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Pppgggr October 11th, 2012 3:51 PM

Cartoon Network.....Has it fallen into a pit?
When I was younger, Cartoon Network was my favorite channel, and even today at the age 14, I can look back at episodes of some of the older shows it used to host like Looney Toons or Dexter's Laboratory and still enjoy myself to some degree. The Cartoon Network of the past also had a brilliant form of Toonami, easily trumping the quality of the Toonami Adult Swim has given us today.

The new shows that inhabit the channel, however, are complete failures, in my opinion. Shows like the Regular Show and Adventure Time are incredibly stupid and annoying to watch, the annoying Orange is a HORRIBLE attempt at turning an internet show into a TV show, like Fred, and MAD is a weak attempt at making a children's version of Robot Chicken.

I've heard some people enjoy adventure time at the very least, but I'm unaware of much of a fanbase for some of the other shows on the channel. Is it just me, or do you guys think Cartoon Network has dug itself into a hole that it can't climb out of?

LividZephyr October 11th, 2012 4:31 PM

We're all likely going to agree to this. Although several of their newer shows seem really stupid - the same can be said for Nickelodeon - part of it is nostalgia and what WE grew up with. What would the kids of today think about OUR favorite shows? What will they think in 15 years?

I don't really watch TV anymore because the quality has dropped all around in my mind. Shows just aren't produced to the same quality - and maybe I've just seen enough of it. That could also be a contributing factor. Maybe TV in general has just run out of original ideas...

CourageHound October 11th, 2012 4:38 PM

I agree whole heartedly that what cartoon network is giving us today is nowhere near up to par of what it used to be. Cartoon Network used to be my 'go-to' channel when i was bored. But now when i flip(which i dont get to do much too often now) on the tv all i see or shows that make me shake my head and flip the channel. I'm thouroghly disapointed with the Live Action shows that have reared their head on cartoon network...which....are just terrible. Not to mention its CARTOON Network! Not Live Action network -_-. for shows left on CN that are good; How to Train your Dragon recently aired which is awesome. However, the two shows you mentioned Regular Show and Adventure time I actually enjoy then due to me always gettin a good laugh reguardless of the episode, although its a personal preference thing I guess. But I must agree that shows like MAD, Fred, and LIVE ACTION shows need to go. Like quick.

Kinda reminds me of that Toon Disney/Jetix(awesomeness) transition to Disney XD(made me weep a bit at the first look at their shows).

Sandshrew4 October 11th, 2012 5:38 PM

I hate every show on cartoon network. I used to like pokemon but lately thats gone downhill. Other than that, nope, i hate every show.

Mario The World Champion October 11th, 2012 6:24 PM

This is why I watch my favorite shows on DVD.

The Grubby Pup October 11th, 2012 8:17 PM

well, to be honest the only things I watch on Cartoon Network; beside Adult Swim...Well, is Looney Tunes Show, Adventure Time...That Dragon show and Regular Show and that's only when they're new episodes.

...I've been stop watching Pokemon on there...And da rest of the stuff that airs on that...pfft.

Empire October 11th, 2012 8:20 PM

I agree with you, CN has turned into a shadow of it's former self.
What's adventure time meant to be anyway? It portrays itself as a kid show yet it has mature humour.

Lance October 11th, 2012 8:57 PM

It fell into a pit a long time ago after Toonami's Golden Age/when Toonami died. Hasn't been the same since.

Jude Mathis October 11th, 2012 10:21 PM


Originally Posted by LividZephyr (Post 7368873)
We're all likely going to agree to this. Although several of their newer shows seem really stupid - the same can be said for Nickelodeon - part of it is nostalgia and what WE grew up with. What would the kids of today think about OUR favorite shows? What will they think in 15 years?

I don't really watch TV anymore because the quality has dropped all around in my mind. Shows just aren't produced to the same quality - and maybe I've just seen enough of it. That could also be a contributing factor. Maybe TV in general has just run out of original ideas...


I used to enjoy plenty of CN shows, but if those same shows were on today, I wouldn't watch them, I'd probably find them stupid. So I say that about todays shows, but plenty of younger kids are watching them without complaining.

So my biased opinion is that, yes, CN isn't as good now, but it's really about the same as it was before, I'm just not growing up with what's airing on it now.

Hannah October 12th, 2012 4:20 AM

I liked the old Cartoon Network. Especially the Powerpuff Girls. Now the only thing worth watching on CN is Adventure Time, and it's my favorite show.

TrollShammy80 October 12th, 2012 9:48 PM

Only thing worth watching is Pokemon and Adult Swim the ocassional Looney Tunes show

Ryoutarou October 13th, 2012 6:20 PM

There are a few good shows, but if I'm bored and flicking through channels, it's not one I'm likely to find something I enjoy playing on. The big shows I still love and watch are The Looney Tunes Show, Green Lantern, Young Justice, and Adventure Time...which is an acquired taste, but it's a ton of fun. I think what I dislike the most about CN is their scheduling practices with shows I like. The entire DC Nation block was taken off the air today after just two weeks back from summer hiatus and won't be returning until January. Apparently it was a last minute thing too as even the show runners for Young Justice and Green Lantern had no idea what was going on.

HoyNeeks October 13th, 2012 6:59 PM

The only show I like now is Adventure Time, but yeah it's pretty stupid now. Especially the Regular Show, I HATE that show soooo much.

YungKnowledge October 13th, 2012 11:05 PM

I still like Cartoon Network but I don't like every show. I watch Adventure Time, Regular Show, Adult Swim, Toonami and some time The new Loony Tunes. But I stay up most nights or wake up really early to watch the classic Loony Tunes. I'm the same age of the network and I miss the older stuff like Powerpuff Girls, Samurai Jack, The Sunday block when they used to show classic 70s cartoons, A Pup Name Scooby Doo, The Flintstones, and The Jetsons.

Edward Elric October 26th, 2012 5:17 PM

CN is a train wreck now. Seriously, all the shows on there now are horrid. I think they try too hard to be funny. I miss the old CN, but I think the new CN is a result of the new generation of kids coming in, and maybe thats why a lot of older fans dont like it anymore.

Katamari October 26th, 2012 5:22 PM

Adventure Time and The Regular Show are actually the best cartoons on right now. They're actually as mature as some of the old cartoons we were given us, especially Adventure Time which has a lot of really adult hidden themes. The Looney Tunes Show is also really good to me, but a lot of people in the nostalgia box reject it after 5 minutes.

That Gumball show is actually pretty good too, very reminiscent of the older cartoons.

I think most of the posters in this thread are only hating on the new stuff for nostalgic reasons, tbh.

But I do agree The Annoying Orange and several other shows do suck. Doesn't mean I liked every single show back then, though.

Edward Elric October 26th, 2012 5:28 PM


Originally Posted by AzaleaLightning (Post 7386506)
I think most of the posters in this thread are only hating on the new stuff for nostalgic reasons, tbh..

I think this also, but for me, its based on the quality of the new shows. I just don't feel like they're entertaining to me. When I think back to the old shows, I remember how entertaining they were.

I do admit, sometimes I have caught Adventure Time, if it happened to be on, and I would say that show isn't horrible.

Harley Quinn October 27th, 2012 2:19 PM

I like Adventure Time! It's one of the few shows I can sit down and enjoy watching, without having to worry about cringing at some terrible 'edgy' joke designed to appeal to the kids who still watch Cartoon Network. It's a good, fun show and it's intelligent too! About as intelligent as you get for a show centering around a young boy who runs around saving candy people from various, dastardly villains and unfortunate situations. I need Toujours to back me up on this, Adventure Time is just a really good show.

So is Regular Show! A show that appeal our age can enjoy, if only for the constant references it makes to culture and what not. The plots are, well, stupid, but they're intentionally stupid, unlike some of the other shows I have had the displeasure of watching over the last few years. Regular Show is my favorite out of the two, there's just something about it that connects with me.

Although I don't like most of Cartoon Network's lineup nowadays, I don't think it's fallen into a pit. Yes, with the fall of Toonami the channel did drop quite measurably in everyone's standards, but I think more and more people are hating the channel simply because it's fashionable to do so. Take Disney, for starters. Everyone hates that channel not just because of the rather lackluster programming on it today, but also because everyone else hates it. Grow some backbone, people. I'm also echoing AzaleaLightning when I say that another reason people hate Cartoon Network today is because of the nostalgia they have for the old shows on the network. I love, and will always love, The Powerpuff Girls 100x more than Regular Show, but I'm not blind to the fact that the channel had it's faults back in the day too. It's a new generation of kids, people, they find different things funny. You have to move on and accept that Cartoon Network, along with Disney and whatever, are moving in a new direction.

SamuJake October 27th, 2012 9:09 PM

2 decent shows left on Cartoon Network. Regular Show and Adventure time. Adventure time is incredibly popular. Never really watched Cartoon Network, though. But seriously, shows are made differently to suit the current audience. Shows are different to what you would have grown up with.

Arcturus. October 28th, 2012 5:19 PM

I'm really disappointed with the quality of shows on CN now. I do sometimes catch Adventure Time and Regular Show, which I have mixed feelings about. I don't think there's any excuse for the quality of the rest of the shows they air now though. Adult Swim and Toonami is what I watch most of the time now. I'll always miss the good ol' days.

Blaze42 October 29th, 2012 8:02 AM

It seems good to me. Adventure Time, Regular Show, Gumball, Young Justice, Green Lantern, Looney Tunes(New and old) are great. Of course, there's Annoying Orange and MAD, but we can ignore those.

Para-Dox October 29th, 2012 12:40 PM

While I haven't watched cartoon network for about half a year - or any kind of tv that isn't plugged into a game console - I can safely say they're the best children's channel currently. That previous statement doesn't refer to the quality on the channel at all. There is still tat like Annoying Orange and Almost Naked Animals on the channel.

Yet, there a few hidden gems on the channel, my personal favourite being Adventure Time. Sure, the animation is quite low-end, and some parts of it make you think the people who made the show were doing hard drugs, but it's still a very enjoyable and smart kids show.

Another good show on the network is The Amazing World of Gumball. It has a unique animation style based around 2d and 3d animation, being placed on backdrops which are photos from actual places in real life. The jokes are quite amusing and aren't obnoxious. The only real issues with the show is how one-dimensional the characters can sometimes be.

To conclude (or tl;dr, if you prefer) , Cartoon Network has been improving recently. Sure, it's not near the magnum opus it was back in the 90's, but it's showing signs of returning to that form sometime in the future.

Correspondence October 29th, 2012 12:55 PM

I don't really watch it anymore but the quality of that channel has really gone down.

Guy October 31st, 2012 6:35 AM

Cartoon Network will only appear as a fallen network to those who grew up watching it back in the 90's to around 2005-07 and a big reason for that is the "nostalgic factor." Otherwise, it's still thriving on its own with the new aged kids that watch it today.

I'll admit, I certainly don't watch Cartoon Network as much as I used to, but that also applies to many of the other channels targeted at kids and young teens today like Disney Channel and Nickelodeon. It's not because I think their shows don't compare to the shows I grew up watching (although, to an extent this is true), but because I've grown up; I've grown to like things that are more suitable for my age group today.

I still tune in for some of Cartoon Network's new shows today though (Green Lantern, Young Justice, Riders: Dragons of Berk, Adventure Time, Regular Show, and their Cartoon Planet block). All of which I think are good shows and suitable for ages above CN's actual target audience.

So, no, I don't believe Cartoon Network has fallen into a hole it can't get out of, but I certainly do believe they can be better.

roosterman October 31st, 2012 11:14 AM

yes! adventure time is ok sometimes but the rest is just plain awful, and the sad part is that all my friends watch it because its the only channel they have besides news channels and infomercial channels, thats probably the only reason they can stay on air.
EDIT: and to all the people that say we're just used to the other shows i'd like to say that i'm actually young enough that i never really watched it back then because my mom didn't want me to hear the word stupid but now that i can watch it i can see that the old ones were pretty good but these new ones are just *smirk* stupid

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