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**Note**
This guide is not yet complete - I actually only started on it about an hour ago. I'm simply posting it now because I don't want to lose the progress I've made, and I don't want to take the risk of the file I save it to on my computer being lost. I've recently contracted a trojan, and I'm scouring through my files and registry keys to find the issue, but until then I'm backing everything up, and I figured I might as well let you guys and gals watch this guide progress. My school year just ended, so this guide should be done very soon. I'll be making regular updates, so keep checking back, and even give suggestions if you'd like!

The Basics


Hello, and welcome to my Metallic Breeding guide! Here you will find anything and everything you want to know about breeding in Gold, Silver, and Crystal Version. I mean everything - if there is something you'd like to know that isn't in this guide, please tell me and it will be added as soon as possible, and I will also discuss it with you in private to better answer your question. This guide has come about from years of tampering with the Metallic breeding system. Please sit back and enjoy as you learn the secrets of breeding, genetics, and even Shinies!

Table of Contents


Breeding Groups


Where else better to start than figuring out which Pokemon can breed together? Below I've listed every breeding group, including every Pokemon within those breeding groups. You will need to know these - or at least have them ready - for the rest of the guide, as you obviously can't breed without knowing what Pokemon can breed together. (If you are looking for a specific Pokemon, just hit Ctrl+F and type the name of the Pokemon)

Plant
Chikorita, Bayleef, Meganium, Bellsprout, Weepinbell, Victreebel, Hoppip, Skiploom, Jumpluff, Paras, Parasect, Oddish, Gloom, Vileplume, Bellossom, Sunkern, Sunflora, Exeggcute, Exeggutor, Tangela, Bulbasaur, Ivysaur, Venusaur

Bug
Caterpie, Metapod, Butterfree, Weedle, Kakuna, Beedrill, Ledyba, Ledian, Spinarak, Ariados, Paras, Parasect, Pineco, Forretress, Yanma, Venonat, Venomoth, Scyther, Scizor, Pinsir, Heracross, Shuckle, Gligar

Mineral
Geodude, Graveler, Golem, Onix, Steelix, Sudowoodo

Gender Unknown
Magnemite, Magneton, Voltorb, Electrode, Staryu, Starmie, Porygon, Porygon2

Indeterminate
Gastly, Haunter, Gengar, Wobbuffet, Koffing, Weezing, Grimer, Muk, Slugma, Magcargo, Misdreavus

Human Shape
Drowzee, Hypno, Abra, Kadabra, Alakazam, Machop, Machoke, Machamp, Hitmonlee, Hitmonchan, Hitmontop, Magmar, Jynx, Electabuzz, Mr. Mime

Dragon
Ekans, Arbok, Magikarp, Gyarados, Horsea, Seadra, Kingdra, Charmander, Charmeleon, Charizard, Dratini, Dragonair, Dragonite

Fairy
Pikachu, Raichu, Clefairy, Clefable, Jigglypuff, Wigglytuff, Togetic, Hoppip, Skiploom, Jumpluff, Snubbull, Granbull, Marill, Azumarill, Chansey, Blissey

Flying
Pidgey, Pidgeotto, Pidgeto, Spearow, Fearow, Hoothoot, Noctowl, Zubat, Golbat, Crobat, Togetic, Farfetch'd, Natu, Xatu, Skarmory, Doduo, Dodrio, Murkrow, Aerodactyl

Monster
Chikorita, Bayleef, Meganium, Totodile, Croconaw, Feraligatr, Mareep, Flaaffy, Ampharos, Slowpoke, Slowbro, Slowking, Nidoran (M), Nidoran (F), Nidorino, Nidoking, Lickitung, Cubone, Marowak, Kangaskhan, Rhyhorn, Rhydon, Lapras, Snorlax, Bulbasaur, Ivysaur, Venusaur, Charmander, Charmeleon, Charizard, Squirtle, Wartortle, Blastoise, Larvitar, Pupitar, Tyranitar

No Eggs
Pichu, Cleffa, Igglybuff, Togepi, Unown, Nidorina, Nidoqueen, Tyrogue, Magby, Smoochum, Elekid, Articuno, Moltres, Zapdos, Raikou, Suicune, Entei, Lugia, Ho-oh, Mewtwo, Mew, Celebi

Water 1
Totodile, Croconaw, Feraligatr, Wooper, Quagsire, Poliwag, Poliwhirl, Poliwrath, Politoed, Slowpoke, Slowbro, Slowking, Marill, Azumarill, Psyduck, Golduck, Corsola, Remoraid, Octillery, Seel, Dewgong, Horsea, Seadra, Kingdra, Delibird, Mantine, Lapras, Omanyte, Omastar, Kabuto, Kabutops, Squirtle, Wartortle, Blastoise, Dratini, Dragonair, Dragonite

Water 2
Magikarp, Gyarados, Goldeen, Seaking, Qwilfish, Remoraid, Octillery, Chinchou, Lanturn

Water 3
Tentacool, Tentacruel, Krabby, Kingler, Shellder, Cloyster, Corsola, Omanyte, Omastar, Kabuto, Kabutops

Ground
Cyndaquil, Quilava, Typhlosion, Rattata, Raticate, Sentret, Furret, Pikachu, Sandshrew, Sandslash, Ekans, Arbok, Dunsparce, Mareep, Flaaffy, Ampharos, Wooper, Quagsire, Nidoran (F), Nidoran (M), Nidorino, Nidoking, Aipom, Snubbull, Granbull, Vulpix, Ninetales, Growlithe, Arcanine, Stantler, Diglett, Dugtrio, Mankey, Primeape, Meowth, Persian, Psyduck, Golduck, Girafarig, Tauros, Miltank, Smeargle, Farfetch'd, Seel, Dewgong, Eevee, Vaporeon, Jolteon, Flareon, Umbreon, Espeon, Delibird, Swinub, Piloswine, Teddiursa, Ursaring, Phanpy, Donphan, Ponyta, Rapidash, Rhyhorn, Rhydon, Houndour, Houndoom, Sneasel


Breeding Group Connectors


There are quite a few Pokemon that have more than one breeding group. You will need to know these for things like genetic breeding and Shiny breeding. Fortunately, I've compiled them all into a neat little list so you don't have to sift through everything above.

Breeding Group (# of other groups it's connected with) [other, groups]

Plant (3) [Monster, Bug, Fairy]
Bulbasaur (Monster), Ivysaur (Monster), Venusaur (Monster), Paras (Bug), Parasect (Bug), Chikorita (Monster), Bayleef (Monster), Meganium (Monster), Hoppip (Fairy), Skiploom (Fairy), Jumpluff (Fairy)

Bug (1) [Plant]
Paras (Plant), Parasect (Plant)

Mineral (0) [n/a]
n/a

Dragon (4) [Monster, Ground, Water 1, Water 2]
Charmander (Monster), Charmeleon (Monster), Charizard (Monster), Ekans (Ground), Arbok (Ground), Horsea (Water 1), Seadra (Water 1), Magikarp (Water 2), Gyarados (Water 2), Dratini (Water 1), Dragonair (Water 1), Dragonite (Water 1), Kingdra (Water 1)

Flying (2) [Ground, Fairy]
Farfetch'd (Ground), Togetic (Fairy)

Gender Unknown (0) [n/a]
n/a

Indeterminate (0) [n/a]
n/a

Monster (4) [Plant, Dragon, Water 1, Ground]
Bulbasaur (Plant), Ivysaur (Plant), Venusaur (Plant), Charmander (Dragon), Charmeleon (Dragon), Charizard (Dragon), Squirtle (Water 1), Wartortle (Water 1), Blastoise (Water 1), Nidoran (F) (Ground), Nidoran (M) (Ground), Nidorino (Ground), Nidoking (Ground), Slowpoke (Water 1), Slowbro (Water 1), Rhyhorn (Ground), Rhydon (Ground), Lapras (Water 1), Chikorita (Plant), Bayleef (Plant), Meganium (Plant), Totodile (Water 1), Croconaw (Water 1), Feraligatr (Water 1), Mareep (Ground), Flaaffy (Ground), Ampharos (Ground), Slowking (Water 1)

No Eggs (0) [n/a]
n/a

Fairy (4) [Ground, Water 1, Plant, Flying]
Pikachu (Ground), Marill (Water 1), Azumarill (Water 1), Hoppip (Plant), Skiploom (Plant), Jumpluff (Plant), Snubbull (Ground), Granbull (Ground), Togetic (Flying)

Water 1 (6) [Monster, Ground, Dragon, Water 3, Fairy, Water 2]
Squirtle (Monster), Wartortle (Monster), Blastoise (Monster), Slowpoke (Monster), Slowbro (Monster), Seel (Ground), Dewgong (Ground), Horsea (Dragon), Seadra (Dragon), Lapras (Monster), Omanyte (Water 3), Omastar (Water 3), Kabuto (Water 3), Kabutops (Water 3), Dratini (Dragon), Dragonair (Dragon), Dragonite (Dragon), Totodile (Monster), Croconaw (Monster), Feraligatr (Monster), Marill (Fairy), Azumarill (Fairy), Wooper (Ground), Quagsire (Ground), Slowking (Monster), Corsola (Water 3), Remoraid (Water 2), Octillery (Water 2), Delibird (Ground), Kingdra (Dragon)

Water 2 (2) [Dragon, Water 1]
Magikarp (Dragon), Gyarados (Dragon), Remoraid (Water 1), Octillery (Water 1)

Water 3 (1) [Water 1]
Omanyte (Water 1), Omastar (Water 1), Kabuto (Water 1), Kabutops (Water 1), Corsola (Water 1)

Ground (5) [Dragon, Fairy, Monster, Flying, Water 1]
Ekans (Dragon), Arbok (Dragon), Pikachu (Fairy), Nidoran (F) (Monster), Nidoran (M) (Monster), Nidorino (Monster), Nidoking (Monster), Farfetch'd (Flying), Seel (Water 1), Dewgong (Water 1), Rhyhorn (Monster), Rhydon (Monster), Mareep (Monster), Flaaffy (Monster), Ampharos (Monster), Wooper (Water 1), Quagsire (Water 1), Snubbull (Fairy), Granbull (Fairy), Delibird (Water 1)


When will your egg come into the world?


Your egg doesn't always come into the world from a certain amount of steps. It goes by a fairly simple system involving your Pokemon's species and ID number. When you put your two Pokemon in the daycare, a random number between 0 and 255 is chosen. For every step you take, the number is decreased by 1. When this number finally hits 0, another random number will be chosen from 0 to 255. This second random number will be compared to a pre-calculated value, which is determined by how compatible your two Pokemon are. Please see the list below to figure out this value:

Same species, different ID numbers: 254 (It shows interest in the other Pokemon.)
Same species, same ID numbers: 177 (It's friendly with the other Pokemon.)
Different species, different ID numbers: 128 (It's friendly with the other Pokemon.)
Different species, same ID numbers: 51 (It appears to care for the other Pokemon.)
Not capable of breeding: 0 (It has no interest in the other Pokemon. ; It's brimming with energy!)

If your second random number is lower than your pre-calculated value, an egg will be born. If not, the process will start over again and the egg will not yet be born.


Gender Ratios


You rarely have a 100% chance of getting the gender you want. There's many reasons you may need a specific gender.. egg move chaining, shiny breeding, genetic breeding, and more. Please look below to see the Gender Ratios of every Pokemon. Keep in mind that 1/8=12.5%, 1/4=25%, 3/8=37.5%, 1/2=50%, 5/8=67.5%, 3/4=75%, and 7/8=87.5%.

Male: 87.5% Female: 12.5% Male: 87.5% Female: 12.5% Male: 87.5% Female: 12.5%


Breeding Attacks


A wonderful aspect about breeding - especially to you hardcore trainers - is the fact that you can breed certain attacks to your offspring. How do you do this? Well look below and you'll see!

First of all, you need to know that the male is the only one that can pass down an attack. Keep that in mind, as it's very important. There are 4 different ways you can transfer an attack down to your offspring.

1) Naturally Learned Attacks Before Level 5
There are certain attacks that will ALWAYS be there when your Pokemon hatches, depending on what Pokemon it is. Certain Pokemon have more open slots in their moveset than others do when they are born. Below I've listed the Pokemon and how many slots they have in their moveset when they are born.

0
Wobbuffet, Girafarig

1
Venonat, Grimer, Lapras, Porygon, Chinchou, Cleffa, Igglybuff, Hoppip, Snubbull

2
Any Pokemon not listed (will update soon)

3
Sandshrew, Zubat, Oddish, Paras, Poliwag, Abra, Bellsprout, Tentacool, Geodude, Magnemite, Farfetch'd, Voltorb, Lickitung, Kangaskhan, Horsea, Mr. Mime, Pinsir, Magikarp, Aerodactyl, Snorlax, Ledyba, Murkrow, Gligar, Slugma, Swinub, Corsola, Remoraid, Delibird, Stantler, Smeargle, Tyrogue, Magby

Those attacks are ALWAYS there and set in stone, like I said.

2) Naturally Learned Attacks By Leveling Up
Yes, you can now have Mirror Move on your level 5 Pidgey, or in Crystal version, Metal Claw on your level 5 Sneasel. Wonderful, isn't it? It's actually very, very simple. If both of the parents that you breed have an attack that the offspring can learn naturally through leveling up, then the offspring will have it 100% of the time. Therefore, if you breed a male Sneasel that has Metal Claw and a female Sneasel that has Metal Claw (on Crystal version), you will produce babies that also have Metal Claw.

3) TMs/HMs
If the father knows a G/S/C TM/HM that the offspring can learn, then the offspring will have that TM/HM when it is born. Best. Money saver. Ever.

4) Egg Moves
You can also pass down things called Egg Moves. Please go to the "Egg Moves" section to learn more.


So now we have to put all of this together in order to find out our offspring's final moveset. This is pretty easy - just read the instructions below.

Let's try an example. We will be producing a Mareep as our offspring. Mareep's 2 default attacks are Tackle and Growl.


*Tackle
*Growl

Here are the 2 parents we are going to use:

(M)
*Thundershock
*Thunder
*Thunderbolt
*Thunder Wave

(F)
*Thunderpunch
*Tackle
*Thunder Wave
*Cotton Spore

Both awful movesets, but let's move on. We have to take the steps I gave you earlier in order. So first of all, both parents have Thunder Wave, which Mareep learns naturally through leveling. Now we have:


*Tackle
*Growl
*Thunder Wave

If you noticed, you'll see that the Pikachu has Thunder, it's the father, and Thunder is a G/S/C TM. Cha-ching!


*Tackle
*Growl
*Thunder Wave
*Thunder

The Pikachu also has the attack Thunderbolt. Well, if you looked ahead, you'll realize that Thunderbolt is one of Mareep's Egg Moves.


*Tackle
*Growl
*Thunder Wave
*Thunder
*Thunderbolt

But Pokemon can only have 4 attacks, correct? I'm pretty sure that's correct. So we just take attacks off from the top of the list until we're down to 4.


*Growl
*Thunder Wave
*Thunder
*Thunderbolt

And there you have it! How to breed moves and know exactly what your offspring's moveset is going to be, even before you hatch it.


Egg Moves


Egg Moves are wonderful things - they allow you to get certain attacks onto your Pokemon that would otherwise be impossible! In order to pass down an Egg Move, the father needs to have the desired Egg Move when you breed, and the child will have the attack when it hatches! I've made a list of every Pokemon's Egg Moves and how to get them - enjoy! These instructions take you to the point where the father should have the attack - from here, just breed the male with a Female of the Pokemon corresponding to the egg move, and voila!

Bulbasaur
Razor Wind - On R/B/Y, teach a Butterfree or Venomoth TM02 Razor Wind, and then transfer to G/S/C and breed with a female from the Bulbasaur family.
Safeguard - Breed with a male from the Chikorita family that has learned Safeguard.
Petal Dance - Breed with a male from the Oddish family or Sunflora that has learned Petal Dance.
Light Screen - Breed with a male from the Chikorita family or the Mareep family that has learned Light Screen.
Skull Bash - Breed with a male from the Squirtle family that has learned Skull Bash.

Charmander
Rock Slide - Breed with a male from the Larvitar family that has learned Rock Slide.
Bite - Breed with a male from the Ekans, Larvitar, Squirtle, or Totodile family that has learned Bite.
Outrage - Breed with a male from the Dratini family that has learned Outrage.
Ancientpower - Breed a male from the Corsola, Kabuto, or Omanyte family that has learned Ancientpower with a female from the Totodile family and produce a male. Now breed this male offspring with a female from the Charmander family.
Belly Drum - Breed with a male Snorlax that has learned Belly Drum.
Beat Up - Breed a male Sneasel that has learned Beat Up with a female from the Ekans family or Nidoran (F) to produce a Nidoran (M). Breed this offspring with a female from the Charmander family.

Squirtle
Haze - Breed with a male from the Wooper family that has learned Haze.
Flail - Breed a male from the Magikarp family that has learned Flail with a female from the Horsea family and produce a male. Breed this offspring with a female from the Squirtle family.
Mist - Breed with a male from the Wooper family that has learned Mist.
Confusion - Breed with a male from the Slowpoke or Psyduck family that has learned Confusion.
Foresight - Breed a male from the Hoothoot family that has learned Foresight with a female Farfetch'd and produce a male offspring, and breed this offspring with a female from the Psyduck family to produce a male. Breed this male offspring with a female from the Squirtle family.
Mirror Coat - Breed with a male Corsola that has learned Mirror Coat.

Caterpie
None

Weedle
None

Pidgey
Pursuit - Breed with a male from the Doduo or Spearow family that has learned Pursuit.
Faint Attack - Breed with a male Murkrow that has learned Faint Attack.
Foresight - Breed with a male from the Hoothoot family that has learned Foresight.

Rattata
Bite - Breed with a male Eevee, Flareon, Vaporeon, or from the Ekans, Growlithe, Houndour, Meowth, or Snubbull family that has learned Bite.
Counter - Breed a male Heracross that has learned Counter with a female from the Paras family and produce a male. Breed this male with a female from the Chikorita family and produce a male offspring. Breed this male with a female from the Rhyhorn family and produce a male offspring. Now breed this with a female from the Rattata family.
Flame Wheel - Breed with a male from the Cyndaquil or Growlithe family that has learned Flame Wheel.
Fury Swipes - Breed with a male Aipom or from the Mankey, Meowth, Psyduck, Sandshrew, Sentret, or Teddiursa family that has learned Fury Swipes.
Reversal - Teach a wild male Smeargle the attack, and then catch it. Now breed this male with a female from the Rattata family.
Screech - Breed with a male Aipom, Dunsparce, Sneasel, Umbreon, or from the Ekans, Manky, Meowth, or Psyduck family that has learned Screech.

Spearow
Faint Attack - Breed with a male Murkrow that has learned Faint Attack.
False Swipe - Breed with a male Farfetch'd that has learned False Swipe.
Quick Attack - Breed with a male from the Pidgey family that has learned Quick Attack.
Scary Face - Breed with a male Aerodactyl that has learned Scary Face.
Tri-Attack - Breed with a male from the Doduo family that has learned Tri-Attack.

Ekans
Beat Up - Breed with a male Sneasel that has learned Beat Up.
Pursuit - Breed with a male Dunsparce, Tauros, Umbreon, or from the Rattata family that has learned Pursuit.
Slam - Breed with a male from the Dratini, Pikachu, Sentret, or Wooper family that has learned Slam.
Spite - Breed with a male Dunsparce that has learned Spite.
Crunch (Crystal Only) - Breed with a male Girafarig or from the Houndour family that has learned Crunch.

Sandshrew
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