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Old August 10th, 2012, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by FlameChocobo View Post
No, the international Red and Blue is Red and Green WITH the engine of the Original Blue. Even Blue version has ugly sprites (there are some sprites uglier than they were in the originals.) Don't believe me? Let me explain...

Spoiler:
In the Original Blue Version
  • In Route 22, Nidoran male and female both have a 5% encounter rate.
  • In order to get Mr. Mime in Route 2, you need to have a Jigglypuff to trade it.
  • In Cerulean City, the trainer that you have to trade your Polywhirl to get Jynx in Red and Green, is the trainer that trades your a Haunter for your Machoke.
  • In order to get Farfetch'd in Vermillion City, you need to have a Pidgey to trade it.
  • You can't find Electabuzz in Power Plant. Trade it from Red (recommended if you caught Jynx)
  • In Rock Tunnel, you actually encounter Ditto with a 10% Encounter rate.
  • In Celadon Game Corner, I'll go ahead and label the following Pokemon Prizes (Abra for 180 coins, Pikachu for 620 coins, Horsea for 1000 coins, Clefable for 2880 coins, Dragonair for 5400 coins, and Porygon for 8300 coins (which is the second cheapest compared to getting one for 6500 coins in the Green version))
  • In the Safari Zone, Kangaskhan and Tauros are unavailable. However you can get Lickitung there.
  • In Route 18, the trainer that trades you a Lickitung for your Slowbro in Red and Green, you have to trade your Persian for Tauros.
  • In Route 11, the trainer that trades you a Nidorina for your Nidorino in Red and Green, trades you a Kangaskhan for your Rhydon.
  • On Seafoam Island, you actually find Jynx. Her encounter rate is 1% on B2F and 4% on B4F
  • You can't get Magmar in Pokemon Mansion. Trade it from Green (Recommended if you caught Jynx)
  • You actually can encounter Growlithe/Arcanine, Oddish/Gloom/Vileplume, Scyther, Sandshrew/Sandslash, Meowth/Persian, and Pinsir.
There! Added any relevant differences between Red and Green (Red and Blue outside of Japan) and Blue (which was released only in Japan.) It's just in case you hadn't researched. Let me know if I missed something.


So there you have it. Other than the title and theme, the international version of Pokemon Blue is actually Pokemon Green with the engine of the original Blue. Leaving out One version on a generation was the biggest flaw the localization team made. That is why they really need to relocalize Pokemon First Generation (though, it won't happen because it's the decision.)
I've done my research on the topic (but a good rechecking of the facts didn't hurt, it never does), and that's basically the same thing. If they renamed the version and gave it a newer, upgraded revision, it's pretty much the same as having a second version (or rather, its own version), after all, the Red that came over is not the same Red that was released in Japan, and similarly the "Green" that came over is not the same Green that was released in Japan. Heck, Blue is more like Blue than it is like Green, being that the Graphics, music and music quality, name, engine, and script are those of Blue while the aspects from Green are there to balance that it's the version opposite Red and not a third version as it was in Japan (IE Pokemon Changes and the like).

The fact of the matter is, Blue was originally made to be a product for those who subscribed to CoroCoro, and it was meant to be an improved of Red and Green (thus, it's technically (or not technically) the first "third version); even if the sprites look uglier, they were simply meant to be repurposed (in much the same way that we see in each proceeding third version). They didn't need to bring the original Red and Green over because it didn't have the enhancements that Blue had, and in essence, it "wasn't as good". We'd essentially be getting the crap end of the deal if they decided to bring the originals over rather than what was supposed to be the "bigger, better" version. Granted, it would net them more money if they released Red and Green and then Blue later, but that would also require more work. To make up for it (or just because they didn't feel like changing the name for a local release, especially since "Water Blue" was considered...actually, scratch what I said before, they it wasn't to make up for it), they released a Green version years later, but it had neither the unique aspects nor the flaws that the original did, and it was released by the name of Leaf Green, a remake of the original games.

Plus, there was no demand for Green, and they didn't really make it internationally known that they made a Green version, people just had to come across the information. Even when it was known by the masses, there was no huge desire for it to come over, so Nintendo didn't consider it, they didn't need to. Not only was/is there no money in the venture, but they might actually lose money in the processes of bringing it over (and the changes between them certainly aren't the most attractive).
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