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Old December 5th, 2012 (1:35 PM).
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Originally Posted by Forever View Post
Not sure why Flareon is STABless, I mean Flame Charge isn't exactly bad and it could make up the speed lost in Curse while Charizard dies, and I thought we were talking about counters on their own, not with support from the previous Pokemon mentioned
I have last resort because it is powerful and flareon's fire stabs all suck. Flame charge isn't really that great because it is weak and the raised speed doesn't really help that much because it is already slow as hell. 

Even without seeds, flareon still makes a decent charizard "counter" because of its high spd. I can just wish, and n the next turn, curse up and receive the wish.

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Max HP/max defense Relaxed nature
Water absorb
Circle throw
Sleep talk
Comes in on any move(cb eq isn't a 2hko) and either scald for a lot of damage and possible burn or circle throw predicting the switch.
Hax is supposed to happen. Scald has a 100% burn rate(willowisp w/ perfect accuracy); paralysis has a 75% chance of kicking in; Rock slide misses more than stone edge; Hustle= 50% more power at the cost of 100% accuracy.
I get haxed a lot and the hax gods who are the gods of hax hate me I'm sad :[