    Is it really that hard to figure out that I'm much much younger than that? lol

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Posted July 20th, 2012 at 11:18 AM by Anti Comments 7
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Yeah, this is it for me. Five years ago today, I joined PC. Now my time here is coming to a close a half a decade later.

I won't go too in-depth here besides to say that my battling skills (and interest, to some degree) have eroded to the point where they couldn't be salvaged without time and effort that I can no longer muster. Furthermore, it just hasn't been all that fun for several years now for a ton of different reasons I do not wish wish to list, and having fun is the point...

Posted September 28th, 2009 at 05:36 PM by Anti Comments 2
This blog won't be very long. I obviously haven't posted many of these. Yeah, school can be a pain when you have a lot of homework and not a lot of energy.

Anyway, I originally thought that the second iteration of Stage 3 (to use Smogon's wording) would just be Manaphy and the already-OU Latias...and that's how it was going to be. But now Garchomp is being added into the test according to Jumpman, I would assume due to the close 44-41 vote in favor of it being Uber.


Posted September 12th, 2009 at 02:44 PM by Anti Comments 5
I figured I'd have some fun and predict the Stage 3 voting results. You can post some too if you'd like. I'll probably be wrong on about all of these, but I thought I'd have some fun so why not?

Shaymin-S - Uber

I think this will be voted Uber, actually. I think people are afraid of hax and afraid of Skymin's power and Speed. I actually don't blame them--it's a pretty effective Pokemon. I just wish...

Posted September 7th, 2009 at 01:17 PM by Anti Comments 8
They have finally been released, and you can find them here. I'm glad they're out, especially since I contributed to them this time around :3

The biggest "shocker" to me was Blissey at number 14 (if you include the Rotom formes, which I will do for this whole entry). How the mighty have fallen. Blissey is probably the best defensive Pokémon in the game, and it's not even close to the top ten. As a user of Blissey, my guess is that Blissey being vulnerable to Trick as well...

Posted September 6th, 2009 at 08:03 AM by Anti Comments 16
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I know, long time, no see, right? People often complain about how S&M is dead, and while there isn't much we can do about that (after all, we cannot control who decides to frequent in the section), I figured that I might as well start using this again to maybe, possibly start some discussion. Honestly, I am still a bit puzzled by the failure of the Metagame Discussion Thread, and the best conclusion I can come to is that it failed because it was too bland or boring in some way. Hopefully I can...
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