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Quote originally posted by Sira420:
I'm not to big on looking for my moves and stratagies on smogon, I prefer to learn through trial and error c[:
My latios had
Calm mind
Reflect
Dragon pulse
And psychic

I haven't played pokemon in a while so I didn't know which moves latios could learn, wups my bad. I wanted to make latios more offensive to protect my adamant giratina. oh and with Giratina, you're right I should go with its origin form... I jst wanted extra speed to poison the apponent first. And shadow force was only to buy time for toxic. If you switch to a normal pokemon in the middrl of shadow force I'll jst use dragon tail again ^-^

I was thinking about it and on terrakill I'm going to replace rockslide with firefang, so thanks ^-^

And now I gotta work on getting me a Dialga :D
But with different moves, (I'm not a big fan of stealth rocks)
The other 2 slots are for rayquaza and lucario

Rayquaza
252 atk 252 speed

Dragondance
Dragonclaw
I'm thinking of earthquake and maybe even flamethower umm idk

Lucario
Same atk and speed evs
Drain punch
Iron tail
Swordance
aura sphere/ extreme speed - which one is better?
I know to many sweepers

I probably need one other annoyer, apart from giratina a possibly a wall and a rapid spinner... So which pokemons do you think need to get off my team so I can add a milotic, a meganium or something around there
Like I said before, Altered forme Giratina is better at using defensive sets than its Origin Forme. Both formes play differently; Altered Forme Giratina uses its huge 150 HP in conjunction with its 120 Defense and Special Defense to wall opponents, and possibly shuffle them around with Dragon Tail. Origin Forme Giratina (which is only accessible via Griseous Orb), is better off as an all-out attacker, due to the swapped offensive and defensive stats. Both formes have the same base Speed of 90.

Your Latios looks like it had a defensive set. Latias (Latios' twin) can pull off defensive sets better because of its 130 Special Defense, further boosted by Soul Dew. As a general rule of thumb, use only offensive sets with Latios and defensive/support/tank sets with Latias.

Dialga's best traits are its good defensive typing and high defenses. Its Speed isn't high enough to let it go hyper-offensive. And what are you talking about? Stealth Rock is one of the best support moves ever made. It damages all Pokemon, which Spikes and Toxic Spikes don't do, when they enter battle (even though the damage varies depending on what type the Pokemon is). Stealth Rock isn't very hard to get up either; it only takes 1 layer for Stealth Rock to do its job. Dialga has the defenses and typing to get Stealth Rock up easily. Said move also works well with Giratina's Dragon Tail, racking up extra damage on the Pokemon that switches into battle; Giratina's Ghost typing also ensures that opponents can't Rapid Spin away the rocks, since SR is an entry hazard.

Rayquaza is rather versatile when it comes to offensive movesets; it can go physical, special or both:
-Dragon Dance
-Outrage
-Earthquake
-Overheat
Nature: Naive
EVs: 252 Atk/4 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Lum Berry

or
-Draco Meteor
-Fire Blast/V-create
-ExtremeSpeed
-Outrage/Dragon Tail
Nature: Hasty/Naive
EVs: 4 Atk/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb

or
-Dragon Dance
-Outrage
-Draco Meteor
-Fire Blast/Earthquake
Nature: Mild/Rash
EVs: 40 Atk/252 SAtk/216 Spe
Item: Life Orb

or
-Swords Dance
-Dragon Claw
-ExtremeSpeed
-V-create
Nature: Jolly/Adamant
EVs: 252 Atk/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb

or
-Outrage
-V-create
-Draco Meteor
-Earthquake/ExtremeSpeed
Nature: Hasty/Naive
EVs: 252 Atk/4 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Choice Scarf

or
-Outrage
-V-create
-ExtremeSpeed
-Earthquake
Nature: Adamant/Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Choice Band

Lucario doesn't really do well in Ubers because of its somewhat average offenses and poor defenses compared to the resident Ubers there. Excadrill is your best bet in its place as a Rapid Spinner:
-Earthquake
-Rapid Spin
-Swords Dance
-Rock Slide/Iron Head/Substitute
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 176 HP/60 Atk/252 SDef/20 Spe
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Mold Breaker

Quote originally posted by PokeTrade:
Lately, I have been doing online launcher battles. It hasn't gone to well...

This is my team at the moment:

Emboar
Serperior
Samurott
Cinccino ( Or what ever it's called I forget because it's nick-named )
Ditto
Zoroark

Half of this team was made by my friend. I decided to use the three main starters, but change Emboar to a Blaziken once i get one. Emboar is a terrible fire starter Pokemon. Ditto isn't the best one I would have picked and im starting to think my friend was intending me to have total doom. Zoroark is okay in some cases, sometimes using his illusion and getting un-noticed looking like my Emboar the whole match. I don't think it's a good team, and don't know what members to change, so i ask for your help. I don't think i wanna ask my friend for help again...
Emboar isn't that bad. While it has less Speed than Blaziken or Infernape, it hits rather hard with a Choice Band attached.

You're right on Cinccino's name.

Ditto isn't that bad of a Pokemon because of its Imposter ability copying the opponent as soon as it enters battle. I'll throw out some move sets for all your Pokemon:

Serperior:
-Coil
-Leaf Blade
-Aqua Tail
-Return/Substitute
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Leftovers

or
-Substitute
-Calm Mind
-Giga Drain
-Hidden Power (Fire/Rock)/Dragon Pulse
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Leftovers

or
-Glare
-Giga Drain
-Dragon Tail
-Taunt
Nature: Bold
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef
Item: Leftovers

or
-Reflect
-Light Screen
-Giga Drain
-Taunt
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 HP/4 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Light Clay

Emboar:
-Flare Blitz
-Superpower
-Wild Charge
-Head Smash/Stone Edge
Nature: Adamant (Choice Band)/Jolly (Choice Scarf)
EVs: 128 HP/252 Atk/128 Spe (Choice Band) or 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe (Choice Scarf)
Item: Choice Specs/Choice Scarf

or
-Fire Blast
-Superpower
-Hidden Power (Ice)
-Grass Knot/Substitute
Nature: Rash/Mild
EVs: 128 HP/252 SAtk/128 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Leftovers

Samurott:
-Hydro Pump/Surf
-Ice Beam
-Grass Knot/Hidden Power (Grass)
-Megahorn/Superpower/Taunt/Aqua Jet
Nature: Naive/Timid
EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb

or
-Swords Dance
-Waterfall
-Aqua Jet
-Megahorn
Nature: Adamant/Jolly
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Lum Berry/Leftovers

Cinccino:
-Tail Slap
-Bullet Seed
-Rock Blast
-U-turn
Nature: Jolly/Adamant
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Choice Band
Ability: Skill Link

Ditto:
-Transform
Nature: Relaxed/Sassy
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef (Relaxed) or 252 HP/4 Def/252 SDef (Sassy)
Item: Choice Scarf
Ability: Imposter

Zoroark:
-Dark Pulse/Night Daze
-Flamethrower
-Focus Blast
-Trick/U-turn
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Choice Specs/Choice Scarf

or
-Nasty Plot
-Dark Pulse/Night Daze
-Focus Blast
-Flamethrower/Substitute
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Leftovers

or
-Dark Pulse/Night Daze
-Flamethrower
-Focus Blast
-Sucker Punch
Nature: Hasty/Naive
EVs: 4 Atk/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb
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