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Old December 23rd, 2011 (7:07 PM).
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I can't see hail being used much anymore either. Abomasnow has too many counters and the fact that almost only ice types get a benefit from it, and ice is a horrible defensive typing. It's like why use hail when you can use sandstorm.

Originally Posted by dragonomega View Post
I really do think that Hail needs a new secondary effect than just minor damage every turn.
Hail needs to boost Ice's defence or special defence by 50% to compete with sandstorm imo.