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Hikamaru September 2nd, 2012 4:02 AM

Who was the hardest Champion? - The Redux
The old thread died out so time for a remake.

This one is simple, which Champion did you find the hardest in the Pokemon games?

Castform September 2nd, 2012 4:51 AM

I have not battled Iris as champ yet but for the ones I have, I have to say Cynthia. Her Garchomp is a beast and her Gastrodon can be really tough also. And I believe her Pokemon all have perfect IVs.

As for the rest. Blue was pretty tough in blue, but as I became more experienced he got much easier. Lance was really underleveled IMO. Steven was super easy if you chose Blaziken or Swampert. Wallace was just annoying and should have never been champion, I mean you just battled a water specialist why make you have to face another. And lastly, Alder. I almost voted for him, because his Quiver Dance Volcarona is REALLY good, but a good rock move cripples him easily.

This is my thought. I may change my opinion after I get my Black 2 copy I am waiting on. 1 month 5 days!

LightningAlex September 2nd, 2012 5:09 AM

I think Blue is the hardest (In the original Red/Blue, not the remake). His highest level is 65, which is really high!
And I agree with jellicentfan1, Lance was horribly underleveled. The easiest champ IMHO.

PikachuAddict September 2nd, 2012 5:31 AM

I'm going to say Cynthia. Like the others have said, Lance was way underleveled, and I haven't battled any of the other Champions so I'll have to say Cynthia.

Arcoz September 2nd, 2012 5:36 AM

Imo Steven. I chose Treecko so I didn't have an awesome water/fire type. I had to trade in a Blaziken because Ludicolo wasn't enough.

motb777 September 2nd, 2012 6:02 AM

Blue/Gary. He has the strongest pokemons in my opinion.

Haddez September 2nd, 2012 6:07 AM

I went with Blue.
When I first played Pokmon Blue I was 4. He is a hard person for a 4 year old to beat, but I did :D (Thank you my beloved Growlithe for beating his last Pokemon Charizard)

AquaticWartortle September 2nd, 2012 6:44 AM

Blue, when you rematch him in FR LG, his Pokemon have every recovery move (such as Tyranitar with Thunder, Gyaradoes with Earthquake), and i'd have to say Lance in G/S was the weakest, I only had to use Feraligatr to beat him.

Vato September 2nd, 2012 7:54 AM

I'll say Cynthia. I literally spent half an hour trying to beat her. Most of the time went on her Garchomp. It's the longest time I've spent trying to bet a champion, and since I haven't fought Iris yet, I'll say Cynthia.

gimmepie September 2nd, 2012 9:18 AM

Cynthia. Her Garchomp is a pain to beat and her Gastrodon caused me trouble too (what's with the G's).

Blue was the easiest for me.

I actually found Wallace to be an alright champion and I quite liked the pretence for him being champ (besides he made room for the awesome battle with Steven).

PlatinumDude September 2nd, 2012 10:37 AM

I'm going with Blue in FR/LG because of how he has the starter strong against yours.

Cynthia comes in close because of her Garchomp.

Mentalii September 2nd, 2012 2:32 PM

I had a hard time with Cynthia recently. Her Garchomp's pretty tough. So I voted for her.

o Pikachu o September 2nd, 2012 4:39 PM

Cynthia - her team in Diamond is ridiculous because her Garchomp is too good and her Milotic's hard as hell to knock out. Then she has a Lucario which has a retarded moveset. It took me a week to beat her.

Easiest would be Blue in LeafGreen. (tbh Kanto E4 was easy) I beat him with this team Charizard, Vaporeon, Snorlax, Dragonite. I ko'd most his Pokèmon with outrage and my Pokèmon were around level 53-57

Snowdrop September 2nd, 2012 4:45 PM

I remember Cynthia being rather hard, but every time I reset the game I use different Pokemon so the degree of difficulty varies a lot. Out of them all, I'd say Cynthia's been the toughest. Her Milotic could take hits like a freight train. Her Lucario seemed to have insane strength, too @_@

Noah Ridgewood September 9th, 2012 8:33 AM

Cynthia > Steven > Blue > Alder > Lance > Wallace

Haven't played B2W2, so I don't know where Iris fits on my difficulty scale.

Jetsee Studios September 9th, 2012 10:56 AM

The Poll Is Incomplete. Reason 1 is the fact that in Pokemon HeartGold and SoulSilver, when you talk to blue at cinnabar town, he tells you "i used to be kantos champion, but that was short lived thanks to red" So that means Red should be a option. You dont need a fancy league with an elite 4 to be champion. the system clearly was capable of being bent. Reason 2 is the fact that Cynthea makes a come back in unova and her pokemon are indeed very strong. in fact, stronger than her default diamond, pearl, and platinum team. new additions to her team were included as well, such as her elektross or braviary. So Red should be included and cynthea should be updated as Cynthea BW. Also. Every Champions Team has been upgraded in b2w2 as well. so the poll could be fixed. like this.
Steven BW2
Cynthea BW
Cynthea BW2

Rodriguezjames55 September 9th, 2012 11:19 AM

blue in the rematch was hard aside from that they were all easy

Yukari September 9th, 2012 11:24 AM

by far Cynthia i found all the other far to easy and alder was a big pushover

Red99 September 9th, 2012 1:52 PM

To me, Everyone was a breeze, except for Lance in HG. I had to migrate a few high leveled legendaries to beat him. As for Iris, I've never battled her as a champion, so I wouldn't know.

Razoof September 9th, 2012 6:45 PM

Honestly the difficulty varies based on the team of the trainer battling the champion so for some the champions will be easy but, for some they'll have one in particular that was hard to them.
I've never really had a problem with any of the champions, except for the first battle when I'm not sure what to expect from them after that they're all easy.

Hikamaru September 9th, 2012 9:23 PM

Lance for me, those Dragonites of his hit me like a train.

Also, I had a lack of Ice-type attacks on me so I often had trouble hitting them super-effectively.

Cynthia would come a close second due to the diversity of her team's types and moves, and her Pokemon also come stacked with perfect IVs/EVs.

Ω Ruby and α Sapphire September 9th, 2012 10:53 PM

Steven/Wallace because it was my first Pokemon game and I made the classic mistake of training up only one Pokemon. :O

halcyonic September 9th, 2012 11:01 PM

Well, I've beaten all including Iris with the help of emulation & I must say, Iris was a handful. I was down to my last 'Mon when I was struggling with her Haxorus.

Ninjagon September 10th, 2012 10:32 PM

Haven't played B2W2, but I found, and still find Cynthia to be the hardest. They cranked the difficulty up full notch when it came down to her.

Ryliam September 21st, 2012 6:10 PM

I've always found Cynthia the hardest :/

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