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Old September 11th, 2012 (3:01 AM).
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Going to punt this to the In-game Team Questions thread as this suits that spot first; you're asking questions about teams while 4th gen discussion is about discussing the games themselves rather than teams you should have.

Also other 'bad' Pokemon... well, try looking at not-fully-evolved stuff like, say, Kakuna. =p
(Also I know of a GSC challenge done which only had the one Sunkern in it. Now that was impressive.)