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Old July 16th, 2012 (6:35 PM).
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Past Winners allowing to participate
Without any kind of prize it's difficult to see why people would want to enter again, but there's no way to know without trying so it's a good idea to let them take part. Contests like the C&M Reviews contest have supporter tiers as prizes, so perhaps you could look into doing likewise with the PPC? It'd certainly spur on the non-supporter category (assuming they'll still be divided) and I'm sure the supporters category wouldn't mind an extra tier or two from taking part. The only down-side I see is that members that haven't won may feel pressured by taking part with previous winners; but we won't see if that's a problem till it happens. Also on this note, it could be interesting after a few more PPCs have run to see a PPC where only previous winners can take part - sort of a competition of 'PC's best designers'. It goes without saying that if previous winners do enter these contests again, they shouldn't be able to re-enter an old profile.
I wouldn't mind giving out supportership. The only problem I see with this is the fact that unlike the other events that have given out supportship (other than the Egg Swap, which is still more rare than how often the PPC will be) the PPC happens several times a year. Even if we break it down to one PPC each season it's still more PPCs in a year. Perhaps the supportership is only giving out to members who have won more than one contest. That way the first time they win the emblem is the prize. Though with that in mind I would want to keep the supportership a one maybe two time thing. That said, I don't want it to end up having the same concern with making another emblem and people stop playing once they receive those supporterships.

I do like the idea of possibly running a side PPC with just previous winners.

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Possible Themes for the contests
I love this idea! To be honest I'm kinda surprised it wasn't put into place before haha. It's possible that people might not want to keep a themed profile for the duration of the contest, but I think having themed contests would definitely make things a lot more interesting. It'd give people an easier time deciding what profiles to make and this'd hopefully encourage people whom in the past haven't entered due to a lack of ideas to enter now since the theme has already half been decided for them. Plus it'll be a lot easier for people to vote/compare profiles due to them not differing in such extreme ways.
Perhaps Netto and I can run a poll here in Other Trivia before the actual PPC with some theme ideas we came up with (because if we left everything to the member it would take forever) and roll from there?

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Timespan between each contest
I think seasonal works best. As in Summer/Spring/Winter/Autumn. 4 a year per section wouldn't be too much if each contest runs for a say a month, especially if previous winners can now enter, but even so this doesn't have to be decided right away. Perhaps base the decision of how frequent the contests will be on the activity of the next contest. If people have fair warning of when the next contests will be (eg the 1st day of every 3rd month) then they'd have time to prepare and stack up some ideas for when the time comes. Although if unfortunately the next contests aren't so active, then there's no harm in holding them only bi-annually or annually.
With the poll idea I tossed up there that could possibly serve as a fair warning as to when the next one is coming? Other than that I wouldn't mind putting up some kind of warning of when the next one is coming somewhere. It could help me out as well as it'll put me (or any who is running the contest) on a deadline so the PPC doesn't end up getting shoved off somewhere like it seems to have been.

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Volunteers
I'll volunteer for helping run the PT PPCs when the time comes. Whether it's hosting the contest or collecting/tallying votes, I'll be more than happy to help. I'd love to see this contest being a really active event.
Good! Perhaps I can make a list of people who agreed to become volunteers sometime and whenever I need someone to help I can bring up that list and ask around. It can be a one-time thing or if someone really wants to they can stay on the list so they can be called on whenever as often as we need them.

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Anything Else?
I think having prizes for 2nd/3rd place would be good. I think it'd definitely encourage some people that are less confident about their designs to enter since they won't have the mentality of "There's no point entering with all these amazing profiles to go up against" if there are more prizes on offer. I know I've personally been in this frame of mind with previous contests back when I first noticed them taking place, so I really think this'd help. What those prizes are though is a different matter; I expect they'd probably end up as emblems since there isn't a whole lot else to offer (which would also make the supporter tier thing mentioned above even more sought after for 1st place contenders), but if there are alternative ideas then it'd be interesting to see something new or different as a prize than a standard set of emblems.
idk what I want to do here either because I want to avoid making more emblems as much as possible. I'm bad with emblems as it is (not making them but giving them out really). But it's a thought I'll consider.

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Also more advertising for the contest wouldn't hurt. Eg for one of the previous PPCs, the Pokemon Clubs IRC channel got wind of it and 5 or 6 of us ended up entering as a result. If this was applied to other channels too and other places like blogs etc (although I know you've already tried that), then it certainly wouldn't hurt the activity.
Netto and I can try to get on IRC more often to advertise it since that seems to be the best place. Also we can also see about a forum-wide announcement as well since an announcement just in Other Trivia is sort of pointless due to the fact that many participants don't come here to Other Trivia to begin with. We had people advertise it in their signatures in the past so I highly support that to continue.

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Past winners n stuff

I wouldn't mind if I we had past winners participate, but there should be a limit on how often. If someone was taking the lead every single time, it might be discouraging after a while. People will think "Oh, I won't bother to join, because --- is gonna win anyways, so it's just gonna be a waste of my time to bother." So a limit of 2 or 3 contests between winning won't be that bad, and people will see winners (or at least a couple of them switching around) and be a little less discouraged about it.
I would mind putting a limit if it seems that only past winners was winning PPCs. I certainly wouldn't want to discourage other people from participating because past winners are.

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Themes

Yes, duh. Every contest show has it...why not?

One could be held in PT and the other in OT. The PT contests could be Pokémon-themed according to the season, and the OT could be be anything BinaryPeaches and Netto wills. Just a suggestion.
Maybe not so much the season (maybe for a year haha) but maybe one theme could be Ice Pokemon and the next theme could be Fire Pokemon? But I really so like the idea of themes, and as mentioned before I wouldn't mind tossing up a poll with theme ideas to see what theme the members would be most interested in either.

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Time between

A contest a season would be okay. On the solstices and equinoxes would be a great deadline! It would bring out the Midsummer partying mood or something like that.
Ooo. That's an idea. Deadlines would certainly help anyone who is hosting it know when exactly when should have it ready to be put up.

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Volunteers

Yes, if I see how this contest runs <3
You can search up the other PPCs (or I can eventually link them when I'm less lazy) so you can see how they run. It's pretty easy on both ends (but more so on the voting end if you're not much of a CSS person considering how the other PPCs have looked in the past haha).

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Yes, the prizes. An emblem would be nice though it would get boring. A prize for a recurring winner could be something like a blog/supportership. And given that only two people can win twice in a year or two (and more realistically about one or none if we include the "limit to winning" rule) it's not like a flood of blogs/supporterships will result.

And if it's not that, an emblem would be fine, and I would be more than happy to join if I could get something out of it. Just a tiny prize would be a bigger incentive to win than nothing. I know people like me still have only one or none emblems and earning them is kinda rewarding :) lols
We already have an emblem in place for the PPC. :) But it's a one time thing which is why currently past winners can't participate.

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Originally Posted by Stand Alone View Post
I completely agree that having themes would be a good incentive for people to participate more. And not just the generally generic themes of "summer" or "winter" or whatever either. Creative themes would be a good thing I think, with perhaps unique Emblems for each one? That seems like it would also encourage more people to participate-- people like new emblems/prizes. Giving them unique ones every time doesn't seem that difficult a feat, plus it's new and fresh sorta.
Sadly, Netto and I want to avoid making more emblems. Also the Higher Staff sort of discourage emblems that are of one time use since there are so many of them. Least last time I checked.

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Also, expanding on the topic of prizes, maybe we could talk about a potential Supportership or something for multiple winners or w/e. Or, perhaps even something along the lines of having at the end of the year like a profiles finals, where all four winners for the year are voted on again to decide who wins and get a special emblem for that as well. Or give a/the supportship to the victor.

Also, as far as helping goes, like I've said before: I am glad to help with anything so long as it doesn't require me to use any kind of fancy coding :V
See above!

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Originally Posted by Bloodex View Post
Past Winners allowing to participate
Yes! Do it, it'll definitely spark a flame and rekindle the competition. In tandem with the theme restraint, it'll make for some competition that I feel is fair. As for a possbile prize, why not both the right to determine the theme of the next competition? Obviously have the person run it by the mods, but I feel that's a neat prize. As for personal merit, seeing as the emblem's already there, I have two options. The first is a little big, and I dunno if it'd be possible. But possible have your username decorated fancy, or colored fancy, something of the sort? Perhaps have an emblem in tandem of that. But I feel it goes with the who PPC feel. My second idea really only works for non PC Supporters, I just realized. But have them obtain the benefits the PCSs have? (I believe it was a background, or something... I forget). As for current PC Supporters, perhaps... something. I'll have to get back on this.
Oh, that is an interesting idea (I'm sort of rereading everything and replying so I didn't remember this suggestion before typing up the poll suggestion haha). The winner picking the theme idea that is. The colored username on the other hand is something that the staff will be unwilling to do. They're pretty stubborn on allowing normal members have a special usertitle let alone a special colored username. As for the last idea one thing I think it might be possible? I'm not too sure if the admins can give them that option without making a new usergroup.

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One mandatory prize (look at me, being all bossy) would be a a Hall of Fame of sorts. We all need our egos fed. The winners names should go down in history, and this is the best way to do it!
I was actually thinking about this before reading thing so I whole heartly agree with you.



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Possible Themes for the contests

Like I said earlier, I'm totally down for themes. You can really do a lot, and capture emotions, you know? The possibilities are endless. Pokemon related ones can be "types". Hell, the host (and helpers?) can be creative and randomly assign a contestant a particular type he'll have to try to recreate with his profile. Of course, close management will be needed, but it CAN be pulled off! As for non-Pokemon themes, that's not that hard either. You can try an idea similar to one I just said, assigning themes. A little harder, but possible. Have a general topic, and distribute. Seasons is an easy one, have that as the theme, and randomly assign one of the four seasons. Try to distribute them evenly, and obviously there HAS to be repeated themes. Wouldn't be a contest that way.
Hmm... that's an interesting idea. But I also like the idea of just putting up a general theme or something and allowing their minds to be creative. I wouldn't want to give someone who has a fall theme in mind winter. But, again, it's an interesting idea.

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Timespan between each contest

Timespan BETWEEN contesests: 3 months. It's worked before, I feel like it could work again. But extending it to 4 or even 5 wont be too bad. It'd raise the prestige of the contest.

As for timespan OF the contest: 1 month. I feel like that's fair. 2 weeks for entry, and two for votes. Very lenient, no?
So two for Pokemon Trivia and two for Other Trivia? Since every three months is basically seasonal I've realized. As for the timespan I wouldn't mind boosting it from three weeks to a whole month.

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Um, I would just like to say, all great ideas. Though the colored username one would mean they would have to make a new usergroup for each winner, which would seem kinda wasteful of space :P
That and the admin wouldn't go through the effort to do that haaa.

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and as for gaining the supportership things, it's pretty much what gaining a supportership tier is all about. It's not too outrageous to give like, what, three people a year one or two supportership tiers, and contests have done that in the past.

so yeap
It would actually be eight people a year (less though if it's only for people who have won before) supportships. Still more than other contest give them since they're more rare but again, I wouldn't mind giving out supportership to members after they have already won the emblem. Emblem + Supportership is a little much in my opinion.
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