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I-Like-Shiny-Pichu January 23rd, 2012 10:13 AM

Ultimate No Catch Challenge
Ultimate No Catch Challenge

This was basically formed from a combination of ideas, namely to not catch Pokémon, and to make the game pretty damn hard (maybe not so for an expert, but for me at least). This challenge should be 100% possible, so don't give up! Currently I only have rules for this challenge on Red, Blue and Green, but don't fear, I will be altering the rules for GSC next, and then the other generations (excluding Gen 5 till I get a copy of Black).


Start with Charmander
No catching Pokémon - only recieve from in game events
No buying items, including coins (safari zone allowed, as you need to go there for Surf and Gold Teeth, however, you can still not catch Pokémon there) The exception to this rule is a single evolution stone to be used on Eevee
You must evolve every Pokémon as soon as it can evolve
No glitching/cheats
No trading
You may only use 1 Pokémon in each Gym (Once you have started the first battle in a Gym with that Pokémon, you cannot switch it to another till you beat the Gym, unused Pokémon must be deposited into the PC)
You may use your full team of 6 for the Elite Four
Switching Pokémon during a battle is forbidden, you may only switch if your current fighter faints, so choose your leader wisely for each battle
Once a Pokémon faints during an Elite Four challenge, it may not be revived till the end of the Elite Four challenge (either beating the champion or losing)
Use of HM slaves is forbidden
Avoid using the fast forward button, not necessary
You are allowed to evolve your Pokémon, hence the exception in the no buying items rule allowing you to evolve your Eevee
Use of Rare Candies is forbidden
Use of Day Care is forbidden
Flash is unable to be obtained, so plan accordingly

Advanced Rules (For Ultimate Kanto Champion):

Your party must all be within 3 levels of each other upon entering a new town, and challenging a Gym (your weakest Pokémon may only be 3 levels lower than your strongest)
More rules coming soon (so you can't pick Advanced yet, but I plan on changing the starter rules, so anyone who beats it with the current rules will be an Ultimate Kanto Champion

You should be able to obtain the following:

Charmander, Omanyte/Kabuto, Hitmonchan/Hitmonlee, Eevee, Lapras and Aerodactyl.

As this will be everybodies team, it will be a judge of skill, rather than building a team that pwns whatever you are trying to fight (though that often requires skill too).

Please choose whether you want Omanyte or Kabuto, and Hitmonchan or Hitmonlee before you start.

Entry form:

Game: (Red, Blue, Green)
Character Name:
Rival Name:
Fossil Choice:
Hitmon Choice:
Eeveelution: (Vaporeon, Jolteon, Flareon, None)

My Entry Form:

Username: I-Like-Shiny-Pichu
Game: Green (English)
Character Name: Red
Rival Name: Green
Fossil Choice: Kabuto
Hitmon Choice: Hitmonlee
Eeveelution: None/Jolteon (I will decide later)

I-Like-Shiny-Pichu - Green
Dave_ - Blue
Togetic997 - Red
Wolfe - Blue
DarkChibimon - Blue
Fallentheangel - Green
RedViper1990 - Red
Terrible_Hydra - Blue
Ash&pikachuarethebest - Red
Sophie1120 - FireRed

None yet

Ultimate Chapions:
Mick Fizz - Red - End Time 36:38
InfernoRogue - Red - End Time 36:14
Pokepokemo - Red - End Time 118:20
J1KTheGamer - Red - End Time 30:24


Threw this together pretty quickly with a generator I found online: - the code to put it in your sig is below (please use the code, don't just put the image in your sig)


Remove the stars to use

When you finish please post a screenshot (or photo if you are using a console) of your end time. You are of course welcome to post screenshots of your team or whatever throughout the challenge.

You are welcome to post YouTube videos if you want (NOT A REQUIREMENT, AS IT IS STATED IN THE RULES THAT YOU CANNOT MAKE A CHALLENGE REQUIRING CHALLENGERS TO POST VIDEOS OF THEIR PROGRESS). I will be participating (What fun would it be otherwise?). Note, if you do post videos, please enclose them in spoiler tags, as to do otherwise would be advertising your channel, which is against forum rules.



I-Like-Shiny-Pichu January 26th, 2012 2:30 AM

I am doing a run through on Leaf Green before I start my proper run, to see if this is compatible with FrLg, so far (just past Brock) not only is it possible, its fairly easy. Maybe a level limit for Brock? To prevent Metal Claw...

The Sceptile King January 27th, 2012 3:21 AM

quick question, why do we have to pick charmander?

I-Like-Shiny-Pichu January 27th, 2012 4:01 AM

Charmander is the hardest starter to start with, due to type disadvantages. I may make that an optional rule however, for those who wish to be classed "Ultimate Champions"

Dave_ January 27th, 2012 4:14 AM

I think I may give this a go later on, You can't exactly level block a gym leader though..

How do you not level grind though? If you're not strong enough to say beat brock by the time you first get to him, You try, You fail, Rinse and rpeat until you're strong enough.. that in a way is grinding?

Also surely if you can use one pokemon to beat an entire gym, It's going to start getting easy as soon the 'leader' pokemon will be far superior..

My foot may slip and hit the spacebar which may accidentally toggle speed..


Username: Dave_
Game: Blue (English)
Character Name: Dave
Rival Name: Sylar
Fossil Choice: Kabuto
Hitmon Choice: Hitmonlee
Eeveelution: Flareon/Jolteon

I-Like-Shiny-Pichu January 27th, 2012 4:24 AM

I'll remove the level grinding rule, that was mainly for me when I was originally planning it. I won't level cap the leaders, in the hope that people won't just grind up 20 levels above the leaders or something. Welcome to the challenge! I will add you to the list now.

Dave_ January 27th, 2012 4:29 AM

I see that's cool, I was jsut wondering cos I mean if you lost then that would of meant game over.. haha

I-Like-Shiny-Pichu January 27th, 2012 4:32 AM

The original revision of the challenge had no set starter, and nowhere near as many rules, I wanted to prevent myself from grinding up my starter (Bulbasaur) to own Brock, cos it takes the challenge out of it. If any other rules look a little odd, they were probably just for me, so let me know and I'll correct it

SuperKirbyFan January 27th, 2012 8:53 AM

So I'm just going to go ahead and point out, you forgot about the guy in the Pokemon Center right before Mt. Moon that sells you a Magikarp for 500.

I-Like-Shiny-Pichu January 28th, 2012 3:53 PM

I did forget him yeah, however as you pay money in return for something, I'm gonna count that as purchasing an item (will edit the rules tomorrow to include this magikarp under that rule). Thanks for pointing that out, Shiny

Togetic997 January 28th, 2012 4:23 PM

Sounds like a lot of fun.

Username: Togetic997
Game: Red
Character Name: Red
Rival Name: Blue
Fossil Choice: Kabuto
Hitmon Choice: Hitmonchan
Eeveelution: Jolteon

Wolfe January 29th, 2012 8:43 AM

I"ll try it. But it'll take me a looong time.

Username: Wolfe
Game: Blue
Character Name: Jerry
Rival Name: Tom
Fossil Choice: Kabuto
Hitmon Choice: Hitmonlee
Eeveelution: Jolteon

I-Like-Shiny-Pichu January 30th, 2012 1:37 AM

Awesome! 2 new challengers while I was away! I'll add you both to the list now. I've got my challenge on hold for a few days till I've finished the Limited Progress Challenge, but rest assured I will be starting soon! Also, I just noticed everyone has picked Kabuto and Jolteon, weird that :P

Tyranitar042 January 30th, 2012 2:55 PM

ok i would like to try it but am in some other challenges that need my attention. you could put a level cap like all your pokemon must be in at least 2-3 levels of each other so you dont train one poke to wipe out all of the opponents. just a thought. also how will we go through the dark cave without flash?

I-Like-Shiny-Pichu January 30th, 2012 3:46 PM

I may put that in the rules, not sure yet though. And getting through Dark Cave without flash is possible, it just takes patience

OmegaPinkMan January 31st, 2012 12:45 PM

I'll try this, sounds like fun!

Username: Mick Fizz
Game: Red
Character Name: MICK
Rival Name: LANDO
Fossil Choice: Helix Fossil (Omanyte)
Hitmon Choice: Hitmonlee
Eeveelution: Jolteon

Edit: Oh, and I think another exception to the no buying rule would be getting the beverage to get to Saffron in R/B/Y.

I-Like-Shiny-Pichu February 1st, 2012 2:09 AM

welcome to the challenge! I can't remember if it is possible to get past the guards without glitches or the beverage, so if you can't do it without the beverage, feel free to buy one for the guards (and only for the guards xD)

OmegaPinkMan February 2nd, 2012 7:03 PM

Challenge completed. Boy, the Elite Four is hard. It took me A LOT of tries. But it was fun!

Omastar - Lv 52
Hydro Pump
Spike Cannon
Jolteon - Lv 59
Pin Missile
Charizard - Lv 57
Hitmonlee - Lv 50
Jump Kick
Rolling Kick
Lapras - Lv 53
Hydro Pump
Ice Beam
Aerodactyl - Lv 51
Wing Attack

DarkChibimon February 2nd, 2012 7:27 PM

This sounds like a good, quick challenge

Username: DarkChibimon
Game: Blue
Character Name: Dark
Rival Name: Ryo
Fossil Choice: Kabuto
Hitmon Choice: Hitmonchan
Eeveelution: Jolteon

I-Like-Shiny-Pichu February 3rd, 2012 2:07 AM

Congratulations Mick Fizz! Thats a pretty good end time. How tough was the rest of the challenge, besides the Elite Four?

Welcome to the challenge DarkChibimon, I've added you to the challengers list.

I am really pleased that I have so many challengers, I expected maybe one or two people and then the thread to be closed cos it was inactive. I'm glad you all think its a good challenge! If anyone has any suggestions to improve it, let me know and I may consider adding them to the rules! I also need some advanced rules, and if anyone could port this to a later generation, let me know and I'll add rules for that Gen (or region technically). Thanks, Shiny

OmegaPinkMan February 3rd, 2012 8:57 AM


Originally Posted by I-Like-Shiny-Pichu (Post 7034153)
Congratulations Mick Fizz! Thats a pretty good end time. How tough was the rest of the challenge, besides the Elite Four?


Brock: Tough, lost to him thrice.
Misty: Kind of hell, had to get Charmeleon to level 30, teach him Mega Punch and get lucky in order to win.
Lt. Surge: Piece of cake
Erika: Even easier: Charizard made quick work of her.
Koga: Kind of tough, lost to him a couple times before Hitmonlee could get the job done.
Sabrina: Lost to her twice before Aerodactyl pwned her.
Blaine: Lapras. Surf. Easy one.
Giovanni: I made the stupid decision of challenging the Gym with Aerodactyl :P and it took me a whole lot of tries (his Rhydon always ended up KOing me. That was, till I taught him Toxic and spammed Fly like a madman.

And training in Diglett's Cave and the Cinnabar Mansion to get Lapras, Omanyte/Omastar and Aerodactyl to Lv 48 and catch up was also pretty tough.

But all in all, it was very challenging and fun!

J1KTheGamer February 3rd, 2012 2:48 PM

Username: J1KTheGamer
Game: Red
Character Name: J
Rival Name: Blue
Fossil Choice: Kabuto
Hitmon Choice: Hitmonlee
Eeveelution: Jolteon

I-Like-Shiny-Pichu February 4th, 2012 12:54 PM

I expected Surge to be difficult (cos of Charmander being Charizard by then) but I guess it would be overlevelled by then, so fairly simple.

Welcome to the challenge J1KTheGamer, added you to the list

J1KTheGamer February 4th, 2012 2:16 PM

My progres so far
Beat 4 gyms
Charizard lvl 47
Jolteon lvl 26
i think thats it :o

Enigma February 4th, 2012 5:05 PM

Username: InfernoRogue
Game: Red
Character Name: Inferno
Rival Name: Gary
Fossil Choice: Kabuto
Hitmon Choice: Hitmonlee
Eeveelution: Jolteon

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