Thread: [Gen V] A Screenless HO?
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Old January 11th, 2012, 06:20 PM
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Basically, currently I'm trying to run a Hyper Offensive team without screens. It's worked out relatively well so far.

I posted this in the Walrein Clan and decided to listen to Anti, and post it up here for more views and hopefully more help

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@Lum Berry
Adamant
No Guard
240 HP / 248 Atk / 16 SpD / 4 Spe
~ DynamicPunch
~ Payback
~ Bullet Punch
~ Ice Punch

More or less just a powerful, tank-ish, Pokemon. I lead with him most of the time, though with team preview I often switch around my team, too. I'd say it's a 60-40 split, with Champ being the lead usually. DynamicPunch is great. Even if it's resisted, the confusion helps out a lot. Payback for pesky ghosts like Gengar (Champ can usually take a hit and then OHKO with Payback). Payback is my only dark move on the team however, and I often find myself with no answer to the annoying pixie thing. More or less I just keep attacking till it dies, which can take awhile.. I rely too much on confusion's hax, too..

@Life Orb
Adamant
Inner Focus
4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
~ Swords Dance
~ Close Combat
~ ExtremeSpeed
~ Ice Punch

I love this guy If the situation allows, I have set up a single SD and proceeded to sweep a whole team with Lucario alone. I'm thinking of switching Ice Punch out for Crunch, since Payback on Machamp is my only other dark move on the team. By the same token, Ice Punch is my only Ice attack on the whole team.. I can deal with MS Dragonites with Haxorus, but Gliscor.. Extremespeed is just awesome. At +2, even a neutral Extremespeed will deal a chunk of damage to things like.. I can't think of the name right now, but I'm pretty sure it's another one of those stupid pixie things.

@Life Orb
Adamant
Technician
252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
~ Swords Dance
~ Bullet Punch
~ Superpower
~ Bug Bite

Like, seriously? Do I really need to give you an explanation for this guy? He's Scizor. That's all you need to know.

@Life Orb
Adamant
Moxie
252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
~ Dragon Dance
~ Waterfall
~ Stone Edge
~ Earthquake

Another great Poke. He's kind of like my clutch player. When all else fails, send out Gyarados and pray for the best. Bulky enough to take a hit and DD up. After which, you better hide. Because this guy has decimated entire teams in 7 turns.. After a DD and a KO, hell, after a DD, Gyarados will usually OHKO whatever is sent in against it. From there on, the other team is pretty much dead, since with every passing turn, Gyarados just becomes that much stronger.

@Lum Berry
Adamant
Mold Breaker
36 HP / 252 Atk / 220 Spe
~ Dragon Dance
~ Outrage
~ Earthquake
~ Brick Break

I needed an Electric resist for synergy with Gyarados.. But Haxorus has not disappointed whatsoever. What a monster. After a Dragon Dance, he is scary. Very scary. Great coverage. Hits hard.

@Lum Berry
Adamant
Multiscale
252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
~ Dragon Dance
~ Outrage
~ Fire Punch
~ Earthquake

My favorite Pokemon since RBY. With 5th Gen, looks like he's finally getting the recognition he deserves :D On a serious note, he is just as good, if not better than Haxorus late game. While Haxorus isn't hurt as much by Stealth Rocks, if the opponent uses Spikes instead, or only has Spikes/Toxic Spikes up, Dragonite isn't affected at all. Very useful indeed. Outrage hits everything but Steel hard. Fire Punch for Steels and Ices. Earthquake mostly for Heatran and a second powerful attack that doesn't lock me in. I'm considering testing out Extremespeed, though, because setting up, sweeping, and then getting taken out by a priority move is annoying.. But it's still fun seeing a Heatran sent in to wall me, expecting me to carry Extremespeed, only to die on the spot.


I'm not sure if I've told you guys this but I usually prefer to not use legendaries. But I'm just about ready to suck up my pride and chuck a Terrakion on the team if someone suggests so haha
So far I've gotten the following suggestion from ShinySalamence888:
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6 physical attackers isn't good at all if you bump in to a physical wall like Ferrothorn off the top of my head. I'd reccomend you try the Special set for Lucario;

Lucario @ Life Orb
Modest nature
Inner Focus
4HP | 252Sp.Atk | 252 Spe
~ Nasty Plot
~ Aura Sphere
~ Dark Pulse
~ Vacuum Wave

Still great type coverage, stat boosting move and priority. Just on the Special side of things.

I'm a little skeptical about this because of the way HO teams function in general. If I can get past that physical wall, it'll pretty much render the opponent's special wall, if they carry one, useless.

I've also gotten these suggestions from Anti:
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For the team, I would put in a dual screener over one of your physical attackers since the defenses are a bit thin. ...Or at the very least a choice scarfer. Priority and Gyarados Intimidate is about it for defense atm

I don't like the concept of a Choiced Pokemon on an HO team since it revolves around minimal switching. I had a decent dual-screener in Azelf, but I've just found that straight attacking, attacking, and then attacking again fits my style the best. I've found more success on the PO server with this team than I did with the same team, but with Machamp swapped for Azelf. I'm not sure what he meant by priority and Gyarados, though haha

Like, Anti said, defensively, I'm lacking. But I also attribute that to the fact that I always try to set up on an almost dead Pokemon, instead of just killing it with priority and then going from there.. I'd say Skarmory is the bane of this team so far, from what I've experienced. Dragonite and Gyarados are my only true counters to it, and neither can kill it with one hit, even after a single boost. If I manage to get two boosts up on either before Skarmory comes in, I'm usually fine. But yeah.. otherwise I just have to keep sacrificing Pokemon and let it use that annoying Whirlwind to mess with my stat boosts..